The Pistons are in Golden State
As previously mentioned, Rodney Stuckey re-joined the team yesterday but for some reason won't be playing. The Warriors, meanwhile, are expected to get Corey Maggette back from a hamstring injury. Most of Golden State's offense is funneled through Maggette (18.5 ppg) and Stephen Jackson (23.3 ppg), so this will be a nice test for Tayshaun to see if he can be aggressive on both ends of the court in the same game.
The Warriors are known for being an extremely athletic up-tempo team, but Andris Biedrins is a double-double machine (16.8 ppg, 14.3 rpg) with a career 60.8% field-goal percentage in the middle. Kwame Brown, making his first start of the season for the Pistons, has his work cut out for him.
I'm curious to see how Rasheed Wallace responds to the switch. So far this year, Rasheed has averaged just 11.4 points (the fewest since his rookie year) and 8.6 boards (the most in his career). If he's sliding to the four, will we see fewer boards and more points?
Despite Curry's promise to get Rasheed on the block more often, 38.7% of his field-goal attempts have been from beyond the arc, his highest rate since camping out behind the line for over 40% of his attempts in 2005-06. If he establishes himself in the post tonight, he could obliterate Brandon Wright. Sadly, I'm guessing he'll interpret the switch as a green light to roam as far as he wants. I hope he proves me wrong.
For those of you still reeling from the big trade, you have to love how TNT is giving us Denver/Cleveland in the early game and Detroit/Golden State for the nightcap. Chauncey Billups vs. Ben Wallace is already underway, and the Pistons should tip-off against the Warriors at 10:30 -- feel free to leave your thoughts on either game in the comments.
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MC moved Kwame into the starting lineup and Amir back to the Zoo Crew. I like this move a lot. I was never comfortable with Amir playing with the more experienced guys.
This will help the 2nd unit a lot which has been pretty poor especially on defense.
Pistons coach Michael Curry said on the “Stoney and Wojo Show” on WDFN-AM (1130) today that Kwame Brown will start in place of Amir Johnson tonight at Golden State — and perhaps for the foreseeable future.
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Curry basically said that Johnson and fellow starter Rasheed Wallace have too many similar qualities, as do Brown and reserve forward Jason Maxiell. The move seems to have been precipitated by the loss of reserve forward Antonio McDyess in this month’s trade with Denver.
http://www.freep.com/article/20081113/SPORTS03/81113111/1051/SPORTS03
by Mike on Nov 13, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply actions
Chauncey at the half: 15 minutes, 18 points on 7-8 shooting, including 4-4 from downtown.
Ben Wallace is also shooting 100% from the free throw line.
by TDP on Nov 13, 2008 9:27 PM EST reply actions
I don’t mind sheed outside at all with this new team. AI, Stuckey, Bynum: those kinds of guys need room in the paint to drive. Plus the fact that sheed’s three point shooting is one of our most dangerous weapons.
by Restructer_It on Nov 13, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions
I don’t think we’re doomed if McDyess doesn’t come back, but all this just drives home how sweet we had it when he was with the team. The Sheed/Amir start with the Dyess/Maxiell bench was an excellent big man rotation. If he came back it would mean that Curry just needs to figure out what to do with all of our guards.
by Michael on Nov 13, 2008 9:40 PM EST reply actions
When was the last time ben and chauncey went h2h and one of them wasn’t a piston?
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 9:48 PM EST reply actions
MP,
Don’t you think you’re being a little hard on the boy?
(I kid….sort of)
by Colin on Nov 13, 2008 9:52 PM EST reply actions
It’s good to see Reggie Miller is calling the 1st game tonight and not ours.
by Jim on Nov 13, 2008 9:53 PM EST reply actions
So, how long until the Pistons game is on? I cant wrap my poor head around the six hundred and eleventy million time zones the US has.
by Laughton on Nov 13, 2008 9:59 PM EST reply actions
One other thing that this move will do is reduce the number of rebounds that Tay and Sheed get
This year in the 7 games vs last year the rebounds are
Tay 7.7 vs 4.9 last year
Sheed 8.6 vs 6.6 last year
So Tay and Sheed are were +4.8 in rpg playing along side Amir.
There were several reasons for this.
1. Amir’s defense reduced the shooting percentage of opponents leading to a higher percentage of missed shots
2. Tip outs by Amir. Against the Kings I counted 4 tip outs by Amir that went to either Sheed to Tay.
However, the second unit will be a lot better with Amir on it, especially the defense.
Putting Amir back on the second unit will allow him to use and develop his offense better. With AI replacing Billups on the first unit there are just not enough shots to go around, as evidenced by Amir having zero shots, excluding a put back, in two of three games with AI. Brown does not need to shoot and in fact his offense is terrible. What Brown will do on the first unit is what he has always done and that is clog the middle on defense especially against the bigger guys.
Overall I think that this move will make the second unit a lot better and help us avoid the second quarter melt downs that we have been having.
by Mike on Nov 13, 2008 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Kwame better not let this opportunity… wait for it… SLIP OUT OF HIS HANDS! OH! OH!
by Rob G on Nov 13, 2008 10:19 PM EST reply actions
If the Rosenberg column today on Billups doesn’t make you choke up, you’re just not a Pistons fan: http://freep.com/article/20081113/COL22/81113121
I freaking love Chauncey. I continue to think the trade was wise, but I miss Chauncey more than any athlete I’ve ever cheered for. Only thing comparable for me was when Woodson left Michigan – but at least you always know it’s coming in college sports…
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 10:19 PM EST reply actions
@Rob G: Ha
And he’ll prolly stand and watch it go right back to the bench before he knows whats goin on.
by Restructer_It on Nov 13, 2008 10:21 PM EST reply actions
Mike: I like your reasoning.
