That was a helluva game. I think I caught it on ESPN Classic, and it was a real thrill. youku sucks, but I’ll definitely check out the link later on.

Those old Denver teams were ridiculous. Didn’t they routinely average 125 ppg (giving up as much or more, of course)?

There was an article about that game by a columnist at ESPN’s Page 2 not that long ago called “the big score”…here’s the link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=neel/051213

Its interesting what he said about 3 pointers. Players today like Chauncey rely way to heavily on a 3 pointer in the regular flow of the game. Heck even Rasheed does it too often for my fancy. It will always be easier to score closer to the basket.

We had a debate about whether Isiah or Chauncey was better recently on Pistonscast. One of the major discussion points was who was a more efficient and productive shooter. David Berri a sports economist argued that it was Chauncey because his adjusted field goal percentage basically Chauncey’s Points per shot was higher.

I argued that was because 3 pointers were not apart of the game back then.

Kelly Tripucka thank you for the confirmation.

Check it out:

http://www.pistonscast.com/podcasts/pistonscast063.mp3

Peace

John W. Davis
www.pistonscast.com

Good stuff from the past, since there isn’t too much in the present to read/write about, unless The Big OttaShape announcing his retirement counts as news. Thanks, Matt, for giving us something else to chew on for the next month.

Dear RichRod….

I know you’re probably busy getting ready for the game tomorrow so I won’t take too much of your time…. I understand you’re new to this Michigan thing so I just want to make sure you understand the gravity of the situation:

A) Charlie Weis is a fat flatulent fraud. Say that with me a few times, it’s a fascinating tongue twister AND it’s 100% true.

B) You are probably going to lose to Ohio State by about 25 points at the end of this season. This is NOT going to make the Michigan faithful happy, but it’s not a firing offense UNLESS you ignore fact C… which brings me to…

C) Coaches who lose to both ND and Ohio State aren’t popular in Wolverine land. Like, toilet-papering your house unpopular. Like wearing paper bags over ours heads at home games unpopular. Like burning you in effigy unpopular. Like beating up your kids at school and shitting on your wife’s car while she’s in Target unpopular.

No pressure Richie but you’d basically better win or you’re already 2 steps out the door.

Welcome to Michigan, try not to let the door hit your hayseed hick muther-f-ing ass on the way out if you let ND embarrass us tomorrow.

Again, no pressure.

Also, fascinating fact I discovered while googling how to spell “embarrass”…. I realize this is somewhat redundant but did you know Embarrass is actually a place in Wisconsin?

No joke:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embarrass,_Wisconsin

Of course people FROM Wisconsin will already know that their state and the word “embarrass” go hand in hand…

Okay, DBB needs a football thread in the sidebar where any and all football related discussions can be had. Maybe one for politics too. That way we can keep these now-daily basketball threads on topic…

MP, I swear this will only be a problem on Friday Nights/Saturday mornings, at least for me anyways… the Lions are terrible…

As for on topic, what am I supposed to say “Wow that’s a lot of baskets in one game”… I mean it is, but that was like 25 years ago…

Not that I’d object to a football thread but I even waited until way late at night to “jump off topic”…

Lighten up yo.

As light as a feather, PG4L. I’m not the DBB cops, I just thought it was a legitimate idea, especially in light of Matt’s countdown idea. It is single-handedly making the next 46 days of my basketball-addicted life a bit brighter…

Well, in basketball news:

 I read that Shaun Livingston wants to go to Portland, I think that’d be a good place for him, lots of talent, no pressure to perform, just keep rehabbing and hone the skills he has and concentrate on what parts of his game are still intact at this point.

 Although the Heat & Wolves want him pretty bad.

“Although the Heat & Wolves want him pretty bad.”

I think it says something pretty bad about one’s team if you’re chasing a guy with one functional leg “pretty bad”…

Thank GOD we have Chauncey. 4really.

They would always bring up that game before any Pistons Nuggets matchup in the 1980s. The 151-142 game, where Blair Rasmussen and Jay Vincent came out of nowhere to combine for like 50 points, was pretty good stuff as well.

Of course, that was back when it took 110 points to win a game, and 130 to score free pizza.

I’m just going to go out on a limb and say that I don’t think ANY of Lloyd’s teams every put the ball on the ground and lost it 6 times in one game.

Embarrass isn’t just a place in Wisconsin anymore….

Not funny guys, not funny.

