Pistons host Cavs
by Matt Watson on Nov 19, 2008 3:46 PM EST
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PrintWe're 10 games into the season and the Pistons have played only three games at the Palace. If that looks funny to you, there's good reason: only two other teams (Portland and Atlanta) are still waiting to play their fourth home game of the year. Fortunately things will start to even out: five of the next six games are at home, with the exception of tomorrow's re-match in Boston.
Tonight the Pistons host the Cavs, and will attempt to chip away at Cleveland's one and a half game lead in the Central. I'll be at the game, but instead of working I've been invited to the Grand Opening of the Canadian Club Terrace for some pre-game whiskey tasting and dinner, which is why you're getting such an early game thread. Blogging, it's a glamorous life, I tell you.
The ball tips at 7:30 on FSN -- leave your thoughts in the comments.
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This is off topic, but I’d really like to see MC use Amir the way Portland is using Oden. Throwing him out there, dealing with his ups and downs even if it costs a few wins, putting him in the best possibility to succeed.
by Shinons on Nov 19, 2008 4:32 PM EST reply actions
I wont be able to watch this one as I have an exam. I hope I return in time to see the end. My damn life is interfering with my Pistons again dammit!
Prediction: Detroit wins, 105 – 92
Or thats my opinion anyway.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 6:12 PM EST reply actions
Wait shinons – you mean we should be patient with a 21 year old with insane upside who every nba statistician agrees is one of the most productive players on the roster? But don’t we need to try and win every game in the regular season? And isn’t it more fun to give up on amir 5 games into the season and say that a guy who’s had one of the highest rebound rates in the nba is too soft?
Sometimes I just don’t get you.
by Forty on Nov 19, 2008 7:06 PM EST reply actions
Oh no! Justin.tv is letting me down! I’m not getting the stream! My world is crumbling.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:43 PM EST reply actions
yeah…and video feed is kinda crappy tonight…..go PISTONS!
by Primosh on Nov 19, 2008 7:46 PM EST reply actions
if sheed doesn’t miss the rest of the game, i like our odds…
by JackDutch on Nov 19, 2008 7:46 PM EST reply actions
Whew. It’s working now. I can come back in off the ledge.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:47 PM EST reply actions
Diplomacy at its finest from Special K: “I think you have to get Kwame Brown the ball when he’s READY…”
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 7:49 PM EST reply actions
“Wait shinons – you mean we should be patient with a 21 year old with insane upside who every nba statistician agrees is one of the most productive players on the roster?”
If only he could learn how to bat the ball out of bounds.
by kevin s. on Nov 19, 2008 7:50 PM EST reply actions
I hate J.A Adande
almost as much as I hate Chris Sheridan
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 7:55 PM EST reply actions
http://www.justin.tv/ballerzzz is working now (at least it is for me).
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 8:00 PM EST reply actions
That really pissed me off that Tay couldn’t put it in the hoop after that isolation.
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 8:01 PM EST reply actions
Man, LeBron is just on a whole ‘nother level. Everything he does is just pretty much better than everyone else on the court. He moves quicker, jumps higher, runs faster. Even his passes seem to be more crisp. I think I’d spontaneously combust if we got him in 2010.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 8:09 PM EST reply actions
Frustration: thy name is Amir. Awesome rebound and outlet to Rip, he ran the floor hard and got it back for a wide-open dunk. Then he comes back down and falls for a Varejao pump fake 15 feet from the basket and fouls him.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 8:12 PM EST reply actions
anyone see the thing going across the espn ticker that the bobcats are trying to sign ’Dyess?
by Satchmo on Nov 19, 2008 8:12 PM EST reply actions
there is no fluidity in the offense and the cavs seem locked on
D
maybe they are related
by wutsurbeef on Nov 19, 2008 8:17 PM EST reply actions
But……..if the game doesn’t come back on that means I have to do work! :(
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 8:22 PM EST reply actions
I can’t believe that into his 4th season the Pistons coaches still haven’t taught Amir how to draw a charge.