Pavlovic bricking from 33 feet away! It’s like he was lacking depth perception, or didn’t know where he was..?
by Keegan on Nov 13, 2008 10:24 PM EST reply actions
“And he’ll prolly stand and watch it go right back to the bench before he knows whats goin on.”
Then Amir could tip it back to him.
by Keegan on Nov 13, 2008 10:26 PM EST reply actions
I suppose it’ll depend on how pissed he was to get traded.
by Keegan on Nov 13, 2008 10:30 PM EST reply actions
But I don’t think he will. It’s pretty well known he didn’t want to move again.
by Keegan on Nov 13, 2008 10:31 PM EST reply actions
A horrible ejection in the first game! K-Mart thrown out over a forearm. WTF?
by Keegan on Nov 13, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions
Keegan, you’re OUTTA HERE! Tim Duncan, you’d better not be laughing at me!
by Joe Crawford on Nov 13, 2008 10:38 PM EST reply actions
I don’t know why, but I feel like the Pistons are going to play a good game tonight.
by Jim on Nov 13, 2008 10:40 PM EST reply actions
Has the game started yet? If so, anybody got a link?
That Chauncey article is a heart-ripper. Killed me reading it. Even though I support the trade. With my mind, that is. My heart, not so much…
by Dash Rick on Nov 13, 2008 10:45 PM EST reply actions
Has anyone actually seen (or heard about) Sheed’s new back tattoo?
by TDP on Nov 13, 2008 10:45 PM EST reply actions
As funny as I thought Rip’s beard was on Media Day, I’m already sick of see that ridiculousness every game.
by TDP on Nov 13, 2008 10:46 PM EST reply actions
Thanks Primosh! And to think I was going to actually go to bed and get some sleep!
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 10:49 PM EST reply actions
I can see the arm sleeve if you have one of those gay pad in it, but not just for the sake of having a sleeve
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 10:49 PM EST reply actions
Richard Hamilton = the only 2 guard in the league that can’t fucking dribble
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 10:50 PM EST reply actions
Mike,
That’s an interesting theory regarding rebounds. Not sure it’s necessarily backed up by reality though. My impression is that our FG % Defense is worse this year. It might be possible that Amir is keeping more balls alive, but I had attributed Prince’s extra boards to him playing minutes at the 4. As for Sheed I had just chalked it up to the Curry factor.
I joked earlier about Mike Payne giving you a hard time, but you might want to consider taking his advise regarding the use of qualifiers like: I think, maybe, perhaps, could be, seems, appears, possibly etc… The list goes on. You tend to posit theories that might be true, but just come off as ridiculous when you state them as fact.
by Colin on Nov 13, 2008 10:50 PM EST reply actions
horrible start. again. just stupid f-ing passes.
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 10:51 PM EST reply actions
i think iverson is going to eat this watson kid’s lunch.
and dinner.
and supper.
and midnight snack.
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 10:53 PM EST reply actions
anyone who thinks I’m stupid for not thinking Rip is valuable needs to rewind the TiVO and watch how if he can’t catch and shoot he ain’t shit, and also dribbling and trying to pass at the same time…
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Iverson’s crossover is still lethal. I wish he could have made those jumpers, though! Pretty exciting to watch nonetheless.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Blah. Kwame drifting out on D. Rip still cold. Three attempts on one possession and not scoring. Kwame shooting like Ben Wallace.
by Greg on Nov 13, 2008 10:55 PM EST reply actions
there is no reason sheed shouldn’t go for 30 tonight.
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 10:56 PM EST reply actions
I think we should consider trading AI for Thad Young and Sam Dalembert
/beating a dead horse
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 10:57 PM EST reply actions
JackDutch: Ha! That’s what I said at the start of the Sacramento game! I was all like, “Psh, NOBODY on the Kings can guard Sheed down low! He’s should get 30!” Then he shot some 3’s and sat on the bench for a while. :(
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 10:57 PM EST reply actions
I don’t know if Kwame is supposed to show less or Rasheed is supposed to help more (guessing the latter) but I’m sick of our shitty pick and roll d this year
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 10:57 PM EST reply actions
Nice to see Sheed on the block. Good offense, bad defense so far.
by Michael on Nov 13, 2008 10:58 PM EST reply actions
Boney: I won’t be satisfied until we get Zaza Pachulia.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 10:58 PM EST reply actions
here comes Billups’ legs in this NBA commercial
/eyes welling up
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 10:58 PM EST reply actions
Sheed will get his, no doubt in my mind. What that is, I am not so sure.
by Laughton on Nov 13, 2008 10:58 PM EST reply actions
Garrett, I looked at Zaza Pachulia’s shot chart from the last 3 seasons and I’ve decided he’s one of the best centers to ever play in the NBA.
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 10:59 PM EST reply actions
We’re 115-14 when we shoot 45% or more since 2005-2006? Whoa.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:00 PM EST reply actions
There’s a foul — Amir’s in the game! So frustrating!