PG4L, if there’s a bright side, McGuffie looks good. And with the Ohio State getting embarrassed again on a National Stage, Michigan might be ahead of the curve in the Big Ten by going with a more speed based system.

Okay, I have been drinking for a good 8 hours now, so I’ll try to keep it coherent. That game was unequivocally not Rich’s fault. He can’t go in and field kick offs, throw screens forward (not backward!!), and hang on to the fricking football in a monsoon. The game plan was phenomenal as evidenced by the box-score. We out rushed them by a significant margin, out-passed them by a significant margin, and out played them in my opinion. And I’m drunk as hell…

A lot of high variance things happened in that game. We turned it over 6 (SIX!!??!?!!!) times. That cannot happen, but is to be somewhat expected when you start approximately 423 freshman on the road -in a monsoon- for the first time. I can live with this. We gift wrapped them 21 points, and I will go to my grave swearing that the Mathews catch was a TD in the 2nd quarter. My personal opinion (and the box score backs me up) is that this should have been a 24-14 win for Michigan. Threet looked terrific to me. There are positives to be gleaned.

Michigan fans, I implore you, please do not throw in the towel. You can see glimpses of what will eventually be. Rich Rodriguez is absolutely the right coach. Be patient. Please. Give this coach and this program a few years and you will be rewarded! There are promising signs…

Also, getting drunk and wandering around DC for a while and randomly coming up to a Wisconsin bar is a strange, strange thing to experience. Although, their fans were mostly encouraging and cordial to our small group of Michigan alums.

Go Blue…

I don’t want to get all grumpy old man, but isn’t there a football blog that’s equivalent to DBB? I come here to read basketball stuff, but I guess at the same time I can just keep skipping over the football-related comments.

So….

It’s 2:41 AM. I log onto DBB mostly because I’m bored and sleepy but not tired enough to go to bed……

I click on the current thread to find Garrett commenting at 2:36 AM that and I quote…

 “I don’t want to get all grumpy old man, but isn’t there a football blog that’s equivalent to DBB? I come here to read basketball stuff, but I guess at the same time I can just keep skipping over the football-related comments.”

Note, it’s September 14th…

Note the last basketball comment was a “Yeah that was a happy memory” at umm…3:26 PM…

So apparently Garrett would prefer that NOTHING have been typed here for half a day.. just because “Hey this isn’t a football blog”.

You win Internets… I fucking quit.

Ciao.

186-184? Crazy. I don’t think I’ve made that many baskets in a lifetime of playing pickup ball.

I like the OT Detroit sports comments. My Detroit sports love extends only as far as the Pistons and Shock so it’s fun to see people pulling their hair out over Rich Rodriguez and Matt Millen.

My take on politics and sports blogs is they are a bad mix. On the day when a VP is announced or the Mayor resigns or some breaking event happens it’s cool to discuss in passing but otherwise things degenerate quickly into comments like ‘I should have know you didn’t know jack about fiscal discipline when you suggested trading ‘Sheed for Zach Randolph! [insert party/candidate here] sucks!’.

A kind of communinity and culture builds up in the comment section of a good blog and going too far outside the topic area of the blog puts strains on the comment community. It’s already hard enough to pick up the jokes, snark, references of strangers without throwing all kinds of controversial topics into the mix.

As for being on topic, I think the longer a thread stays up the more it’s going to decay into off topic ‘open thread’ type comments. It’s a positive sign that people like DBB so much that they want to hang out here and share in the forum.

Kitna threw 3 INTs in like 10 minutes, two to Charles Woodson for TDs. Yuck. Lions were actually up by 1 for a very short period there.

The Lions are terrible.

almost 44 days til Detroit Basketball and depression will end…

At least Calvin Johnson is racking up points for my fantasy team. I think the Pistons should sign him for the 15th roster spot. Let him get physical with Lebron.

PG4L: Just voicing my opinion is all. Plus, I said I’d just keep skipping over the football posts, so it’s not a big deal. You went a bit extreme there, but I’ll blame the lack of sleep.

Your opinion was that this isn’t a football blog and that you were sick of seeing football posts…

WHEN NOBODY HAD TALKED ABOUT BASKETBALL FOR HALF A F’ING DAY…

No need to blame lack of sleep, you’re just an asshat…

But again, you’re right, it’s a basketball blog… in fact it’s a Detroit Pistons blog so I’ve decided not to post anything anymore unless I have something I HAVE to say about the Pistons… which will be precisely never.

Thanks for being such a jerk.

Ciao

Wow.

whoa.