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 8:23 PM EST reply actions
Yeah Forty, I don’t know what I was thinking – especially when we can give 30 minutes a game to THE Kwame Brown.
by Shinons on Nov 19, 2008 8:24 PM EST reply actions
that’s the second time amir has done that
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions
Amir needs to put on like 25lbs
I’m tired of watching these offseason videos Matt Watson puts up of Amir doing things like conditioning… he needs to just sit at Fat Burger and eat
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 8:29 PM EST reply actions
we’ve committed 11 fouls.
to cleveland’s 4.
are they just playing that much better defense?
by JackDutch on Nov 19, 2008 8:29 PM EST reply actions
Ben with the airball! I think that was for us. solitary tear That one….was for us.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 8:30 PM EST reply actions
there it is, i thought for a second that air ball was going to get a pass on dbb…
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply actions
maxiell hasn’t done much this season either…
by wutsurbeef on Nov 19, 2008 8:32 PM EST reply actions
either off. or deff fourl reffs have been terrible this half
by wutsurbeef on Nov 19, 2008 8:35 PM EST reply actions
Amir needs to find some of the weight JMax lost.
Anyone here have strong feelings one way or another about Varejao? He inspires… emotions in me.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply actions
if I saw Varejao on the street, I’d call him a punk bitch to his face.
those are the feelings he inspires
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 8:40 PM EST reply actions
You guys’ feed is about 3 minutes behind… If something crazy happens at the end i’ll try to keep my mouth closed.
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions
That third foul on Amir was BS.
West jumped into him as the shot clock expired with no intent to even shoot the ball. Total baloney.
As Chick Hearn used to say.
“No Harm No Foul”
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 8:45 PM EST reply actions
i’m thinking this spring is going to be much less stressful. unless of course my new fave team the nuggets really make a play for the west.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions
I was really hoping we’d close that quarter out right. Instead, we let Mo go on a mini-run.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions
Cutting Special K loose! Giving him some minutes on the tele-strator! I like this.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions
and mcdyess should have considered a yes on that trade. and nothing would make me happier than to eat a bowl of uncooked crow but the trade is looking pretty bad right now at least for this year. sorry to be so negative.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 8:50 PM EST reply actions
At least we don’t have to listen to the Raptor’s crew. I just flipped it to their game and it’s like listening to a golf broadcast.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 8:54 PM EST reply actions
thanx garret for the working link. and yeah, agree with andy.
by detroitblue on Nov 19, 2008 8:58 PM EST reply actions
Whoa, Iverson can still get up! Nice steal by Kwame.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions
haiku
fighting our way back,
Tayshaun, the Answer can beat
FPLBJ
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:19 PM EST reply actions
Afflalo comes in for the 1st time all game and immediately drains a 3. Nice.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 9:25 PM EST reply actions
i hate the cavs more than i hate the celtics. i hate lebran and varejow
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 9:31 PM EST reply actions
You can’t stop AA, you can only hope to contain him.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 9:33 PM EST reply actions
I know Rodney Stuckey is getting trapped on the pick but I wish he get his hand up atleast even if Mo Williams is already about to shoot.
by Diablo on Nov 19, 2008 9:35 PM EST reply actions
wow i’ve never seen such an ill advised shot… and he made it!
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 9:39 PM EST reply actions
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! again
by Diablo on Nov 19, 2008 9:39 PM EST reply actions
Jesus even the radio feed is awful tonight
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 9:40 PM EST reply actions
Nice take AI.
Stuckey is running the pick and roll very well down the stretch.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 9:44 PM EST reply actions
This Iverson kid is kinda nice you know…
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 9:44 PM EST reply actions
more haiku
Afflalo, bench secret
no more! Bangin’ tramps, playing D
on Lebron. Snowflake?
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:45 PM EST reply actions
The Pistons won’t make it out of the first round of the playoffs this year.
