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We Could Play the "What If" Game All Day...

As I was watching highlights of Denver's 58 point slaughtering of New Orleans, I couldn't help but feel nostalgic.  I'm sure every single Pistons fan has seen clips of this series and wondered, "What if we still had Chauncey Billups?" 

I wasn't, though.   Not this time, at least.

I already know the answer to that.  I saw it the past few seasons.  Nothing about this season would have changed with Chauncey except for the fact that we may have lasted a little longer in the playoffs due to a better seeding and from having one better player.  Joe wouldn't have traded him if he thought things would have been any different from the past few seasons.

Instead, I was sitting in my best David/Chris Paul pose thinking a little unorthodox.  I was pondering, "What if we never drafted Tayshaun Prince?" 

Ironically enough, the guys the Pistons may be pursuing this summer are guys they could have had via past drafts.  

In lieu of Tayshaun at the No. 23 spot in the 2002 NBA Draft, the Pistons could have drafted Utah's Carlos Boozer (he was drafted by Cleveland at No. 35). 

Never drafting Tayshaun then frees up the small forward position in 2003 when we drafted Darko Milicic.  We could have a number of guys instead, most notably Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, and Dwyane Wade.

Well, I think we'd all rather have a 7-foot pole than Darko Milicic at that pick in hindsight, but it's frustrating to know we could have had some of these guys we may now be pursuing.  It's even more frustrating to see Tayshaun, who never really developed past 2005, most likely at the end of the road in Detroit.

Assume we drafted Boozer in 2002, then Anthony in 2003, and still made the Rasheed trade in 2004; we'd probably still have Chauncey on our team and a couple more banners in the rafters.  I don't think we make the 'Sheed trade if we drafted Boozer and Bosh in consecutive years, so that's a good way of looking at it; that not drafting one of them was a good thing. 

But can you imagine how good a team of Bosh/Boozer, Anthony, 'Sheed, Billups, and Hamilton would be? What if Mehmet Okur stuck around, too?  I think we're seeing how good an energized Billups and Anthony can be in Denver right now (and that's not meant to take anything away from Denver's other players).

Of course, we could play this game all day --and I think it's a fun game-- but in reality it's not going to change anything.  I have to realize that and so do other Pistons fans.  Lamenting on Joe's draft pick in 2003, or any other year for that matter, won't change what's happened. 

As I've said before, the Pistons were still the best team in the Eastern Conference for the past decade, despite our 20/20 hindsight revealing we potentially could have been even better.  Yeah, it's frustrating we're actually pursuing guys we could have already had.  Instead of having them to add to our current mix, we're going to be making an exchange (if we even get any of them). It's frustrating, but c'est la vie.

That being said, I'm really looking forward to this off-season and playing some "what if" games we can actually execute in the future and not "what if" games we can only sit back and make up history that never was and never will be.

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Interesting take.

Too bad hindsight is always so 20/20. But the Pistons had a great run despite what could have been. With Joe D at the helm, something tells me you won’t be down and out for long.

by sonofjuannieboy on Apr 28, 2009 10:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hindsight's 25/20

easy to look back and make right decisions etc. but I think the point is made

by Detroit4lyfe on Apr 28, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chauncey probably needed to be

Out of Detroit to feel invigorated and play with the chip on his shoulder that he has been playing with this entire year with the Nuggets. I dont know if that happens if he is still in Detroit.

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by Wasabi Steak on Apr 28, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I definitely agree

that he has been playing with a chip on his shoulder since the trade to Denver. That being said, I was just wondering “what if” we had those other players, if we would have won more championships (if any at all) and if that would have motivated the bunch to continue to play hard through and through. Another good “what if” is had we won the NBA championship in 2005, would Larry Brown still be around? As the title suggests, we could play this all day, but we need to start playing the “what if” game for the future….

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by Packey on Apr 28, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off Topic

But I see you dropped the B, Mr. Packey.

Is this a P. Diddy thing or just trying to class the joint up a little bit?

by ReichardZ on Apr 28, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see it that way

but now that you mention it, it was 100% a P. Diddy thing. haha I figured BPackey isn’t my name so I might as well drop the B. No reason to have people calling me BPackey when no one in my entire life has ever called me that. So I went with what people tend to call me, my last name.

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by Packey on Apr 29, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Way

Tayshaun is one of the reason they one in ‘04. I don’t think any other player in the league would have hustled down and made that block on Reggie Miller. Not one!!

by antontg on Apr 29, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The beauty of "what if"

What if we had someone who could score more than Tayshaun? We wouldn’t even had needed that block.. I think that’s the point I was trying to make…we could play that game all day long, but it does us no good anymore.. let’s focus on the future now.

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by Packey on Apr 29, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if?

The problem with your speculation is that Prince has won and was a big part of winning a championship. The only one of those you mentioned (Boozer, Bosh, Carmelo, etc…) who has done the same was Dwayne Wade and he had a lot of help in Shaq. The better question, to me, would have been what would have happened if the Pistons decided to re-sign Mehmet Okur and not Rasheed Wallace at the end of the championship season? Mehmet has averaged 16 and 8 per game vs Wallace’s 13 and 7 since that decision. He has outshot Rasheed percentage-wise both from inside and beyond the 3-pt line each year, except his first in Utah from the 3-pt line, and he does not have the melt down and technical foul issues that Rasheed has. I gave up my season tickets 2 years ago because I got sick of Rasheed’s BS. He gives 60% effort!

by Piston Fan on Apr 29, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that's a valid what if...

But would Okur have been able to put up those numbers in Detroit, where Billups and Rip were a far better 1-2 scoring punch than what Utah has had? Probably not. In fact, in 2005-2006, Okur led the Jazz in scoring with 18 points per game which would have been good for only third on the Pistons; assuming he got a chance to score that much. 16 and 8 is not far off from 13 and 7 anyway. That’s one extra three-pointer and an extra rebound a game.

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by Packey on Apr 29, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who says

if we drafted Boozer and Melo that we even win a championship in the first place? I don’t want to get down to specific plays, but it takes special chemistry to win a championship, especially against a team like that Lakers squad we beat in 2004. Maybe Melo, Boozer, and Rip don’t mesh well (you see what happened with Rip and A.I.). Maybe the team doesn’t get the same motivational boost it got with the Sheed trade. There’s too many things that could have changed. Although he hasn’t developed like we’ve wanted, I’m very happy we drafted Tay because he helped us win a championship and put together a very successful decade, and his career isn’t even over yet. Even if he starts to decline he will still be a great mentor to the younger players on the team. I think he needs to step up to be the new leader of this team, something that was sorely lacking this past year.

by handsomerob1 on Apr 29, 2009 11:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

With the RIP AI thing Rip never gave AI a chance he was so hurt by Chauncey being traded he didnt know what to do without him, no matter who they wouldve brought in wouldve gotten the cold shoulder. I think AI was more upset by not being embraced by his new team. I dont blame him these guys are professionals and make more $ then we will make in our life time, suck it up and keep moving. Joe is in a tight spot if he cant get an upgrade of talent at EVERY position then we will be mediocre for the next 4/5 years.

by Sumbodybettatellum on Apr 30, 2009 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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