Lies…

Firstard!

I hope to god he doesn’t.

He doesn’t.

However, it could be true. You normally wouldn’t believe they’re going to blow up the moon, either.

If Dumars is in love with UConn shooting guards I’d rather just sign old Ray Allen when he’s a free agent in 2010. And speaking of FA Celtics, I’d take a look at unrestricted FA Leon Powe who has knee trouble. You might be able to get a McDyess type bargain by signing the guy when he is hurt and trusting him to rehab. Young rotation players on championship teams are good to have on your team.

Dammit, Matt— you may have just cursed us. Do you know you’re 2 for 2 when covering a rumored “promise”?

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-08/did-the-pistons-make-a-promise-to-rodney-stuckey/

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-27/have-the-pistons-made-a-promise-to-dj-white/

And we ended up drafting both. If we end up signing Ben Gordon, it’s your ass!!

You can redeem yourself by posting “Have the Pistons made a promise to Carlos Boozer”, “Has Carlos Boozer’s knee made a promise to the Pistons”, “Have the Pistons made a promise to Marcin Gortat” and “Has Michael Curry made a promise to Bebounds”.

I will probably lose a lot of interest in this team if we sign Gordon. He’s just not that good. He’s not an upgrade over Rip, except with respect to 3-point shooting and age.

Nicely done MFMP.

“Sam Smith, who’s never been shy to chuck a handful of feces against the wall to see what sticks…” – nice turn of phrase..

You could learn a thing or two from feces, and walls.

Actually, this would not bother me too much, as long as we trade Rip and not expect him to play SF. (Although I would personally like to see Tay go more.) BUT, with this, Dumars can trade Rip and something for Boozer, Bosh, Kaman, or Camby. I would be happy with either Boozer or Bosh just because of the flexibility it would give next summer. Plus, there is still about 7-8 million to use to sign a center ala Gortat.

I am far from sold on Boozer, but a one year trial run is not a bad thing, especially with his, Kwame’s, and Amir’s expring contracts next summer. Same with Bosh. Add that Gordon is still pretty young, and I like this move for the future.

Plus, its better to sign first and then trade. And Gordon gives a little trade flexibility, since Rip could conceivably play the 3. (But please, no.)

Of course, I would prefer Hedo + a Tay trade, but you can’t have everything. At least Dumars is doing it early, so we can find out what is going on. (IF its true.)

Actually, I am now remembering that Hedo is 30. I KNEW there was a downside to the signing him for 5 years…

“I also heard that Gordon’s agent allegedly has been saying”

Could that possibly be MORE “hedged”? Indeed, what is the word “allegedly” doing in that sentence, besides emphasizing the hedging in a way that’s not just redundant but technically inaccurate? I mean, what sense does it make to say you “heard” that somebody is “allegedly” doing something?

I don’t want to be a pedant, but he’s really just trying to say, "I’ve heard that Gordon’s agent said. . . ", and apparently say it extra-cautiously.

Oh, and I don’t want Gordon, I want two quality bigs.

Oh, and I don’t want Gordon, I want two quality bigs.

TF for president (of Det basketball operations)

ben not just SHORT, but also likes SHOOT alot. bull jordan would be GOOD deal, but bull gordon NOT so good. just epinion

they were talking about this deal alot today on the ticket, valenti seemed to think that signing gordon would somehow help facilitate a chris bosh deal, though i didn’t hear how that would happen. valenti seemed to think this gordon deal is a done deal, i however think this is just some bull pucky. no way joe d over pays that much for gordon. i think gordon and his agent are throwing that number out there to see what kinda reaction it gets.

I am going to wade through every thread discussing even the most unlikely trade or FA acquisition this off-season on this blog, just on the chance that I can see yet another gem from coachDP like the one above.

iI am going to wade through every thread discussing even the most unlikely trade or FA acquisition this off-season on this blog, just on the chance that I can see yet another gem from coachDP like the one above./i

Please, please, please post your findings for us all… or at least me :)

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I just lol’d at that.

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That is rich.

I just learned how to do not this this too! Fuckin sweet. Soon I’ll be able to apply for those interweb master jobs I always see on craigslist!!!

Hands brgulker his ’s

Why’d they take my ’s away?

Boing

The Pistons would be retarded if they did this.

Gordon is a great sixth man. Put him in the starting lineup and his shitty defense and inability to tell a good shot from a bad one would become even more apparent. Compare that to Rip, a good defender who rarely takes bad shots and is always efficient with the ball. Gordon is the anti-Rip. Hell, he’s even 5 inches shorter to boot.

All that for 11 million a year? Only if Millen takes over the Pistons.

Whats is this? I awake from hibernation to see rumours of poo flinging and Ben Gordon? If Gordon agrees to undergo that bone lengthening treatment and gets maybe to eight feet, I might consider him. As for our second round picks, we need that 7-2 aussie bloke, Luke Nevill.

