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TIME TO REBUILD

First of all this is my first post on Motown String Susic. I'm living in Portland and have adopted the Blazers UNLESS they play the Stones. 

Moving on.....This should be an exciting time to be a Pistons fan.

Right now we have a fresh start and options to turn this around. The most important concern at hand is money. We have plenty of it. As much as it sucked trading Chauncey Billups, it was a hell of a move by Joe Dumars. In my opinion the season was over when we traded Chauncey for AI and Joe Dumars knew that the moment he made the trade. He also knew with Chauncey we would probably have lost again to Cleveland in the playoffs eventually, if it wasn’t the first round.
 
Dumars played on a dominate team that held it’s core together for too long and suffered the consequences of not making the playoffs for the years after. With that experience he learned that you have to bite the bullet, and make moves even if it means taking your team out of contention for a year. AI’s worth to the team will finally be valued now that his contract is expired and it’s 15 mil is off the books. 
 I love 'Sheed, he helped us get that 'Ship, but his time is up too. I wish he would have gone out with a little more dignity, but oh well; I wish him all the best and I’m going to thank him for that other 15 mil off the books.

Looking at how Chauncey is performing in the playoffs people are understandibly questioning Joey D's logic....well I think he was looking at the situation monetarily.

$$$$$ AI vs. Billups $$$$$$
 
AI
08-09: $20,840,625
09-10: $0….FREE AGENT
vs.
Chauncey
08-09: $11,050,000
09-10: $12,100,000
10-11: $13,150,000
11-12: $14,200,000
 
So when you are rebuilding and you can get 20 mil off the books this year and then save...drum roll....$39,450,000 over the next three years as well. Wow.

Add AI’S $20,840,625 + 'Sheed's $13,930,000 you have $34,770,625 of free cap space.
 
That’s great GM work, if you ask me.
 
Joey D has forsight or you could call it court vision, and he knew what he had can’t get it done. He understood his ship was slowly sinking, so instead of patching it over and over again, he traded Chauncey and went down with the ship so to say. Now he has some money and he’s about to build another ChampionSHIP….it’s a pun, I couldn’t help myself.

source: http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/08-09salaries.htm

I invite you all to click on that link showing players salaries. It will really open your eyes to the other part of the league (look at Agent 0's contract, at least we aren't stuck with something like that).  We have flexibility.

Now is the fun part.  Lets research contracts, free agents, and all try to put some rosters together. We are starting over fresh, there will be that initial drop, and then we will start to get better and better, and the excitement will come back. Watching a team grow up before your eyes is awesome, we got to experience that, watching a team die sucks and we just experienced that too. The life cycle is complete on these boys, and now the rebirth cycle will begin and we will watch a new group grow up.

UPDATE: Dave Dial of MLIVE was nice enough to step in and do some number crunching that was initially overlooked. Many thanks to Mr. Dial for pointing this out:

The amount of money coming off doesn’t equal the cap space the Pistons have. So when you write:

Add AI’S $20,840,625 + ’Sheed’s $13,930,000 you have $34,770,625 of free cap space.

It’s not really the case. If you go to the link you gave, it will show how much the Pistons have in committed salary.

http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/08-09salaries.htm

I have a slightly different number, because I have Maxiell making a little over 4.4 million his first season of his extension, with an increasing contract over the length. Storytellers has the contract at 5 million each season. That’s not the way players usually sign, but they could be right.

In any case, Storytellers has the Piston committed salary at 40.4 million, which is around 19 million under the current cap. I have it at around 39.5, around 20 million under the current cap. Most experts predict the cap will go down this season, and they may be right. I do doubt it goes down much, but let’s say it shrinks to 37.5 million, which still gives the Pistons around 17-18 million in cap space.

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Thanks for posting NKing

I think you’re right on. Now it’s just a matter of whether or not we can make it money well spent. I urge everyone to come up with hypo FA signings/trades/drafts that could help make this team a winner again in the very near future. This is the beauty of SB Nation in that it allows fans to use it as their own blog and post their thoughts in a way where they will be heard and can be commented on. Thanks again NKing.

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by Packey on Apr 27, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Time To Rebuild

YES. AI, Sheed, Dyess, will all be gone not to mention Tay may not be back. We have seen what we have in Amir which is not a lot. Will Bynum, and Aflalo are the only 2 really worth bringing back. Stuckey will be a good pg, but I doubt if he will ever live up to the Past hall of famers before him Isiah, and Chauncey. His decision making is suspect, along with his jumper. I heard the announcer say he’s a scoring pg, then they went on to say that so was Chauncey early in his career, but Chauncey could pull it from anywhere on the court so that comparison was ridiculous. I have been a Piston fan, and will continue to be, but I think that Chauncey trade will haunt us for years to come. N the sad part that’s only half of it Michael Curry has to go, he couldnt get the team to respond to anything he did all season…N to add insult to injury wasnt he the same one talking I will keep Sheed in check when he 1st got here?? We saw what happened with that. Sheed missed 2 weeks or so n still lead the league in techs.

by Sumbodybettatellum on Apr 27, 2009 10:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

To be honest...

