NBA Summer League 2008: Pistons vs. Clippers
As promised, here's your game thread. With Clippers draft pick Eric Gordon sitting out with a strained left hamstring, the competition should be a little lighter than expected. Instead, the defensive focus should be on Walter Sharpe, who will face a trial by fire tonight-- he'll have his hands full defending Al Thornton. As always, leave your thoughts in the comments!
The game is available as a live stream from the NBA's Summer League scoreboard.
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BTW, let’s hope I’m the only one who sees this tonight:
“This live webcast is not available in your area.
Please check your local tv listings for broadcast info on this game."
I’ve been trying to watch Summer League games all day today and all I get is that bloody error message…
If it is an Iowa thing, I’m moving.
by Mike Payne on Jul 13, 2008 8:37 PM CDT reply actions
go to channelsurfing.net, because that’s what i eventually did
by DetroitGirl4life on Jul 13, 2008 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
streaming just fine on channelsurfing.net, thanks for the tip. I don’t think they’re streaming this one from NBA.com, I still don’t have any kind of a link…Pistons in white?
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:07 PM CDT reply actions
Stones in black. Nice steal by Sharpe to start things off!
by Mike Payne on Jul 13, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions
NBA.com feed has a freaking scoreboard in top center of the screen. That is so uncool.
by LawyerBoy on Jul 13, 2008 9:09 PM CDT reply actions
BA HAHAHAHAHA…can anyone else hear this guy yelling like crazy in the middle of stuckey shooting? “you don’t got no allibi you ugly you ugly!”
“LETS GO CLIPPERS LETS GO!”
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:11 PM CDT reply actions
yeah and the scoreboard isn’t even working wtf???
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
is it just me or is it a non-functioning scoreboard? I can’t read anything.
by Big Mike on Jul 13, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
By the way, that guy screaming in the background is Clipper Darrell, and he’s awesome. He does the same stuff at Clips game and you can hear him just as well. Here’s his website:
I greatly dislike the design of the website, but it gives you a feel for his awesomeness.
by LawyerBoy on Jul 13, 2008 9:12 PM CDT reply actions
Uh, nice up and under layup by Sandman, to say the least. Wow.
by LawyerBoy on Jul 13, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions
Nice move by Walter Sharpe. He seems to have a good feel for the game.
by Jim on Jul 13, 2008 9:14 PM CDT reply actions
detroit big men are settling for too many turn around jumpers…i guess thats one of the results of having them play against mcdyess and sheed all day…
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:16 PM CDT reply actions
lets see if deron can actually do something…he seemed non-existent in the last game.
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:18 PM CDT reply actions
that looked like a goal tend…oh and yeah i am that guy who complains about summer league officiating…
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:20 PM CDT reply actions
Well, at least he put that in my face real quick! nice steal and dunk. he looks good on the defensive end, but those turnovers are UGLY.
by Mike Payne on Jul 13, 2008 9:26 PM CDT reply actions
thats three questionable calls in a row. I mean I don’t want to say I have a better view of the game than the refs do but I mean I AM watching it on my killer laptop streaming screen that is a whole 3" big.
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:27 PM CDT reply actions
and the crowd is chanting Dee-troit Basketbaaaallll…
by Mike Payne on Jul 13, 2008 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
First Deee-troit Basketball chant rings the walls of the COX Pavillon. Clipper Darrell is absolutely awesome. Certainly he doesn’t have any loyalty toward UCLA’s own Arron Afflalo.
by LawyerBoy on Jul 13, 2008 9:31 PM CDT reply actions
If you don’t like Clipper Darrell, you will after this:
http://clippers.freedomblogging.com/2008/02/06/clipper-darrell-says-no-to-mavericks/
As a lifelong Pistons fan, I’d do same thing if I were in his spot.
by LawyerBoy on Jul 13, 2008 9:33 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah, when opposing teams try to lure you away via free agency as a fan, you probably reek with awesomeness. +10 for Clipper Darrell.
by Shinons on Jul 13, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
the Detroit chants are way more awsome then my 3" screen
I’m having trouble telling the difference between Amir and Samb… one of them needs to get different colored socks
by JesseC on Jul 13, 2008 9:34 PM CDT reply actions
Sharpe has some skills…that was a nice reverse finish on the alley oop.
by Jim on Jul 13, 2008 9:35 PM CDT reply actions
Walter’s impressing me with a really nice touch around the basket. He seems to have pretty decent offensive awareness.
by Big Mike on Jul 13, 2008 9:36 PM CDT reply actions
Samb sky hook!
