Ignore Ensuing Carlos Boozer Rumors; Pistons in Best Shape for Summer of Lebron?
We've heard the rumors swirling for months about the possibility of Detroit trading for oft-injured Carlos Boozer. With the Jazz looking to match Portland's offer sheet for Paul Millsap, we're about to start hearing them once again. Some people would accept Boozer with open arms, while others would rather gouge their eyes out with a fork.
How should we react to the imminent rumors?
Well, according to Pistons beat writer, Mr. Keith Langlois, ignore them:
The Boozer ship has sailed.
Two reasons for that. The first comes on Utah’s end. The Jazz are looking to trade Boozer, but any trade has to accomplish Utah’s primary objective: cutting the Jazz’s tax liability now that they’ve matched on Millsap.
As it stands, the Jazz are going to be paying $10 million or so in luxury tax. They’re not interested in swapping Boozer’s big contract for another – and in the case of the Pistons, the only two players who fit that contract slot are Rip Hamilton or Tayshaun Prince. On a talent-for-talent basis, either trade passes the test. But it doesn’t pull Utah out of its tax mess.
The second is on Detroit’s end. Even if Joe Dumars were interested in trading one or the other, Prince or Hamilton, for Boozer, he’s not interested in meeting Boozer’s asking price.
I think this was becoming increasingly clear over the past few weeks. Joe Dumars seems to be well aware of the risks involved with giving away his iron man, or one of his best scorers, for a red flagged big man. I think fans were starting to understand that a Boozer deal appeared unlikely at this point, too. If it was going to happen, I feel like it already would have went down.
That's not even the most interesting excerpt from Langlois' piece, though. He seems to think Joe Dumars is still setting the Pistons up to be placed in a quality position for the big 2010 free agent class, the Summer of Lebron as a lot of people are calling it:
The vast majority of those stars that dot the marquee of the Summer of LeBron are going to re-sign with their original teams. Chris Bosh might have eyes for his native Texas and there’s a slim possibility Wade will make good on his flirtation with his hometown Chicago Bulls, but other than that?
Most of the teams clearing space for 2010 were going to wind up disappointed, anyway, because there sure weren’t going to be 15 players worth max money on the market. Now? At least a dozen are going to wish they had an option remotely as attractive as coming away with Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.
But here’s where it really gets good for the Pistons. While other teams might have pared down to six or seven players under contract to clear their cap space, the Pistons are going into next season with a deep roster already, and Joe D hasn’t yet signed the two veteran free-agent big men he expects to still add – both of them, more than likely, to short-term deals. They’re going to look a lot more attractive to a free agent with a skill that fits the Pistons’ needs, whatever that might be a year from now, than so many of those teams that depleted themselves hoping to be saved by a superstar.
According to lowposts, the Pistons only have a 10% chance of signing Lebron next summer. That's not a highly factual guesstimate, but I think if there was a number placed on the odds, that'd be a pretty accurate prediction (h/t LOD).
I don't think signing Lebron is going to happen, but you can't deny that Dumars, by getting arguably two of the best free agents available this summer, has put the Pistons in a tremendous position for attracting free agents next summer.
No matter what happens next summer, though, the Pistons won't be a team that comes out of the Summer of Lebron with nothing, but a depleted roster and lots of money.
(h/t to @JoannePistonFan for the link to the Langlois piece)
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I Agree....
…..with you on the signing were good becasue next years stars will mostly resign…..Also there will be 8 – 19 teams going for the same stars…..not very good odds.
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 1:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Langlois numbers
Keith’s numbers seem off. Maybe for fluff purposes.
If Joe traded Rip for Boozer, without an extension, then the Pistons would have much more than the MLE to work with. Keith disregards the fact that Kwame’s contract expires as well as Oberto’s salary slot. Which is another $6+ million.
I think these two links are the least the Pistons would have in cap monies, depending on BG’s contract.
The first, with Gordon making the $55 million widely reported.
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r118/DD2K/PistonsSalary-Rip-Boozertrade.jpg
The second, with the $58 million some blogger in Chicago thinks he’s making(of which I am very skeptical of).
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r118/DD2K/PistonsSalaryRip-Boozertrade.jpg
So, that’s wither $44.5 or $45 million in committed salaries. Keith putting out the $50 million salary cap is more fluff(imo). It’s almost impossible for the cap to drop that amount. America would have to go into the Great Depression II, and that isn’t happening.
