The "Austin Daye is a Piston" post
The Pistons have selected Austin Daye out of Gonzaga with the 15th overall pick.
Scouting report from Draft Express:
Daye uses the third least possessions amongst college players on our list at 12.6 per game, but his 49% shooting percentage in logged games places him above average on our list. At 6’10, Daye’s 63% shooting as a finisher and 44% on both catch and shoot and pull up jumpers should give him excellent potential in the eyes of NBA decision-makers. However, his body gives them reason for pause, and will make them wonder if he can translate his talents to the much more physically demanding style of the NBA.
Update: Ryan McNeill of Hoops Addict snagged a good interview with Daye earlier this month during a pre-draft workout in Toronto.
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boooooo. I really hope that Daye was selected because he’s widely considered to have a lot of potential, so he could be used to tip the scale in a trade.
by Matt Gibson on Jun 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions
I’m mixing up a thermos of Creatine for him right now.
by Skylar on Jun 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions
Official tag for the 2009-10 Pistons: “It’s the Daye-time of the Night!”
Also, R.I.P. Tayshaun (and, maybe, R.I.P. Rip?).
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
SVG:
“The happiest guy in the world right now is Tayshaun Prince, because Austin Daye makes him look like the Incredible Hulk.”
FML. Just FML.
by Joel on Jun 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
Austin Daye could be solid. I watched a lot of Gonzaga games this year, and his jumper is on point. I see him having the skill set of Sheed, but with less attitude, less heart, but maybe more upside
by pat on Jun 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
I like the pick. Tayshaun Prince with longer range and more positional versatility. I would have preferred Ty Lawson, but this is a great second best.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 25, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
Though i like daye, I wanted Jrue Holliday. Move Stuckey to the 2
by pat on Jun 25, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
Joel, Austin Daye also makes Tayshaun look like a goner.
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
I hope he’s a good teammate with the Pistons because he wasn’t in high school. I really do hope he pans out, however. You have to like his skill set and we’ve really needed a guy who can put the ball in the basket. He seems to be able to do that. Skills-wise, they talk about him like a 6’11" Stephen Curry.
by Sable on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
I like the pick. I’m a fan of this kids game… Yes, he’s small right now but he is young and definitely talented.
I wanted Clark but I’ll take Daye.
by Dylan on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
Micheal jackson’s dead, now this? I guess it’s just a terrible Daye.
by joe on Jun 25, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
What does this tell us about Walter Sharpe? Daye is a SF right now, and won’t be able to be a PF until he bulks up a lot
by Scottwood on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t like the pick. But, granted, I’ve never seen him play. Hopefully John Hollinger is right.
Either way, there’s no one that excited me that went after him so I’m not terribly upset. I’m more excited about the second rounders.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
Since I don’t follow college ball at all, I just sort of naturally assumed we’d pick one of the guys previewed here. Did Daye’s name come up at all in the last few weeks?
by Garrett on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
I’ll be much more happy with the Daye pick if we somehow trade back into the first round and draft Blair.
Who cares if Blair’s career only lasts 6 years. He’s gonna be a good player for those 6 years and he fits a need.
by Gabe on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Daye is a project and not ready to contribute, so Joe D. is probably not expecting him to contribute this year. Down the road, I could see Daye as a decent SF. When I watched him, I didn’t notice him much defensively. Long term, he will probably be a better shooter than Prince and a worse defender. I can’t seeing him being ready for such a role for a couple years, which is when Prince’s deal would expire. So, time-wise, he may be viewed as Prince’s replacement.
If he adds A LOT of bulk, he might be a PF down the road. But, I see him as more of a SF.
by Scottwood on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
@Scottwood:
Daye is a project and not ready to contribute, so Joe D. is probably not expecting him to contribute this year.