I’d like it if we kept Dyess and Prince. I think Dyess has proven that he is still at the top of his game if not better this year. Plus he only wants to play in Detroit, see if we can give him a severe pay cut. Prince may not be back, but he’s always been a reliable defender and always is on the court.

by ZWC11 on May 3, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 year process

Detroit will be back on top with the right moves in just two years. First, sign a big free agent this year, or maybe two very good players. Then, use Tayshaun Prince as bait to trade Hamilton away, preferably for an expiring contract and draft picks. Then, by summer of 2010, Detroit will have loads of cap room to make a run at a free agent, the free agent talent signed the year before, and guys like Stuckey, Maxiell, Bynum, and Johnson with one more year of experience. What’s not to like? It sucks having to shed Prince, and there’s no guarantee the young guys mature as well as hoped, but to be good you have to be willing to sacrifice and take risks.

by Matt78777 on Apr 30, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

First off, here is a list of FA's I find interesting to the Pistons...

Von Wafer, Leon Powe, Glen Davis, Zaza Pachulia, Brandon Bass, Chris Anderson, Steve Novak, Lamar Odom, Jamario Moon, Chris Wilcox, Drew Gooden, Shawn Marion, Paul Millsap.

Check out nickandroll.blogspot.com

by n1ck34 on May 2, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's my scenario...

To be honest with you, I don’t see the Pistons throwing money around this off-season. They, like every other team, are waiting until 2010. However, here is what I would like to see the Pistons do this offseason, assuming Sheed and AI both leave, and we resign Maxiell and McDyess, collectively costing us around 8 mil. I am not sure how long we should sign each of these guys for, but one year rentals would be nice.

For three point shooting, we add Von Wafer, signing him for 5 mil a year
To start at C, at least for now, we add Zaza Pachulia, signing him for 6 mil a year
To share time with Maxiell, we add Paul Millsap, signing him for around 7-8 mil a year.

What do ya think

Check out nickandroll.blogspot.com

by n1ck34 on May 2, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

While I thought the same thing originally, after hearing Dumars’ press conference and reading Keith Langlois’ blog, it sounds more and more like Dumars is going to be spending the cap space this summer. How much I guess depends on who is interested in actually signing and what kind of trades we might be able to pull off.

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by Packey on May 2, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

I would actually support us making most of our moves this offseason. Granted, there aren’t as many star players, but I think we can find solid role players to plug in to our system. Waiting til 2010 is really gonna backfire for a bunch of teams, and then they will have to rebuild again. Millsap is my favorite FA this offseason, and adding him would be huge

Check out nickandroll.blogspot.com

by n1ck34 on May 3, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey NKing and Packey

Nice article and outlook towards the future.

One thing though, the amount of money coming off doesn’t equal the cap space the Pistons have. So when you write:

Add AI’S $20,840,625 + ’Sheed’s $13,930,000 you have $34,770,625 of free cap space.

It’s not really the case. If you go to the link you gave, it will show how much the Pistons have in committed salary.

http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/08-09salaries.htm

I have a slightly different number, because I have Maxiell making a little over 4.4 million his first season of his extension, with an increasing contract over the length. Storytellers has the contract at 5 million each season. That’s not the way players usually sign, but they could be right.

In any case, Storytellers has the Piston committed salary at 40.4 million, which is around 19 million under the current cap. I have it at around 39.5, around 20 million under the current cap. Most experts predict the cap will go down this season, and they may be right. I do doubt it goes down much, but let’s say it shrinks to 37.5 million, which still gives the Pistons around 17-18 million in cap space.

by Dave Dial on May 3, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not as optimistic as others

Boozer, and Gordon are not upgrades to what we had. Joe needs to pulls trades and I am willing to guess 85% of the roster will be changed. There isnt 1 or 2 impact players out there that can help this team turn around quickly, and I am praying Mcgrady isnt one of the superstar players being targeted.

When angry, count four; when very angry, swear. ~Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson, 1894

by Leapin Lion on May 5, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

We would like to get Prince somehow.

And no we won’t trade Brandon Roy for him.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on May 14, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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