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Whither McDyess?

As we all know, there's been a lot of speculation about Antonio McDyess' status with the Nuggets. Officially, Nuggets VP Rex Chapman has said that McDyess won't be bought out, but a report surfaced yesterday saying discussions were in fact taking place. Why the conflicting reports? Chris Tomasson of the Rocky Mountain News explains:

Before the Jason Kidd deal was finalized last February, Dallas forward Jerry Stackhouse sounded off about planning to be waived by New Jersey after the deal was done and returning 30 days later to the Mavericks, which is the rule for players to return under such circumstances. Eventually, with the NBA looking on closely, the trade was made without Stackhouse.

San Antonio played it close to the vest last season when trading Brent Barry to Seattle, which then waived him. Barry and the Spurs made it seem like he was looking around at various teams before he returned to San Antonio after the 30-day waiting period.

A source close to the situation said the Nuggets would like McDyess to play for them, but there's a good chance he will be bought out.

"I'm not denying it's circulating (McDyess could be waived), but I don't have any direct knowledge,'' said Nuggets coach George Karl.

The trade is official, Allen Iverson has been introduced and Michael Curry has confirmed that AI will start tonight's game in Toronto. So why are we still waiting to find out what will happen with McDyess? Because there's still the little matter of dividing up a few million dollars. McDyess is owed $13.6 million over this season and next, and he's not eager to give any of it up:

The Nuggets ideally would like a buyout of less than $10 million total. The Nuggets, who on Monday trimmed their payroll from about $77 million to about $74 million, hope to get it down to a level just above the luxury-tax threshold of $71.15 million.

McDyess' side, meanwhile, doesn't want to lose money overall. He would recoup at least the prorated minimum salary of $1.26 million if he re-signs with Detroit, which he can't do until 30 days after being waived.

Let's assume for a moment that McDyess and the Nuggets figure it out and McDyess hits the open market. Is it a foregone conclusion that he heads to the beach for a month before re-signing with the Pistons? Only he knows for sure, but Detroit's rivals will do their best to change his mind. From the Boston Herald:

According to a league source, the Celtics would be especially interested in bringing in the veteran power forward. The C’s initially attempted to sign McDyess in 2004. He instead chose to sign with the Pistons, who at the time were opening defense of a world championship.

Most observers expect McDyess to return to Detroit after the league’s mandatory 30-day waiting period. But McDyess, reportedly upset by the trade, can expect to hear from the Celtics if a buyout does indeed go through.

I'd like to think the Pistons have the edge, but then again, why should he show loyalty when it wasn't reciprocated earlier this week? Even if Dumars and Co. had a hunch he'd return all along, the buyout still might end up costing him a few million. (Then again, it's not like he and Kevin Garnett exchange Christmas cards, either.)

Even if it's not the Celtics, though, I have to imagine any number of teams (the Lakers have the full mid-level) might show interest. In fact, if he really wants to get a title, he could sit back for longer than 30 days while waiting to see which of the contenders seem to have the most momentum.

Maybe, but I just don't see it happening. I mentioned this on FanHouse on Monday, but in the aftermath of being ousted from the Conference Finals by the Celtics last year, I watched McDyess fight back tears while telling reporters that he'd rather retire than attempting any shortcuts to a title.

"I don't want to be no ring-chaser, I don't want to be moving team to team being a ring-chaser. I can't do that. If I have to do that, I would definitely give it up. I mean, if I stay on this team another couple of years, we still have a chance, we just got to put our heart into it and do it."

The irony of all of this was that just minutes prior to hearing McDyess lay out his heart, I was in the visitor's locker room speaking to P.J. Brown, who came out of pseudo-retirement in early February, and Sam Cassell, who forced a buyout from the Clippers in early March. Sure, they got a ring just like everybody else on Boston's roster, but they hitched their fortunes to Boston's star so late the bandwagon had a bandwagon. As badly as McDyess wants a title, I get the feeling he's determined to do it the old fashioned way.

Or not -- who knows? Perhaps priorities shift after being treated less like an integral piece of the solution and more like chattel whose sole value is to make a trade for a more important player work. Only time will tell. With any luck, he'll be an early Christmas gift for Pistons fans, re-joining the team several weeks from now, but no matter what happens, I'll be rooting for him, no matter what jersey he ends up wearing.

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I don’t want any Christmas gifts this year…just bring back Antonio and I’ll be a happy man.

by Primosh on Nov 5, 2008 6:00 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I hope Dice comes back. If he goes to Boston then thats just like Anakin going to the dark side isn’t it?

by Laughton on Nov 5, 2008 7:05 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

great summary and rundown, thanks for laying it out like that

I assume you’ll have to track this over the next month or so and ultimately he’ll be back in red, white, and blue

by Jeff (CelticsBlog) on Nov 5, 2008 7:22 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

@Primosh I’m willing to give up on my hanuka gift

If he goes over to boston than we brought it on ourselves. The really sad thing will be if he does and they end up kicking us out of the ECF again…

by ohad on Nov 5, 2008 8:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

If dice goes over to Boston we wont be friends anymore.

by Jason on Nov 5, 2008 8:55 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

“Chattel”? Gee, let’s break out the violins and Abe Lincoln pictures for Dice while we’re indulging in such bleeding-heart nonsense.

I want Dice back as much as anybody. But sniping remarks about the Pistons’ lack of loyalty won’t cut it. The Pistons picked Antonio up when he was left for dead, and re-upped him generously — at a time when even the midlevel exception was becoming less available to veterans. He’s been traded several times before, and so has Chauncey.

In many ways, the reaction to this trade has been more telling than the players themselves. The Pistons’ complacency showed in the shock they displayed when Joe actually did what he said he’d do — and it appears some fans needed the jolt as well. It’s a business. And few of us get a ring awarded to us for years of good work.

by LanierFan on Nov 5, 2008 11:07 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Spot on, LanierFan

by Craig on Nov 5, 2008 11:17 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

The more I think about it, the more I think Dice knows exactly what the score is. Joe D openly told him last year that he would not be traded. Chauncey told Joe that if he was traded, he wanted to go to Denver. What would you bet that Joe D told Dice that he was going to work this deal out so Dice could come back? I don’t get the sense that Joe just trades people without talking to them about it. Don’t get me wrong; Joe is the boss, but he has worked these deals (trading Grant Hill, for example) so the player gets what he wants and Joe gets what he wants. I’ll bet that Dice knew how this would most likely play out, and he will re-sign with the D after negotiating a buyout…

by Rob G on Nov 5, 2008 12:54 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I want Dice in Denver again, along with Chauncey! He has always struck me as a very feeling person – very attached to the people who treat him right, which Detroit obviously did in his years there. I always watched the Pistons every chance I got just to see him play – even after his injuries he was still a very impressive player – would just LOVE to see him helping out on defense here in Denver, with perhaps one or 2 of the old leaps thrown in!

by Sue on Nov 5, 2008 3:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Considering that Dice was the Piston I most admired from the 08 team that fell to Boston in the ECF, I’d love to see him on the Cs if he gets bought out. Matt you make a great point about Dice’s comments after the bitter Game 6 loss to Boston, but I’m hoping his mind might have been changed by the Pistons shipping him out of town, after all the loyalty he has shown to them.

If Dice does end up in Boston, they are going to be almost impossible to beat. The shooting prowess of the Big 3 leaves a lot of open jumpers for the other big, and PJ had way too much rust (and miles) on him to take advantage of it last year (except fot that last minute 18 footer against the Cavs in Game 7).

The way Dice shoots the ball, look out. BYW, Dice played for Ainge in Phoenix in 98, and did well enough to grab a huge FA contract from Denver.

by TripleOT on Nov 5, 2008 5:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i just hope he comes back as a piston!

by C4life on Nov 5, 2008 7:20 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Look, we’re talking about the guy who is probably head and shoulders the smartest GM in the league right now.

Physical got waived because Dice ain’t going to play one second for the Nuggets. It also doesn’t look like they’re too heartbroken over this development, either.

There are only two logical places for him to go-Lakers (who have most of their MLE available, and are title contenders)and Pistons. The buyout is probably forthcoming, and he’ll be back in a DP uni 30 days afterwardsm or a Lakers one next week.

by V on Nov 6, 2008 1:27 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

On the loyalty issue:

Dice’s career was OVER. OVER. Who gambled on his porcelain knees and gave him a bunch of money to join a contender? Who resurrected his career and turned him into a perrennial sixth man candidate?

Dice owes the entire second half of his career to Joe D’s Balls of Steel. No other GM would’ve given him the chance and put that much faith in the guy. So don’t pull out that bullshit arguement, “If I were Dice, I’d leave too, since he gave his all for the Pistons and they showed him no loyalty.”

The only reason Dice EXISTS in the league right now is because of the Pistons’ unshakeable loyalty.

by Joel on Nov 6, 2008 9:43 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

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