Cavaliers @ Pistons Game Thread
by Kevin Sawyer on Nov 25, 2009 5:14 PM EST
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Cleveland: 10-4 (5-2 road)
Margin: +4.1
Pistons: 5-9 (3-2 home)
Margin:-2.1
Oppo research
The Cavaliers are off to a relatively slow start, as the Shaquille O'Neal experiment appears to be extracting a predictable toll on the regular season win count. The drop in production almost entirely derives from the center position, as Big Z has responded poorly (physically) to a bench role.
Ilgauskas has long been Cleveland's second best player. His size and versatility are valuable at both ends of the court, and the Cavaliers have dropped to ninth in both offensive and defensive efficiency. Worse, the Cavs are presently relying on an untenable consistency from long range. They are shooting 44% from three point land, while holding opponents to a paltry 30%.
Without Shaq yet again, the Cavs will be forced to rely on the outside game yet again. Oh, and LeBron James, who is somehow managing to improve upon last year's production. I suppose he factors into their offense, tangentially.
The Drama:
It's hard to call it a rivalry at this point, but tonight represents a good chance to sneak in a win and reverse the course of the last five games. Also, OMGZLEBRONSPECULATIONWILLHEORWONTHENEWYOOOOOOOORK!!!!!
Keys for Detroit
Manage something from the three point range: The Pistons are shooting 31% from the three point line. For a team that generates most of it's offense from the guard positions, that's horrendous.
Stop LeBron: I don't understand why more teams don't try to do this. I should be a coach.
Get physical: With Big Z performing poorly and Shaq out for a sixth straight game, there is a good chance to get the inside game going. Of course, that prompts a question...
Question of the Game
What inside game? Nobody thought Detroit would dominate the paint, but this is ridiculous. Even Maxiell is having a terrible season.
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Let’s go Pistons! The match-up I’ll be watching closely is Sweeeeede on Lebron.
by spideymouse on Nov 25, 2009 6:02 PM EST reply actions
I just hope that if (ok when) Lebron dunks on someone tonight, he has the decency to show some regard for human life.
by Matt on Nov 25, 2009 6:12 PM EST reply actions
We’ll see… we all know he has no regard for sportsmanship.
by spideymouse on Nov 25, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions
Did anyone realize how good CV has been within 10 feet?
At the rim, Villanueva is shooting 77.0 percent and within ten feet of the basket he’s shooting at a 65.0 percent clip. Compare those numbers to other power forwards around the league that are playing as many minutes as Villanueva. The average shooting percentage at rim among those players is 63.6 percent. Within ten feet they’re shooting 46.6 percent.
by Terrence Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions
MFTL: CV31 has such a weird skill set. He does well (most of the time), but I never remember him doing anything while he’s out there. I think I remember someone else saying this a few games back as well. I kind of wish he’d do a few highlight reel plays every now and then, but I guess he’s not really a highlight reel kind of guy.
by Garrett on Nov 25, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions
@Terrence:
I’ve been impressed with his interior play, but I never saw those numbers. That’s totally unreal. I really wish we’d push his usage rate a bit, 28 minutes is far too few for CV. 34 minutes a game would be solid, which is what Rasheed was averaging in his Pistons heydey. We’d easily be getting 19 and 7 with at least one trey, steal and block per game— just like Rasheed in his heydey.
by Mike Payne on Nov 25, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions
(meaning a three pointer, a steal and a block per game, as sheed never came close to 19 points a game)
by Mike Payne on Nov 25, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions
re: AI
So I suppose I should change my fantasy team back to “Petey’s Tears”?
by Mike Payne on Nov 25, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions
I think everyone saw AI’s retirement coming. Similar to when C-Webb signed with Golden State. You just know those things won’t last.
That being said, Jason Williams did the same thing… and look, he’s playing again hah.
by mannie32 on Nov 25, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions
Amir is leading the Raptors in points right now in the second quarter. The commentators are pretty much jizzing their pants over him. Why couldn’t he play like this for us? He’s not fouling people!
by Garrett on Nov 25, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions
As much as I’d like the Raptors to fail, I hope Amir breaks out a little in the next couple seasons.
by Skylar on Nov 25, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions
link to streaming? can’t find it on atdhe and justin…
by Dafa on Nov 25, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions
link totally sucks, btw— guy’s got overlapping audio streams, not to mention it is laggy to the point of not being able to watch. anyone have a better link?
