Thank God!!
Save them please…

Antonio please push this bloated whale back into the ocean so that it may swim freely. It would seem that it has beached itself in your absence.

Hopefully he’ll bring some of the stability that this team sorely needs. He’s become my favorite Piston in his tenure here, the guy who was never affected by the team’s malaise and at times seemed to be the only one who cared about our losses. We owe this guy better than our recent mediocre play.

At what point do we place the blame for our pathetic start at our new “coach”? I think it’s time.

FIRE CURRY. Let’s get Avery Johnson and once again become the defense-first blue-collar team that Detroit loves so much.

Hopefully McDyess comes back and gives everyone a piece of his mind about our inconsistent play. He doesn’t speak out much, but everyone listens when he does.

Switch Stuckey for Brown in the starters? Start three guards, a center who won’t play in the paint on offense and a thin (albeit lovable) SF? Put me in the “thinks it’s a horrible idea” camp.

But I sincerely welcome back McDyess. A good guy and a good player will have to have some good effect, right?

We should see a different Sheed after Dice is back. In the game against NY, all the shots Sheed took were short – a sign of weak legs. He’s playing too many minutes. You toss Dice into the minutes pool, you get a stronger Sheed, and stronger Sheed will hit those exasperating tramps. We love ‘em when they go down and hate them when they don’t…

Ehhhh… I’m not feeling the three-guard lineup, but I’ll wait and watch like everyone else. I also found Curry’s comments about finding more minutes for Herrmann weird, because there have been plenty of games where Herrmann didn’t play at all. So if you want more minutes for the guy, why not just play him?

Here is what I’d like to see with the line-up change with data from 82games.com. Let’s start Stuckey/Rip/Tay/Sheed/Amir (+16 in 41 minutes) with a second unit of AI/Afflalo/Herrmann/Maxy/Dice (We are +30 in only 44 minutes when AI/Afflalo/Herrmann are on the floor together). There will be overlapping of the line-ups, but lets maximize AI’s time with that second unit which allows him to play at a quicker pace and dominate the ball more. Hopefully that can boost his confidence and allow him to play better when he’s with more of the starters. What’s scary is that when AI/Rip share the court we are -56 in 246 minutes.

Yay Dice is back! :)

Boo on (possible) new starting five. Maybe it’s because Michael Curry was an under-sized player, so he isn’t fully aware of the disadvantages of playing an undersized line-up, but if you go through the proposed change, it makes no sense.

PG:Stuck- big for position
SG: AI- very very small, will be posted up over and over
SF: Rip- height is okay, but thin and will get posted by some SF’s
PF: Tay- we’ll have advantage on Off, but will struggle rebounding/defending against good PF’s
C: Sheed- Doesn’t have the mentality or rebound enough to make sense as the only big in line-up

So we would be under-sized at 4/5 positions, probably not sustainable.

That this is Curry’s solution is frankly a little silly. I definitely am no fan of Kwame Brown, but to identify him as “the problem” is kinda dumb. Starting him was dumb in the first place. Expecting it to work was slightly dumber. Blaming Kwame when he’s provided pretty much what should have been expected from him is very dumb.

curry seems to be ignoring the results of various lineups. his team is mentally un prepared. ….i’ll take the flip saunders rodney dangerfield collar tugging impressions in exchange for some wins.
    the team needs to realise that it must compete at full tilt the whole game. this why i don’t fault ai. at least he brings the energy. sadly it is sheed who is the problem. i saw it at the garden. the difference when he is focused. if it is because he is tired that spread the minutes and at least grow amir. if you are going to lose anyhow…but now that dyess is back. no half assed minutes for sheed allowed.

I agree 100% with Gabe, and would only add the point that Jim made: playing Rip and AI together itself has been a disaster so far. I’m not suggesting that convincing one or the other to come off the bench would be easy in the real world, but if they can’t mesh together, something has to be done if Detroit is to succeed.

