Presenting the Big Men of 2010
So we’ve (and by "we’ve" I mean "I’ve) determined that the Pistons will probably be in the hunt for a big man in 2010. Without any further adieu, here are the 2010 free agents, categorized by their value. For the purpose of this list, I am assuming that teams are going to take their rookie options (i.e. there’s no point in worrying about Al Horford).
Also, different sites have conflicting information on available free agents, so feel free to correct me (and I'll remember to hat tip).
The Studs
Chris Bosh - Would he be perfect? Absolutely. Alas, I think this is where NYC will break our hearts. Whether or not they score LeBron, the Knicks are going to zero in on Bosh, and New York provides every answer to his obscurity problems.
Amare Stoudemire– If this were a horse race, Amare would be the 4-3 bet. Phoenix has been shopping him, and he’s probably unhappy enough to take his ETO. Questions about his attitude are probably enough to drive away the bigger sharks. A frontcourt of Amare, Amir and Prince would keep the Pistons in the hunt through 2015.
Dirk Nowitzki– Nobody is talking about this one. With Josh Howard an unrestricted, Dirk (and Dallas) might be looking for a change. He’ll be 32, but his conditioning is solid, and size and shooting age well. Pairing one of the greatest scorers in NBA history with Amir in the frontcourt could make us the team to beat.
Yao Ming – Has an early termination option that he probably won’t use. Plus, if he left Texas, he’d have to learn yet another language. They speak oil down there.
The Consolation Prizes
Tyson Chandler – The NBA, where "you would be out of your mind to take an early termination option if you’re Tyson Chandler and you’re due to make $13 million" happens.
Troy Murphy – Can DBB readers just make a suicide pact, in case it comes to this?
Zach Randolph – The only 20-10 guy in history whose presence has not impacted his team’s winning percentage one iota. That’s hard to do. That said, if the price is right.
(sorry: h/t just about everyone catching that one)
Amir Johnson – Oh, wait, he’s on our team.
The MLE Signings
Kenyon Martin– Anyone up for McDyess part II? Could be a solid MLE signing.
Carl Landry– You know that scene in The Dark Knight, where the Joker holds "tryouts" to join his gang? How cool would it be if Dumars signed Landry, and pulled that out with Landry and Maxiell?
Jeff Foster –Foster and Fabio on the same team? I don’t think there are enough manicurists in Michigan…
Shaquille O’Neal – At 36, the Big AARP is arguably the second best center in the league. Don’t count him out unless he retires.
Marcus Camby– See Kenyon Martin. Like Dennis Rodman without the crazy.
Udonis Haslem – The Antonio Davis of the 2010 Free Agent Class. Some team will look at his stats, reason that he’s essentially a double-double guy, and throw $10 million at him for no reason.
Craig Smith – If he lost weight, he’d be a star. Prediction: he will lose weight before the end of the 2009-10 season. Don’t be fooled, Joe D.
Joel Przybilla – See Tyson Chandler, and modify downward accordingly.
Brendan Haywood – The MLE prototype. Probably worth the money, but won’t put anyone over the top.
The Veterans Minimum Crew
Ben Wallace – I’d actually welcome him back… As an assistant coach.
Nazr Mohammed – If Ramadan were in July, this guy would be a star. It’s not, though.
Kurt Thomas – You know he’ll wind up on the Pistons one way or another… It just seems like destiny.
Mikki Moore – Hey, he played for us once.
The Dregs
D.J. Mbenga – The "M" is silent. How is the "M" silent? As a joke, the next time someone calls him "D.J.", he should say "no, it’s just ‘J’, the ‘D’ is silent".
Darko Milicic – You laugh… But if things are looking grim, I guarantee that one of you will post the following in the comments section 18 months from now:
"You know, I hate to say this, but I think Milicic could bring some value. We’re hurting for a shot-blocking presence, and he’s still young…"
And I will be there to hate you.
