Joe D do-over
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 25, 2009 2:13 AM EST
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Players: Detroit, New York, Houston, Indiana
Detroit Gets:Danny Granger
Jordan Hill
Jermaine Taylor
Eddy Curry
Jared Jeffries
Ben Gordon
Charlie Villanueva
Kwame Brown
Chris Wilcox
Austin Daye
Jonas Jerebko
2011 protected 1st round pick
New York Gets:
Tracy McGrady
Kwame Brown
Chris Wilcox
Earl Watson
Chuck Hayes
Eddy Curry
Jared Jeffried
Jordan Hill
David Lee
Danilo Gallinari
Nate Robinson
2010 protected 1st round pick
2011 2nd round pick
2013 2nd round pick
Houston Gets:
Ben Gordon
Charlie Villanueva
Austin Daye
David Lee
2011 2nd round pick from New York
2013 2nd round pick from New York
Tracy McGrady
Chuck Hayes
Jermaine Taylor
Indiana Pacers Get:
Danilo Gallinari
Jonas Jerebko
Nate Robinson
2010 protected 1st round pick from New York
2011 protected 1st round pick from Detroit
Danny Granger
Earl Watson
Why Detroit would do it:
Some people in Detroit believe in Championship by Committee. I believe in Championship by Star-Player. Danny Granger is a budding top 5 NBA player. For Detroit, this is the biggest piece of the puzzle. Then you look at Jordan Hill, who's done nothing thus far, but still has great "potential". Hill would basically become Joe's 2010 first round pick.
Now for the appeasing. In order for Detroit to grab Granger and Hill, Joe has to take on the salaries of Eddy Curry and Jared Jeffries. Yeah they suck, but their contracts only last another 1.5 years.
If everything went to shit for Detroit, in the summer of 2011, they would only have $32.4 mil committed to 4 players: Stuckey, Hamilton, Granger, and Maxiell.
Or, even if all didn't go to hell, Joe could try to flip all that expiring paper before the deadline next year.
A depth chart would look like so:
Rodney Stuckey/ Will Bynum/ Chucky Atkins
Richard Hamilton/ Jermaine Taylor
Danny Granger/ Tayshaun Prince/ Dejuan Summers
Jason Maxiell/ Jordan Hill/ Jared Jeffries
Ben Wallace/ Eddie Curry
Simple. They get tons of cap space, thus tons of attention until summer. Plus, they get it in the way of T-Mac/ticket sales. Oh yeah, and Nate Robinson is taken off their hands...
Why Houston would do it:They flip T-Mac into talent. Yeah, it's not the star they could "potentially" get if they held on to his expiring contract, but it is a breadth of young talent. It gives them a chance to win Now. This Year. David Lee will fill in Yao's spot for the year and be gone by early July. Perfect so long Yao can come back next season.
Why Indiana would do it:This one is a little trickier. The main reason is taxes. Indiana is projected to be over the tax line next year with a non-playoff team and no real identity. So how could you convince Larry to start over? How about a young Gallinari with lots of "potential" + another white guy with some talent + a nationally adored guy that got benched for no reason in NYC. Throw in 2 first round picks, protected in some way -probably top 3, and Larry has a great foundation for rebuilding. Indiana will have cap space either way for the 2011 summer, but it is probably easiest for the Pacers to take talent via trades and draft than lure a top flight free agent to come there.
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Good effort
But we’re still left with the same old problem, no frontcourt except now we have 1 really good all-around scorer instead of 3. Not sure if this really makes us better. I’d stick with our current squad.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
Except we’d have two more expiring contracts next year along with Prince’s to steal a big guy away from a mediocre team facing the tax threshhold (cough)New Orleans(cough).
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 25, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
im hoping that new orleans is sucking by the trade deadline
and wants the cut salary and just blow their squad up. hopefully we could pry okafor away from them in that situation.
N.O. would get off if someone would take okafor for free. You can’t do a favor for someone so clearly in a position of weakness. It’s Chris Paul or bust.
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 26, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
i cant see n.o. letting chris paul go no matter how dire their finances are
he’s the franchise player. thats basically the gm saying please fire me. okafor is a possibility though.
that is probably the least plausible situation (adhering to cap restrictions) you could ever think of… Danny Granger a budding top 5 star? Who do you remove from this list… Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Bosh, D.Howard… Not to mention Dirk, K.G., Gasol, Paul, Brandon Roy, Deron Williams, Durant, Melo… you get the picture… Besides whatever kind of talent he is, he is still Indiana’s best option long term, they don’t have the kind of talent to bait a trade for even a difference maker such as Jamison or D.West to even make them competitive anyways… And does Detroit really want a nucleus of Granger, Hamilton and Stuckey and pray the Jordan Hill becomes anything?
Interesting.......
Houston gives up McGrady and gets Gordon Charlie and David Lee?
by JC no1 pistons fan on Dec 28, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions
this scenario may become completely irrelevant
there is a a growing sentiment that curry is going to be bought out by the knicks if they can figure out what to do about his option for next year.
Honestly, I didn't even read it.
The first 47-player trade in league history!
Super perfundo on the early eve of your day.
by TDP on Dec 29, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
There’s not one player that we’d receive in that trade that excites me. Danny Granger can score, for sure, but we’re left with a bunch of suckage after that.
There’s not one person that excites me on our current roster, and we have three large long term contracts.
This is obviously hypothetical, but i’m basically saying I’d rather have Danny Granger and 4 D-leaguers than CV31, Ben Gordon, Wilcox, Kwame, and Daye.
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
yeah but you also throw in Jerebko. And I’d rather have Jerebko than Danny Granger EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK BABY!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Feb 18, 2010 10:58 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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