I agree with Gabe. Stuckey for Brown is not a long term solution. I think the players needs to be rotated better.

Dont let Rip and Iverson play together in the 2nd or 3rd quarter, that way each one is the focal perimeter player.

By the time the 4th Q comes around, we will be up 10 points and then its Afflalo time!

when the team came out for the second half the focus and intensity was clear. being at the game i could really see it. sheed is a great defender when he is tuned in. this is what all of his minutes on the floor should look like or… he should not be on the floor. to his credit curry did bench him for the second quarter. but i had called for the substitution timeout from up in the mezzanine before the deficit was ten.

the point is sheed should not be tiring himself out playing half assed minutes when their is a amir johnson to develop on the bench. curry needs to stop tiptoeing around the big egos.

Curry hates Fabio. I don’t know why, but he does. It has taken him this long to just say ok maybe I should give him more minutes since he’s been playing great basketball since training camp. I think he’d work great in the starting lineup. It’s a way to make sure he gets minutes and isn’t forgot about. He plays great defense, hustles, moves the ball, scores from the outside, and can create his own shot. All of this while playing primarily with the second unit, so playing with the starters he should do those things better (scary). Since Dice is back, we finally have a big who can hit the outside shot, so we don’t need Herrmann to come off the bench for a scoring punch as much anymore.

Fact is we used to be able to cruise through games like yesterday when not playing 100% hard, but now if we dont we get beaten plain and simple. These dudes have to realzue they need to play hard all game, plain and simple.

No matter if Rip or AI start they have to find a way to play together anyway. If they each average 32 minutes a game, they would have to play 20 minutes together, over half the time they’re on the court. If they average 32 minutes each, they would have to play together for half the time they are on the court.

Their MPG will more likely be around 34 so for 20 minutes they’re playing together. So lets say 8 of those minutes come at the end of the game, then they can overlap the last 12 minutes throughout the game. If each of them were on the bench four different times, then every time one came in he would play only three minutes with the other together. Therefore, we could start Rip, bring AI and they play three minutes together, then bench Rip and AI can take over. This would happen four times over the game, with the roles reversed each time.

Did Curry actually SAY he was going to go with the small ball lineup or is that just conjecture? The A. Sherrod Blakely article I read made it sound like Blakely was guessing at what the change would be.

My guess is that Amir will go back into the starting lineup to inject more energy.

Jim’s suggestion makes a lot of sense. The only thing I’d add is that Max and Amir seem to play very well together at times.

I think Dyess is return is going to have a huge impact:

- Sheed will get less minutes. One reason Curry had for Sheed not going down low as much is that he was playing more minutes. Curry’s point was that he couldn’t expect Sheed to bang down low AND be the anchor of the defense while playing big minutes.

- There will be more stability to the rotations. Now, Curry will just have to figure out which young big to pair with these guys.

- There will be (hopefully healthy) competition among Rip, Tay, AI and Stuckey to be on the floor with Sheed and Dyess at the end of the game.

AI-Afflalo-Rip-Tay-Sheed works OK (+11 in 38 minutes) as a smallball lineup. Twelve minutes of that in the first 3 Q and then Rip and AI split the rest of the minutes and that’s 30 mpg each for our SGs Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Practice.

As far as I can tell (I wasn’t in NY, obviously), it’s conjecture. But considering Curry used that lineup to open the second half, praised it after the game and scoffed at my notion of putting AI to the bench, there’s a good chance that’s what he meant.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if Afflalo or Herrmann were bumped into the lineup instead.

bench AI

his defence sucks balls

and this is still a defensive minded ballclub

Flip Saunders still cackling in his leather chair. Probably not even twitching anymore since the pressure is off him.

I’m not so sure why Curry thought that unit that played 11:40 of the 3rd yesterday was so magical. They were 2, starting down 22. That’s not exactly setting the world on fire. Yeah, they got it down to 15 (7) for a while, but then they failed one of the basic Flip Saunders litmus tests and didn’t close the quarter.

