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Summer league roster set

The Pistons announced their summer league roster a few days ago -- it's mostly what we thought it'd be (absolutely stacked with the likes of Rodney Stuckey, Arron Afflalo, Amir Johnson and this year's rookie class), but a few of the lesser names have been switched around.

For one, Dee Brown has been replaced with Will Bynum. DBB reader Ohad, who lives in Israel and saw all of Bynum's games for Macabi Tel Aviv, emailed the following scouting report:

I think it is a total waste of time to let him play for the Pistons' summer league. He played this year in Macabi Tel Aviv and I saw all his games. He is a short, very athletic, fast (watch his first step - amazing) guard who makes really bad decisions with the ball. Was supposed to play point and he actually did but really unsuccessfully. Plenty of TO to go with those assists. Another thing I found weird is how easily he is trapped when doubled teamed with a full/half court press. He just freaks out and desperately looks for someone else to handle the ball and then turns it over. I'd take Stuckey any day of the week. An assist/TO ratio of 3:2.3?! I don't think so!

For what it's worth, Ohad was equally as disenchanted with former (and future?) Piston Alex Acker, who averaged just 5.5 points a game in the regular season and playoffs last year for Barcelona. In Acker's defense, he was apparently playing through a knee injury.

If you remember, Keith Langlois said Acker actually has a chance of sticking with the Pistons. I'll believe it when I see it -- it seems clear to me this is simply the Pistons extending a courtesy to a former draft pick.

If you want info on some of the other guys rounding out the roster, check out MLive.com's Full-Court Press -- Dave Dial has done an excellent job rounding up info on the likes of Kentrell Gransberry, Ryvon Covile, Marcus Stout and Derrick Allen.

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Hey Matt,
Is their a large contingent going out to Vegas for the summer camp/-?

by fitnessrunner on Jul 2, 2008 8:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw Kentrell Gransberry play against Marquette and in a few other Big East games and the guy is a beast. Good scorer down low and hits the boards too. I think he has an outside shot at making the team and is a guy I would keep a speacial eye on among the summer roster.

by Something more productive like Roscoe on Jul 2, 2008 9:37 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m surprised to see that Sammy Meija isn’t on the roster.

by Birdman on Jul 2, 2008 9:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, and did you guys see Samb’s measurements? He’s listed at 7’1", 195 lbs.

by Birdman on Jul 2, 2008 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Birdman: Pretty sure those were Samb’s measurements when he first joined the league. I think he’s 200+ now.

by LawyerBoy on Jul 2, 2008 10:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

@Birdman – I believe Meija was supposed to be on the summer league team, but he recently hurt his ankle. Also, lik LB said, those most be old measurements for Samb. He just looked much bigger at the end of last season and I remember McDyess saying how much bigger and stronger Samb has gotten over the last 2 years.

by Jim on Jul 2, 2008 11:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I log college basketball games for ESPNU here in Charlotte, and I was telling my brother that I hoped the Pistons drafted Gransberry #59 prior to the draft. I was excited to see he was playing on our summer league team. He is a beast..exactly what we need down low. I hope he sees some court time. He held his own in the Big East, on a not very good USF team, against the likes of Hibbert, Thabeet, Harangody etc.

As an aside I’d like to say that this is the first time I’ve ever made a comment, but I religiously read the posts and comments, and I commend everyone for their insightful, poignant discussions about my/our favorite team.

by Big Fritz on Jul 2, 2008 11:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a good article by Dial. I didn’t read it before my original post and was wondering if Joe D added Gransberry to the roster because of his newfound USF ties.

Taking a look at Gransberry’s stats, they were very similar to D.J. White’s both junior and senior years. Gransberry was actually a bit more productive both years in terms of ppg and rpg. He doesn’t block as many shots as White (who I can’t imagine will be any type of shot-blocking force in the NBA), but did improve significantly in that category his senior year.

Added to all this is the fact that Gransberry did this against a much higher level of competition than White and I reiterate my original post and echo Big Fritz that Gransberry has a legit shot at a roster spot.

by Something more productive like Roscoe on Jul 2, 2008 2:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Fritz: Thank you for posting. It’s odd to me that there would be so many “lurkers” here @ DBB. Come on guys, say something! You must get tired of people like Boney, kevin s., and me just yapping endlessly, no? We want the most diverse set of insightful opinions possible because the growth of DBB is one of the things that makes it great!