So that goes against everything that Dumars said, about grabbing two players out of FA and one immediate player out of the draft.
by Mike Payne on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
He can contribute a little off the bench b/f of his length and shot. But, he will be overmatched defensively b/c of how thin he is.
by Scottwood on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
“What does this tell us about Walter Sharpe?” Precisely what we knew. Sharpe’s a second-rounder who probably won’t do much in the League.
by Rob G on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Douglass taken by the Knicks (who bought the pick from the Lakers). We were rumored to have been high on me. And, we probably could have got that pick if we wanted it. Whether or not, Joe D wanted him, though, we will never know.
by Scottwood on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
@Scottwood:
But, he will be overmatched defensively b/c of how thin he is.
My anger is not directed at you, but—
THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU DRAFT HIM???
by Mike Payne on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Evidently, Daye felt his “best” workouts were in Oakland and Detroit. Joe must’ve agreed.
I like that he shot 88% from the line last year.
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
Every year, I get my hopes up that someone will be able to back up Tay. I’m not getting my hopes up on this one.
by Rob G on Jun 25, 2009 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Side note, Rob G:
What’s with the cameos? You’re one of the best commenters here on DBB, it ain’t the same without you chiming in regularly. Can a brother get a photoshop or something? At least a haiku?
by Mike Payne on Jun 25, 2009 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
Bye, bye Johnson because here come Daye!!!! Wait a minute are Yall twins. Stupid pick!!!!
by joe on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
I have a nasty suspicion we’re going to pass on Blair… Maybe even take Jon Brockman instead :(
by Gabe on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
“My anger is not directed at you, but–
THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU DRAFT HIM???"
Because, if there is one thing that is easy to improve, it’s muscle bulk. Height is impossible to improve (obviously) and shooting is pretty darn close. Daye is tall, and can shoot, and has proven that in his college career.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 25, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
Ummmm…Mr. Dumars? Do we not have a glaring need for 4’s and 5’s that we could have filled with our 1st round pick? I understand that there’s not many big men in this draft and that Daye has a lot of upside…but c’mon! Here’s to hoping we pull off a trade or pick up someone halfway decent to fill in the frontcourt.
by Mark B. on Jun 25, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
The thing I don’t like about this pick is that Daye couldn’t bench press 185lbs once in the Combines. That means that if I passed out on top of him. He wouldn’t be able to push me off. That scares me.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 25, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
I’m surprised people are so lukewarm on the pick. Yes he is rail thin, but he shoots good at the line, good at mid-range and good from 3-point land. Plus, he rebounds well for his position and can block shots. I think he will be a contributor relatively soon. He just won’t get assignments on Ron Artest, LeBron James, etc.
by NotoriousCPC on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
@Kevin S:
Because, if there is one thing that is easy to improve, it’s muscle bulk.
Um, I have one word in response: Amir Johnson.
by Mike Payne on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
QD, he’s so bony that you couldn’t comfortably pass out.
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
@QD:
That means that if I passed out on top of him. He wouldn’t be able to push me off.
…sinner ;)
by Mike Payne on Jun 25, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
I don’t care about not drafting in the front court. That’s what our cap space is for.
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
Kevin Durant couldn’t lift 185 lbs either before he was drafted..
by Mark B. on Jun 25, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
“@Kevin S:
Because, if there is one thing that is easy to improve, it’s muscle bulk.
Um, I have one word in response: Amir Johnson."
Cheick Samb.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
GET BLAIR NOW DUMARS!!!!
DON’T MAKE ME COME UP THERE!!!!
by Dr D on Jun 25, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
@TDP:
Away from Daye, I wish they’d been runnin’.
by Mike Payne on Jun 25, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
what drafting daye tells me is that we’ve conceded the now and are looking to the future. i kind of hate the pick.
by JackDutch on Jun 25, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
I think he’s a mix of Prince and Rasheed. I like this draft pick.
by Fadel on Jun 25, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
I think this pick could work. I cant see how this is bad news for Tay, Daye won’t be ready to start for at least two seasons at best. If next season is a rebuilding one (I think it is) Daye can be a part of the rotation. Not my favourite pick, but certainly not doom and gloom.