Regards,
Prophecy_Projekts
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 9:48 PM EST reply actions
Jesus, Sheed I know you could shoot 3s but when did you become so deadly accurate?
by Diablo on Nov 19, 2008 9:50 PM EST reply actions
That’s just wrong. Rasheed looks a cross between Wilt and Steve Kerr out there.
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 9:50 PM EST reply actions
I really like that Curry stuck with this line-up down the stretch.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 PM EST reply actions
Sheed must have been talking to Charles Barkley these last few days… Rasheed Wallace can be a top three player in this league!
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 PM EST reply actions
Damn we have some scorers on this team. I think they play defense, too.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:51 PM EST reply actions
@Joejoejoe
If you mean he’s sleeping with a lotta hoes and dismantling exciting teams….maybe.
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 9:52 PM EST reply actions
we’re making a habit outta ruining teams’ winning streaks… first LA now Cleveland
i like that
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 9:52 PM EST reply actions
PP – you make so many negative comments, but I gotta do it
+1
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:53 PM EST reply actions
lol@ Iverson dribbling around there like he’s 12.
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 9:55 PM EST reply actions
Cleveland took way too many 3 balls. We must have defended pretty well.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 9:58 PM EST reply actions
Don’t call it a comeback, we’ve been here for years!
by Q Dog on Nov 19, 2008 9:59 PM EST reply actions
I like how Stuckey gets the chest bump from LeBron. It’s like “you’re my PG in London 2012, right?”.
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 9:59 PM EST reply actions
We won the battle for McDyess!
Great win. Great second half…outscored them 58-40.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 9:59 PM EST reply actions
This was a very good win, real confidence booster against basically the conference favourites. Especially considering the boys came from behind (pause) and ended a big streak. I guess we can hang with the big dogs with this new lineup. This and the Laker win proved it. Lets hope we get more of these and less of those Phx/Bos games.
by prophecy_projectz on Nov 19, 2008 10:00 PM EST reply actions
joejoejoe, how about “you’re my PG in 2010?”
by Quick Darshan on Nov 19, 2008 10:00 PM EST reply actions
i am eating my raw crow and it tastes real, real good.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions
Restructor – What? did we just see the same game? 9/5/4 and great D is not disappointing. A disappointment would be a loss.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions
Nice, that punchsports.blogspot.com site is showing game 6 of the 1993 Bulls/Suns series. Ahhhh, that NBA theme. Music to my ears.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 10:02 PM EST reply actions
One thing that’s easy to forget is this is AI’s first win in the Palace
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 10:03 PM EST reply actions
Quick Darshan – Hah! FPLJ!
If you add FPCB Detroit might have 4 of Team USA’s starters in London. But like Bill Simmons says, Joe Dumars is just OK as a GM.
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 10:04 PM EST reply actions
haha yea garrett im watching too
same thing i was thinking about the NBA on NBC theme
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 10:04 PM EST reply actions
Rob G – He couldn’t finish in the lane, because he was too tired from playing defense on LeBrick, just like always. We were hoping this would be an All-Star statement game for him.
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 10:06 PM EST reply actions
"In Detroit they used to call him my second son," Larry Brown said. "The last thing I want to do is pressure him. … But he would be perfect for this team."
Even LB is trying to make a run at him. Garnett calling him family and LB calling him his 2nd son. This is getting a little ridiculous.
by Sean W. on Nov 19, 2008 10:07 PM EST reply actions
I’d rather see Dyess go to LA or even gasp Boston (if he doesn’t come home to us) than the Bobcats. I mean, c’mon. Why would he go there to lose? If he can’t be a Piston, I at least want him to have a chance at a ring.
by Garrett on Nov 19, 2008 10:10 PM EST reply actions
Rasheed – 21 pts, 15 boards, 0 turnovers, true shooting% – 80%
Not bad.
by joejoejoe on Nov 19, 2008 10:12 PM EST reply actions
dyess’ agent told boston dont waste ur time lol… danny ainge has given up
cavs is still a possibility, but hopefully not after tonite! i see him coming back now.. when we were 0-2 post-AI i was questioning his will to return, but since then we’re 4-1… so we’ll see
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions
Did anyone see Hollinger’s playoff odds?? He has the Lakers as a 50% chance of winning the championship. I would bet my bank account on the field winning over his Lakers.