Okay, now that I’m done shilling for DBB, I advise SMPLRoscoe and Big Fritz to read this article earlier this month from Draft Express:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/What-We-learned-from-the-NBA-Draft-Measurements-and-Combine-2913/

Not only do I recommend the article as a whole, but they touch specifically on Gransberry. He’s the eighth player out of eleven that they have a blurb on. It certainly gave me an interesting outlook, especially after reading the comments from you guys. As for the “Gransberry did this against a much higher level of competition than White” claim that SMPLRoscoe put forth, I dunno if I agree with “much” higher level. Besides, DJ shot just over 9% better from the field and 18.3% better from the free throw line. I don’t meant to knock Gransberry at all having never seen him play, I’m just trying to defend DJ a little and also provoke further thought and discussion on the subject.

But no matter what Gransberry is/isn’t, anything less than an undefeated showing for our Summer League team is an embarrassment to me.

by LawyerBoy on Jul 2, 2008 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

*mean to knock

by LawyerBoy on Jul 2, 2008 3:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

“anything less than an undefeated showing for our Summer League team is an embarrassment to me.”

Especially since Curry (and I believe the rest of the coaching staff) is coaching the summer league team. We have the most talented roster plus all the guys will be trying to impress the new head coach.

by Jim on Jul 2, 2008 3:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Portland may have a good roster with all their draft picks/young players.

by Quick Darshan on Jul 2, 2008 3:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Lawyerboy: Disappointing little blurb about Gransberry, as he was a little on the “Big Baby” side to begin with, but that might be a good thing. Maybe he gets around guys like Maxiell and Amir and gains a better understanding of the level of commitment it takes to make it in the NBA.

I watched many IU games the past season ($15/hr to log college baskeball games so I’ve watched a lot) and DJ White is certainly more impressive offensively. The comparison of Gransberry to O. Miller (6-9 280lb)isn’t that far off, and if he could put up 7.4 pts and 5.9 rebs per game over an 11 yr career ala Miller, while providing a BIG body at the end of the bench that would be quite a free agent find.

“Big O” played in the D my freshman year of college…ahh the good old days.

by Big Fritz on Jul 2, 2008 3:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have heard that before about how fat he is. My hope is that is he realizes that’s the reason he wasn’t drafted, has started to take things more seriously and shows up to Vegas in a bit better shape.

Maybe D.J. White just likes wearing bulky undershirts underneath his jersey, but he never struck me as much of a physcial specimen either. And can we please stop with the measuring without shoes? Who cares? I’ve never seen anyone play a full game in the NBA barefoot. I understand the NBA trying to discourage guys showing up to these workouts with Costanza-like shoe soles to add height, but for the most part I think those measurables are overblown.

As for the comment about much better competition I knew that would offend some, but I stick by the statement. I grew up next door to Michigan State and pull for the Spartans any time they aren’t playing Marquette, but Big Ten basketball is an oxymoron. Can you name one pro prospect that was a post player in the Big Ten outside of D.J. White?

Can’t argue with the shooting percentages but the main point was D.J. White was someone most on this site were at least ok with as being the Pistons first round pick. Instead Joe D. took a flier on a guy with similar numbers without having to give a guarenteed contract or use a draft pick.

On top of that, while White didn’t have a fellow post threat at IU, he was playing with a lottery pick. USF was godawful last year and Gransberry was their only player. I take that into account when looking at his numbers.

by Something more productive like Roscoe on Jul 2, 2008 4:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

@fitnessrunner: I’ve heard some commenters here say they might make it out. There’s a slim (15% 20%) chance that I may, as well.

@Big Fritz: welcome to the discussion! And thanks for the insight — I honestly know nothing about Gransberry, so it’s much appreciated.

@LB: there a lot of lurkers here. Thousands of people read this site a day, only a few dozen are regular commenters. If you’re a first-timer waiting to chime in, by all means, join the fun.

@SMPL Roscoe: I actually prefer measuring without shoes since that’s how most of us do it in real life. I’m 6-6 without shoes, and when people ask how tall I am, I say 6-6. But if I were on an NBA roster, I’d probably be listed at 6-8, which is kind of a farce.

by Matt Watson on Jul 2, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

i’m now at .5% chance of making it out of vegASS. i’ll be working that 1st weekend. and vegASS isn’t close enough for a day trip from l.a.

by JackDutch on Jul 2, 2008 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Kentrell Gransberry has almost identical stats to Reggie Evans in college. I don’t know what kind of motor the kid has but if he’s gets strong for the NBA and plays smart and hard he seems like the kind of player that can be a wrecking ball on your second unit. Note to self: USF is in the Big East. I’m a lifelong UConn fan going back to the days before Cliff Robinson and I can’t believe the teams that are in the the Big East now. Marquette? USF? Huh?

by joejoejoe on Jul 2, 2008 8:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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