by Laughton on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
gottta love a good summers daye… get it? baha… yea
by mannie32 on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
Leave it to the Spurs to make the smart pick and take Blair. Maybe we will take yet another Tayshaun type player at 39 instead.
by MrVociferous on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
This Summers pick baffles me. I don’t know a lot about him to be honest, but another SF? Can someone enlighten me here?
by Laughton on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
FUCK! Summers sucks. He put up crappy numbers on a team that didn’t even make the NCAA tournament. I’m going to warn everyone, don’t get your hopes up about Summers, he is absolutely not an NBA player. JDIAFI.
And of course San Antonio gets Blair. :( Very, very, very bummed right now.
by Gabe on Jun 25, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
Did we draft the wrong DaJuan by accident? What on Earth?
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 25, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
AAAHHH. we could have had Blair at 35. I heard DeJuan and started smiling. It didn’t last long. I don’t know shit about Summers, but jesus, we need big men.
by Colin on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
The Spurs got him….of course!
You suck Dumars, keep reaching for that trash! Let’s see if we can get some 16 year old ukranian that will be able to play in 2020.
I’m out.
by Dr D on Jun 25, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
Summers is a very, very good pick. He can play the 3, but he has the bulk to play the 4. In the second round, this is a very good pick.
by Scottwood on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
Laughton – He has great size, he’s one of the best shooters in the draft (equal true shooting percentage and three point percentage as Stephen Curry), and if you consider a guy who is as fast and agile as Ty Lawson and strong as Dejuan Blair athletic, then Summers is athletic.
by Shinons on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions
How does a PF only average 4 rebounds a game in the NCAA???? Summers can’t be that great…
by Chandragupta on Jun 25, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
Did we just draft the first guy from Sweden??? What the hell?
Wait…no…looks like Miles Simon was the only other player from Sweden and he lasted one year in 1998. I’m sure this will work out reaaaal well.
http://basketballreference.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=SIMONMI01
Why couldn’t we have taken a flier on someone like Budinger instead? That would have given us some more flexibility to trade Rip.
by MrVociferous on Jun 25, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
We basically took Summers over Young and Blair. It will be interesting to track their careers and see if Joe D made the right call here.
by Scottwood on Jun 25, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
this draft is terrible. there is no one we could pick at 44 that will make up for pick 15, 35, and 39.
by JackDutch on Jun 25, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions
@TDP
“Danny Green at 44?”
He does play SF and that does seem to fit Joe D’s drafting MO. Going back to Sharpe that would be 2 drafts in a row where all we’re taken is SF’s.
Can we fire him yet??
by MrVociferous on Jun 25, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
Joe D took a shit. On our chests. A “Detroit Steamer” if you will.
by Joel on Jun 25, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
Is it bad that I’m more excited about our #44 pick than our #15? God damn.
by Joel on Jun 25, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
Does Dumars have any idea that we need guys that can contribute now? Does this guy think he can keep picking project players year after year and not get called on it?
Seriously, the press better get on him about this because he has used all of the goodwill built up for the 04 title, this guy has killed our chances with the last 3 drafts.
How about this swedish guy? Is he fricking serious?
You stink joe….
YOU..
STINK..
by Ronald Lecavlier on Jun 25, 2009 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
The injuries must have scared people away from Blair. I can’t figure out what in the world else it could be.
I kinda like Budinger… he could be a rotation player eventually. Can shoot the ball, anyway.
by brgulker on Jun 25, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
The thing about Daye is he has alot of talent if he was 30 pounds heavier I think he would have been atop 5 he’s gonna need at least 20 to 25 pounds to be much for us if he can put it on he could be a steal,on another note whats with all these small forwards were drafting looks like Joe’s gonna find a solid 3 and a solid backup even if it takes everyone of his picks,Daye,summers,Jerebko,Chase I like these guys but it doesn’t look good for Tay.
by Defor on Jun 25, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK.