Somebody needs to block out better on the defensive end. Too many o-boards
by JesseC on Jul 13, 2008 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
Hey JesseC,
If you’re streaming this try right clicking on the image and choose zoom. You still won’t be able to recognize any one but at least you won’t strain your eyes.
by ShawninDC on Jul 13, 2008 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
thats the jumper that cheikh actually has in his arsenal. he shouldn’t depend on it so much
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:42 PM CDT reply actions
-Shawn
Thanks. This could be the Dream Team scrimage for all I can tell from the blurs.
by JesseC on Jul 13, 2008 9:44 PM CDT reply actions
Samb and Plastied are getting killed on the boards. DeAndre Jordan looks like he wants baby on the menu tonight.
by JesseC on Jul 13, 2008 9:50 PM CDT reply actions
no offense these last three or four possessions…stuckey and bynum both feel like they can take their guy off the dribble everytime. maybe they can, but that doesn’t mean you should do it every time…
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 9:53 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, I’m late to the party here, but can somebody tell me how to work channelsurfing.net? As a League Pass’r, I’ve never had to use it.
Thanks.
by Other Matt on Jul 13, 2008 10:03 PM CDT reply actions
Holy smokes, that was one hell of a sequence!
by Mike Payne on Jul 13, 2008 10:07 PM CDT reply actions
scroll down the list and look for the pistons game, you’ll see the NBA Summer League logo, or you can just do the search function in your browser for “Pistons” and it should find it right away. Click on the link, and it automatically launches the nba.com stream.
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 10:10 PM CDT reply actions
not sure what he was talking about since i was outside throwin the frisbee for the pooch but I did walk in just as amir johnson threw it down i think…perhaps that was the end of it…
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 10:18 PM CDT reply actions
I wonder why Stuckey hasn’t played at all in the second half?
by Jim on Jul 13, 2008 10:23 PM CDT reply actions
Did Afflalo really just score like 8 straight?
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
my guess is since we’re up by 20, curry would rather not jeopardize injuring stuckey in a meaningless section of an almost completely meaningless game. That and he may just want to get some of the deeper bench some burn. Bynum has been playin well too of course.
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 10:33 PM CDT reply actions
It keeps trying to make me download the Windows Media Player extension for Firefox, which for some reason I can’t get to work.
by Other Matt on Jul 13, 2008 10:35 PM CDT reply actions
@Other Matt, James B.:
After Amir threw it down, a Clipper took the ball out of bounds and Bynum immediately stole it and layed it right into the basket. Four points in about 3 seconds of play, Amir/Bynum!
by Mike Payne on Jul 13, 2008 10:38 PM CDT reply actions
Is Sharpe defending Thornton?
And how good does Jordan look, 15 and 10? I know it’s only summer league, but the doubts about his abilities were perhaps a bit unfounded?
by Other Matt on Jul 13, 2008 10:39 PM CDT reply actions
Other Matt: He was nasty in the first half of their first game too. He’s a big boy with unbridled, youthful enthusiasm. He was doing a little too much undeserved “flexing” for my and QD’s tastes during their game on Friday. We were literally laughing at how ridiculous he was being, but we weren’t questioning the flashes of brilliance he seems to display. With him only turning 20 next week, he’s got quite a future, I think.
by LawyerBoy on Jul 13, 2008 10:45 PM CDT reply actions
most of deandre jordan’s points have come off of detroit big’s stepping and diverting the opposing guards way too far out. They don’t get back to recover so deandre ends up with the rotated passes and a wide open dunk under the hoop.
He’s been solid on the glass though, I will give him that. Although Samb and Amir have been pretty much non-existent…they must have been out late scoring hotties.
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 10:47 PM CDT reply actions
Aaron Afflalo 6th man of the year award.
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 10:48 PM CDT reply actions
Game ball – AA : 25 points on 8-10 shooting and 9/9 from the line. 4 rebounds, 2 turnovers
by Big Mike on Jul 13, 2008 10:51 PM CDT reply actions
and thats all she wrote it appears…
Player of the Game: Aaron Afflalo 25 points on 8-10 shooting, 9-9 from the line, with 4 boards. Do you think Aaron feels slighted that all of the hype in the off-season has largely been about what Stuckey will bring to the table next year?
What a pleasant surprise it would be to see Aaron come out and dominate the mid-range game like he did tonight on a consistent basis.
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 10:53 PM CDT reply actions
I thought Bynum played well given the time he had on the floor…needs to work on not turning the ball over though.