Putting the figures together, and the fact that the TV revenue is already there and can’t be changed next year(which accounts for most of the BRI), the most the cap would drop(realistically) is to $55.2 million. Which would leave the Pistons with at least $10 million in cap space next season.
Where Keith is right is the fact that there will be a lot of players available that are good players. Let go from teams wanting to lure the big names . The Pistons have $10 million to offer would go a long way into grabbing one of the second tier players available.
So while Langlois does make some good points, he packs it around a bunch of fluff.
by Dave Dial on Jul 20, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The next bailout is coming to the NBA
The Cap is not coming down that much, and if it does Lebron will never win a Championship because he will takeup half the cap himself
by JMW62689 on Jul 20, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great research
10 million can net us a pretty good big man, I wish Boozer would accept a small (and deserved) paycut and take a deal starting at 10mil. If not we’d have to find somebody like Villanueva to sign, which isn’t bad at all. We won’t get Amare or Bosh, but we could end up with a guy like Przybilla, Aldridge or maybe Tyrus Thomas.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Jul 20, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aldridge......
……Is going to be a beast
by BennieBladesFan on Jul 20, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I’m not sure how likely we’d be to get Aldridge for only 10 million, considering all the cap Trailblazers will have, It probably won’t happen, still anything’s possible if we can cut more cap (maybe a Tayshaun deal?)
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Jul 20, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amare
wouldnt touch him with a 10 foot pole. He’s a cancer.
Would love to have Bosh though as long as he didnt have to carry the team he would be great.
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by davw83 on Jul 21, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cancer?
What would make you say that? The kid wants to win. People said the same thing about Kobe Bryant too.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Jul 21, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wants to win
He doesnt want to win badly enough to play defense.
I dont like him. Just judging by comments he has made publicly he seems to be selfish and all about his contract. If he isnt the “man” on his team he is disinterested. I dont like players like that.
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by davw83 on Jul 22, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he doesn't play defense
But I’m not sure about the “man” thing, he was obviously a better offensive player than Shaq, yet Kerr was insistent upon making Shaq the number 1 big man in the offensive scheme. It was ridiculous because Amare could do so much more than Shaq.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Jul 22, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaq
Im not saying he was worse than shaq or sholuldnt have been the focal point. Im saying I dont like his attitude and think he is selfish and more concerned with getting his than winning a championship. Not a Detroit type guy IMO.
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by davw83 on Jul 22, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joe did say he wants "character" guys
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by Packey on Jul 22, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Langlois
Keith has a lot to contribute but he’s a yes man. He’s employed by the Pistons he’s not going to be too critical.
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by davw83 on Jul 21, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he's never going to take a jump on rumors
He’s employed by the Pistons, so he’s not going to take any risks. Usually when something comes from Langlois’s mouth, it’s about a 99% certainty because he doesn’t want to be credited with jumping on an erroneous lead. Notice how he’s said nothing about the Rasho/Wallace debate, he didn’t publish anything when we were rumored to discussing an 11mil deal with Gordon (before the free agency period) he leaves all that to the blogs.
We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne
by detpistons3 on Jul 21, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
But we can’t fault him for that. In fact, often times because he works directly for the Pistons what he has to say should be taken very seriously. So, like in this case, when he says to ignore Boozer rumors and that the Pistons are putting themselves in a good position for “The Summer of Lebron,” it’s worth mentioning to the fans to make sure they know and don’t waste time speculating over it. Even here, though, by even mentioning the fact the Pistons are in a good position for next summer, it evokes curiosity and ultimately speculation on who we might get the rest of this summer and next summer. Don’t let the fact that he works directly for the Pistons and won’t bash the organization in any way deter you from reading his stuff and developing opinions from it.
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by Packey on Jul 22, 2009 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Langlois was right..
Considering the increase in our current players contracts. That is why he calculated we would not have much for cap space. Stuckey, Rip, BG, CV…. and so on. Most of our players have annual increases. The thought of $10 mill. in cap space is exciting, but not going to happen. I do agree that our moves we made this summer will still pay off next year. Tay will be in his final yr. Hopefully at least 2 of our 3 SF’s that we drafted will pan out, making it an easy decision to trade Tay, and shed some salary. I think we all know that we are stuck with Rip. I am very excited about this upcoming season.. GO PISTONS!!!
by dab_sparks on Jul 22, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like his writing
You can learn a heck of a lot about the mechanics of the NBA and contract rules by reading his work.
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by davw83 on Jul 22, 2009 8:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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