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Pistons at Spurs Game Thread

Coming off a competitive effort against the Mavericks, the Pistons now have the opportunity to play San Antonio, on the road, in the second game of a back-to-back.  

Game tips at 8:30 pm ET

Detroit Pistons: 11-22 (3-14 Road)

San Antonio Spurs: 20-12 (14-5 Home)

Oppo Research

Once again, the Spurs have been written off by the chattering class.  Once again, they have demonstrated that they are able to compete with the best of the west, despite only playing their big three and average of 87 mpg total. 

I'll spare you my "research" on Tony Parker, Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.  We know what they do.  As usual, the Spurs have surrounded them with an intriguing cast of complimentary players.  That cast includes Richard Jefferson and our (once) very own Antonio McDyess.  Both have been modest disappointments, though McDyess typically plays his best minutes after the all-star break, and Jefferson seems to be improving as he gets more comfortable.

Less disappointing has been the play of "The Right" DeJuan Blair.  He leads his team in rebounds per 40 minutes, which is surprising to precisely 29 people.  He and McDyess have allowed Duncan to get some unprecedented rest.  Other than that, this team is vintage Spurs.  Duncan is the inside threat, Tony and Manu handle the ball, and the rest of the team fetches rebounds or pops out for open three pointers.

The Drama

McDyess has noted that he doesn't understand the decision to trade Chauncey Billups for Allen Iverson.  Dude, all we did was trade one of the best guards of the decade at both ends of the floor for a selfish little punk who doesn't play defense.  What's not to get? Antonio McDyess clearly does not understand basketball.

Keys for Detroit

Ben Gordon Needs Redemption - I fail to see how this is any less true now than it was last night.  

Get something from three point range - I'm going to hide this in the two spot so maybe Mike Payne won't notice it.  Last night, Detroit shot 5-17 from three point range, even though Charlie V. went 4-6! That's 1-11 for the rest of the team.  

Find Charlie V. on the inside - It seems counterintuitive, what with Tim Duncan and all, but truth be told, they have been vulnerable to younger frontcourt players (e.g. Beasley and Bosh).

Question of the Game

When will it stop? I'm on my last pint of vodka, and this gun only has so many empty chambers.

Valuable Links

Pounding The Rock.  Spurs blog madnees.  Go see!

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"It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game."

That’s a load of bull shit. We win and we win now.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

That'd be a good pep talk

short and sweet

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Jason Maxiell starting

Jonas out… interesting switch

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

I don't blame Kuester

I’d hate to see Jerebko on Blair…

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it made sense to me

the instant I saw Blair posting up Max

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Can someone explain to me

Why Antonio McDyess and DeJuan Blair are wearing the wrong uniforms?

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

I've seen more smooth offensive moves

out of Ben Wallace in the last two games than I’ve seen out of him his entire career. Those layups are looking straight sexy.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

I hate Ginobili

.00001% less since he lost that retarded haircut.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

facepalm

….that was the joke.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it's like writing

“i hate the amish” on the internet

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

oh and funny enough

I own the domain “fucktheamish.com”

…i’m not kidding.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I instantly went to it

you should at least have an amish person wearing a photoshopped construction hat up on the site

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

totally

I want to develop it, but haven’t yet. I thought it would be funny to create a site where people could submit comments, 140 character twitter style, saying ridiculously mean things about Amish people. I have nothing against Amish people, but think its hilarious that they couldn’t read it, in theory anyway.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

gold, jerry

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Amish guy, you lack electricity on purpose

4 out of 5 doctors think that’s gayyyyyy!

by Kevin Sawyer on Jan 6, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

rec’d the hell out of this one

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Amish Guy

Raising a barn with 20 other shirtless Amish dudes?

that’s gaaayyyyy!!!!

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yo, Amish guy, what's up with those Frito Lay products?

I find that @#$% hypocritical, though not necessarily gay.

by Kevin Sawyer on Jan 6, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

hahahahahaha +1 rec

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yo Amish guy, a clarification

While your Frito Lay consumption is not necessarily gay, it is also not necessarily not gay. On balance, having considered your life choices in general, I am forced to conclude that you are totally gayyyyyy!

by Kevin Sawyer on Jan 6, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Frito Lays

Why must your Fritos brand chips contain so much saturated fat?

That’s, well, harming both the hetero and homo communities.

That’s gaaaaaalien.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

great...

what does that make me?

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So i've got this routine

I watch Pistons games with a mini-basketball that I flip around, spin on my finger and dribble, in celebration, while I watch basketball. Every time the Pistons make a good basket or get a good stop, I dribble that mini-basketball four times.