This draft lined up perfectly for us, we could have had Daye, Blair and Danny Green!
That’s three players that you can really use in an NBA rotation, and instead we fucking picked two guys who look great in an empty gym, but can’t fucking play a lick of actual, real, live, basketball. Drafting Summers and Budinger instead of Blair and Green is indefensibly stupid.
by Gabe on Jun 25, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
“Drafting Summers and Budinger instead of Blair and Green is indefensibly stupid.”
Most mocks had Budinger well before Green. Blair’s knee injuries are reported to be quite bad (I trust Kander here). I haven’t seen Summers at all so I know nothing about him.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 25, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions
The guys on the MLive draft chat are talking about the Pistons trading Budinger to Houston.
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
so.. will everyone finally get off Joe D’s nuts? The Pistons draft worse than the pre-2009 Lions.
by Chad on Jun 25, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
@mp: Side note, Rob G:
What’s with the cameos? You’re one of the best commenters here on DBB, it ain’t the same without you chiming in regularly. Can a brother get a photoshop or something? At least a haiku?
here’s what happened: four-month-old and a dissertation. But thanks for the good word….
by Rob G on Jun 25, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions
Well there is some good news tonight with OKC picking up Mullens its unlikely they’ll go after Gortat hopefully keeping his price down some I guess I can forget about Marvin Williams now with all these small fowards it looks certain tay is gone maybe Rip as well with Budinger and the Gordon rumor maybe we can work something out with Phillie for Brand one thing for certain we should be able to to find a solid three and a backup three outa shere numbers
by Defor on Jun 25, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
Budinger might be going to Houston for future 2nd-rounders and cash.
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, looks like Budinger is gone.
So our draft haul is Daye and Summers…
And still the only bigs on the roster are Max and Kwame. If things don’t go perfectly for us with our free agent targets we are going to be terrible next year, basically if we don’t sign or trade for at least two bigs we are heading to the lottery next year.
by Gabe on Jun 25, 2009 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
Well, we can draft John Wall next year and get ourselves a PG. Haha.
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions
TSP – the Stafford comment was “ra-tarded.”
I originally wanted Curry but after seeing what the Lions have managed to do in the off-season I’m 100% on-board with the Stafford Pick.. I have no faith in the Pistons to do anything decent this off-season; the only thing Joe D has done is trade for Rasheed Wallace.
Mateen Cleaves
Rodney Stuckey
Austin Daye
Walter Sharpe
Darko Milicec.
Hell yeah… that’s a lineup.
by Chad on Jun 25, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with the “tank the season, draft john wall & go on a 2010 FA shopping-spree” idea.
by Chad on Jun 25, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions
No, I really wouldn’t have drafted Austin Daye #1 in the NFL Draft.
by TDP on Jun 25, 2009 11:55 PM EDT reply actions
Hopefully someone posts before me so I don’t have 3 comments in a row.. but does anyone think thats what Joe D is actually doing? This seems like one of those things that, from the outside looking in, look too stupid to not be part of a larger plan..
Bill L resigns from Shock
Michael Curry retains head-coach position and the team undergoes a fire-sale, freeing up every available dollar they can.
MC leads the team (without rip or sheed) to a season comparable to those in the “teal era” and earns a lottery pick.
Draft John Wall.
Spend our (by then) 60MIL cap space on whoever will want to play here..
Fire MC, hire BL.
Nice.
by Chad on Jun 26, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
“That was Chase Budinger who was traded to the Rockets.”
Great so the only guy projected as a solid 1st rnd pick which we get as a semi-steal late second round pick and we trade him away for nothing. This has been a super draft for Joe D. Lottery here we come 2010!!!
by Ronald Lecavlier on Jun 26, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
" have no faith in the Pistons to do anything decent this off-season; the only thing Joe D has done is trade for Rasheed Wallace."