/away from home, no league pass :(
by Mike Payne on Nov 25, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions
my stream isn’t laggy but that overlapping audio is killing me…meh, it’ll have to do
by Dom on Nov 25, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions
not much better, but www.p2p4u “foreign language, choppy”
by scntfc on Nov 25, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions
Hey, weird, I can actually watch this game.
I’ve got a Bell’s Winter White in hand and FSD on the TV. Okay, “don’t suck on 3”
1… 2… 3…
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions
@other matt:
winter white? i’m totally jealous.
by Mike Payne on Nov 25, 2009 8:19 PM EST reply actions
Man, Ben Wallace’s offense is especially ugly tonight.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 8:20 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, I’m home for the first time in what feels like forever. I’ll definitely be taking a case of it back to the East Coast.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions
Alright, I don’t think I can do these dueling audio streams. I think I’m out for this one.
by Garrett on Nov 25, 2009 8:26 PM EST reply actions
Unfortunately, Lebron looks pretty locked in. The 3 guard line-up is just flat out not going to work in this game (at least when Lebron is on the court). Hopefully Kuester accepts that fact.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions
wow… dunno how that was not a foul… especially how this being called on the other end… definitely a what the fuck
by mannie32 on Nov 25, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions
Yea talk about crooked calling so far so many no calls against the pistons, while clev is getting all the calls. Typical NBA though they’ll deny it but they’ve been doing it for a while now… Put Summers in he’s like almost identical in build to lebron, so he’d prolly have a better time guarding him.
by KG on Nov 25, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Nice OBoard by Max there.
If Gibson is going to shoot this well, I don’t think we can win this game. I think we’re doing a decent job of making them settle for jump shots, but they’re just nailing them.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions
wow maxiell getting out rebounded by verajoke and Gibson only ever shows up against us… This game is a joke…
by KG on Nov 25, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions
I actually think Max has been very good tonight. Not sure what he’s done to warrant any complaints.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions
Also love the slo-mo shot of Stuckey playing D there only to get swatted/cleared by LeBron’s off arm.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions
Gordon out = Can’t wait to see who we get in the lottery of the draft… Cause we’ll probably be in the Top 5 or 10 if he goes down too…
by KG on Nov 25, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions
oh my league pass is a bit behind, i see him now on the ground… boo
by mannie32 on Nov 25, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions
Gordon please come back, please come back. I don’t want to see another one go.
by Mark on Nov 25, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, he stepped on Parker or Varajoke’s foot on his way through the lane. It looked bad, but I guess we’ll see when we come back from commercial.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions
He’s back out there to take the free throws.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:04 PM EST reply actions
and now he’s back off not good, interesting a five or five switch
by KG on Nov 25, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions
…but he missed them both badly and the wrong DaJuan committed a foul immediately to get him out. That was a really strange sequence.
What are people bitching about? We’re losing because the Cavs are on fire. I think you live with this team taking jump shots all night long. They just so happen to be knocking them all down.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions
www.rwbsports.com click the channel 4 link, decent stream, Native tongue announcers.
by scntfc on Nov 25, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions
Gordon looked pretty bad walking back to the bench.
And we look discombobulated right now. Getting spanked.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions
A couple of heat-check 3s from Williams there. I really can’t stand him.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions
Game over with the last play of the half I agree with James now we aren’t rivals anymore lol their way above us at this point…
by KG on Nov 25, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, it looks like we’re so focused on taking away their ability to get in the lane that we’re slow rotating to the open man. They’re punishing us for it.