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:01 PM EST reply actions
Amir needs to beef up, this is getting old watching him flail around in the paint and not finishing at the rack like a real man
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:01 PM EST reply actions
Curry’s not playing around now. Sit down, young fella and watch for a bit.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:02 PM EST reply actions
Rip off the dribble shot = worse than my turnaround jumper from the elbow in pickup games
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:02 PM EST reply actions
Boney – false, unless you are actually Gilbert Arenas :)
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:03 PM EST reply actions
umm…
this whole hanging the bananas from the NBA Live logo could be construed as racist… I mean, let’s be honest with ourselves
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:03 PM EST reply actions
off topic (from me? shocker, I know)
I played a pickup game for the first time in a long time the other day at the gym. The guys on my team were clowning me because I was roaming around the long line on the offensive end the whole game.
I heard remarks such as “you’re just like Robert Horry only a foot shorter, white, and you don’t make as many”
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:06 PM EST reply actions
Boney: We play the same game. If I get any rebounds it’s an accident.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:07 PM EST reply actions
Zaza Pachulia would’ve been the best President ever had he run on the Independent ticket.
Just look at his shot chart…
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:08 PM EST reply actions
damnit Maxiell
there it goes… rock the cradle baby
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Garrett, only difference between you and I (I assume) is I’ve got a sweet lefty stroke from long distance.
I dribble worse than Rip, but I pass like Magic
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:10 PM EST reply actions
Golden State gonna get eated up. Max is getting hungry.
by Laughton on Nov 13, 2008 11:11 PM EST reply actions
If I look away from the screen for a second and then look back, I always see us clanging jumpers off the rim. I wish someone would take it to the hole, cut, set some screens, move without the ball, etc.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:11 PM EST reply actions
I don’t know what Duncan, McGrady, et al were picking teams for, but if it was for a Double Dash competition, I bet I could have taken a few of those punks
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:13 PM EST reply actions
Not a bad finish to the quarter. Let’s see we can finally put together an entire first half of non-awful basketball.
by Michael on Nov 13, 2008 11:13 PM EST reply actions
Haha! Curry just got called out on TNT!
“You played Amir for 32 seconds! WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?!?!”
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:15 PM EST reply actions
Maybe we should ease Rip into this whole you’re-not-getting-anymore-screens thing. We need him to get some confidence back in his shooting.
by Greg on Nov 13, 2008 11:15 PM EST reply actions
Forty,
Tell me why the only white guy in the Dwight Howard dance-off commercial makes me feel awkward when I see him gyrate while doing his dance.
Brandon Wright is an ugly dude, by the way
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:15 PM EST reply actions
Don Nelson looks like he had some real bad seafood.
by Laughton on Nov 13, 2008 11:16 PM EST reply actions
- Voted for Biedrins for All-Stars today **
- Unfortunately he’s showing us why.
by Restructer_It on Nov 13, 2008 11:16 PM EST reply actions
See how Brandon Wright cuts to the rim when he doesn’t have the ball, and then he gets the ball in a good position to score (usually wide open)? We need to do that.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:16 PM EST reply actions
How are we only down 3? GS is gonna get rolled as soon as we play basketball!
by Laughton on Nov 13, 2008 11:18 PM EST reply actions
I heard we had a guy named Rip or something like that, who was good at moving without the ball… Wonder where he went.
by Restructer_It on Nov 13, 2008 11:18 PM EST reply actions
Boney – I know, you’d think the guy who would stand out would be the 7’ guy with 40 inch biceps. But let’s face it, some people just aren’t meant to crank that Soulja Boy.
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:19 PM EST reply actions
Since Detroit doesn’t play half court offense anymore, Rip sucks.
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:19 PM EST reply actions
It looks like Iverson is starting to get comfortable with our offensive flow.
by Diablo on Nov 13, 2008 11:20 PM EST reply actions
I like Brandon Wright, reminds me of Tay only without the range.
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:21 PM EST reply actions
I’d rather see AI as a sixth man than Rip – can you imagine what our offense would be with Rip running the show on the second unit. Clear out for one of the worst driving 2’s in the league baby!
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:21 PM EST reply actions
I swear since getting Iverson we’ve missed more easy/open jumpers and lay-ups than any time in the history of the universe. How did Maxiell miss that lay-up?
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:22 PM EST reply actions
“It looks like Iverson is our offensive flow.”
*corrected
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:22 PM EST reply actions
curry is very funny. unintentionally, but that 35 second remark about amir was hilarious.
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 11:23 PM EST reply actions
Forty: But if Stuckey plays a more Chauncey-esque game than AI, maybe him and Rip could co-exist on offense? Although right now I’m not missing Stuckey much because Bynum is playing well (and finishing better than Stuckey, I hate to say).
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:23 PM EST reply actions
Its so wild how Bynum is contributing at a high level this early in the season, I never would have thunk it.
by Rban on Nov 13, 2008 11:23 PM EST reply actions
rob g-was that you with “by’em” today? that’s going to stick….
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 11:24 PM EST reply actions
I love watching guys like Bynum who play like they’ve got something to prove.
by Restructer_It on Nov 13, 2008 11:24 PM EST reply actions
Pistons are getting a lot of bad, weird bounces on both ends. It seems like a ton of point blank shots have gone in-and-out for us. Hopefully those will start dropping.
by Michael on Nov 13, 2008 11:24 PM EST reply actions
Good point Garrett. And Rip’s ass would be out of the rotation if Curry didn’t want him dribbling. To say Curry “doesn’t give a fuck” would be putting it mildly. He’s crazy and i love it.