Mark Madsen – As long as everyone now recognizes KG as a punk, it’s worth noting that the T-Wolves have been saddled with a long term contract for this guy entirely at Garnett’s behest. KG is the new Isiah.
Tim Thomas – The NBA, where "you never lived up to your potential, but you have to play until you’re 39 because you make bad choices" happens.
Brad Miller – He’ll retire, maybe to Keith Van Horn’s ranch.
Fabricio Oberto– How much does Walter Herrmann look like Fabio? Another long-haired Argentinean named FABricIO was never even considered for the title. Hell, his friends probably call him Fabio unironically. But, yeah, on the basketball thing, no thanks.
Tony Battie– Did you know he’s only 32? Doesn’t he seem older than that? I feel like I’ve been reading "Tony Battie Traded" since I was four years old.
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Hey, during February ‘07, the only stretch of Darko’s career where he got over 30 minutes per game, he averaged 11.7 ppg on 50.4% shooting, grabbed 7 boards per game, swatted over 2 shots per game, even .7 steals per game for good measure. How can you dismiss a potential double double guy that plays great defense who is a true center, is available at a discount, and is only 23 years old for crying out loud?!?!??
By the way I’m kidding. But yes, I’m sure we will see someone type pretty much that exact quote.
by Shinons on Jan 8, 2009 2:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
@shinons – Only if he brings back that bleach blond look he was sporting his first season. THAT’S why we won the championship!
by Brad on Jan 8, 2009 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
the amount of athletic monster jams produced with maxiell, amir, and amare would be astounding.
by aaron on Jan 8, 2009 3:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bosh or Amare would be awesome. I have a feeling NY will get one of them, but I hope we get the other if nothing happens this summer.
I’m still a big fan of throwing some money at Millsap this summer and seeing what happens. The dude can play, he’d be cheaper then Bosh/Amare, and we’d have less competition to get him. If it doesn’t work we still have the guys above to go for in 2010. The one downside is he’s a RFE so Utah can match.
by Jim on Jan 8, 2009 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
And I’ve always felt that Kenyon Martin should be a Piston. Can’t quite pinpoint it, but he just seems to fit the Pistons’ “Crafty Veteran Big Man off the bench.”
by Joel on Jan 8, 2009 3:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like the chances of landing Amare. Whatever happened to the phrase “FPCB”?
Tony Battie? lolol! Didn’t he go to Texas Tech about the same time I was at USC…like 1978?
But it’s still a loooooooooong way until 7/1/2010
by V on Jan 8, 2009 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Joel: Why would we want Chris Andersen? He does everything Amir already does, except without the fouls. Hey, wait a minute …
by LawyerBoy on Jan 8, 2009 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
@LB
I want to fucking party with the Birdman. That’s it. And he does AWLSUM dunk shots.
by Joel on Jan 8, 2009 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So, another words, pinning our future on 2010 is a waste of time.
by dubB on Jan 8, 2009 4:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
“Nazr Mohammed – If Ramadan were in July, this guy would be a star. It’s not, though.”
Ramadan is based on the Islamic calendar which is not equivalent to the roman calendar. So if he were to be given a multi-year contract, Ramadan would actually be in June in the end of his contract. In 2010, for example, Ramadan is in August— not in November as it was when we signed him.
Does this change your analysis? Nope, just thought I’d share.
by Mike Payne on Jan 8, 2009 4:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He can actually fly, ya know. exhales bong load
by Mike Payne on Jan 8, 2009 4:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Of all of those, Yao would be my first choice. I like Jeff Foster too but he’ll be off the aging big man persuasion by then.
by Quick Darshan on Jan 8, 2009 5:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
“Ramadan is based on the Islamic calendar which is not equivalent to the roman calendar. "
Hmmm… Maybe he just doesn’t work out during the offseason, then. It’s funnier to blame it on religion, though.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jan 8, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Screw all these guys, Zaza Pachulia is a UFA this summer! Boo ya!
by Shinons on Jan 8, 2009 5:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I would love to get Brad Miller, his presence on a playoff team would be grand
by RyAN on Jan 8, 2009 6:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dirk would be very interesting to me, though no one seems to talk about him much. Obviously the preference is to get a 25 year old. But he is going to age very well at 7’, with a high basketball IQ, and with one of the 10 best strokes in the game. Likely to be a defensive minus at that point, but hopefully we’ll have Amir for such things. But when people say AI can carry an offense…Dirk Nowitzki can carry an offense.