Offensively we’re a mess. It doesn’t much matter what we do offensively if the Chief LeBronettes (Gibson and Williams) are going to hit jump shots all night.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions
At this point, I wouldn’t mind going to the lottery. If we ever want to be a contender again, we need a young star.
by Mark on Nov 25, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions
Yea I mean I hate the idea but at this point meh it’s not looking to good and we’re at home you’d think this would be at least somewhat close…
by KG on Nov 25, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions
Dude, we’re coming off of 7 years of sustained success. We were going to come down to Earth a little bit, it was inevitable. We’ve got an interesting mix of young players. We all agreed that we’d take some time to see how this team would come together. We’ve been missing our two veterans and two of our best players. Let’s give the whole group a chance to play together before we freak out. Mmmmkay?
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions
Pistons are shooting 48% and are still down 20…wow
by Kriz on Nov 25, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions
Right, even at this point, down 18 and on a 5 game losing streak I still feel pretty good about this team. We were bound to some down seasons and it looks like we have some nice pieces that with time and tweaking can become a good team.
Maybe I’m crazy.
by Kriz on Nov 25, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions
It’s not that I don’t feel good about this team. It’s just that I feel like we will need another elite player to be playoff good. Whether it’s through a trade, or free-agency. I just don’t want to finish 8th in the East, and lose in the first round. I would rather get a high draft pick at this point. We will need someone to play center, or even a quality point-guard if Stuckey can’t get it together.
I love the way this team played before the West trip, and even parts of the West coast trip. But this team is nothing more than a tough first round exit team. A team that “could” take an elite one to seven games, but not good enough to go all the way.
by Mark on Nov 25, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions
So… now can we have take-backs on dumping Spellcheck? Please?
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions
Mark, there’s something liberating about cheering for a team like that instead of being burdened with the high expectations of years past, no?
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions
Interestingly enough, Ben Wallace is shooting the highest FT% of his entire career this year. His second best? 2003-04. Coincidence? I think not. The Pistons will win a championship this season.
by Mike Payne on Nov 25, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions
You know, I kind of like this Jerebko guy. I know I’m like 3 weeks late to the party on this, but that kid is going to be really useful down the line.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions
Man, Gordon is down, too? Are the basketball gods smiting us for not keeping Spellcheck?
Seriously, why are both are $10 million SGs hurt?
by Terrence Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions
Nice move by Daye, and loving the confidence he has shown in this game. I’m gonna ignore the score at this point, and just try to look at the bright spots in the game.
by mannie32 on Nov 25, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions
@ Mark
I agree, I would rather be in the lottery than at the 8th seed.
by Kriz on Nov 25, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions
I do believe my idea of playing Daye at SG is paying off :D
This should have been done way before, to give our guards some rest. As long as our defense is solid, it gives us a very unique offense.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions
I’m actually liking what I’m seeing out of our current line-up:
Stuck/Daye/JJ/CV/Ben
They haven’t made a huge run, but the Cav’s have pretty much kept their lead solely by hitting 3’s. Hopefully the numbers start to even out a bit.
That line-up works well against teams that don’t have slashing SG’s. Daye’s length really bothers players who aren’t great off the dribble
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions
What the hell Q? Why change what was working? I do not agree with this line up change.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions
@Mark:
If we end up lottery bound and get a great pick, it’d also mean that we’d be doing poorly enough to pretty much force a trade with either Tay or Rip. A solid trade and a good lottery pick, and this team could be nasty by this time next season.
That doesn’t mean I want to see the team fail, but we’re kind of in a win/win position. If we make the playoffs, that confidence will pay dividends for this young crew next season. If we don’t, we might have some new pieces that can push this team to the next level next season.
/back to the game.
by Mike Payne on Nov 25, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions
The rotations on defense seem a little better since the half.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions
So Daye hits a shot and gets sent to the bench? Ok
by Kriz on Nov 25, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions
bmr: +9
That line-up seemed like it was on the verge of gelling and making a run. Not a fan of bringing in MFWB in that spot.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions
That is a TERRIBLE call. I hate the NBA sometimes.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions
Seriously, that lineup was actually working. I don’t get this move at all.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions
What the hell is wrong with our free throw shooting. FACK.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions
Going big is SO much more effective in a zone than going small.