I’ve never once dribbled that ball for another team. But I just did so, four times, on that offensive rebound and tip in by McDyess. If it has ever been true, that man will forever be a Piston.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

…yeah, I miss the hell out of that guy. I think I might buy a Dyess jersey.

by Other Matt on Jan 6, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

very true

I don’t know why, but I feel … sad seeing him in that jersey. Not mad, sad.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

Sean Elliott

I assume that’s Sean Elliott doing the analysis for the Spurs. No matter how much I want to like him or how many times he’s right, his voice sounds way too much like Reggie Miller for me to take him seriously.

Oh, and now we’re talking 2005 Game 7, that’s sweet. I’m going to go barf now.

by Other Matt on Jan 6, 2010 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Spurs Announcers...

…ask Denver how that WCF collapse and no-show by Big Shot felt. ARGH.

by Other Matt on Jan 6, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

At least Charlie

looks a bit more honest about his “but I didn’t foul him!” look than Amir Johnson. I suppose comparing foul prowess to Amir Johnson is not the most friendly comparison… Man up, CV.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

I've seen a handful of weak ass calls tonight

don’t have to blow the whistle every time a guy grimaces or throws up a circus shot…

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

How dare you, Packey

Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili work HARD, harder than you or I could imagine, to please his majesty Stern to be granted the magic golden whistle of the referee kingdom. And by “please”, I mean “oral”.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

RJ

Despite the presence of Ginobili, I find Jefferson the most contemptible player on that team. How is that possible?

by Other Matt on Jan 6, 2010 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

It's because he's a dick...

both figuratively and realistically.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Charlie V

Puttin’ in work on the offensive glass. Nice to see.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

It stems from his days at Arizona

I read a story a long long time ago about RJ, Gilbert Arenas, and Jason Gardner at the NBA pre-draft camp. Long story short, Gil and RJ teased the shit out of Gardner and went out of their way to embarrass him in front of everybody at the camp. I always hated both those guys after that because I always thought Gardner was the heart and soul of those Arizona teams.

I also ran into a guy who worked for the Nets at a friend’s wedding and he assured me that while his parents were wonderful people, RJ was the biggest asshole to ever walk the face of the earth. Or something like that, anyway.

by Other Matt on Jan 6, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

"strokin' the 3 ball"

chalk that up for a banned phrase… I don’t care what Manu does in his free time with an Amish guy and Lance Armstrong

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

Looking at the box score.... Stuckey hit a 3?

I must have been reading the Amish comments when that happened… it came about 24 hours late

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry guys, he was just talking about his decision to leave Detroit for Texas. He started to get teary, and quickly diverted to about how his family lives in Texas, it was the right move for his family, etc.

But he and Kelser were both teary … it was actually tough to watch.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Couldn’t really tell, tbh. Looked like he may have landed awkwardly, but there wasn’t a good camera angle replay.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ben Gordon

Only played 9 minutes in the first half.

I realize he had two fouls … but that’s far too few minutes, idn’t it?

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

the Frog Prince goes for the crowd surf...

and gives us the ball. Thank you Frog Prince.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

we were speaking of retards earlier...

Spurs announcers call Tim, “Timmy”:

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Retard Comments

I mentored and tutored a “retard” for two years while in seminary. For his sake, I’d appreciate it if we could lay of those comments.

I realize they were in jest, but I’d appreciate it if we could end them.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

No

I went to seminary intending to get a PhD in Philosophy or Theology. My dad is though.

Long story short, I ended up graduating from seminary but pursuing a career outside the church (for now).

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I realize it was all in jest, and I’m not trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

But I love the kid that I tutored; he literally changed my life.

One day, one of his classmates called him a retard. He cried for hours.

IMO, the word “retard” is just as offensive and just as much a slur as the word “nigger.”

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I tutored "mentally challenged" students, too

Timmy is a fictional character and I don’t think anyone here is “stupid” enough to actually call a real person that has a mental disability, “retarded.”

Carry on…

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Want a trophy, princess?

For three years, I volunteered at a physically and mentally handicapped organization that provided daily care with monetary compensation for those who couldn’t find jobs in the working world. Basically, after a disabled person graduates from an elementary ed program, they have an opportunity to earn minimum wage in some charitable organizations that help them earn a human wage by providing a service that can gives a sense of purpose. I spent my summers there helping facilitate that process, making more ants on a log snacks than I can count.