Uh yeah, if you don’t count trading for Ben Wallace, trading for Rip Hamilton, trading Lindsey Hunter for Mike James and then getting Hunter back, signing Chauncey Billups, signing Antonio McDyess, drafting Tayshaun Prince, drafting Mehmet Okur, drafting Rodney Stuckey…
Yeah, he sucks. If only the bright minds of this comment thread could make acquisitions for the Pistons. Good grief – I feel dumber for having read all this idiocy.
by Bob S. on Jun 26, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
Check it out. The only guy at the Chicago Pre-draft combine this year that could not bench press 180 lbs even one time
Also is max verticle leap is about enough to maybe get over a poodle. 28". By comparison D. Washington is 41-43"
by Mike on Jun 26, 2009 12:50 AM EDT reply actions
“Uh yeah, if you don’t count trading for Ben Wallace, trading for Rip Hamilton, trading Lindsey Hunter for Mike James and then getting Hunter back, signing Chauncey Billups, signing Antonio McDyess, drafting Tayshaun Prince, drafting Mehmet Okur, drafting Rodney Stuckey…”
Drafting Darko, Signing Mohammed, Signing Kwame, Drafting Sharpe, Trading Chauncey and Dyess for AI, giving up a first round pick for Carlos Arroyo, paying 11 million for Amir and then trading him for a box of matches.
“Good grief – I feel dumber for having read all this idiocy.”
;)
by Ronald Lecavlier on Jun 26, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions
@Mike:
TRADE DERON WASHINGTON NOW. (i’m making fun of you, btw)
by Mike Payne on Jun 26, 2009 1:13 AM EDT reply actions
ronald – im with you 100% besides kwame.. he was a good pickup for what we paid for him.
bob s- retarded. wallace and hamilton were garbage when we got them, they flourished in detroits system. the billups trade was great, besides currys mishandling of ai.
by chad on Jun 26, 2009 1:51 AM EDT reply actions
“ronald – im with you 100% besides kwame.. he was a good pickup for what we paid for him.”
Thats true until you realise that he has a player option for next year which means he will cost us another 4 million. I mean a player option for Kwame friggin Brown, amazing!
by Ronald Lecavlier on Jun 26, 2009 2:32 AM EDT reply actions
Daye’s got one major strength … range. He can shoot it on the perimeter. He might actually be a reliable 3-baller … pretty likely that a guy hitting it over 40 percent in college is gonna be able to at least hit it 35-38 percent in the pros.
by Sauce1977 on Jun 26, 2009 7:04 AM EDT reply actions
Sauce is right. And the guy is 6’11" in shoes, so at the very least he can play the 4 off the bench for the first year and pull whatever big they put on him all the way out to the 3pt line, thus freeing up the lane for…
who?
And for what it’s worth, apparently we were looking at Summers with the #15 too, so the fact that we got him at #35 is a steal (at least for us). His numbers weren’t impressive, but he is 6’9", bulky, and has range. Brandon Bass? I think he’ll make the team for sure.
by Joel on Jun 26, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions
I didn’t see it posted above, but the kid is only 20. My concern is obviously his weight but at 20 I think we can hang a bit and in a couple of years (when Tay’s contract is up) he should be able to slide into the 3. I think the 4 is out of question. Even if he gains 30 lbs, he’d still only weigh 222.
by MarkButter in SoCal on Jun 26, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions
Awful draft. So we draft awful players. I liked birdman’s “coulda/shoulda” draft list on the other thread. What’s the point of all the second rounders, though, really? Yeah, sometimes the “diamond in the rough” turns up. But taking a guy (Budinger) and trading him for another 2nd rounder? Last I saw, we needed players now. It’s not that I loved the guy on our team, but the last 2 drafts from joe have left me scratching my head wondering why Joe is drafting how he does. The organization has a pretty horrible record of developing these types of guys, especially when mciafi. It feels like we’re just spinning our wheels right now. Well, fingers crossed for FA’s….
by Craig on Jun 26, 2009 9:45 AM EDT reply actions
Hey, Kevin Durant couldn’t bench 180 lbs. once either. Coincidence? I think not.