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions
Hoopsworld is reporting McDyess is on the verge of signing with the Bobcats…this can’t be true.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 10:23 PM EST reply actions
billups and nuggets destroying the spurs. he really seems to be the “answer” for them.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 19, 2008 10:26 PM EST reply actions
Hoopsworld hates the Pistons worse than ESPN.
However, it could be that they are right about Dyess signing with Larry Brown and Co.
We shall see
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 10:30 PM EST reply actions
I can’t imagine Dyess signing with Charlotte. For a guy comfortable with his location that doesn’t want to move around, and is essentially still playing only for the sake of winning a ring, it just wouldn’t make sense.
by Greg on Nov 19, 2008 10:32 PM EST reply actions
Jim,
That story has been all over the internet today. I don’t think it’s anything too serious. Pounds (head nod to Sheed) just had a good rapport with Dice.
He’ll be a Piston. He HAS to!
by TDP on Nov 19, 2008 10:32 PM EST reply actions
McDyess would be out of his friggin mind to sign with the Bobcats. Come home Dice. Max misses you and wants to have your babies.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 10:34 PM EST reply actions
perhaps signing Dyess in Charlotte means that Detroit can fleece MJ again and trade Amir for Dice
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 10:34 PM EST reply actions
Since Billups has been with Denver they have beaten only one team with a winning record, the Celtics.
Billups will break down before the end of the year.
We got the better of the deal
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 10:35 PM EST reply actions
We never would have scored 55 + points in the 2nd half tonight with Billups instead of AI and we would have lost.
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions
I think the story is blown up a bit; Charlotte’s guys said they have contacted Dice’s agent. I could contact Dice’s agent tomorrow; doesn’t mean Dice will join my rec team.
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions
I finally broke down and bought League Pass yesterday. A big THANK YOU to the Pistons! I nearly ruing my purchase late in the 2nd quarter.
by TDP on Nov 19, 2008 10:38 PM EST reply actions
this is scary… bobcats are waiving players now too
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55554/20081119/bobcats_waive_brown_and_johnson/
reminds me of one philly waived players and soon afteward stole elton brand from the clips… everyone thought he’d return to the clips, same way we all think (hope) dyess returns to the pistons
let’s hope he doesn’t leave
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 10:41 PM EST reply actions
sorry i meant traded, philly traded players (for nothing in return) to free up cap space… they didn’t waive em… but still… bobcats waiving players is a scary thought with this other story going around
by Mannie32 on Nov 19, 2008 10:42 PM EST reply actions
The only way I could accept Dice signing with Charlotte is if they w trade Wallace and Okafor for the rights to the Pistons second round pick in 2050.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 10:42 PM EST reply actions
I’d trade:
Amir
Sheed
2nd round
for
Okafor
Dyess
1st round
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 10:44 PM EST reply actions
and then I’d trade Okafor for Samuel Dalembert
and then I’d trade Dalembert for Chris Kaman and Thad Young
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 10:44 PM EST reply actions
and then I’d submit a commenter column telling everyone how Jason Kidd is overrated, and then reneg on my column
by Boney on Nov 19, 2008 10:45 PM EST reply actions
You gotta believe Dyess is going to Charlotte by the way this is catching on so quickly. How many times does this have to be established:
"I don’t want to be no ring-chaser, I don’t want to be moving team to team being a ring-chaser. I can’t do that. If I have to do that, I would definitely give it up."
Dyess is going to go wherever is best for him (whatever city his new wife likes the most).
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 10:50 PM EST reply actions
But Charlotte? Is that giving up, looking at a ceiling of 30 wins?