Sharpe looked good but kind of disappeared after the first 5-6 minutes…Samb needs to limit his jumpers, amir needs to get bigger on the glass, and Stuckey needs to run the actual offense when he’s got players on the floor that know it. It seemed like he was just charging at the hoop without even really thinking about mismatches or working the ball around for the best shot.
by James B. on Jul 13, 2008 10:55 PM CDT reply actions
Good for Afflalo! Gotta love a quiet, productive player who works hard. Reminds me of someone else from a while back… pesky defender, soft jumper… hmm.
by Garrett on Jul 13, 2008 11:49 PM CDT reply actions
didn’t see game, but why did stuckey only play 13 minutes? just want to confirm it wasn’t injury-related…
by JackDutch on Jul 14, 2008 12:30 AM CDT reply actions
Hey JD,
It was not injury-related. While I can’t read Curry’s mind, I would assume it was due to a) our solid lead over LA, b) the performance of Will Bynum (who started off quite rusty, IMO) and c) that it was pretty apparent we’d win the game on the performance of Aaron Afflalo. Afflalo’s performance gave Curry more opportunity to try new things in other positions.
by Mike Payne on Jul 14, 2008 12:33 AM CDT reply actions
Unfortunately the stream didn’t have play-by-play, so you couldn’t really tell from watching the game, but the Pistons were up 11 at half time and Bynum was playing well. They stretched the lead to 20 in the middle of the third and so Curry brought in Stout. I think Curry may have just felt that now was a good time to get some of the deeper players on the bench some burn.
That or he got injured…but I’m hoping for my first assumption
by James B. on Jul 14, 2008 12:35 AM CDT reply actions
was this game before or after the DET-LAL game?
anyway if you want to watch that game just go to http://bt.davka.info/ and d/l the torrent
by ohad on Jul 14, 2008 1:49 AM CDT reply actions
Apparently, it was injury related. Stuckey has a sore toe.
by Quick Darshan on Jul 14, 2008 3:26 AM CDT reply actions
The more I think about it, I’d like to see Afflalo/Rip/Sharpe be the back up SF’s (assuming we come back to start the season with the same squad). I’m not sure if Sharpe is ready to contribute right away, but you can tell he definitely has some skill.
Some of our best stretches of basketball against Boston came with a 3 guard lineup, and while there are a lot of good SF’s in the East, none of them are great post up threats. Rip showed the ability to guard SF’s last year and I feel pretty confident Afflalo can do the same. There’s 144 total minutes between the 1, 2, and 3 positions, so Rip, CB, Tay, and Stuck could all play 30-32 minutes per game and that would leave 15-20 for Afflalo. If Sharpe can proove he deserves playing time then finding minutes for him is a good problem to have.
by Jim on Jul 14, 2008 9:01 AM CDT reply actions
Walt needs just a little time to adjust to the speed of the game. By the end of summer league there will be no questions on why he was drafted. B’ham baby.
by roc on Jul 14, 2008 9:38 AM CDT reply actions
“Stuckey has a sore toe.”
Yeah, Stuckey’s not happening this season.
by kevin s. on Jul 14, 2008 11:33 AM CDT reply actions
Jordan posterized all of our bigs something awful. Not just because they were getting back on hedging but because he just out muscled and out quicked them all, including Amir. Reminded me of how the Celtics bigs punked us big time in the ECF.
Amir was also tentatively awful on offense, including missing a dunk and clanking a shot from the elbow while showing terrible shooting form.
by Mike on Jul 14, 2008 11:42 AM CDT reply actions
It was very depressing in the least to see Jordan do whatever he wanted under the basket with very little resistance.
by Mike on Jul 14, 2008 11:43 AM CDT reply actions
Ditto Jim & QD. Even if Afflalo’s shot last night was an aberration (and until he does it consistently I’m treating it as such), that guy can defend like a non-rule breaking Bruce Bowen-in-training. Even though it IS summer league, Curry’s been showing a lot of Larry Brown-era full court pressure. Though I have been a Flip apologist in the past, I’m beginning to wonder why we never did this when we clearly had the personnel (starters and bench). Sharpe and Afflalo seem to be taking the ball away at will. Things are skewed in the summer league, but I like what I see.
Aside from perhaps DeAndre Jordan, who I’ve got to assume Joe never bothered working out thinking that there was no way he’d fall as far as he did, I can’t say there’s anyone right now I would have rather seen us pick at 32 than Sharpe. The only guys even worth considering on a level with him (guys like Singletary, CDR, and Sonny Weems), were either attitude problems (CDR) or playing a position we didn’t need.
by LawyerBoy on Jul 14, 2008 2:13 PM CDT reply actions
LB, if Duhon can improve his jumper, than Afflalo who actually had a great mid-range game in college should be fine.