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:26 PM EST reply actions
AGAIN, we play small and people can’t get the ball into the post. i guess it’s a genius lineup.
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 11:26 PM EST reply actions
Restructer_It,
I remember way back when, when 4 of the starters for Detroit were those type of players
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:27 PM EST reply actions
jackdutch – yes, that’s my call. And he’s living up to the name
by Rob G on Nov 13, 2008 11:27 PM EST reply actions
I’m glad he missed, I don’t know if I would have been able to sleep tonight if he threw that down
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:29 PM EST reply actions
Stuckey better be careful or Bynum’s gonna eat his minutes like Maxiell eats babies.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:30 PM EST reply actions
Who needs Viagra when you got Will Bynum throwing down thunderdunks on guys a foot taller than him?
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:30 PM EST reply actions
It’s official, Bynum is trying to take Stuckey’s spot.
by Diablo on Nov 13, 2008 11:31 PM EST reply actions
yeah if i were stuckey i’d get “undizzy” pretty damn quick.
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 11:32 PM EST reply actions
Irony: Doug Collins saying Tayshaun is playing too many minutes and doing too many things, therefor he’ll get worn down for the playoffs.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 PM EST reply actions
Bynum is going to have a shoe endorsement by the end of the night if he keeps playing like this
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:33 PM EST reply actions
That turnover will get Stuckey’s spot back in a hurry.
by Diablo on Nov 13, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions
maybe we can trade Rodney Stuckey for Thad Young and Lou Williams
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions
I know he’s playing the point, but Bynum needs to pass less.
by Michael on Nov 13, 2008 11:35 PM EST reply actions
Were not trading Stuckey period and Bynum cant take his spot lol, his potential is to high, with his size and speed and strength, Bynum is like a smaller version of stuckey, but abit more confident right now.
by Rban on Nov 13, 2008 11:36 PM EST reply actions
Why did Herrmann fall out favor? Did he seduce Curry’s wife?
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:36 PM EST reply actions
I could use a dash of Herrmann right about now… we need some flailing arms and hair flying around
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:36 PM EST reply actions
Every Eastern conference team needs a South American flailer
by Rob G on Nov 13, 2008 11:38 PM EST reply actions
Forty and Rob G have been on fire lately. Kudos to you, gentlemen.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:38 PM EST reply actions
Bynum is actually stealing Herrmann’s minutes, not Stuckey’s…
by Restructer_It on Nov 13, 2008 11:39 PM EST reply actions
yeah, no herrrmannn against a team like this is silly.
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 11:39 PM EST reply actions
Maybe Curry doesn’t think Herrmann can run with these guys.
I think he will definately get a lot of burn in LA.
by Diablo on Nov 13, 2008 11:39 PM EST reply actions
Considering how fast Amir got yanked, we can probably assume Herrmann scrrewed somethinng up
by Rob G on Nov 13, 2008 11:41 PM EST reply actions
Rip took a second to hesitate on that jumper. He was wide open when he curled around the screen and got the pass from Tay. Don’t think, just shoot.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:42 PM EST reply actions
I think I have more confidence in my post game than Amir does in his
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:42 PM EST reply actions
Noticed the same thing Garrett. He needs to jack it up, he’s too good a shooter not to.
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:44 PM EST reply actions
Could you imagine if Amir got the respect KG gets? If you drive directly into Kevin Garnett and he goes straight up, you would NEVER get the call.
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:45 PM EST reply actions
If Herrmann gets another DNP, I sure hope someone asks Curry about it.
by Greg on Nov 13, 2008 11:45 PM EST reply actions
God, I hope someday I have grandchildren, and I play basketball with them, and when they miss their shots, I will scream “Ball don’t lie! That ball don’t lie!”
by Rob G on Nov 13, 2008 11:46 PM EST reply actions
Is my feed alive? It’s frozen with Rip on the line. DID HE MAKE THE FREE THROW OR WHAT?!?!?!
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:46 PM EST reply actions
Hard to officiate? No question that was a foul on AI.
by Michael on Nov 13, 2008 11:46 PM EST reply actions
Biedrins with ANOTHER double-double. That guy is fantastic.
by Rob G on Nov 13, 2008 11:47 PM EST reply actions
Biedrins looks like a member of an 80’s new wave band. He needs a synthesizer.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:48 PM EST reply actions
by Diablo on Nov 13, 2008 11:48 PM EST reply actions
Garrett – only use Yahoo’s feed – it’s the only one that works consistently
by Rob G on Nov 13, 2008 11:48 PM EST reply actions
Biedrins has to be a villain in the next Bond movie. He just has to.
by Laughton on Nov 13, 2008 11:48 PM EST reply actions
And I hate hearing that Shaq is the hardest player in the NBA to officiate. Just because he is so big that it’s hard for him to make a move without knocking his defender off of their established position doesn’t mean he should get a pass on all of is offensive fouls.
by Michael on Nov 13, 2008 11:49 PM EST reply actions
Thanks Diablo!
