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Detroit Draft Debate: Earl Clark

With the draft just a week away, our good friend Pardeep will debate the merits of several prospects expected to be available when the Pistons pick at No. 15. If you dig Pardeep's steez, don't miss his weekly Cultural Power Rankings. -- MW

By: Pardeep Toor


(How you like that from your power forward?)

In every draft there is always at least one player who is a sure thing and for whatever reason that designation turns against him. In 2006 it was Brandon Roy (6th) and Rudy Gay (8th), who fell too far because they were so good that they weren't exciting "prospects" anymore. In 2007 it was Joakim Noah (9th); last year, Eric Gordon (7th). This year it's going to be Earl Clark, a freakish athlete who defies positions and has been slowly falling out of the lottery into the mid-to-late teens as the draft approaches.

He's long, quick off the dribble, a mismatch at the three and four, athletic enough to be a defensive force and has at least one "Woah, WTF?" moment in every game that I've seen him play this year.

The knock on Clark has been complacency and failing to take over games offensively. Plus, being good at everything is interpreted as being not particularly good at anything. His passion is questioned similar to the way Rudy Gay was criticized after UConn's loss to George Mason and the subsequent draft workouts, which caused him to fall needlessly.

On the opposite end, the Atlanta Hawks overvalued Marvin Williams in 2005 because of similar athletic potential to Clark, taking him ahead of Chris Paul and Deron Williams. Clark's game is somewhere between Williams and Gay, and since he's projected to be taken in the teens, he might be the best value in the draft. Clark's physical tangibles and raw abilities are going to find him an NBA niche for many years to come.

College Career:

2008-09 Averages: 14.2 points, 8.7 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 1.4 blocks, 1.0 steals, 45.7 FG%, 64.7 FT%

A little bit of everything. A vital player on any good team. His turnovers last year were quite high at 3.2 a game.

Best Case: Lamar Odom - as Odom is now, not the potential that Odom had coming into the league.

Worst Case: Tim Thomas - falls in love with the outside shot early in his career, gets paid based on potential, cranks dat in cruise control for the next decade.

Fit With The Pistons: Versatility. I bet if Michael Curry played Tay Prince, Amir Johnson and Clark at the same time, they could create a wall of long arms spanning the width of the basketball court. Apart from being visually amusing, the three of them (assuming Amir ever gets to play) have a chance to be a revolutionary lineup (Nellie-esque) in short spurts.

Coming off the bench as a backup forward, Clark is going to be another guy you can throw at LeBron, allowing the Pistons to guard the Rashard/Hedo lineup with ease alongside Prince and finally allowing them to match up against potential playoff teams with athletic forwards (Atlanta, Chicago and Washington). Of course, all of this is dependent on Curry wanting to test the flexibility of his roster and attempt to create mismatches. If the Pistons are going to start and play Kwame Brown at center all year then these options mean nothing. Clark's not going to be a franchise player for them, but he would solidify the Pistons at two positions (SF/PF) while adding versatility and athleticism to an exhausted Pistons' core.

Thoughts on Clark playing above the rim in the D next year? Let's hear it in the comments.

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by Glenn on Jun 19, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Really enjoying these posts, Pardeep— excellent work. Keep ’em coming!!

by Mike Payne on Jun 19, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Of all the guys who have a realistic shot of being available when we pick, Clark is my favorite.

by Jim on Jun 19, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

I’d be happy with Clark – definitely seems like he could be a good value. I see him as potentially a Shawn Marion type.

One issue with that clip though – the guy he’s taking off the dribble is Luke Harangody.

by Shinons on Jun 19, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Clark is one of the few players that will be available that have star potential.

What scares me is that he looked really uncomfortable off the dribble when I watched him play against MSU. Sharpe has similar athleticism and much better skills (from the little I’ve seen of the two).

Then again, Ariza is a pretty bad ball handler too and gets by with straight line drives and athleticism. If Clark can lock down on defense, grab rebounds, develop at consistent three-point shot and all other things Ariza does, he’ll be well worth it. I think that’s a better comparison than Odom (Odom’s a legit ball handler).

I’m leaning away from Clark because of Sharpe. But maybe drafting EC will create some healthy competition between the two…

by Quick Darshan on Jun 19, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d be thrilled if we signed Clark. Not only could he be the backup 3 we’ve needed for years, but after a year if he pans out he could make Tay expendable without having to spend on a replacement three (like williams, marion, etc). Then Tay can come back in 5 years and become our head coach. TPIAFI?

by Mike Payne on Jun 19, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Slightly OT, but what the fuck is up with Sharpe? Why was he on the active roster all year yet I don’t remember seeing him play one minute? Shouldn’t he be in the D-League or something? I don’t get it.