How is everyone, by the way? Super.

I said it before: I wish I could write my dissertation using the logic of sportswriters. It would save me time doing, you know, research.

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OT, but I don’t know if anyone else thought was funny AND sad: Phil Jackson tells LA fans to celebrate “creatively, not destructively.” Riots ensue.

Gordon’s know as a streaky shooter for no damn reason, to be honest. Last season, Gordon had 40 games where he shot 45% or less in 82 games played. In other words, he shot less than 45% 48.8% of games played. While that may seem like a high number, check this out:

Richard Hamilton – 36 games (67 games played) or 53.7% of games played.

Kobe Bryant – 35 games (82 games played) or 42.7% of games played.

Joe Johnson – 44 games (79 games played) or 55.7% of games played.

So he’s not nearly as “streaky” as people make him out to be.

“the death of a dynasty” starring joe dumars and curry man with guess appearances from ben gordan and carlos boozer. a true story base on rodney suckey. don’t miss it, it will bring you to tears!!!!

@Joel:
Soon I’ll be able to apply for those interweb master jobs I always see on craigslist!!!

What, peeing on fat dudes for food stamps? And the cocaine?

@TJ:
you lost me at hello.

BTW, even with the Ben Gordon rumors, this takes the cake as the most retarded shit I’ve read all day:
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/59885/20090618/jefferson_for_stoudemire_in_the_works/

There isn’t a 4/5 in the entire league I’d want more than Jefferson, and I’d trade two Stoudamire’s (and the apostrophes) to get him. REEMOTHERTOUCHINGTARDEDANDAHALFMCIAFI.

Chris Bosh:
I don’t know what the future holds. What might be good today may not be good tomorrow. I guess it’s a lot of fun for some people because it’s speculation. It’s thousands of possibilities because there are going to be a lot of free agents that year.

Well, technically, there are only 30 possibilities. FBCB. (the first “b” is for “bagina”)

This could turn out to be a worse decision than trading CB for “the question”…

Ummm…Sam..isn’t that “tampering”? Just sayin’…

I don’t see this either, the CW being that Dumars doesn’t overpay players.

@ MP: the thing I don’t get is trading Jefferson for Amare and Amare’ is a FA next year and will walk from Minny. It’s not only retarded shit, it’s fucking retarded. Of course, you send Shaq to Clev and it will up the middle for Jefferson. Where does Love play? A 6’8" non jumping white center? Kudos to Steve Kerr if he can pull this off.

As many of said and I’ll chime in: If BG didn’t “get” defense with Sparty Skile in Chi-town, he sure as hell isn’t going for find it here.

MP, I feel just the same way about Jefferson. And they’re considering putting in the #6 pick as well??? Even given the fact that Amare can walk after a year? That is crazy.

A healthy Al is better than Amare straight-up. He’s got a post game, he plays D, he’s tough as nails, and he’s a true leader. He’s also very young still.

There are 3 possibilities here:

1. The report is nonsense. This is the likeliest scenario.

2. Al Jefferson’s injury was much worse than it seemed at the time, and Minnesota knows something the rest of the league doesn’t know yet.

3. Minnesota’s management continues to be among the least competent in the NBA, and doesn’t understand what it has in Al Jefferson. If Al can be had so cheaply, Joe Dumars MUST get on the phone immediately and trade for him, before this terrible deal can happen! Do whatever it takes. Apparently it shouldn’t take very much.

Is it possible that Minny is just dumping salary? Al is signed through 2012/13, though his contract isn’t crazy: $12M next year, going up by $1M each year after that. Amare gets $15M next year and then is of course a free agent after that. If Minny wants to dump salary in the stupidest way possible, well, dump it on Detroit.

(1) i/@TJ:
you lost me at hello.i/

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(2) How DO you do HTML tags?

You gotta put the carrots around the tags.

(carrot)i(carrot) shit you want to be italicized (carrot)/i(carrot)

Same thing with bold (b, /b), strike through (strike, /strike), etc.

HTML is totally gay awesome!

@ToledoJoe:
you lost me at hello

I was saying that about the commenter TJ above, not MFToledoJoe :) I said it because I read his comment a good three times and didn’t understand what the hell he was saying. Then again, I was drunk.

As for italics tags on blogs, you don’t use the “i” tag, you use the “em” tag. so before the text you want to italicize, you enter left arrow “em” right arrow, and then close it with left arrow, slash “em” right arrow. italics (without spaces)

@BillHiggins:
If Al can be had so cheaply, Joe Dumars MUST get on the phone immediately and trade for him, before this terrible deal can happen!

No doubt. I don’t care what it would take, if Al Jefferson is on the market you make that happen pronto.

Wouldn’t it be funny if Joe was dyslexic and his whole plan was to trade Chauncey for Al, not AI? Following the AI trade, he realizes his mistake— D’oh!

I also would love Al Jefferson as a Piston. However, he is not a good defender.