Rob G: I was using that one Primosh linked to at the start of this thread and it was working flawlessly until now. Now I’m trying the Diablo link and it’s really smooth.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 PM EST reply actions
trade Rodney Stuckey for Marco Belinelli and Samuel Dalembert
this Belinelli kid has got some serious range
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 PM EST reply actions
a flock of latvians.
disgusted with rip running at steven jackson at the end of the half without his hand up. we gave the guy a 3 year extension. he better get his head back into this game pretty f-ing quick.
by JackDutch on Nov 13, 2008 11:50 PM EST reply actions
I’ve noticed I love the trade more when they’re NOT playing.
by TDP on Nov 13, 2008 11:51 PM EST reply actions
“I’m Chris Bosh of the Det…err Toronto Raptors. The NBA, where caring happens”
by Forty on Nov 13, 2008 11:51 PM EST reply actions
You can’t guard Will Bynum one-on-one!
You can only hope to contain him.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:52 PM EST reply actions
Amir needs to finish at the rack like a man.
He needs to flush it in someone’s face just once.
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:53 PM EST reply actions
Boney: I agree. For a guy who people say can jump so high (and he’s already really tall) I NEVER see him get up and crush it on people like he should.
by Garrett on Nov 13, 2008 11:54 PM EST reply actions
Seriously, if he can get up for one those mix tape style throwdowns it will put him on the map.
Right now, he’s just the unknown kid who was starting for a while and now he’s not starting and who really cares other than us blind homer piston fans right?
Amir needs to catch the ball in the post, slam the ball down on the dribble turn to his strong side, go up and thunder it down like Max does
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:56 PM EST reply actions
the highlights of Amir catching that pass in the paint from AI and how he goes up for the layup with his arms and legs going everywhere is pathetic.
sure he made the shot, but this fucking guy needs to throw it down.
THROW IT DOWN BIG FELLA
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:57 PM EST reply actions
1992 Kemp, complete with ballsack grab dunk on Dikembe
by Boney on Nov 13, 2008 11:59 PM EST reply actions
you know what
I want to see Amir show some emotion
get a technical, say something about somebody’s momma… block a shot and wag your finger in his face…
get pissed… jesus, don’t just jog down the court
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Amir is too much of a finesse player, he would need alot more strength in his legs to pull off a dunk like that.
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 12:00 AM EST reply actions
Someone needs to paste together all of Boney’s comments, make a brochure, and hand it to Amir.
by Keegan on Nov 14, 2008 12:01 AM EST reply actions
1992 Kemp, complete with 17 illegitimate children?
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:01 AM EST reply actions
Boney, lots of guys who don’t show emotion are winners. Did you know All-Star Tracy McGrady is called the sleepy-eyed assassin?
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:02 AM EST reply actions
that’s butter, that’s butter baby… that’s margarine
PEANUT BUTTER AND JELLY
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:02 AM EST reply actions
Given Kemp’s libido in the mid 90’s, the real mystery is why they didn’t just name the team Thunder back then
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:03 AM EST reply actions
I’ve said before that I think the Pistons need an athletic dunker. Maxiell eats a baby every now and then, but back in 2004 we were throwing alley-oops and dunking it left and right. I want Amir to be that guy who has a momentum-changing slam, but so far I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:04 AM EST reply actions
Forty: Tim Duncan is another player that comes to mind also.
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 12:04 AM EST reply actions
I still remember playing NBA Live 95 on my Sega Genesis and scoring 500 points on 250 dunks with my All-Kemp team. Good times, good times…
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:04 AM EST reply actions
Primo only wants to play in a town where there’s a Starbucks and a used Hip-Hop record store
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:06 AM EST reply actions
Keegan,
just bring me in like Matt Foley to talk to Amir:
You’ll have plenty of time to live in a Van down by the river when you’re livin’ in a VAN down by the RIVER!
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:07 AM EST reply actions
Countdown to Maggette getting hurt? T-minus 11 minutes……….
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:10 AM EST reply actions
you know what, this is bullshit
this is absolute horseshit
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:10 AM EST reply actions
I feel kind of bad for AI. He must have been so psyched to come here and now he’s probably thinking, “Hey, where’d the Detroit Pistons go?”
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:11 AM EST reply actions
One would think these guys have already tuned MC out.
I know AI is new but you know what, these fucking guys have played together long enough that they should have one another’s back when an assignment is missed.
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:13 AM EST reply actions
This game suddenly got a lot sexier. I’m just saying.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:14 AM EST reply actions
At what point do we refer to Sheed and AI as “the Capspace Crew”?
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:15 AM EST reply actions
Definetly missing Stuckey’s organised point duties.
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 14, 2008 12:16 AM EST reply actions
Sheed is getting traded in january if we keep this up.
by Restructer_It on Nov 14, 2008 12:16 AM EST reply actions
We need to stop giving them second chances and these are some lousy fouls they are calling on Herrmann.
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 12:17 AM EST reply actions
At what point do we refer to AI and Sheed as “AI’s expiring deal” and “Sheed’s expiring deal”?
/Bill Simmons’d
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:17 AM EST reply actions
Apparently we’re the only ones mesmerized by Herrmann’s beauty.
by Greg on Nov 14, 2008 12:18 AM EST reply actions
They went small and we went handsome…whichever team forces the other to adjust usually wins
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:18 AM EST reply actions
Cory Maggette is the greatest superstar in the NBA.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:18 AM EST reply actions
Seriously, where are all these fouls coming from?
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions
@Forty:
GS is going to have to bring in Turiaf…
by Restructer_It on Nov 14, 2008 12:20 AM EST reply actions
What was Afflalo thinking breathing on Maggette? Easy call.
