Report: Joe Dumars Turns Down Celtics Latest Trade Offer

by Packey on Jul 22, 2009 3:20 AM EDT in Detroit Pistons News

Joe Dumars reportedly turned down yet another offer from the Boston Celtics.

The proposed deal had the Pistons sending power forward Jason Maxiell and a future first round draft pick to the Celts for Glen Davis and D-League talents J.R. Giddens and Gabe Pruitt. Is it any surprise that Joe Dumars immediately pulled the plug?

This was the first story I read regarding the trade and the question at the end was my thought exactly. Essentially, this trade is the Celtics dumping a couple guards on the Pistons, who have plenty of guards, and then asking for Mad Max and a first round pick for Big Baby.

Personally, I think Mad Max for Big Baby straight up might not be far fetched, but adding in a first round draft pick is too much and definitely warranted an immediate rejection. There's an outside chance the Pistons could be a lottery team next season, so giving up a potential lottery pick for Glen Davis does not whet my whistle one bit.

In my book, that's two bad trade offers from the Celtics this summer. That kills my buzz.

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who does danny ainge think he is

mitch kupchack ?

by matthewmafa on Jul 22, 2009 4:23 AM EDT reply actions

Even Maxiell For Davis....

…..Is a no for me…..Maxiell is coming into his own…..Davis isnt going to be much in my opinion…..You need guys like Max around to do the dirty work…..I dont want a cry baby doing that

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 22, 2009 9:32 AM EDT reply actions

I dont unserstand what goes through some GM's heads.

Who in their right mind would think that’s a good trade?

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by davw83 on Jul 22, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions

I suppose there is no harm in trying.

Who would have thought the Jeremy Roenick trade out of Chicago for a pop machine and three sets of those garbage pail kids cards would have flown? Maybe the hope is to catch the opposing GM in some sort of light headed state and get a response without really looking at it.

by IowaLion on Jul 22, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I think ever since the KG trade

Ainge thinks he can get away with crazy trades like this from everyone

I once defended the managerial styles of Jerry Narron after a Reds loss in a bar after a long night of drinking. I wish I could say that I don't remember doing that.

by chazerize on Jul 22, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions

the first round pick is a bit much

but Maxiell for Davis would be heavily in Detroit’s favor every day of the week.

There’s no comparison between Davis and Maxiell on the offensive end, and on the defensive side they’re both undersized (draw).

I think everybody dislikes Davis just because he’s a Celtic. Davis was amazing in the playoffs last year and he’s still plenty young. About 3 years younger than Max.

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by wennington on Jul 22, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions

Max is a bett defender than Davis

He’s longer even if a tad shorter.

I think Davis is a better offensive player. He has a much nicer jumper.

I think they are a draw.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jul 22, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions

Stop smoking crack Detroit fans

This trade is in Bostons favor only because you are all aware the C’s are much better and you are still crying cause they may win 40 more games than the pistons when its all done and your draft pick might be nice because of it. You forget that Giddens will be better than either Max or Davis 1 and a half years from now or you just never knew this to be true-Giddens is rare for a guard-though he lacks a good jump shot he is very athletic and in a couple years could be Dwayne Wade like on the defensive end.

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by Greg S on Jul 22, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions

So you think Detroit will only win 10-20 games and be one of the worst teams in NBA history?

And you are predicting Giddens will be a Dwyane* Wade-like defender? Who’s smoking crack!? Greg, I think you’re seeing things out of this New Mexico guy, who was drafted 30th overall and only played in 8 minutes total his rookie season, that nobody else sees or has seen in the past.

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by Packey on Jul 22, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Ya’ll Detroit fans still want to talk about that bad boys stuff of the 90’s! Isiah Thomas has retired and your 2002 title was a fluke! Giddens could have been an easy top 10 pick if it wasn’t for a dirty laundry expedition. He’ll be a better all around player then Hamilton or Rodney Stuckey! Stay with hockey!!

by papps91 on Aug 10, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions

This is exactly why I hate the Celtics and their fans...

They know absolutely nothing about basketball and think their GM is a god (not to mention most of them are bandwagoners from the KG/Ray Allen trade).

by ZWC11 on Jul 23, 2009 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Kind of true...

For all the Boston teams.

I once defended the managerial styles of Jerry Narron after a Reds loss in a bar after a long night of drinking. I wish I could say that I don't remember doing that.

by chazerize on Jul 23, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Odd logic you got there regarding the draft

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by davw83 on Jul 22, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions

trade not draft

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by davw83 on Jul 22, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions

Big Baby came up huge for the C's

In the playoffs Big Baby played like the big man he is! He is close to 300 lbs. with lots of muscle!! Maybe an inch taller than Maxiell. I’ll take Big Baby’s offense over Max’s defense. I want him in a pistons uniform. I say Max and a second round pick for Big Baby.

by dab_sparks on Jul 22, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions

I'm ok with Big Baby

Not for the offer we got, but I’d be okay with a Maxiell for Big Baby trade of some sort.

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by Packey on Jul 22, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey Celtics

How about one million dollars for my used milk cartons! What is the Celtics GM smoking? This summers trade offers resemble the deal Dickie V made for a washed up Bob MaCadooo’nt make that trade!

by Marcmargolis on Jul 23, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions

I see

Maxiell getting better while I think big baby has reached his peak. Big Baby is a fat ass. The only way his game is going to improve is if he loses some weight and maybe stop crying.

by madpoopz on Jul 23, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions

baby v.s maxiell

the celtics offered this trade im assuming becasue they are not interested in signing baby for the amount of money he will get, and they feel his talent would be wasted spending it on the bench behind kg, perk, and rasheed. They most likely feel that maxiell is a better role player than davis, davis might have put up big numbers in the playoffs becaue he was playing 35+ minutes per game. maxielle is more on a level of a leon powe i feel besides his defense baby is by far better. a trade big baby for maxiell would be a good trade for both sides pistons get a guy that can put up good numbers and play a big role on the team the celtics get a role player in maxiell, and pistons get a good prospect in giddens and a chance in pruitt, for a first round pick which is redicilous a second round pick and the deal would ave been done first round picks r 2 valuable danny is getting a little ahead of him self. And the pistons fans that thing baby is at his peak r retarted prity much like the rest of detroit hes been in the league for half as long as maxiell and has already passed him in talent maxielle is at best a role player by the end of 2010 baby will be putting up 20 points per game maxielle 8 maybe

by celtics88 on Jul 24, 2009 3:35 AM EDT reply actions