Are we going to discuss Amir’s 3 shooting fouls in 5 minutes yesterday or keep giving him passes? Beyond committing all shooting fouls, specifically that and-1 he gave to Tim Thomas early in the 2nd was a JV play. No excuse. Is there a stat somewhere that shows how many and-1s he gives up and subsequently how many extra points he costs our team?

Also in the news, Randy Wittman gone in Minnesota. As OJ Mayo makes his case for RotY in a crowded field, Kevin McHale still has that job, and in fact now he has two jobs. He now has Wittman’s old one. Incredible. The people of Minneapolis should be able to recall Glen Taylor as owner.

Wow. McHale as coach? That ought to go well. The Wolves have a good, young nucleus. Whoever their coach is, if they learn to play some defense, they could turn into something.

So much for that “the team respects Curry” crap. This team hasn’t gone out and played 3 decent games in a row the whole season. It’s the coach’s job to get guys prepared or have a game plan. I didn’t see that yesterday. We walked thru the first half and didn’t give a crap. Plain and simple, if you’re not producing you sit. This was Curry’s motto from the beginning. I know guys will have up and down games, but if you’re not stopping your man from scoring (Bron/Kobe types excepted) or playing decent D, then you sit. I’m tired of listening about how tired Sheed is. Except for perhaps back-to-back or 3 in 4 nites, he’s suppose to be a professional athlete…and in shape. Hell, he runs from the D end to the 3 point line, what’s that, 35 feet?

The whole last month we’ve all been saying, wait until Dyess gets back. Joe D should be be on his knees thanking the good Lord that Dyess even wants to come back after watching this cluster-screw team effort the last 30 days. It’s now time for these players to put up or shut up. The whole idea of “we’ll be fine” when Dyess gets back takes the onus off the pistons under-achieving themselves and taking the blame. Dyess has nothing to do with these losses and shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence. It’s an insult to Dyess. Same old – Same old. “We lost that game, but would have won had we had Dyess.” For crying out loud, man up.

Bring AI off the bench. If he wants a ring as bad as he says, he’ll deal with it. If not, then he’s all talk, problem solved. Hell, what could be better than not only winning your first ring but also your first 6th man of the year award. Remember, AI has to fit to the Pistons, not the other way around.

And for God’s sake, can we practice some pick-n-roll defense this week? Going by yesterday’s game, Duhon and Lee are first ballot HOF’s.

Finally, I’m tired of that Sunday game crap. HINT: I just peeked, we play 4 Sundays in March against the Celts, Grizz, Heat & Sixers. Is that enough heads up so you can be ready to come out and play?

Hoopsworld reporting that Suns sources say that there’s no truth to Amare trade rumors. I wouldn’t say that’s nailing the coffin shut, since we’ve seen first-hand that where there’s smoke, there’s often fire.

@LB – Remember how the other day you said that the Amir Hysteria turned you off to him? The nit-picking is equally annoying. Honestly, what aspect of his game has been more/less than was expected of him?

And by any measure, he has thoroughly outplayed your boy Kwame – he’s been more effective rebounding, on the offensive glass, protecting the rim, offensively (which includes scoring, turnovers, shooting %). So he gives up some and ones. Yeah that sucks. But your boy Kwame costs us exactly 1.2 points per game with his crappy free throw shooting if you want to get nitpicky.

Mark – Tay said, yesterday, that the absence of Antonio McDyess was not a factor in why they lost that game. I think the organization knows that, right now, their problems run a lot deeper than that.

Plus, I think it’s time we begin to face it: Rasheed is getting old. His legs are gone, and when you’re primarily a jump-shooter, with tired legs, shots simply aren’t going to fall as easily as they once did. I’m not making excuses for him, I just think that’s the case.

Shinons: At least Kwame is getting the opposing bigs in foul trouble, which is something Amir doesn’t do. We need a win so we can stop bickering and all break out some nice, smooth Canadian Club whiskey!

Keegan, agreed. But unless Dyess has a 20+ point 1st-half in him, what else could Tay or anyone else say. I’ve been reading where this player says this or that or specifically Curry says we need Dyess for the second unit in scoring, how we’re going to reduce Sheed’s minutes, etc, as though covering his butt because of these losses. Hell, put Dyess in and bring Sheed off the bench. The minutes will work themselves out. We’ve had 15 games for the AI experiment and I’ll give it another 15 when Dyess gets back. If it’s not fixed by then, time for Joe to start making calls instead of waiting to take them…and fast.

My biggest complaint is the effort. Curry was suppose to fix that, and if it’s not getting fixed then he’s to blame. And as for AI’s effort, just because you’re moving fast and jacking up shots doesn’t mean you’ve got effort. It just means you’re moving fast and jacking up shots. How the hell does Duhon go off for 25? How in the world do we give up 29 in the first and then freakin’ 36 in the second? WTF? Screw egos. Guys need to be held accountable and that starts with Curry. The season is a quarter done. I’d rather lose watching Affalo & Hermann type guys play (i.e., some call offensively challenged) busting their humps than watch that crap yesterday.

Time to dump Sheed. We’ve been covering his a$$ for the last 3 years regarding attitude, effort, tech’s, etc. We’d be stupid to re-sign him next summer unless things change drastically and if they haven’t changed drastically in the past 36 months, they aren’t changing.

PICK UP THE @$##% PHONE JOE!!!!

can we fire curry yet? how about choosing the coach from the posters on this post

Garrett: Thank you leather jacket brother. We don’t need to free Amir, we need to honestly evaluate Amir.

Shinons: Of course the nit-picking is annoying. If I shut up will you stop giving him all these free passes? I’d love that trade off.

Yep, Amir had four fouls. He sucks. He should never play. He’s the worst player on the team. If it weren’t for his 3 and1’s, that cost the team a total of 2 points, while attempting to block shots, the Pistons would have won. They never would have trailed by 30. The Knicks never would have had a barrage of wide open 3’s. The Pistons would have executed their man defense to perfection. But instead, because Amir (in what is practically his rookie season) is the only one that even attempts to guard the interior picked up some fouls. Amir has an outrageous 3.2 fouls a game this year. Over three fouls a game. Of course Stuckey picks up 2.8/game, slightly less than Amir, in only five more minutes. There’s also the fact that over half of Stuckey’s are offensive fouls that don’t just cost the team an extra free throw but an entire possession. But let’s stick with Amir fouls a lot. Amir sucks. That’s the ticket.

I think this is the first time I remember seeing a consensus on a Piston issue – with the opposition to the small ball lineup. Speculation or not, I don’t ever see Iverson going to the bench. I don’t think there is any precedent for a move like that. I mean the Lakers kept Gary Payton as their starter and had Fisher come off the bench although it was clear the team was better with Fisher on the court. All-Stars don’t get benched. But who wouldn’t want to see Prince guard either KG or Perkins. It’d be hilarious.

In a practical world: The only lineup change I really would like is Maxiel starting over Brown. Maxiel to me is the guy that has been lost in the shuffle this season. He’s playing 5 less minutes a game although he’s looked pretty good. Changing the lineup seems to be entirely motivated by putting a PG in place so Rip plays better. That just seems bizarre. In the NY game the first several possessions they were running Rip’s play where he curls, catches and shoots and the shot wasn’t dropping. Iverson is passing him the ball. Rip’s not making the shots. To put that on Iverson is ridiculous. If Rip’s game is so particular that he has to receive the pass at some precise moment he has to be the least appealing NBA player.

In my world: My starting lineup would be Prince-Iverson-Afflalo-McDyess-Amir. If Prince was strictly a point-forward I think he would be excellent at running the show – the problem has been that he’ll do it for one stretch of time and then after a timeout he might be playing the 4. If that was his permanent role I think it would be a huge advantage for us – on both sides of the ball. Afflao would guard the other teams best player – and can hit the open 3 and drive to the hoop to keep them honest. The offense would revolve around Iverson and McDyess would be on the floor to provide spacing. Then the second unit would have a lot of scoring in Stuckey-Hamilton-Herrmann-Sheed-Maxiel. I think Stuckey would be under control with Hamilton and Sheed on the floor-and wouldn’t try to do too much. That way the second unit has a slasher, a jump shooter, a 3-point threat and an interior threat. Both lineups would have offensive balance – and would rotate around the right people. Kwame and Bynum should only play in very particular instances.

Those are two nice lineups, Juicebox! It’s funny when I read them in text I think, “Damn, we’ve got some good players!” and yet it isn’t translating on the court for whatever reason. I wonder if Bynum is busting up Iverson in practice? If Chris Duhon can do it…………

@Juicebox: Good post. That would be a nice starting line-up. I don’t think Curry would ever in a million years go in that direction, but it would be nice.

@People who are criticizing Amir: Check 82games.com, he has the second highest (Afflalo is first) net +/- on the team. It’s not always pretty. Sometimes he does something that makes you scratch your head or yell at the TV. But he is already an effective player. To be an effective NBA player at age 21 isn’t something to be scoffed at. There’s still huge holes in his game and he’s inexperienced, but the fact is we’ve been a much better team with him (weaknesses and all), on the court.

If you want to criticize someone—-> Look at Rasheed’s individual numbers on 82games.com. For all the talk of how we need him on the court at all times as a “shooting” big, we score more points per 100 possessions with him OFF the court. Some of that is from playing smallball, but our defense per 100 Poss. is almost exactly the same with him on or off the court, so most of the problem is that Rasheed has actually been hurting our offense, relative to his back-ups.

According to mlive.com, we’re starting Stuckey, Iverson, Rip, Tayshaun and Sheed on Tuesday against the Wizards! I am baffled. Eventually Curry is going to have to tell AI to come off the bench. This isn’t a long term solution. I guess he is just delaying the inevitable. AI said that he would carry any assignment out to the fullest. Curry should just tell him to come off the bench now instead of making Tayshaun suffer by playing power forward.

And it’s official: Stuckey is starting in place of Kwame.

The unfortunate part is that the lineup will work against Washington – it’s more or less what they do – so we’ll be matching them in a sense. But that’s why Washington has never gotten over the hump. With Arenas, Butler, and Jamison they should have been an elite team but they have no post scoring. Really this lineup is matching the recent Wizards team – which is a recipe to lose to Cleveland in the first round. But because we might beat Washington, Curry will probably think it’s a savior lineup. The guy just needs to realize that the teams at the top of the east will abuse us. We don’t need elite bigs to compete with K. Perkins or the the Ben Wallace of today – but we need A big in there to compete with them. Stuckey, Iverson and Hamilton is going to be the craziest turnover factory. Man.

I do think my lineup I mentioned is far fetched – but I don’t know why it is. I think having Prince run the point has had to cross Curry’s mind as he toys with it – sure in two minute intervals but still. He has to like the idea of a SF that shuts down the other team’s best players – that’s what he was. I know he hates playing guys that over 6’7" so maybe have it be McDyess and Maxiel instead.

How’s this for a starting lineup?

AI, Rip, Tay, Sheed and whoever matches up best with the other team (Amir, Kwame, Max or Stuckey)

I’d be cool with this.

The strength of the roster is flexibility and depth. I don’t think we necessarily have to have a set starting lineup.

@LB:
“Of course the nit-picking is annoying.”

You’re goddamn right it is. No one here is giving Amir a free pass. We all have criticisms and many have voiced them here. We want more out of the kid, and we’ve seen the mistakes he’s made in progressing toward 20+mpg. But come on, how many times are you going to grasp at straws, scanning for the negatives until you realize that the majority of this community supports Amir? (and not blindly)

It has to be difficult to try and justify your hatred for the kid and at the same time Ignore PER, ignore Wins Produced, ignore 82games, ignore his stats per 36 minutes. So he does his job by defending the post and picks up a few And 1’s in a blowout? OMFG TRADE AMIR!!11

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again— Amir will be at least a serviceable starter soon enough, and he’s making progress in what is essentially his rookie season. The rest of us see it. Like Shinons said, the nitpicking is annoying— as is the suggestion that we’re all giving him a free pass with his struggles.

@Juicebox:
“The unfortunate part is that the lineup will work against Washington”

Add to that the fact that historically, Caron Butler has repeatedly lit up the Pistons, giving Tay problems. Move Tay to the 4 on Jamison, can Rip really handle Butler?

I’m hoping Stuckey will do a better job on Nick Young this time around… and not let him go 6-10 from the field and 11-11 from the line (although that was a shared defensive responsibility, chauncey was on the floor guarding young when stuckey was sitting)

“Stuckey, Iverson and Hamilton is going to be the craziest turnover factory. Man.”

It’s only a 38 minute sample size, but we are +14% in turnovers when these guys are on the floor with Tay and Sheed.

QD-I’m sort of with you, but I think the problem would be that our team wouldn’t have their own identity. Instead of having other teams come up with gameplans to play us we’d always shift our lineup to best fit their lineup and starting 5. That seems like it’d win us games in the short term but hurt us in the long run.

If our team started shooting better, as in any of the starters over 45%, than I wouldn’t mind this. We’ve all seen that Iverson and, for the most part Stuckey, can’t play man defense. So maybe with having A.I. and bigs that can run it wouldn’t be a bad idea to try to be a high scoring running team. It would take a major lineup overhaul to become a great defensive team – and I’m not sure we’d be able to even if we started our best defensive 5 – so maybe the strategy of small ball, high octane offense, is the best for this team. I hated the Suns and Mavericks of a few years back – but I do remember thinking that if either one of those teams were in the East they’d demolish the conference. The East has gotten better but I do think they’d have a lot of trouble taking down our team with that style – especially given the possibility that we could still lock down on half court defense at the end of a game – those West teams never could. Still, I think two bigs and Prince at the point is the best hope for being more than a good gimmick team.

Jim-The +14 doesn’t mean we won’t turn it over a lot though. Any lineup with Iverson and Stuckey will create turnovers, that’s for sure, but they also give them up. I’d rather win the turnover battle 0-1 than 10-15 – I think that style serves teams that struggle to score better, which we have been.

Juicebox for Coach!!!! Those are some interesting lineups. The only thing I would question is not having sheed in the starting lineup to guard the opposing team’s best big man. Amir still can’t handle some of the bigger and/or more skilled guys. McDyess is good, but Sheed is the best. Otherwise, I concur with Garret that those line ups make you wonder why we suck so much right now, despite having awesome players.

Stuckey can’t play man to man defense? He definitely needs some work, but he’s much better than AI. I see potential for him to improve. Not so much with AI.

When I’m coach, I’d have Rasheed over McDyess when we’re playing guys like Duncan, Garnett, Howard, etc, to guard those guys – but for 22 of the teams I’d prefer him off the bench. Just as I’d swap Maxiel for Amir when we go up against big-body C’s with no real offense (Perkins) so that Amir doesn’t get overpowered. So the bigs would change periodically – but the most important part is the trio of front court players – that’s where consistency is most needed. Prince at the point just seems like a natural move to me. Flip toyed with it. Plus, I think Prince could guard quick guards better than Stuckey or A.I. And then the teams that don’t switch matchups, as some won’t, Prince would be able to post on. I’d like to see Prince post at the top of the key, back down to where he can get his hook, or have the defense collapse and have McDyess/Sheed or Iverson and Afflao as options. I don’t think I’ve ever seem him post in that position on the floor – I want to see that.

What is the advantage of bringing Sheed off the bench?? If I were coach I’d play him till he passes out — or techs out. A tired or dongivashit Sheed is still better than anything else we have as well as most others have.

MP: Maybe it’s the better part of DBB’s community that’s become about annoying nit-picking. Since Day 1, you’ve been Amir’s biggest cheerleader. You can’t bear to dig on the guy, and suggesting you don’t give him a free pass is patently absurd. He’s clearly behind Maxiell on the depth chart, about to be behind Dice too, which makes the likelihood virtually assured that he and Kwame (depending on the matchup) will share the honors of mutual 4th big.

Amir is a guy who went from starting in the season opener to quickly becoming not even a top option off the bench in ten games. Now there’s all this crying foul but have you (among others) stopped to say “Whoa, is there a cough reason for this?” Why are we talking about Amir with such gusto? He is irrelevant. He blew it. So did Kwame because he didn’t do a good enough job either. Let’s not talk about them. They will both be essentially glued to the pine. Poof. Game over. Why don’t we quit whining and move on?

We can talk about the real world, where AI must start or must be Marbury’d, or we can play Candy Land where everything is so cute and AI comes off the bench like a good soldier and Amir is the most solidest starter in all of the land. While I’m no critic of Candy Land, I don’t want to play it every day repeatedly. It gets old fast. Let’s hope watching the three guard starting unit doesn’t.

“Since Day 1, you’ve been Amir’s biggest cheerleader.”

I appreciate the compliment, although I think there are some here who would want that title for themselves. From now on, thou shall refer to me as “MP ABC”.

“He blew it.”

11/10/1/3 per 36 minutes, 18 games into what is essentially his rookie season does not = blowing it.

“Let’s not talk about them”

I’ve said nary a word about Amir this season, save for when you rear your head to whine about him. As for “let’s not talk about them”, I’ll continue to not talk about him like I have, unless you bring it up for zero good reason, as you usually do.

Point being, I agree: “Why don’t we quit whining and move on?” Yes, you should quit whining about him. Let’s move on.

If you average 7.05 fouls per 36 minutes, then you’re not going to stay in the game for 36 minutes too often if ever, NBA rules forbid it. By average, you’re done in 30 minutes every night. By average, he would’ve been done in 10 yesterday. You can shout per 36 minute averages from all corners, but it’s not a real stat unless you can play 36 minutes, Mike.

I don’t know if you’ll ever learn that it’s not a real quantity, but it’s not. It’s the old addage of if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. Here are some real statistical averages: 5.1, 4.6, 1.2 and 3.2 fouls in 18 games. I think we joined together in mocking Kendrick Perkins for comparable stats last year. I guess if the guy wears blue and isn’t named Kwame Brown, it’s excused. Let me know how the weather is in Candy Land.

“5.1, 4.6, 1.2 and 3.2 fouls in 18 games”
At 16mpg, that is a lot better than kendrick perkins and still better than kwame brown. With extended minutes, Amir will get his foul issues under control.

For the record, I was in the pro-kwame camp after the signing, and I still don’t think it was a waste. You might have misplaced the knock on the pro-Amir camp on me, as this is my primary separation from that group. Even though he has princess hands and is fun to poke fun at, he does have a place in our squad.

As for the weather in Candy Land, it is much sunnier than it is in Only-come-around-DBB-in-the-last-four-months-for-whiny-i-told-you-so’s Land. But I’m glad to see that in the last few days you’ved started moving out of that area to get back to providing the smart, non-grudgy insight that you originally brought here. That part of you is more than tolerable, its welcomed.

There is alot of good ideas for the Pistons on this board. To bad Curry don’t read this site. He might make some changes as suggested by some of these Piston Fans and have a great season after all.