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:20 AM EST reply actions
I wish some of our championship-winning players got Maggette-esque respect from the refs.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:21 AM EST reply actions
That Biedrins missed dunk was possibly the goofiest basketball play I’ve ever seen.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:22 AM EST reply actions
Finally they miss an easy one. Maybe our bad luck is evening out.
by Michael on Nov 14, 2008 12:22 AM EST reply actions
@ Garrett
I don’t want to brag, but I was the only person clamoring for Corey Maggette’s services this past offseason
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:22 AM EST reply actions
Boney we all know you were eyeing Kaman, quit with this revisionist history bullshit
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:24 AM EST reply actions
Forty,
I actually wanted to trade Rasheed to the Clippers for Cuttino Mobley and Shaun Livingston
the Clippers have the best players in the league, because I have season tickets I know!
/LB’d
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:25 AM EST reply actions
Please, TNT. Kevin Garnett did not beat us last year.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:25 AM EST reply actions
Why do we make it look so easy for the other team to simply walk down the middle of the lane and dunk? whywhywhwywhwywhwywhwy?
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:26 AM EST reply actions
That should be the shot Rip should be getting and making all the time.
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 12:27 AM EST reply actions
That’s more like it, Rip! CATCH AND SHOOT. Don’t think.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:27 AM EST reply actions
Nice, McDyess officially cleared waivers. Thanks Memphis!
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:28 AM EST reply actions
Since I’ve been sick of Afflalo’s dumb nicknames I tried to look up alternatives. Afflalo Creed?:
http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2007/04/01/potentially-great-nickname-afflalo-creed/
by Restructer_It on Nov 14, 2008 12:28 AM EST reply actions
I totally picture Dumars and McDyess sitting down before the trade and concocting an Ocean’s 11-esque plan to come back to the Pistons while lounge music played in the background.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:29 AM EST reply actions
Don’t say Afflalo Creed this game, because that big Latvian guy might kill him in the ring
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:29 AM EST reply actions
Nice keep it up, love the energy swing
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 14, 2008 12:30 AM EST reply actions
Ha, didn’t make that connection till you just said that.
by Restructer_It on Nov 14, 2008 12:30 AM EST reply actions
Nice finish Afflalo! And our guys are fired up. Emotion is a good thing.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:31 AM EST reply actions
Afflalo = much needed spark off the bench. Finally.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:32 AM EST reply actions
Im welling up with joy at the play of spellcheck and the team.
by Laughton on Nov 14, 2008 12:32 AM EST reply actions
Sorry for stepping on your toes, Rob. My bad. Haha.
by TDP on Nov 14, 2008 12:32 AM EST reply actions
Anyone catch what Curry just said to Iverson?
by Restructer_It on Nov 14, 2008 12:33 AM EST reply actions
how much do we love spellcheck?
is it at a point for him to get his own t-shirt?
by JackDutch on Nov 14, 2008 12:33 AM EST reply actions
More and more, I’m starting to feel like Afflalo could possibly be a bigger part of this team than first expected.
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 12:33 AM EST reply actions
@Jackdutch – A tee shirt of him laying it up with red squiggles under his name?
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:34 AM EST reply actions
We should be playing like this 100% of the time. We have the personnel to keep up this pace for an entire game. Hopefully this is a glimpse of things to come.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:34 AM EST reply actions
Laughton: AI is bad at the game of basketball…………NOT.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:37 AM EST reply actions
WHAT?! Rasheed driving the lane and getting a dump??!?
by Greg on Nov 14, 2008 12:37 AM EST reply actions
God I hope we play like this in the fourth. Watching us d a team up like this is like heroin. During the sub-70 point streak, I was at 12 o lock 24-7.
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:37 AM EST reply actions
AI is making me forget who we traded for him.
by Laughton on Nov 14, 2008 12:37 AM EST reply actions
no way this team makes it out of the first round of the playoffs
/prophecy projekts’d
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:39 AM EST reply actions
We want the boards, we won’t let them score, we know they can’t stop us. We finally realized we’re still better than 95% of the NBA when we put our minds to it.
by Big Mike on Nov 14, 2008 12:39 AM EST reply actions
It’s nice to get a glimpse of how this thing could all come together.
by Michael on Nov 14, 2008 12:39 AM EST reply actions
I don’t know what Michael Curry said to these guys at half-time but that defense clamped down right away.
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 12:39 AM EST reply actions
+1 to whoever said they hope one day they’re playing basketball with their grandkids just so they can yell “BALL DONT LIE” when they miss a shot
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:40 AM EST reply actions
Man, we should come out fired up like that every game. It’s awesome to see guys high-fiving and yelling stuff. Defensive intensity picks up and that leads to nice fast break buckets and lets AI and Rip run.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:40 AM EST reply actions
Does anyone know what’s going on in that “Tim Duncan meets kids on a bus” commercial?
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:40 AM EST reply actions
Rob,
McGrady is on that bus, he’s the one that says “Welcome to Houston baby!”
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:41 AM EST reply actions
Boney: That doesn’t clear it up at all. what’s the point?
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:42 AM EST reply actions
I really enjoy listening to Don Nelson – he has forgotten more basketball than I’ll ever know
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:43 AM EST reply actions
Curry +1 for having the balls to sub out Sheed.