A star is born.
by Joel on Jun 26, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions
This might have you feeling a little better about Daye:
http://www.hoopsanalyst.com/0809ew11.htm
Daye’s passing worries me as a 3, though, and will he ever have the bulk to be a real 4? An A/TO ratio of 0.5 is scary for a SF. Actually, it should be noted that all the 3 guys we ended up with (all SFs) had A/TO ratios of right around 0.5. Daye at least does some other things well, some very well, in fact.
by push on Jun 26, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
I’m surprised so many people are killing this years draft. I’m not saying we can’t have different opinions about who we could have drafted instead, but we took guys around the slot they were expected to be taken.
Daye is very skinny, but he’s also young, a very good shooter, rebounder and shot blocker. From what I’ve read he’s a good guy who works hard and has no off the court issues. I said this in another thread, but Daye was rated 4th overall by Hollingers draft rater which has an impressive history with evaluating college players. This was one of the weaker drafts in recent memory, so no matter who we took at 15 was going to have some holes in their game. I’d rather have a guy who needs to put on weight then one who needs to learn how to shoot.
Jerbko and Summers were considered late 1st round / early 2nd round picks by ESPN, NBAdraftnet, and draftexpress, so getting them in the second round is fine with me. Yes all these guys are 3/4’s, but the success rates of draft picks outside the lottery is pretty small. If by some chance they all end up turning into good players then we have a good trade chip or two.
by Jim on Jun 26, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions
I haven’t seen Daye play a whole lot but he kind of looks like Bargnani. At least, he didn’t take Daye over Alridge and Brandon Roy.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 26, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah Jim, I don’t get the (why did the Pistons draft 3 SFs argument?). You’re not putting together are starting lineup. You’re grabbing assests.
It’s basically a crap shoot so I’m cool with acquiring as many draft picks as possible.
I think Minnesota was smart to take Rubio and Flynn because they felt they were the best two players available (so did I).
by Quick Darshan on Jun 26, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
I’ve yet to hear from anyone, anywhere why we (and everyone else) passed on the two big men from Pitt., especially us, given our current needs.
I am desperately hoping that Joe D has an Ace up his sleeve that we just don’t know about (trading Tay for Stud Big man, Signing Gortat, Signing Boozer/Milsap, etc.) but that has already been agreed upon in principle.
If not, this draft is confuzzling.
by brgulker on Jun 26, 2009 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
Joe D doesnt draft from talent or position need.. what the hell is wrong with him. i still think he will regret passing up jrue holiday.
by wtf on Jun 26, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions
if dumars largely made the decision on daye based on character, then what’s this quote from his hometown paper:
“It remains a hoot that so many opinions about Daye were based on visceral reaction to his on-court demeanor – the body language, petulance and immaturity that he did not bother to hide and, yes, sometimes let get in the way of his duty.”
then there was another report (link at mlive.com) accusing daye of dogging it at the combine. what kind of kid is this really?
by JackDutch on Jun 26, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
also, if character is paramount with dumars, good luck with the free agent market. ben gordon’s a pouty bitch and carlos boozer broke his word to a blind guy.
also, dumars threw his high regard for character out the window when he chose iverson over billups.
this character bullshit is worse than “dejuan blair has bad knees” bullshit.
by JackDutch on Jun 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
Jim, I’m not buying any draft projections that said “top 5 talent” and late 1st round early 2nd pick. In this shitty of a draft, everyone could crack the 1st round, depending on who was making the pick. Blair, to me, was the best low post player available to the pistons. Dude ate TheBeats breakfast everytime they played, even with no acl’s. I don’t understand why we keep “stashing” players in europe. It’s like putting on a fall jacket and finding a doller in the pocket. Wahoo.