OT: Story on cheap ass houses in Detroit. I’m sure a lot of you have seen it alreay.

Birdman, did you watch him much this season? In the games I saw (not a huge sample size, but not a miniscule one), I thought he looked good on defense. Again, I’m not the most educated person on the subject, but that was my view on what I did see.

I’d say we all can agree that Al is certainly a better defender than Amare or Boozer.

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To be honest, I haven’t seen Jefferson play this season. I just know he has a reputation for being a crappy defender. I think I saw some numbers to back that up, but I forget where.

NOTE: not my strongest argument on a topic

@Colin

If I were even the least bit handy, I might think about buying a $100 dilapidated home. Unfortunately I am not the least bit handy. However, that $25,000 incentive to buy a home (must pay 1% of value and also live in said home) is pretty enticing… if I were making the same money I am in Chicago back in Kalamazoo, I would absolutely take the gub’mint up on the offer. Pay off school AND have my own house? That’s sounds totally awesome superawesome.

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Don’t think this could happen (can’t trade a player for one year after signing??) but Sheed SnT to Minny for AL, then Sheed to Phx for Amare.

Minny gets Amare, We get AL and Phx get someone to stretch defense for Shaq in the middle and a post defender for TD/Pau? AL’s contract is in the neighborhood of what Sheed said he was looking for. Again, I know there’s something about trading someone within 1 year of their contract, baseline player(s) and other shit. But the numbers are close to working. Hell, we could throw Tay for Mike Miller to make it more enticing for someone.

And the best part is, we don’t have to go after Boozer, or at worst overpay because he know’s we got a low-post scoring 4 at worst.

@Joel:

I also lack the skillz. Would be pretty awesome tho.

For $100 though? It seems like it wouldn’t be too hard to put up some drywall and a couple power outlets. I’ve got a good friend in Kzoo who can pretty much do/get anything as far as construction is concerned. You could just have a “party house”— maybe some old sectional couches, a keg-erator, and a stage for a band? That would be a good time.

Now to convince pretty girls to come party in Northern Detroit…

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@Colin:
I loved the main image in that article, noticed the photo credit watermark and googled the photog’s name. This photo editorial of Detroit’s “urban prarie” is pretty amazing:
http://www.corinesmith.com/projects/detroit-2007/

laughton, what’s up with that nevill kid anyway? there were a lot of reports that he was the reason why bj mullens canceled a bunch of workouts, because nevill was making him look so bad. even saw one where nevill allegedly made mullens CRY. :(

if he’s outplaying a potential lottery pick, and is a legit 7’2", and is still projected not to be picked, what’s the issue with him? one arm? bad b.o.? a celtics fan? what?

I’ve wondered that too JackDutch. I saw him play live in this game and he seemed solid. Just seems like another case of the league overvaluing a young guy who’ll probably never pan out.

One guy who I’d like to hear more about as possible 2nd rounder is Milan Macvan. A Serbian 19-year old who’s scouting report looks like the exact opposite of Darko’s – he looks like the second coming of Laimbeer.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Milan-Macvan-1356/

Reportedly the Wolves quickly nixed the proposed Amare-Big Al deal. So I guess we know that the Wolves aren’t completely insane.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/06/18/minnesota-nixed-amare-deal/

Still, Joe, get on the phone and see what it would take!

@Bill Higgins

Maybe Tay/Rip + Amir/Kwame + #15???

One legit veteran starter + one serviceable big + good draft pick… that’s a pretty good deal. Eh? Ehhhh?

I’d send Rip or Tay, MFWB, Amir + #15 for Al Jefferson and Mike Miller.

I’d send you a high-five through the mail for that one.

Someone on another website asked this question about Gordon.

Is there a player in the NBA Gordon can guard?

I say yes.

Amir Johnson because the Pistons never pass him the ball.

Trade Amir next Thursday.

@Mike:
72

(MP: sorry about the guarantee jinx — I failed to realize the power of my words.)

@JackDutch – To be honest I don’t know a heap about the guy except he is a big dude and comes from my part of Aus. I sure think he would be worth a second rounder, can’t teach size and all that.

lol @ Mike Payne.

Ben Gordon is a very poor version of Iverson. He has all the flaws of AI (except that he practises; if he didn’t, he would be out of the L long time ago), but only a fraction of AI’s talent. Why would your team want a poor version of the "question" (particularly for 11 mil)?

we need a new act in motown get rid the remainder of 04 championship team and start with some new blood.
pg: will binum (for now)
sg: terrance williams
sf: trevor ariza
pf: maxell(for now)or david lee
c: amarie stodimire
with this team we can play up temple or half court.
a few ajustments and thats a real championship team!!!!
fuck boozer, fuck gordan and fuck curry man!!!!

You imploded the squad by trading billips. Rashid Wallace is gone. I no longer recognize The Detroit Pistons as a NBA Powerhouse.