Not to belabor the love-fest, but I think he is one of the most underrated players in the game. Remember when we all thought Dallas just was oozing great players, and it was actually just Dirk’s fault that they couldn’t win? Yeah, his teammates when they were elite included Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Jerry Stackhouse, and Dampier. Anyone want to pay them 13MM per year? Dirk is an assassin, and should have an NBA title to go with his MVP award.
by Forty on Jan 8, 2009 6:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll put it another way – if Dirk played with Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker, he’d definitely have a title. I’m not saying he’s better than Duncan, I’m just saying Manu and TP are WAY better than Dirk’s teammates were.
by Forty on Jan 8, 2009 6:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to make a clip of Birdman’s attempts, sped up, and with the Benny Hill theme over top, stat.
FPCB for the win! Although I like Yao, too (if he can stay injury-free). Udonis Haslem on the cheap would be a nice replacement for McDyess. And when can we get David Lee? That guy is a machine.
by Garrett on Jan 8, 2009 6:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think signing Zaza Pachulia to this roster would be the best idea ever. He’s the best center in the NBA when it comes to shooting on a thursday-sunday night between the hours of 3pm and 7:15
by the way guys, statistics are the worst thing ever
/LawyerBoy’d
by Boney on Jan 8, 2009 6:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Forty, I think Dirk is intriguing too.
by Quick Darshan on Jan 8, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OT: from Hollinger’s chat today, lest we continue to chide him about OMG Milwaukee OMG!
Matt (Cleveland): I love your statistical based rankings- and everyone is having problems with where you have the Bucks- so… Do you see them as having any chance of making noise in the playoffs (potentially against Bos, Cle, or Orl)? If so, I have to make a quick trip to Vegas and get some nice odds now.
John Hollinger: No, none. I see them as a classic Scott Skiles overachieving regular season team and expect their playoff stay to be brief.
by Forty on Jan 8, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Also, I finally found a Youtube with the KG-McDyess fight. Watch him run away from Dice like a little girl, after spiking him with the ball. The defensive player of the year is also the league’s biggest pansy? Hey, anything’s possidldasjlfdalfjdjfjdfjdllfa;lkfddajf;jdfljajdfafj;djfj!
by Forty on Jan 8, 2009 6:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You don’t think that Camby is worth (or maybe going to get) more than the MLE when he hits free agency?
by Glenn on Jan 8, 2009 9:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Forty, aren’t you glad KG decided not to go to college where he probably would have attended Michigan and we’d have to kind of like him for it? I am, I love to hate the guy.
by Other Matt on Jan 8, 2009 9:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Om – I did not know that, that’s a great factoid. I’m torn on that…I’ve liked big douchebags before (I’m looking at you lamb). But I do love hating kg.
by Forty on Jan 8, 2009 10:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I actually liked KG in Minnesota. I used to think to myself, “He tries so hard! Why can’t they just get him some team mates?!?”
by Garrett on Jan 8, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
“You don’t think that Camby is worth (or maybe going to get) more than the MLE when he hits free agency?”
No. He’s old, and has an injury history. Plus, after a spell with the Clips, he might take a paycut to compete for a championship. Haslem will be the guy who gets the big payday from that lot.
by kevin s. on Jan 8, 2009 11:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Garrett: You’re really ready to cheer for Udonis Haslem? I dunno if I am, I’d have an easier time cheering for him than Kevin Garnett though. That’s for sure.