I dont understand. I am not computing.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 10:53 PM EST reply actions
Great weather.. Near the ocean.. Quality shopping?
by Restructer_It on Nov 19, 2008 10:57 PM EST reply actions
@Laughton, here in the States, W can’t go away fast enough
by Rob G on Nov 19, 2008 10:58 PM EST reply actions
Might as well watch the end of the Bucks game. Get some Bogut as I wait for news on Dice.
by Laughton on Nov 19, 2008 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Founnd another related link from ESPN about Dyess. It says Dyess has talked to the Bobcats and they are holding a spot open for him if he wants to sign there, but that nothing is imminent.
by Jim on Nov 19, 2008 11:18 PM EST reply actions
The Cavs still do not have a road win against a team with a winning record. LOL
by Mike on Nov 19, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions
Watching Bulls – Blazers. Rose is talented, but he has no idea how to run a team.
by Laughton on Nov 20, 2008 12:09 AM EST reply actions
Blazers commentary sucks almost as much as the Bulls.
by Laughton on Nov 20, 2008 12:13 AM EST reply actions
good game – couldn’t watch it but followed comments and gamecast – certainly surprised to see this get solidly pulled out.
how are sheed’s numbers looking since the trade – he seems like he has improved significantly with iverson’s arrival. does iverson’s presence mean that sheed doesn’t have to be the only overly emotional person?
by piñon lopez on Nov 20, 2008 12:14 AM EST reply actions
As much as it would suck to lose Dyess, I’d MUCH rather have his toughness and desire on a non-factor like Charlotte than on a contender.
by Gogol on Nov 20, 2008 12:17 AM EST reply actions
I missed the game as well. Perhaps that is why I am still watching Blazers and talking to myself :)
by Laughton on Nov 20, 2008 12:18 AM EST reply actions
Blazers are good. They are going to be scary for the next few years if they keep this team together.
by Laughton on Nov 20, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions
Scott from ESPN just said that the Pistons were mad because AI has been taking to many shots. Is this true???
by Carey on Nov 20, 2008 12:43 AM EST reply actions
this team has really changed if anyone’s pissed about shot count. i’d need some corroboration from a legit source to back it up before i believe that lazy-eyed hack.
curry’s rotation is uncomfortably different but insanely effective. as time was dwindling in the 4th, i had to rub my eyes to make sure i wasn’t seeing things with spellcheck and stuck still on the floor and rip and tay on the bench. and he’s got his fingers on the right buttons obviously. he’s completely unafraid to stick with the hot hand at any ego’s expense. i admire that. he’s been true to his pledge thus far.
if we can get a W tomorrow in beantown….
by JackDutch on Nov 20, 2008 2:07 AM EST reply actions
Wow, did the Blazers ever put a whoopin’ on the Bulls. The little I watched, the Bulls were actually playing good D but the Blazers just kept moving the ball til they got an open lane to the basket.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 20, 2008 2:11 AM EST reply actions
Didn’t see the game. Couple questions:
Cavs were on a back to back, did they just run out of gas?
Was Rip on the court at the end of the game? If not, I wonder how he’ll handle it.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 20, 2008 2:12 AM EST reply actions
Carey, AI only took 16 shots. That doesn’t seem too selfish to me.
Afflalo had a +12 +/-, in 14min.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 20, 2008 2:17 AM EST reply actions
QD – Rip was not, and Tay sat most of the 4th. I’m guessing they’ll be fine – the younger players were playing extremely well, and I would hope the vets recognized that. Especially since this isn’t June…
by Rob G on Nov 20, 2008 2:29 AM EST reply actions
Another observation:
5-6 is good enough for 8th best in the West and only 10th best in the East. I think this might be the year where all the playoff teams have a winning record.
by Quick Darshan on Nov 20, 2008 2:44 AM EST reply actions
qd-i don’t think it was an energy thing for the cavs but i could be wrong. we had some fantastic defensive plays in the 2nd half including two BRILLIANT steals by a.i. i’d like to think it was mostly due to curry and fires lit than any fatigue setting in for the cavs.
by JackDutch on Nov 20, 2008 12:01 PM EST reply actions
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