I’m sure the kid’ll work on his range. And at the very least will be able to see Bowen’s corner-three-plus-occasional-drive-and-pull-up and raise him.
by Quick Darshan on Jul 14, 2008 5:06 PM CDT reply actions
“@Kevin S.:
I see what you did there…”
Ouch. The dry comeback. I thought it was funnier than that.
by kevin s. on Jul 14, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions
Recaps from HOOPSHYPE and DRAFTEXPRESS.
HOOPSHYPE
Without Eric Gordon, the Clippers didn’t have a chance against what will likely be the best team in Summer League. Tonight, it was Aaron Afflalo stepping up for the Pistons, as Rodney Stuckey got a little bit less playing time. Afflalo finished with 25 points on 8-10 shooting; one of the things you have to like about Arron is that he doesn’t do things he doesn’t feel he can do well, so he didn’t take a single three-pointer. He got to the line nine times and knocked them all down. Now that’s production!
Studs: DeAndre Jordan looked very solid, notching a double-double with 15 points (on 5-6 from the field, 5-6 from the charity stripe) and 10 rebounds. He’s doing a really good job of playing with a high amount of energy, going after every ball that comes near him. Will Bynum had a nice game in lieu of Stuckey getting some rest, finishing with 10 points (4-7 shooting) and four assists in addition to providing great defense for the Pistons.
Duds: After playing well in Summer League, Al Thornton struggled in this game, shooting 4-18 from the field. He’s clearly better than everyone else on the court, but he’s got to be productive as well.
DRAFTEXPRESS
Game Four: Detroit Pistons 75, Los Angeles Clippers 66
Detroit
Arron Afflalo: 25 Points, 8-10 FG, 9-9 FT, 4 Rebounds, 1 Assist, 2 Turnovers
Afflalo had a great game today, utilizing his midrange shooting ability to take advantage of the absence of LA’s best wing defender Eric Gordon. Afflalo has very consistent form, and while his range isn’t great, he’s a marksman from seventeen feet. He did a great job getting to the rim by running the floor hard in transition and using his dribble to attack recovering defenders. Though Afflalo isn’t the most athletic wing, he’s polished and played to his strengths, helping he stand out as easily the most productive player on the floor today.
-Rodney Stuckey was extremely quiet, seeming to pick and choose his spots rather than playing his game. He played only 13 minutes, and looked good, but obviously wasn’t playing with a sense of urgency, even though it was impossible to ignore his terrific physical approach to the game.
-Cheick Samb and Amir Johnson provide a lot of size and youth up front for Detroit, and both seem bigger than they were last year. Johnson is the better prospect, but backup centers aren’t easy to develop and Samb seems capable of becoming one.
-Walter Sharpe is quite an athlete, but he wasn’t shooting well today. He and Deron Washington showed nice defensive intensity.
Los Angeles
DeAndre Jordan: 15 Points, 5-6 FG, 5-9 FT, 10 Rebounds, 1 Block, 3 Turnovers
Jordan had a very good game today, showing some of his considerable upside. He doesn’t have a high skill level right now, and faces an uphill battle in developing an effective one, but he showed that he can produce with help from a good point guard on this level. Jordon was the recipient of a handful of nice alley oop passes, and while he didn’t show almost anything with his back to the basket, there’s something to be said for using him using his size and athleticism to score without getting touches. Though Jordan isn’t very physically aggressive on the block, he will collect his fair share of rebounds due to his length. He flew over opponents on a number of occasions on his way to some tremendous putback dunks.
Mike Taylor: 13 Points, 3-8 FG, 1—1 3FG, 6-11, 6 Rebounds, 1 Assist, 1 Block, 7 Turnovers, 5 Fouls
Taylor earns mention here for playing relatively well today, especially in the second half when he stopped turning the ball over as frequently. The former D-League star has all kinds of offensive skills, showing great quickness and assertiveness, but he’s been off in both games we’ve seen him play. He can shoot the NBA three and contribute on the glass with his athleticism, but offers essentially nothing in the way of playmaking ability. His seven turnovers are the result of his over-dribbling offensively, and while he’s dominant in some settings, he’s yet to explode offensively in this one. Still not much to be found in term of his point guard skills.
-Al Thornton didn’t look as good today as he did yesterday, facing a lot of resistance defensively and getting taken out of his rhythm early in the contest. He was having a hard time getting to the places on the floor that he likes to score from, slowing him significantly.
-Nick Fazekas has a decent game, but was largely overwhelmed by Detroit’s athleticism inside. His touch lets him finish some open chances from the midrange, but he struggled around the rim.
by Quick Darshan on Jul 15, 2008 11:13 AM CDT reply actions

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