I’m not looking for a handjob for this, not by any means. If you’re gonna drop your service, I’ll respond accordingly. But to get butthurt by the term “retard” is just silly. Does anyone here who says the word “retard” really mean it as a knock on disabled people?

Doing so is… wait for it… retarded.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

well since we're identifying the "slower" ones in our lives...

my brother is one of the “slower” ones.

He’s older than me and yet I’ve spent my life playing older brother, best friend, and basically father to him. I don’t know if anyone is closer to a retard than me on this site, but I do not see the offense in the term.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike, I’m not sure what’s up your ass. I have no idea what I did to get on your bad side. Whatever it was, my bad. But I’m sick you and your smart ass comments toward me.

All I did was respectfully ask if we could drop the “retard” comments. Nothing more. Nothing inflammatory. No insults. I’m not “butthurt.” I just asked if people would drop the conversation.

I’m glad you volunteered. That’s awesome. Sounds like you did some great work for some people who greatly needed your help.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

dude

who was the first person to say “retard” in this thread? Should I not feel singled out?

And is this kind of thing new for you? Take for example the “as rodney stuckey goes” when that was a rephrasing of my entire talking point on CV? it’s like you unconsciously act catty, and you’re entirely unawares.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Should I not feel singled out?

To answer your question honestly: I have no idea. I skipped over that section, but I couldn’t help notice it grow and grown.

Okay, Mike. So far I’m “butthurt” and “catty.”

Who’s the one holding on to a comment I made a month (?) ago? Geez, Mike.\, I already told you I don’t even remember you making the comment first — that’s the truth — and I told you it wasn’t in any way a jab at you.

And what’s with taking it so fracking personally? It’s an argument about which basketball player is more important to the success of the Pistons? Let it go.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Settle down ladies

Gulker – I can assure you that Mike Payne has nothing but respect for you and your contributions here. The issue, I think, is that you are referring to a term that has (rightly or wrongly) developed a colloquial viz. dysphemism. As such, in using the term, the user typically understands the potential for offense, and understands the reason for such offense.

Your comment seems to ignore context, and comes of as sanctimonious at best, and condescending at worst. Introducing your own service comes off as a sort of entitlement. It really isn’t relevant to the question of what words are and are not acceptable.

Mike – You are flatly overreacting. The request not to use the word “retard” is pretty commonplace. There is some merit to the idea that we ought not use the word to denote the worst possible state of being, and it is not an unreasonable proposition.

by Kevin Sawyer on Jan 6, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Kevin, here’s what I originally said:

I mentored and tutored a "retard" for two years while in seminary. For his sake, I’d appreciate it if we could lay of those comments.

I realize they were in jest, but I’d appreciate it if we could end them.

“Introducing my service” was simply to establish that I wasn’t whining but to explain that it’s a personal issue for me. I take it personally when that word gets used.

I didn’t “ignore context” either. I tried to minimize any reaction by acknowledging that it was all in jest to begin with, that I was intentionally trying not to overreact, and politely asking people to stop using the word.

But whatever, now the molehill has certainly become a mountain.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand where you’re coming from. Just try to understand where he’s coming from. At a certain point (and, I think, a comment thread on a sports blog is one of those certain points) people have to be given some leeway to express themselves as they see fit. Otherwise we are left with neutered commentary.

by Kevin Sawyer on Jan 6, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont' know how I didn't see this earlier

but yeah, you’re right on. I was overreacting, I saw a pattern of comments from dude and may have overreacted, in spite of what I thought was justified. I think Colin M gave the best defense of not using that term in his comment, mad respect to him.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely mad respect to Colin

That sneaky devil joined the community solely to post that, so he definitely had to get it off his chest.

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Colin M

should write our commenting guidelines. his shit was spot on (I said shit in case it’s outlawed in the future!)

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

No rules, just right

Thanks for the props gentleman. However, I like that DBB doesn’t really have a commenting policy except for something to the effect of: “Don’t be stupid.” I think both MP and The Gulk are valuable members – they just happened to lose their shit yesterday.

Also, I didn’t join the community just to post that. I posted over at the old site for a couple of years under the name Colin, but I’ve been really busy lately and the losing streak put a damper on my enthusiasm. Nothing like a catty argument to bring me out of hiding.

by Colin M on Jan 7, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing like a catty argument to bring me out of hiding.

That’s what I’m here for, buddy! :)

by Mike Payne on Jan 7, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, and yesterday

you whining about my game threads? i didn’t need to write that shit, i’m not paid for this, i certainly don’t do it for you to question my intent.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Insecure much?