Glenn: Camby has been really healthy for the last two seasons and this one so far also. He’s been doing serious yeoman work for the Clips this season too. But, he’ll be 36 when the 2010-11 season starts, could anyone really sign him for more than the MLE?
by LawyerBoy on Jan 8, 2009 11:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Kevin, that made me laugh out loud. The URL more than the actual sound effect. Bravo.
by Other Matt on Jan 9, 2009 12:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No one over 30 thanks. FPCB first, Amare second and Dirk thirded.
by Laughton on Jan 9, 2009 1:15 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No love for 2010 free agent bigs Samuel Dalembert and Kendrick Perkins? I don’t want them either but you’ve got Jeff Foster and Mikki Moore on the list. Sheesh.
by joejoejoe on Jan 9, 2009 7:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
“There’s how many people in the world, 10 billion?” he said. “And there’s only 300 people in the NBA. Wouldn’t you have enough pride to go out there and compete? (I’m) not even saying (how) you’re getting paid to do it, that it’s your job, that’s your 9 to 5, (that) you get a check for this. You could be on the corner slinging dope or at KFC working a drive-thru or the post office. (I’m) not even saying that. Wouldn’t you have enough pride to say, ‘Well, I’m one of the 300 people who’s in the NBA,’ and go out there and compete for your recognition? That’s how I feel about it.”
I LOVE Mikki Moore. You can’t tell me you wouldn’t want that guy coming off our bench (again).
by Joel on Jan 9, 2009 8:30 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
(That was said after a recent 40-pt loss to the Cel-dicks.)
by Joel on Jan 9, 2009 8:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
since nobody else took the bait…
You know, I hate to say this, but I think Milicic could bring some value. We’re hurting for a shot-blocking presence, and he’s still young…
by Brad on Jan 9, 2009 9:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
No way do I wanna give Chinese Frankenstein good money. His play is solid but his body is so suspect. I get scared for his poor legs just watching him play.
Joel, I read that Moore quote and thought the same, I admire his pride the same way I do ’Dyess.
by Skylar on Jan 9, 2009 10:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
@Skylar
I second, third, and fourth through tenth that statement on Flankenstien. Does Yao remind anyone else of the South Park where Kyle becomes a tall black kid who owns at basketball but has testicles for knees?
by Joel on Jan 9, 2009 11:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
“No love for 2010 free agent bigs Samuel Dalembert and Kendrick Perkins?”
ESPN doesn’t list them. I tried to cross-check with Real GM, but I missed a couple. ESPN might have information Real GM doesn’t, but they’ve been wrong on a lot of information lately (not least of which, whether a team is playing a home or road game). Seems kinda silly given that they have paid researchers on staff.
by kevin s. on Jan 9, 2009 11:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Kevin’s Darko comment FTW! “I’ll be there to hate you.” That’s epic.
by Keegan on Jan 9, 2009 2:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think Randolph is a free agent in 2010. Otherwise the Knicks would have kept him.
by Marc R on Jan 9, 2009 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Marc R is correct — Randolph expires after 2011.
by Matt Watson on Jan 9, 2009 3:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Real GM has Zach Randolph. If anyone finds a site with actual accurate information, feel free to pass along.
by kevin s. on Jan 9, 2009 4:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Randolph is not a FA (not even any option of any kind) according to hoopshype, ESPN and Patricia Bender (who is awesome). According to Bender, Randolph signed a six-year deal w/Portland on November 1, 2004. Obviously it was one of those deals made with essentially a year left on the previous contract. Besides, Bender makes it pretty clear that Randolph’s first contract was one of those four-year rookie deals. His rookie season was 2001-2002, so that contract would’ve ended AFTER the 2004-2005 season, and the six-year deal would begin in 2005-2006 lasting through the 2010-2011.
Rip is in a similar situation right now (minus the rookie-ness), in that his new three-year deal begins in the 2010-2011 season, not next season which is the final year of his current deal. If I’m not mistaken, the third season on Rip’s new deal has only a partial guarantee, whatever that means.
by LawyerBoy on Jan 9, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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