Williams and Gibson killing Bynum furthers my point.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions
Of course, 13 point game again. Had Q stayed big, it would be a 6 or 7 point game.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions
I’m glad this team is fighting back. Could have easily packed it in knowing Gordon was out.
by Terrence Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions
I love that look on Mike Brown. His team is up 15 on the road, and he looks flabbergasted at the foul call. No excuse team my ass.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions
Ahh, the palace Boos. How I have missed thee.
Has anyone else noticed how quiet the palace has been this year? It was like the Shock were playing.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
How do you give those fouls to the Cavs when they’re up by 14 on the road? I hate our chap David.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions
Nice shot by Rodney. I don’t understand him, he makes some very difficult off balance shots, and yet is can’t finish layups?
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions
It’s just luck of the draw with these injuries. It’s like, imagine if we kept Afflalo and didn’t sign Wilcox, and instead of losing Prince, Hamilton, and potentially Gordon, we lost Villanueva, Wallace, and Prince. So we’d be starting Maxiell and Brown. We’d be losing our minds and calling for Joe’s head.
Honestly, Dumars can’t plan his moves based on who’ll get injured every year.
by Terrence Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions
wtf? jason williams with 25 points, 8 assists, 3 rebounds and a steal tonight hah
by mannie32 on Nov 25, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions
Bynum needs to stop shooting tonight. Daye was open on the wing and Will has just been really off so far.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions
We need to get Stuckey back in the game immediately. I think he’s been pretty good tonight and Bynum has just been a little off.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions
Amir Johnson w/ 13 and 8 in 23 mins., they got spanked by Charlotte though. Charlotte has been putting up some high scores since they acquired Captain Jack.
by scntfc on Nov 25, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions
What the fuck is wrong with Max? He’s missed 2 shots in a row from about an inch away from the basket.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions
Kuester is really confusing me. Our best lineup without a doubt has been Stuck/Daye/JJ/CV/Big Ben. Why is he not going back to that with LB out of the game? Or at least a similar lineup, except with Kwame instead of Ben?
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions
And a quick look at the box confirms, Stuckey has been 9 points better than Bynum tonight.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions
OM:
Stuckey’s also had the privilege of playing with a normal line-up. I’m pretty sure every minutes Bynum’s been on the court he’s either been part of the 3 guard line-up, or in a backcourt with Stuckey (which would seem to be counterproductive for both of them). He’s shot like crap though, no excuse for that.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions
And LeBron tosses cold water on the notion that this might actually turn into a game. Bastard.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions
I have to give LeBron some credit, his jumper looks close to perfect now. Perhaps that mean Stuckey has some hope towards becoming a good shooter.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions
Wow! the box score says Daye and Kwame are our only players w/ +s this game…
by scntfc on Nov 25, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions
LEbron just shat on the Pistons and the city of Detroit with that dunk…
by KG on Nov 25, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions
lebrom is such a good sport. he demands the refs give him the and one. that is the code.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 25, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions
Uh-oh. We pissed off Lebron. That’s pretty much game over.
Lebron is slowly entrenching himself on the list of players who I will always actively root against- right alongside KG and Kobe.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions
The way Bynum is looking, I suspect his injury is worse than he let on.
Which means we have 3 injured guards. How the hell would you plan for three injured guards? Not even Spellcheck could save that.
by Terrence Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions
lebran would make a great running back the way he tucked the ball and ran to the hole. how many steps? it seemed a lot. i am really upset the way he got fouled and no call. outrageous.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 25, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions
LOL- okay, so Lebron can officially take as many steps as he wants without it being a travel.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions
labron should file a complaint. he has been singled out ever since he confirmed his good sportmanship last spring.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 25, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions
the travel is besides the point. he was so fouled. it just isn’t right.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 25, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Stuckey might need to chill out with those hard drives. If he gets hurt too… I’m not sure if I’d be able to watch the carnage of a MFWB/Atkins PG rotation.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions
I brought up at the start of the season, you could tell in the preseason that Stuckey wants to be the leader of this team. I think his attitude and work ethic is definitely showing. This game should not have even been under 20 after Gordon went out.