Sheed will now destroy as soon as he gets back on.
by Laughton on Nov 14, 2008 12:46 AM EST reply actions
Tayshaun’s hook is the most unstoppable offensive move in the NBA.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:47 AM EST reply actions
Gotta get Sheed in to help kill this zone before they catch up
by Lucas on Nov 14, 2008 12:48 AM EST reply actions
Tayshaun with only 9? This is not the Tayshaun I’ve grown to know and love the last 2 weeks.
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 12:48 AM EST reply actions
Has anyone ever had every channel on their cable service freeze? I am so there.
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:48 AM EST reply actions
Rob: it’s a series of commercials that starts (I think) with Gilbert Arenas picking some kids up from the playground and then taking them around to various stars to teach them stuff. It’s the same set of commercials that has Dwight Howard randomly teaching them to dance and then leaving that kid hanging from the rim.
by Matt Watson on Nov 14, 2008 12:48 AM EST reply actions
Hard to tell, but I think Bynum is back in the house.
by Laughton on Nov 14, 2008 12:49 AM EST reply actions
Ever since AI got the team fired up, this game has been awesome. Crowd into it, guys hustling and playing d. Love it.
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:49 AM EST reply actions
I think I’d want my money back from that camp if they left me hanging on the rim and taught me how to dance.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:49 AM EST reply actions
that dancing commercial can go away as far as I’m concerned… making me look bad as a white male
I’m not saying I can dance, just saying that the gyrating on the balls of his feet while trying to “supaman dat ho” is just embarrassing
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 12:50 AM EST reply actions
Random fact: Tom Cavanaugh and I went to the same Canadian university. He’s a HUGE basketball fan and can play a little, too.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:51 AM EST reply actions
Matt W – thank you. It still makes little sense in the context of selling shoes, but that’s why I’m not a marketing guy!
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 12:51 AM EST reply actions
I love how Afflalo stays in front of his man. Great D.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:53 AM EST reply actions
We’re just absurdly small right now on the floor…time for sheed to come back
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 12:54 AM EST reply actions
!!!! we cut off the AB’s goofy streak to the basket
by Lucas on Nov 14, 2008 1:00 AM EST reply actions
Sneaky cut by Rip down low. We need more of that!
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:01 AM EST reply actions
This is Afflalo’s best game as a Piston. And I love that Curry is rewarding him for his effort.
by Greg on Nov 14, 2008 1:02 AM EST reply actions
Can I just say again that Justin.TV is the best thing ever? God bless teh interwebs.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:04 AM EST reply actions
Shouldnt be encouraged by his threes…
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 14, 2008 1:05 AM EST reply actions
I’m liking the help defence right now. I wish we would consistently do that.
by Big Mike on Nov 14, 2008 1:06 AM EST reply actions
We need to yank Rasheed from the game more often when he gets Ts.
by Diablo on Nov 14, 2008 1:06 AM EST reply actions
Seriously. It’s like someone hit Pause at Comcast. Every fucking channel on my TV is frozen. This is killing me.
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 1:08 AM EST reply actions
Prophecy – they were killing us with a zone when Rasheed went to the bench. It was allowing them to pack the lane against our small but poor-shooting lineup. Rasheed’s three point shooting ability is about to win the game for us.
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 1:08 AM EST reply actions
I think even Big Ben had a slightly less horrible looking free throw then Bierdens.
by Gogol on Nov 14, 2008 1:09 AM EST reply actions
I hate that Biedrins is even getting the ball in such good scoring position. We need to D up the passer too.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:09 AM EST reply actions
Man, the Warriors CRASH the offensive boards. Bodies flying every where.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:11 AM EST reply actions
This Tay as point forward experiment seems like a keeper, no?
by Forty on Nov 14, 2008 1:12 AM EST reply actions
So we run Rip’s curl twice the entire game: back-to-back in the 4th quarter with 1 minute left to play, and it works flawlessly both times. Hmm.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:12 AM EST reply actions
who said that you should take my comments about Amir, print them out and hand them to Amir?
If Amir took it to the rack strong like Afflalo, he’d be a force
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 1:12 AM EST reply actions
Anyone else see Sheed’s dunk coming well ahead of time and expect a tech?
by Lucas on Nov 14, 2008 1:12 AM EST reply actions
I like Tay, but he needs some of that skin exfoliating cream…
he’s like a 13 year old kid with all that acne
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 1:14 AM EST reply actions
Boney: You know who has flawless skin? Michael Curry.
I’m just saying.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:14 AM EST reply actions
I think it’s some weird freckle complexion that comes with being a pterodactyl.
by Greg on Nov 14, 2008 1:15 AM EST reply actions
Does anybody remember that old stat from years ago about when Sheed scored 20 or something, we won like 90% or so of our games?
by Gogol on Nov 14, 2008 1:18 AM EST reply actions
For me, the stat of the game: Tayshaun with 14 rebounds. He was HUGE getting the ball (oops, make that 15) when we went small. that’s a big deal, and no one will talk about it, but that was the shit right there.
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 1:21 AM EST reply actions
What a great play, NBA. Really have to protect the offense from when you know theyre purposely running into the defense and the defense hits the shooters elbow with the d’s stomach
by Lucas on Nov 14, 2008 1:22 AM EST reply actions
Monta Ellis would’ve run past AI all night
I hate to admit it, but he would’ve had he not wrecked ATVs or whatever over the offseason
by Boney on Nov 14, 2008 1:22 AM EST reply actions
Good for Tay for stepping up when no one else could seem to get a board. Hopefully our bigs can take of that load off him, though!