by Craig on Jun 26, 2009 11:55 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe the money and playing for a five-star basketball general will wake that fool up. I can’t judge.
by Skylar on Jun 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
I think it was in a Chad Ford article or chat, but I know he said Detroit had crossed Blair off their draft board because of concerns about his knee’s. Should we have reconsidered when he fell to the second round? Possibly. But I do see us signing 2 big men this summer and I don’t think you can put Maxi and Blair on the court at the same time, so I don’t know how much of an opportunity he would have gotten to play. He’s a good fit in SA though, since they need big men and he can play with Duncan on the court.
by Jim on Jun 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
omg people are never satisfied daye is a very good player will fit right in with the pistons we need someone like him. I remember back in 07 when we got stuckey people was like why him? terrible pick ect…. But he turned out to be a very good pick we dont have a solid back up small forward daye fills that role in a few years possibly starting now we got 3 string sf prince-daye-summers im super happy with this.
on another note i hope we trade tay and rip and really start rebuilding we need a center backup power forward which can be accomplished in trades and draft im tired of the ecf lost with the 25m we have to spend we can mold this team into a winner in the next 2-3 years
winner= Championship
by Rafeal on Jun 26, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
Well the knees must be bad for him to have dropped THAT far. He was supposed to be a lottery pick. I can’t think of another time that’s happened.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 26, 2009 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
Chad…Those 3 websites are probably the 3 best sources for draft information and analysis. My point was that we seemed to get good value with our picks. Like you said, this was a crappy draft, so any pick would come with question marks. Considering how crappy this draft was and how good of a player Blair is, doesn’t it make you wonder how bad his knees are since he lasted so long? I know he hasn’t missed any time in college, but there must be some big red flags about how his knees will hold up over the next 3-5 years.
Unless we’re blown away by a 2nd round pick and think he can contribute immediately, sending him over to Europe makes lots of sense. If we aren’t sure about a guy, sending him over to Europe allows us to retain his rights so he can develop more and give us more time to evaluate him. All of this with out him counting against our cap. The alternative is to sign him to a guaranteed contract and take up cap space, albeit a small amount, or release him and let him potentially catch on with another team.
by Jim on Jun 26, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
Also, i consider it another knock to McCurry that Joe has to draft kids that will not challenge him. New idea: Get a coach who doesn’t take shit from the players.
by Craig on Jun 26, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
Hypothetical scenario:
Blair’s knees only hold up for 6 years.
We draft him with our first second round pick.
We sign him to a three-year rookie contract, and he produces as a rotation player for those three years.
Worst-case scenario: we pay very little for a productive rotation player for three years, probably much less than we would have to pay for a ‘veteran’ big man for a similar time frame.
If his knees only hold up for six years, it doesn’t matter, because we can let him walk after his rookie contract expires.
That seems to make more sense than drafting how we did, because the worst-case scenario is three years of production on the cheap. Now, best case scenario is 1-2 years in D League / Europe and no/little production from the 2nd round picks.
W.T.F.
by brgulker on Jun 26, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
“Unless we’re blown away by a 2nd round pick and think he can contribute immediately…”
How do we not take Blair at #35? It’s a broken record at this point, but god damn we absolutely could’ve gotten Summers at #39. Not to mention Calathes, Patty Mills, Jodie Meeks, etc. etc. etc. etc.
