DetroitBadBoys 2009-10 Fantasy Basketball

Hey, I’m a big fantasy buff and I’d love to play with some fellow Pistons fans, provided there are any avaiable slots.

Playoffs:

   1. Jack Dutch (Jack Dutch) 6-3 win over Blaha’s Brigade (Garrett)
   2. Blaha’s Brigade (Garrett) 5-3 win over Small Ball Gladiator (Steve in OH)
   3. Small Ball Gladiator (Steve in OH) 5-4 win over Maxiell Day Care (Mike Payne)

Actually I was Small Ball Gladiator. Maybe this year we ought to make a post letting everyone know who’s who.

In other news, there’s a pre-season game tonight.

I’d love to hear reports from anybody who happens to be watching the game.

Letting the Memphis Grizzlies blow you out by 20 points in the freakin’ first quarter does NOT bode well for the regular season.

Just emailed, but figured I’d show my interest is legit.

can’t find any streaming links :(

Awesome. I’m exciting about real and pretend NBA basketball!

Excited. Ugh.

I’m excited to not only be one of the most involved commenters on this site, but also to be not invited for the site’s #1 fantasy league

fantastic

so, villanueva is playing tonight aye?

obviously, i am a basketball expert*. everyone should keep that in mind when they read my comments this season.

(*basketball expert/guy who was lucky enough to land the number one pick and subsequently draft chris paul. it’s a good strategy that i plan to use again this year.)

boney, you can be the john hammond to my joe d. i’ll get all the credit, and you do all the work.

Actually, a more accurate description would be both Dumars and Hammond have looked pretty shakey since their break-up.

@"T-J"
I put the hyphen in because there’s a regular here with those initials.

Hammond hasn’t done anything wrong since their “breakup” imo. Hey tried to put together a playoff team last season, and if it weren’t for injuries, we may have been a 9th seed thanks to Hammond.

The guy made a stellar team of Sessions, Redd, Jefferson, Villanueva and Bogut (potential all star from 1 to 5). Injuries and money forced Hammond to reconstruct, and honestly they are a step away from competing for that 8th spot. If they can stay healthy and bring in a strong 4 or 3 via trade, they can’t be counted out of the EC playoffs.

Meanwhile, Dumars takes a 6 time ECF team and drafts WALTER SHARPE, trades away our best player and spends the cap on a position where we’re already thick. Yeah, we’ve been over this ad nauseum, I just mean to illustrate that Hammond’s “look” is far from shakey. Dumars, on the other hand, is suspect until proven genius.

To be fair to Dumars, Hammond drafted Joe Alexander that same draft, except that he did it with the 9th pick and not the 32nd. Missing out on Anthony Randolph/Mereese Speights isn’t really the same as missing out on DeAndre Jordan or Chris Douglas Roberts.

Oh, and saying that Sessions and Jefferson are potential All-Stars is being a bit too generous. I mean, if you think about it, AI (popularity)-Mayo-Gay-Randolph-Gasol(no Shaq/Yao) is a lineup of potential all-stars 1-5 if we’re operating under those same standards. TRADE JOE NOW!

I tried to accept my invitation but it says it’s no longer valid. Boo-urns. I was hoping to luck into second place again since I clearly have no idea what I’m doing. Any one want to fight over MFWB?

Boney – If you really want to be in the A league (which I think is just a carry over from an ad hoc league last year) you can co-own my team. I’ll be Joejoejoe Maloof and you can be Boney Maloof. I have a strategy in mind to win if you want to hear it. Hint: it involves getting more fantasy points than other players.

@Thom:
Oh, and saying that Sessions and Jefferson are potential All-Stars is being a bit too generous.

Give Sessions 34 minutes a game at the point (and not split between PG and SG like he was last year), he’ll be fast-tracked to all star consideration. On the other hand, Jefferson had a career year before being traded to Milwaukee, scoring in the top 10 that year. It might be generous, and I’m a huge proponent of Sessions, but I don’t think it’s unlikely to say that Milwaukee would have been at least an 8th seed if Bogut and Redd were healthy last year.

Did I get kicked out of the league? My invite doesn’t work now. Way to hurt a guy!

Ah nevermind, I figured it out. Go Stones and such.

@Mike Payne

DAMMIT! I made my team name CV31 Barbershop and you go with Charlie’s Eyebrows. We will now fight to the death using knives.

I think I remember reading that the bucks were a few games over .500 (something like 18-15) in games where redd and bogut both played.

I would like to join…if there’s room for fantasy nubs…

OT: Jerebko has gained Wikipedia notoriety:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jonas_Jerebko&oldid=320730394#NBA

I’m interested in playing. I sent an email as well.

Count me in for fantasy league.

Yeah, I would like to take part so count me also.

Looks like Laimbeer got out while the getting was good:

http://sports.espn.go.com/wnba/news/story?id=4576647

Well, Mrs. Davidson, she sure likes the women and their baskets and balls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/wnba/news/story?id=4576647

What kills me about this is the fact that the Shock are a top basketball club.

If this is a pre-emptive salvage to get money from a soon-to-be-bankrupt league, fair enough, but you have one of the better franchises in the league … why?