But are you kidding me Charlie? How the fuck do you miss that?
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions
what did caron butler call it? the crab cake? crab dribble? i guess that was something else?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 25, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions
This team is scrappy. I can live with scrappy. Because you can always add talent to heart. It’s harder to do it the other way around.
by Terrence Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions
Caron Butler: The crab dribble is when you, uh, travel.
by Terrence Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions
Stuckey finally shooting 50%. Great to see!
This team does play with a ton of heart despite injuries.
by Mark on Nov 25, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions
Exactly. Thus because LeBron clearly did not travel, that was no the crab dribble, but in fact the hammer slide.
Once again, Stuckey keeping us in the game.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions
Don’t tell me Cleveland will have cost us two more key players. Charlie looks like he’ll be able to play tonight, but he’ll definitely feel it tomorrow.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions
Tonight has been the perfect example of how when Stuckey makes some shots on his drives, suddenly the refs start giving him the benefit of the doubt on some foul calls.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions
This team is scrappy. I can live with scrappy. Because you can always add talent to heart. It’s harder to do it the other way around.
very well put Mr. Lynch.
by scntfc on Nov 25, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions
Fucking b.s. Refs letting the Cav’s get away with murder… And of course they only call a foul to put Big Ben on the line. Such horseshit.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions
That was a clear foul and he got no call on the last drive. So he’s getting more respect, but he’s still not getting even 1/3 of what Wade or Le-I’ma-run-over-you-and-suck-David-Stearn’s-dick-Bron.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions
nice effort tonite, at least we won the 3rd qtr.
by scntfc on Nov 25, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions
About time we get a call. But still, the disgusting thing is that this could have been a winnable game even after Gordon went out.
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions
blaha is calling it what it is. lebrom is so upset with the refs and how they missed those fouls on stuckey.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 25, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions
This is a man-sized effort from Stuckey. This game right here is why people consider Stuckey to have the brighter future. He got hammered on a drive with a chance to cut it to 4 and got no call. He was tremendous tonight. I just wish he’d have continued to be assertive down the stretch seeing as how he was the main reason we were in this thing until the end. I’m very impressed.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions
Once again, Kuester had me confused. As good as a job Jonas did on LeBron, why not play Summers on LeBron more than a few minutes in the first and at the end of the fourth?
by bmr on Nov 25, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions
Stuckey played great. He timed his aggressive drives intelligently, and used his strength to power through defenders and square himself to the basket- something he doesn’t always do. 0 assists though, but he played SG most of the second half.
by Gabe on Nov 25, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions
Stuckey was let down by everybody else’s general offensive ineptness. I thought he made several nice passes or good kick-outs only for us to come up empty. That’s why I think he should’ve continued to assert himself down the stretch, because nobody else could do anything. If we hit a couple of the open looks he generated, that’s a different ending.
by Other Matt on Nov 25, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions
With about a minute left (down by 7) we cleared out for Stuck on the Left wing and his man just sagged about 5 feet off of him. We really needed a three or a very quick two, but ended up using up most of the clock and Bynum missed a 20 footer. I don’t really understand the call. They dared Stuckey to shoot and he didn’t. If we had run a pick and pop with CV or had a shooter on the baseline, Stuckey would have had the option to hit someone for a three. I’m generally happy with Keuster but some of our late game strategy has been puzzling.
Also, it’s getting frustrating to keep losing games like this. Good effort, though. I can totally seeing our season being like this. We fall in a huge hole and then valiantly charge back only to fall just short at the end of the season and get the worst odds in the lottery.
by Colin on Nov 25, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions
Honestly, there’s not much we can do right now. Ask any team with two key players injured to win games against some of the best in the league. It’s tough going, and it’s something we’re not used to due to our teams being regularly healthy. This is why a lot of teams struggle early on and turn it around in the second half: injuries.
I don’t want to get buried early, either, but the schedule was already tough to begin with. It would have been a struggle just to be at .500 at the end of this month.
Fate is not dealing us very good cards right now.
by Terrence Lynch on Nov 25, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions
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