There has to be some reason we took a 6’9" narcoleptic that wasn’t even on most teams’ draft boards over DeAndre Jordan, a proven C with legit NBA size from a legit college program, doesn’t there?

On topic:

Clark would be a great pick at #15. He and his Louisville buddy T-Will both are guys that I think you really can’t miss on. They’re both lanky, super athletic, defend exceptionally well, and have the definition of a “complementary” offensive game. The two things that put T-Will ever-so-slightly over Clark in my book are:

1) At 6’6", T-Will is an EXCEPTIONAL rebounder, averaging virtually identical numbers as Clark (8.6 v 8.7). 5 apg and 2.3 spg don’t hurt either.

2) I think he’s a potential star. He just has that certain cockiness about him. I can’t pin it exactly, but I have this feeling that he could be Grant Hill but on the All-Defense team too. All he really needs to do is develop a jump shot, because he already has handles, can pass, rebound, do everything else.

by Joel on Jun 19, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, CDR too. Remember that Nets game where he single-handedly killed us? Fucking Sharpe. Either somebody knows something we don’t know or JDIAFI.

by Joel on Jun 19, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

One thing that worries me about Clark: we might be drafting Julian Wright.

by Shinons on Jun 19, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ve never seen this kid play. haven’t really ever heard of him either so I can’t comment.

@ Joel: re Sharpe – I think the plan was to 1. dial in his meds; 2. The guy had bounced around in college and was susupeded for awhile (I believe) that he hadn’t really played alot of structured, organized ball in addition to a “regular” life so they wanted to provide him with alot of structure; 3. traveling with D-League and the other chaos that goes with D-L wouldn’t be beneficial to him; 4. I think Joe/mngmt wanted to really see what he was in terms of how far he might be away.

by MarkButter in SoCal on Jun 19, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I forgot #5. Joe D totally fucked up and didn’t want anyone to know so he didn’t kick him to the curb and is hoping he will silently fade into the night this summer while everyone is focused on carping about the CB trade and the cap room it gave us.

by MarkButter in SoCal on Jun 19, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought Sharpe spent some time in the D-League last year? If I remember right CDR refused to work out for us last year.

by Jim on Jun 19, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

“Cranks dat in cruise control”

LOL WUT

by Keegan on Jun 19, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Sign me the fuck up!

by TDP on Jun 19, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

And he played just few enough games to be able to tell us absolutely nothing! Woo hoo!
http://www.basketball-reference.com/nbdl/players/s/sharpwa01d.html

by Shinons on Jun 19, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, CDR is rumored to have said that he didn’t want to play for the Pistons.

Walter Sharpe is a lottery level talent. Getting him in the second round (even though there’s a strong chance he won’t pan out due to narcolepsy and his lack of game experience) was probably too much of a low risk/high reward gamble to pass up.

That being said, DeAndre Jordan would have been a great pick.

by Quick Darshan on Jun 19, 2009 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

earl clark, if he’s there at 15, is the pick. i don’t know how you’d be able to second guess joe with that one. i watched a decent amount of big east ball this year and i agree with pardeep’s “whoa wtf” assessment of clark. watching him this year i just assumed he was a top 5 pick. the fact we could have him in the middle of the 1st is astounding.

by JackDutch on Jun 19, 2009 6:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Earl Clark will be the best player out of the draft not named Griffin, Rubio, of Thabeet. If we can get him at the 15th pick I say deal, deal, deal!

by TJ on Jun 20, 2009 12:14 AM CDT reply actions  

If Clark is the solid pick everyone thinks he is why don’t we move up a spot or two shouldn’t be that hard .

by Defor on Jun 20, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions  

we need to stop entertaining these dumb articles. the pistons front office cry every year that we need a impact player like lebron, like kobe, like wade and like the great jordan, but when one in their face they don’t grab him. i’ll repeat gp is not jumping on terrance williams bandwagon for no reason. jordan was not a great player in college but look what he did when he came in the nba. nobody knew kobe would be as good as he is,in the nba or he would have been the #1 pick when he was drafted.so in other the words don’t judge what he did in college, judge what he is capable of.

by joe on Jun 20, 2009 11:57 PM CDT reply actions  

It appears joe just cut and pasted the above message in all the draft evaluation threads. So it appears the question is, do you believe a prospect is better ranked on proformance or potential? Personally, I like Hansbrough or Blair, but with Dumars saying that Stucky is not a point gaurd, I could see Ty Lawson being the pick (unless a FA like D. Miller or Fenton is on their radar), could be the 1st round pick.
On the performance VS potential question, doesn’t it depend on the amount of years the person spend in college?

by rd on Jun 22, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Dumars didn’t say Stuckey wasn’t a point guard. Just that he should play off the ball too so he can be more aggressive and look for his shot more.

by Quick Darshan on Jun 22, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

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