To hell with logic: sign Chris Webber

Chris Webber is a jinx. No team will ever win a championship with Chris Webber on its roster*. He’s bad luck.

(*High school doesn’t count.)

maybe i can understand the nostalgia for an era gone way, way by and i can definitely understand signing a jump shooting big man (though i don’t think c-webb has jumped, leapt or sprung in about two seasons) who has a flair for finding the cutter with a nice bounce pass on the cheap, but all i can say with webber is: buyer, beware.

i’ve watched A LOT of the iverson/webber era sixers, and i can honestly say this is a move the sixers should have made months ago. webber is done. watching him play is like watching end-of-career pat ewing run the floor. he looks as if his knees are bags of fluid with broken glass swimming in them. he’s NEVER been a good defender, but with the shape he’s in now, it’s like comparing ben wallace with a ben wallace inflatable defender. (the non-inflated big ben being the good defender in that comparison.) he bitched and moaned about his playing time in philly when he was STARTING, helped run a good coach out of town (jim o’brien), and was allegedly complaining to anyone who would listen about playing with iverson. if the game’s on the line, he is the LAST guy you want with the ball in his hands (or near the opposing player with the ball in his hands.) yes, “TIMEOUT” was a long time ago, but can you remember any c-webb moments when he did anything of any merit in the waning seconds of a tight ball game? i think i remember him hitting one clutch jumper for the sixers to tie up a game. a game that they promptly lost on the next play. and then let’s talk about character: ignoring the arrest for assault, dui, possession (all at once, mind you), let’s talk about the conviction for perjury. how many friggin’ nba players have PERJURY on their rap sheet? PERJURY?!? the guy has been and always will be an arsehole. but now he is arsehole at 1/10th the ability.

so, i would say my stance on the pistons signing chris webber is “lukewarm-ish.”

JackDutch speaks for me.

I care not one bit for “fans” who demand trades as a form of entertainment, so all the talk of a Webber pick-up is just static to me. This guy wasn’t Pistons material on two good legs, and he doesn’t help any of our weaknesses. Plus we’d probably retard bench development to boot.

Although I do believe that the Pistons have a great shot at making it into the finals, I can’t imagine them beating the Mavs/Suns/Spurs in a 7 game series. And while picking up Webber might inject a little excitement into the fan base, it’s not something that is going to put this team over the top. At this point I think we’d be better off doing nothing, evaluating the talent that we have, and possibly setting ourselves up for next season. Unless (of course) we can get a SG/PG that can really run the point and let Chauncey get some rest without the offense going up in smoke.

I have a U of M t-shirt autographed at a basketball camp by 4 of the Fab 5 while I wore it. It’s still a prize possession, and I went to MSU! So I got the nostalgia thing, too.

The main problem I see is Webber getting playing time in from of Maxey, who seems to me is earning his time. I’m not particularly big on bringing Webber in though. I wouldn’t get that offended if it were to happen, but I wouldn’t really be thinking “this is the piece we need” either. (Nor do you, obviously). So I’d say, if the price is right, I guess it doesn’t hurt much to give it a try.

Just ask Sheed first? ;)

I am hesitant to get caught up in the whole nostalgia thing considering I have witnessed several C-Webb appearances at the Palace where he was booed rather loudly. Once was with the Kings in the wake of his UM grand jury indictment. Im just not sure how welcome he would be in Detroit.

At this point, C-Webb is McDyess with less mobility.

LanierFan: I respect your opinion, but a) this isn’t a trade, it’s a pickup that won’t cost a player, and b) you could make the same arguments about Rasheed before we acquired him.

He’s a big man who can pass, and while he has his physical limitations he’d still infuse energy into the Palace, both on the court and in the stands. That’s been lacking big time this year.

Picking him up can only make the team deeper — even if that means we make a trade down the road. I don’t see why it’s not at least worth a shot.

Yeah, why not. We need to shake things up a bit. The boys are getting stale.

let’s do it. let’s bring him in. he won’t get in the way of maxey. you’ve got sheed/mcdyess at PF (put maxey in when there’s foul trouble) and c-Webb/Nazr at center. shoot, mcdyess could even run center at some time. this is something the pistons have been waiting for. we weren’t really expecting to get Nazr over the summer, he was just the best available. We stil need a replacement for dolla-bill AKA Ben Wallace. Webber’s available now, i’m sure we would have got him last summer instead of Nazr if he was available. let’s do it, we could get 2 good years out of him. think of what maxiell could learn under this #1 draft pick. in the TNT interview, Webber said he would bring an incredible basketball IQ to his next team. Enter Jason Maxiell in the future. an earlier poster said we should be looking toward the future right? well, this would be, gettting C-Webb would allow us to make an impact now, and have steps in place for the future.

Matt, justifying a player acquisition because his fans will “infuse energy” into the team is pretty shaky. But at least it shows you’re aware that CWebb won’t be providing that energy personally. The guy has no lift anymore, so he can’t score inside or defend effectively. Plus we run a system where his interior passing ability isn’t exactly at a premium. And he’s never been the kind of guy who’ll keep his mouth shut from the bench. So why displace McDyess or Maxiell just when we’re starting to get a rotation worked out?

You guys seem to realize that he averaged 20 points and 9 boards a game last year. No, he doesn’t have “lift” anymore, but then again who needs lift when you’re filling it up to the tune of 20 and 9 a night?

Having CWebb coming off the bench, or starting, is a solid option for the Pistons when you realize that you can get something for Nazr and/or Dale Davis. We all know Dale Davis is a liability on the offensive end, and even though they’re used to that from having Big Ben around, it’s still not feasible in this day in age when teams are racking up 100 points a night.

I think CWebb would be a solid pick up for the Pistons. I think if you find a suitor for Nazr’s contract, you could then turn and deal a #1 and others for the backup point that they need. OR you deal Dale Davis, but I’d like to have him lining up against Shaq instead of Nazr.

LF: I simplified my reasons a bit — as much as his skills have diminished, he can obviously do more than just infuse energy. The guy can still rebound, for one.

And while Detroit’s offense hasn’t premium on low-post passing, that’s in part because you’re not going to run an offense through Nazr. But the Pistons O ran best when Sheed got the ball on the block and either kicked it back out or shot the long-armed turnaround jumper.

Now he rarely does that, more often than not getting the ball from the top of the three-point line. Webber doesn’t have that range and won’t be tempted to drift out.

Nazr is the one with the most to lose, and then probably McDyess. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing.