Pistons host Cavs
by Matt W on Nov 19, 2008 2:46 PM CST
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We're 10 games into the season and the Pistons have played only three games at the Palace. If that looks funny to you, there's good reason: only two other teams (Portland and Atlanta) are still waiting to play their fourth home game of the year. Fortunately things will start to even out: five of the next six games are at home, with the exception of tomorrow's re-match in Boston.
Tonight the Pistons host the Cavs, and will attempt to chip away at Cleveland's one and a half game lead in the Central. I'll be at the game, but instead of working I've been invited to the Grand Opening of the Canadian Club Terrace for some pre-game whiskey tasting and dinner, which is why you're getting such an early game thread. Blogging, it's a glamorous life, I tell you.
The ball tips at 7:30 on FSN -- leave your thoughts in the comments.
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This is off topic, but I’d really like to see MC use Amir the way Portland is using Oden. Throwing him out there, dealing with his ups and downs even if it costs a few wins, putting him in the best possibility to succeed.
by Shinons on Nov 19, 2008 3:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
post any stream links of the game if u find them.
by Rban on Nov 19, 2008 3:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wont be able to watch this one as I have an exam. I hope I return in time to see the end. My damn life is interfering with my Pistons again dammit!
Prediction: Detroit wins, 105 – 92
Or thats my opinion anyway.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 5:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wait shinons – you mean we should be patient with a 21 year old with insane upside who every nba statistician agrees is one of the most productive players on the roster? But don’t we need to try and win every game in the regular season? And isn’t it more fun to give up on amir 5 games into the season and say that a guy who’s had one of the highest rebound rates in the nba is too soft?
Sometimes I just don’t get you.
by Forty on Nov 19, 2008 6:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oh no! Justin.tv is letting me down! I’m not getting the stream! My world is crumbling.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 6:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah…and video feed is kinda crappy tonight…..go PISTONS!
by Primosh on Nov 19, 2008 6:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if sheed doesn’t miss the rest of the game, i like our odds…
by JackDutch on Nov 19, 2008 6:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Whew. It’s working now. I can come back in off the ledge.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 6:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Diplomacy at its finest from Special K: “I think you have to get Kwame Brown the ball when he’s READY…”
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 6:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
“Wait shinons – you mean we should be patient with a 21 year old with insane upside who every nba statistician agrees is one of the most productive players on the roster?”
If only he could learn how to bat the ball out of bounds.
by kevin s. on Nov 19, 2008 6:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I hate J.A Adande
almost as much as I hate Chris Sheridan
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 6:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
anyone got a link that works for this game
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 6:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
http://www.justin.tv/ballerzzz is working now (at least it is for me).
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That really pissed me off that Tay couldn’t put it in the hoop after that isolation.
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 7:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man, LeBron is just on a whole ‘nother level. Everything he does is just pretty much better than everyone else on the court. He moves quicker, jumps higher, runs faster. Even his passes seem to be more crisp. I think I’d spontaneously combust if we got him in 2010.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Frustration: thy name is Amir. Awesome rebound and outlet to Rip, he ran the floor hard and got it back for a wide-open dunk. Then he comes back down and falls for a Varejao pump fake 15 feet from the basket and fouls him.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
anyone see the thing going across the espn ticker that the bobcats are trying to sign ’Dyess?
by Satchmo on Nov 19, 2008 7:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
there is no fluidity in the offense and the cavs seem locked on
D
maybe they are related
by wutsurbeef on Nov 19, 2008 7:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But……..if the game doesn’t come back on that means I have to do work! :(
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe that into his 4th season the Pistons coaches still haven’t taught Amir how to draw a charge.
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 7:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Forty, I don’t know what I was thinking – especially when we can give 30 minutes a game to THE Kwame Brown.
by Shinons on Nov 19, 2008 7:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
that’s the second time amir has done that
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 7:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Amir needs to put on like 25lbs
I’m tired of watching these offseason videos Matt Watson puts up of Amir doing things like conditioning… he needs to just sit at Fat Burger and eat
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 7:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
we’ve committed 11 fouls.
to cleveland’s 4.
are they just playing that much better defense?
by JackDutch on Nov 19, 2008 7:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ben with the airball! I think that was for us. solitary tear That one….was for us.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
there it is, i thought for a second that air ball was going to get a pass on dbb…
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 7:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
maxiell hasn’t done much this season either…
by wutsurbeef on Nov 19, 2008 7:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
either off. or deff fourl reffs have been terrible this half
by wutsurbeef on Nov 19, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Terrible no-call on that Tayshaun drive.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Amir needs to find some of the weight JMax lost.
Anyone here have strong feelings one way or another about Varejao? He inspires… emotions in me.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 7:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
if I saw Varejao on the street, I’d call him a punk bitch to his face.
those are the feelings he inspires
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 7:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You guys’ feed is about 3 minutes behind… If something crazy happens at the end i’ll try to keep my mouth closed.
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 7:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That third foul on Amir was BS.
West jumped into him as the shot clock expired with no intent to even shoot the ball. Total baloney.
As Chick Hearn used to say.
“No Harm No Foul”
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i’m thinking this spring is going to be much less stressful. unless of course my new fave team the nuggets really make a play for the west.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I was really hoping we’d close that quarter out right. Instead, we let Mo go on a mini-run.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 7:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cutting Special K loose! Giving him some minutes on the tele-strator! I like this.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 7:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and mcdyess should have considered a yes on that trade. and nothing would make me happier than to eat a bowl of uncooked crow but the trade is looking pretty bad right now at least for this year. sorry to be so negative.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 7:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kelser is makin a much sense as bill walton
by wutsurbeef on Nov 19, 2008 7:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
At least we don’t have to listen to the Raptor’s crew. I just flipped it to their game and it’s like listening to a golf broadcast.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thanx garret for the working link. and yeah, agree with andy.
by detroitblue on Nov 19, 2008 7:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Whoa, Iverson can still get up! Nice steal by Kwame.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 8:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
haiku
fighting our way back,
Tayshaun, the Answer can beat
FPLBJ
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 8:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Afflalo comes in for the 1st time all game and immediately drains a 3. Nice.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 8:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i hate the cavs more than i hate the celtics. i hate lebran and varejow
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 8:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You can’t stop AA, you can only hope to contain him.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 8:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I know Rodney Stuckey is getting trapped on the pick but I wish he get his hand up atleast even if Mo Williams is already about to shoot.
by Diablo on Nov 19, 2008 8:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
wow i’ve never seen such an ill advised shot… and he made it!
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 8:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! again
by Diablo on Nov 19, 2008 8:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus even the radio feed is awful tonight
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Get on the blocks ’Sheed! Oh nevermind…
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice take AI.
Stuckey is running the pick and roll very well down the stretch.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This Iverson kid is kinda nice you know…
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
more haiku
Afflalo, bench secret
no more! Bangin’ tramps, playing D
on Lebron. Snowflake?
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 8:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Pistons won’t make it out of the first round of the playoffs this year.
Regards,
Prophecy_Projekts
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Calmy handled by Rodders there
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 8:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, Sheed I know you could shoot 3s but when did you become so deadly accurate?
by Diablo on Nov 19, 2008 8:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That’s just wrong. Rasheed looks a cross between Wilt and Steve Kerr out there.
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 8:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I really like that Curry stuck with this line-up down the stretch.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sheed must have been talking to Charles Barkley these last few days… Rasheed Wallace can be a top three player in this league!
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Damn we have some scorers on this team. I think they play defense, too.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 8:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
@Joejoejoe
If you mean he’s sleeping with a lotta hoes and dismantling exciting teams….maybe.
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 8:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
we’re making a habit outta ruining teams’ winning streaks… first LA now Cleveland
i like that
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 8:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
PP – you make so many negative comments, but I gotta do it
+1
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 8:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
lol@ Iverson dribbling around there like he’s 12.
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 8:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland took way too many 3 balls. We must have defended pretty well.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 8:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Don’t call it a comeback, we’ve been here for years!
by Q Dog on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like how Stuckey gets the chest bump from LeBron. It’s like “you’re my PG in London 2012, right?”.
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We won the battle for McDyess!
Great win. Great second half…outscored them 58-40.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 8:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This was a very good win, real confidence booster against basically the conference favourites. Especially considering the boys came from behind (pause) and ended a big streak. I guess we can hang with the big dogs with this new lineup. This and the Laker win proved it. Lets hope we get more of these and less of those Phx/Bos games.
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
joejoejoe, how about “you’re my PG in 2010?”
by Quick Darshan on Nov 19, 2008 9:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i am eating my raw crow and it tastes real, real good.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 9:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Restructor – What? did we just see the same game? 9/5/4 and great D is not disappointing. A disappointment would be a loss.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nice, that punchsports.blogspot.com site is showing game 6 of the 1993 Bulls/Suns series. Ahhhh, that NBA theme. Music to my ears.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 9:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
One thing that’s easy to forget is this is AI’s first win in the Palace
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Quick Darshan – Hah! FPLJ!
If you add FPCB Detroit might have 4 of Team USA’s starters in London. But like Bill Simmons says, Joe Dumars is just OK as a GM.
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
haha yea garrett im watching too
same thing i was thinking about the NBA on NBC theme
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 9:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rob G – He couldn’t finish in the lane, because he was too tired from playing defense on LeBrick, just like always. We were hoping this would be an All-Star statement game for him.
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 9:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"In Detroit they used to call him my second son," Larry Brown said. "The last thing I want to do is pressure him. … But he would be perfect for this team."
Even LB is trying to make a run at him. Garnett calling him family and LB calling him his 2nd son. This is getting a little ridiculous.
by Sean W. on Nov 19, 2008 9:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather see Dyess go to LA or even gasp Boston (if he doesn’t come home to us) than the Bobcats. I mean, c’mon. Why would he go there to lose? If he can’t be a Piston, I at least want him to have a chance at a ring.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 9:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Rasheed – 21 pts, 15 boards, 0 turnovers, true shooting% – 80%
Not bad.
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 9:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
dyess’ agent told boston dont waste ur time lol… danny ainge has given up
cavs is still a possibility, but hopefully not after tonite! i see him coming back now.. when we were 0-2 post-AI i was questioning his will to return, but since then we’re 4-1… so we’ll see
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 9:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see Hollinger’s playoff odds?? He has the Lakers as a 50% chance of winning the championship. I would bet my bank account on the field winning over his Lakers.
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 9:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hoopsworld is reporting McDyess is on the verge of signing with the Bobcats…this can’t be true.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 9:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
billups and nuggets destroying the spurs. he really seems to be the “answer” for them.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 9:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hoopsworld hates the Pistons worse than ESPN.
However, it could be that they are right about Dyess signing with Larry Brown and Co.
We shall see
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 9:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t imagine Dyess signing with Charlotte. For a guy comfortable with his location that doesn’t want to move around, and is essentially still playing only for the sake of winning a ring, it just wouldn’t make sense.
by Greg on Nov 19, 2008 9:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jim,
That story has been all over the internet today. I don’t think it’s anything too serious. Pounds (head nod to Sheed) just had a good rapport with Dice.
He’ll be a Piston. He HAS to!
by TDP on Nov 19, 2008 9:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
McDyess would be out of his friggin mind to sign with the Bobcats. Come home Dice. Max misses you and wants to have your babies.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
perhaps signing Dyess in Charlotte means that Detroit can fleece MJ again and trade Amir for Dice
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 9:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Since Billups has been with Denver they have beaten only one team with a winning record, the Celtics.
Billups will break down before the end of the year.
We got the better of the deal
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 9:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
We never would have scored 55 + points in the 2nd half tonight with Billups instead of AI and we would have lost.
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think the story is blown up a bit; Charlotte’s guys said they have contacted Dice’s agent. I could contact Dice’s agent tomorrow; doesn’t mean Dice will join my rec team.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I finally broke down and bought League Pass yesterday. A big THANK YOU to the Pistons! I nearly ruing my purchase late in the 2nd quarter.
by TDP on Nov 19, 2008 9:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this is scary… bobcats are waiving players now too
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55554/20081119/bobcats_waive_brown_and_johnson/
reminds me of one philly waived players and soon afteward stole elton brand from the clips… everyone thought he’d return to the clips, same way we all think (hope) dyess returns to the pistons
let’s hope he doesn’t leave
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 9:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
sorry i meant traded, philly traded players (for nothing in return) to free up cap space… they didn’t waive em… but still… bobcats waiving players is a scary thought with this other story going around
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The only way I could accept Dice signing with Charlotte is if they w trade Wallace and Okafor for the rights to the Pistons second round pick in 2050.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 9:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’d trade:
Amir
Sheed
2nd round
for
Okafor
Dyess
1st round
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 9:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and then I’d trade Okafor for Samuel Dalembert
and then I’d trade Dalembert for Chris Kaman and Thad Young
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 9:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
and then I’d submit a commenter column telling everyone how Jason Kidd is overrated, and then reneg on my column
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 9:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You gotta believe Dyess is going to Charlotte by the way this is catching on so quickly. How many times does this have to be established:
"I don’t want to be no ring-chaser, I don’t want to be moving team to team being a ring-chaser. I can’t do that. If I have to do that, I would definitely give it up."
Dyess is going to go wherever is best for him (whatever city his new wife likes the most).
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 9:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
But Charlotte? Is that giving up, looking at a ceiling of 30 wins?
I dont understand. I am not computing.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great weather.. Near the ocean.. Quality shopping?
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 9:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
@Laughton, here in the States, W can’t go away fast enough
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Are the Stones playing Boston tomorrow?????
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 10:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Might as well watch the end of the Bucks game. Get some Bogut as I wait for news on Dice.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 10:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Founnd another related link from ESPN about Dyess. It says Dyess has talked to the Bobcats and they are holding a spot open for him if he wants to sign there, but that nothing is imminent.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 10:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Cavs still do not have a road win against a team with a winning record. LOL
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watching Bulls – Blazers. Rose is talented, but he has no idea how to run a team.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 11:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Blazers commentary sucks almost as much as the Bulls.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 11:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
good game – couldn’t watch it but followed comments and gamecast – certainly surprised to see this get solidly pulled out.
how are sheed’s numbers looking since the trade – he seems like he has improved significantly with iverson’s arrival. does iverson’s presence mean that sheed doesn’t have to be the only overly emotional person?
by piñon lopez on Nov 19, 2008 11:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
As much as it would suck to lose Dyess, I’d MUCH rather have his toughness and desire on a non-factor like Charlotte than on a contender.
by Gogol on Nov 19, 2008 11:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I missed the game as well. Perhaps that is why I am still watching Blazers and talking to myself :)
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 11:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Blazers are good. They are going to be scary for the next few years if they keep this team together.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 11:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Scott from ESPN just said that the Pistons were mad because AI has been taking to many shots. Is this true???
by Carey on Nov 19, 2008 11:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this team has really changed if anyone’s pissed about shot count. i’d need some corroboration from a legit source to back it up before i believe that lazy-eyed hack.
curry’s rotation is uncomfortably different but insanely effective. as time was dwindling in the 4th, i had to rub my eyes to make sure i wasn’t seeing things with spellcheck and stuck still on the floor and rip and tay on the bench. and he’s got his fingers on the right buttons obviously. he’s completely unafraid to stick with the hot hand at any ego’s expense. i admire that. he’s been true to his pledge thus far.
if we can get a W tomorrow in beantown….
by JackDutch on Nov 20, 2008 1:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, did the Blazers ever put a whoopin’ on the Bulls. The little I watched, the Bulls were actually playing good D but the Blazers just kept moving the ball til they got an open lane to the basket.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 20, 2008 1:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t see the game. Couple questions:
Cavs were on a back to back, did they just run out of gas?
Was Rip on the court at the end of the game? If not, I wonder how he’ll handle it.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 20, 2008 1:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Carey, AI only took 16 shots. That doesn’t seem too selfish to me.
Afflalo had a +12 +/-, in 14min.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 20, 2008 1:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
QD – Rip was not, and Tay sat most of the 4th. I’m guessing they’ll be fine – the younger players were playing extremely well, and I would hope the vets recognized that. Especially since this isn’t June…
by Rob G on Nov 20, 2008 1:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Another observation:
5-6 is good enough for 8th best in the West and only 10th best in the East. I think this might be the year where all the playoff teams have a winning record.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 20, 2008 1:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
qd-i don’t think it was an energy thing for the cavs but i could be wrong. we had some fantastic defensive plays in the 2nd half including two BRILLIANT steals by a.i. i’d like to think it was mostly due to curry and fires lit than any fatigue setting in for the cavs.
by JackDutch on Nov 20, 2008 11:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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