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:23 AM EST reply actions
9 assists for AI. He can share it. He shared his toys in kindergarten. Must be a commie.
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 1:23 AM EST reply actions
Lucas: I don’t the NBA is doing enough. Those stomach fouls should’ve been flagrants.
by Michael on Nov 14, 2008 1:25 AM EST reply actions
Congrats to CJ Watson, recipient of the “Random Scrub To Light Us Up” Award! 17 points, 2 steals, 1 assist, 6 rebounds.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:25 AM EST reply actions
Hi, I’m J.A. Adande and I would like to ask for some help with a medical condition. It involves my foot and my mouth…
by Laughton on Nov 14, 2008 1:27 AM EST reply actions
SO I totally missed it when Curry benched Sheed. what happened exactly?
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 1:28 AM EST reply actions
Just wanted to share a random thought:
Prince > Marion
by Mike Payne on Nov 14, 2008 1:28 AM EST reply actions
Rob G: True, but have you heard of him before tonight? It seems some random guy that nobody knows always does well against us. Watson is averaging 7 ppg and 3 rpg in 24 minutes.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:29 AM EST reply actions
Yeah. Actually, I really enjoy your scrub awards. keep ’em up.
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 1:30 AM EST reply actions
rob g: good pitch. roll together a business plan and we’ll go from there. what do you think? we could sell about 10,000 of those? $20 a pop? i’m pretty sure the t-shirt market is recession-proof.
by JackDutch on Nov 14, 2008 1:31 AM EST reply actions
JackDutch – you’re right. Everyone wears clothes, no matter the economy. Except in those loony nudist colonies. But they aren’t our market, are they?
by Rob G on Nov 14, 2008 1:34 AM EST reply actions
Nice interview with Sheed and AI. We talkin’ about practice never gets old.
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:42 AM EST reply actions
“If I get a technical or two…or three. My son tells me” lol
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 14, 2008 1:43 AM EST reply actions
“I’m not a fan of the arm sleeve for AI.”
“I can see the arm sleeve if you have one of those gay pad in it, but not just for the sake of having a sleeve.”
Boney, I read that AI started the arm sleeve trend because it make easier for refs to see when he’s hit on the arm.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 14, 2008 1:45 AM EST reply actions
Sheed’s a millionaire — how come he doesn’t get his teeth fixed?
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 1:48 AM EST reply actions
Because when you’re a millionaire, you don’t need nice teeth.
by Matt Watson on Nov 14, 2008 1:50 AM EST reply actions
THIS game got 400+ comments?
Matt, you have got something on your hands here.
by kevin s. on Nov 14, 2008 2:00 AM EST reply actions
While I will be representing the underdog tomorrow night at Staples Center, I can rest assured that they don’t look like a team that the Lakers can just walk all over. Might even be a good game and/or a Pistons win. Very reassuring win tonight by the boys.
by LawyerBoy on Nov 14, 2008 2:05 AM EST reply actions
http://www.freep.com/article/20081113/COL22/81113121/1051/SPORTS03
billups on trade… feel bad for dude
by Mannie32 on Nov 14, 2008 2:07 AM EST reply actions
I just can’t understand Curry’s “Start someone, and only play them 10 minutes” philosophy one bit. I know Kwame sucks and all, but what the heck is the point of starting him, then?
by Gogol on Nov 14, 2008 2:17 AM EST reply actions
I think things are shaping up nicely and Curry is figuring out rotations that work. When Stuckey is back I think the second unit is really going to click and the crappy second quarters will be a thing of the past. I’d say something negative about the sick minutes that a few starters are playing but A) Stuckey is out, B) the best tonic for the 0-2 unsettling after the AI trade is winning, minutes be damned, and C) I want the best record in the East. When the team is jelled, then cut back on the minutes.
I love the road wins and love what I’m seeing from Coach Curry.
by joejoejoe on Nov 14, 2008 3:59 AM EST reply actions
This will be a repeat of last year’s blowout at Staples vs the Pistons
Lakers should win handily
My guess is by at least 25 points
Give the points and take the Lakers.
You can’t lose on this one.
Pistons are two weeks into a four week road trip.
The flight to Los Angeles from Oakland was their 8th or 9th plane trip in the last 13 days. I am not sure if they flew home after the Wash game before turning around and flying to Charlotte. I do know that they flew home after the Charlotte game for one day before flying on to Toronto
Single games at home surrounded by road games count as a road games because you are still doing one game stands and in this case one night stands.
Their road trip continues until Nov 26th which will be the first time that they will have played consecutive games at home since Nov 1st.
by Mike on Nov 14, 2008 10:22 AM EST reply actions
@Matt
True statement. In the non-sports world, Billy Corgan has probably the most f’d grill you’ll ever see. But when you gots the cash, you gets the ass.
by Joel on Nov 14, 2008 10:50 AM EST reply actions
It’s like when Chris Rock was on Oprah when he was younger, and he freaked out because his teeth were all crooked and he was like, “How could you let me come on your show with bad teeth, Oprah? Everyone out there with bad teeth, you’ve got to get those fixed!” Not like I watch Oprah or anything……….
by Garrett on Nov 14, 2008 12:25 PM EST reply actions
Mike,
You are killing me with the negativity!
Geeez.
by Colin on Nov 14, 2008 12:30 PM EST reply actions

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