I know we shouldn’t be making such a big deal about 2nd round picks, but in a draft as “weak” as this one, it basically implies that we can get the same talent in the 2nd round as we can in the first. That’s why it blows my mind that we don’t take a SURE THING in Blair at #35— even if his knees only hold up for 4-5 years— WHO FUCKING CARES? It’s non-guaranteed 2nd round money! There’s literally NOTHING to lose.
by Joel on Jun 26, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions
Joel, the way we played the draft confused the hell out of me, too.
by Skylar on Jun 26, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
Blair STILL has more cartilage in his knees that Daye has in his whole body. You could amputate Blair’s legs from the thighs down and he could still jump higher than Daye. I need to vent now…wefhi;uvujnjnh
by Big Mike on Jun 26, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
When evaluating a draft pick, I ask myself some questions. One of those is: could I beat this guy up? If the answer is yes, then maybe he isn’t the best choice.
by Birdman on Jun 26, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions
everybody just likes to bitch about something!!
by Stuckeyallstar2010 on Jun 26, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve got to admit though, the only, and I mean only thing not to like about this kid is his weight. Seriously, watching some highlight clips on youtube and elsewhere, I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a prettier, smoother stroke from a 6’11" guy. The Dirk/Sheed comparisons, at least offensively, are pretty spot on. Quick-release, nice arc, and it never even touches rim. He’s got that “shooter’s swish.”
The ESPN guys said he’s easily the second-best shooter in the draft behind Stephan Curry, and people have been calling Curry the best shooter to come out of college in years…
And the kid’s 6’11"— with the offensive tools he’s got, he has a chance to be a STAR if he can put on a little bulk. He’s only 20, so it’s absolutely possible. Look at how much better Durant looked this year than last— better yet, look at how much Lebron and Dwight have bulked up. It’s possible. The big thing I think is that we all wanted somebody who could contribute NOW, and this guy is at least a season away from starting. But at this point I’m much more disappointed in picking the wrong DeJuan than I am with picking a legit 6’11" guy who is underweight but can score from anywhere on the floor.
by Joel on Jun 26, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions
On Blair he might be a star and last ten fifteen yrs. in the league on the other hand he’s played what 25 to 30 games a yr. in colledge at 1 to 2 games a week how’s his knees gonna hold up playing 90 to a hundred games a yr. I mean i’ve seen Stuckey this last yr. sitting on the bench late in games with Ice on his knee’s and his knee’s are fine Kandar is the best in the bussiness and i believe Joe listens to him ,if he says his knee’s aren’t going to hold up I got to believe him, not sure if thats what went down but there’s a reason every team in the league pass on him in the first round and what 8 or nine of them paased on him in the second I guess 12 months from now we’ll see.
by Defor on Jun 26, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
Even if Blair holds up, it isn’t a mistake. Blair’s strength is offensive rebounds. Maxiel anyone? Picking a Maxiel clone with bad knees seems downright stooopid. I’ll take a flyer on the other Dejuan who can play the 3.
by Illinois Piston Lover on Jun 26, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions
Poor little Piston guys. I drafted Daye cuz he can shoot—period. Name a better shooter than him at any position below 15. I got nobody to shoot the pill on the second squad when Bynum penetrates. He’s a sneaky weak side defender too. I took Summers cuz you can’t teach his kind of core strength, unselfishness and the nasty way he goes to the hoop.
by JoeyDumars on Jun 27, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
Why is everyone hating on this draft. At LEAST wait until the end of free agency/beginning of season to start hating. For one, why would we pick another Jason Maxiell with bad knees? For another, we weren’t the only team to pass on Blair…the WHOLE first round passed on him, dumbasses. You guys act like we were the only team to pass on him. I agree that he was probably a better value at 35 than summers, but he wouldnt get any playing time, because he couldn’t play beside Maxiell. Wait till after free agency, then start bitchin.
by Cody on Jun 27, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions
I’m very excited that Austin Daye is a Piston. I think he’ll do well
by VAGJ* on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
I’m very excited that Austin Daye is a Piston. I think he’ll do well
by VAGJ* on Jun 28, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
I’m very excited that Austin Daye is a Piston. I think he’ll do well on the team. We’ll have to see how everything works out though. But for now I look 4ward to next season with Austin. :) God Bless.
by VAGJ* on Jun 28, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
looks like we r gonna have to get used to lottery picks in the next few years cuz we arent getting anyone good enough to help us thru free agency.
by wtf on Jun 29, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions

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