What’s next, a Nashville consortium to purchase the Pistons?

I want new owners, in other words. Zero faith.

Gabe, I always thought the Shock were considered a sister to the Pistons. Granted, I hardly ever watched, and the same can be said for everyone else (they gave away Shock tickets, regular or post-season, at events almost every year) … but why are the Davidsons selling them?

Re: Why sell the Shock

My guess is Mrs. Davidson no longer wants to subsidize the Shock as money losing business. The Pistons make money. The Shock don’t and I’m guessing never did. Maybe they will in Tulsa because but they aren’t in a sports saturated Detroit market. It’s easy to justify supporting women’s sports in Detroit in boom times but when people are cutting back it’s not fair to ask the parts of your business that are carrying their own weight to prop up the parts that never have.

Let’s see the bottom line, 3j. The NBA subsidizes the teams. If the Shock lost a huge percentage the last 2-3 years even with the subsidy, fair enough, but it’s not like Mrs. Davidson is fully responsible for the Shock’s cost. The league’s salary cap is somewhere under a million dollars, so it’s not like the Shock are a giant bleeding dog of a company arm.

As for the WNBA, when your ‘dynasty’ Comets fold, and the next-best successful club, the Shock, gets sold to farmers in BFE, what does that say about the viability of the league in general? I guess the WNBA’s headed for a fall, but if it ceased operations in the near future, wouldn’t the Tulsa group sue the WNBA for fraud?

What if the Pistons lose a few million this year? Is she going to find a buyer the next day?

RE: Karen Davidson’s support for the Shock

Davidson also discussed the steady rumors about the WNBA folding.

“I don’t know,” she said while donning a white Detroit Shock basketball cap. “That’s too bad, because as a woman, I love the whole idea of it. But it’s in the summer time. It’s tough to bring people in, particularly in Michigan. We have a limited spring/summer. But it’s great basketball.”

However, she added, “I hope they keep it together. But it is an expensive undertaking for the league and the owners. We’ll see.”

Sauce1977 – Has the WNBA ever made money? The NBA has clearly made money over the long run. Whatever the operating costs are for each team, the franchise values have skyrocketed. The same can’t be said for the WNBA.

Here’s a story from Clay Kallam in Slam from 2007: "Tom Wilson, the president and CEO of Palace Sports and Entertainment, which owns and operates both the Detroit Pistons and the Detroit Shock, acknowledges that the Shock have lost six figures in some seasons and doesn’t make that much back in the good years. But it’s still well worth it. "You add up all the positives," he says, referring to Detroit’s WNBA title in ’06 and the free promotion of pro basketball and the Palace, "and ask, ‘Would I spend $300,000 or $400,000 for this kind of publicity and promotion?’ Yes. We’re not in this to make money. I’m promoting the mothership [the Pistons], and it’s helping."

http://www.slamonline.com/online/the-magazine/features/2009/10/they-still-got-next/

If the Pistons are being forced to cut back because of bad times, selling the Shock is the same thing as cutting the advertising budget. That’s Tom Wilson’s view, not mine. I’m a big fan of women’s sports and hope they succeed but the good basketball played by the Shock doesn’t necessarily translate to good business.

Note: the Shock in Tulsa where they will be coached by former Arkansas coach Nolan Richardson. I think that means Mahorn and the Shock coaches will likely be out of work.

So, are the Pistons going to spend that money on direct promotion of the Pistons, or are they just looking for buyers when the bottom line turns red? What’s Karen’s real interest? I do not trust her. I’d prefer if she sold to Detroit money that is attached to a person that cares.

Hahaha— “Detroit money”.

I bet Mahorn isn’t unemployed for too long. He did a pretty great job with a banged up squad. Maybe add him to the T-wolves staff and they could go around beating up other nba coaching staffs. In your face, mike dunlevy.

So Mike P, Bill was worth billions. Ralph Wilson lives in Detroit. Roger Penske almost tried an expensive venture that would have created a new Detroit auto company out of Saturn … Mike Ilitch funded the 4th highest payroll in the MLB, and he’s known to spend lavishly on the Wings … the Lions somehow make money most years despite being irrelevant since the late 1950s … the Ford family is still rich-rich-rich. What’s funny about Detroit money?

I want her to sell to someone I can trust. Simple as that.

@Sauce:
It was a joke.

I ain’t laughin’ when it comes to Karen Davidson.

Do you wear a tinfoil hat everywhere you go? Is it hard to condense your conspiracies with just a vapor of evidence?

I’ll take that as a “fuck you,” Mike P. Same to you, mope.

Oh relax, Sauce. Davidson is selling the Shock, not the Pistons. Don’t you think it’s a bit of a stretch to think that the Pistons are doomed, and to begin worrying about whether she’s going to sell within Detroit or not?

No, Mike, I don’t. Hello, I’m responding.

Let’s say you’re an owner. You show small token of support in September by donning a hat and calling the female version of the sport great. One month later, you’re selling your WNBA club.

That should strike you as a little disingenuous. And these are the little things.

Unless you got more tinfoil bullshit for me Mike, I’ll stop here.

Fight! Fight! Fight!