So someone complained about one little thing in your game thread. Hardly the first time someone’s complained in blog comments, don’t you think?

I didn’t question your intent, either. I just found it odd to see a plug for the opposition’s blog in a regular season game thread.

Again, don’t take it personally. Let it go. It wasn’t personal.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Man

finger pointing is fun when you were whining about name calling just moments earlier. Insecure? Hardly, but holy hell you love whining about some Mike Payne. Sure, it might be a coincidence that it was me who mentioned the word retard first, it might be a coincidence that on my last game thread you were the only one to complain, it might be a coincidence that you repeated my talking point over and over and over and I coincidentally got annoyed— after a month, but I don’t think I’m crazy to think you’re being catty.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Goodbye, Mike Payne.

Get over yourself, bud. Seriously.

You need to get a grip. Believe it or not, none of those things were about you. They were all coincidences.

If you don’t believe me, fine. But I’m not going to waste any more time trying to tell you how it actually was.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll gladly

Chill the hell out and not take any concern at all with any comment you make. Maybe I need meds? I don’t know, I’ll get my head checked if need be. Either its a coincidence that I see you gettin’ all catty, or I need a brain check. There’s a record of comments here, though, and looking back it seems that the catty diagnosis fits better than the alternative. But hey, if I can rest easy knowing you won’t be catty going forward, I’m all good. We can rock out with our, well, nevermind.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Geez, Mike. You have got to let the whole Rodney vs. Charlie thing go.

I did NOT mean anything by it. You’re seeing something in my comments that simply isn’t there.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I must be out of my mind

I said something here on DBB, and within 24 hours you co-opted my talking point and repeated it god knows how many times since then. Had you not done that, fucking constantly for weeks on end, do you think I would have taken offense? Whether it was a mistake or not, hell man, shit was annnnoooyyying, let alone tough not to take personally.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Let it go, Mike.

I’ve apologized several times and told you several times it wasn’t intentional.

Believe it or not, Mike Payne is not the motivating factor behind my DBB comments …

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I really don't

feel like I’m out of my mind about that.

The last time we interacted on here, you were complaining about my game thread. The next time, after that, you complained about this:

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2010/1/6/1237420/pistons-at-spurs-game-thread#28341561

Immediately following, you complained about my usage of the word retard.

Just take a step back and look at that. The last three times you’ve referenced MFMP, you’ve complained. Am I absolutely crazy, or is that a bit too accurate for comfort?

I don’t enjoy clogging up game threads looking like a whiny bitch, but seriously, 1, 2, 3 in a row and they’re all about MFMP. Whether or not that’s coincidental, hey, if you werent’ aware of it before you are now.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If you read that as a complaint

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2010/1/6/1237420/pistons-at-spurs-game-thread#28341561

You read it wrong. You had what, five or six replies in a row to yourself! I thought it was funny, so I jabbed.

As in, “Hey buddy, you enjoying that conversation with yourself?” (SARCASM)

I’m not complaining about you. I’m joking with you.

And this is the last thing I’ll say about your recent game thread (because I can’t respond to you on FB at work):

You’re an editor of a blog. People gripe about blogs in the comments all the time. It wasn’t personal. I wasn’t complaining. I was joking around. There is no need for you to take that personally.

Now, you’ve alerted me that it annoys you when people complain about your comments, so I will stop complaining about your comments if I don’t agree — because I’m not out to annoy you or anyone else.

I’ve alerted you that there was no vindictive intent on my part, and I didn’t mean anything personal. So for god’s sake, stop taking it that way. For all the “princess” insults you throw around, you’re about as sensitive as they come.

For the last time, I don’t dislike you. I’m not trying to annoy you. I’m not trying to co-op your talking points. I enjoy reading your posts and interacting with you on DBB. I’m asking you to stop taking my comments in a way that I didn’t intend them so that we can get over this mess and be done with it.

Deal?

by brgulker on Jan 7, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

inflection and tone

are lost in web text, so joking and fun can be misread. I thought I perceived a pattern of pot shots from you in the recent weeks, but I’ll take your word for it that I misread you.

As for the comment on the game thread the other day, I wouldn’t have cared had anyone else said it, but as I said I noted a pattern of complaints from you and was getting tired of it.

Deal— I’ll take your word for it and accept that I have misread you.

/takes a midol
//curles up with a bowl of ice cream
///watches a “Friends” rerun
////whipes off the tears and gets back to the blog :)

by Mike Payne on Jan 7, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and while we're on it...

ba. you whining about my game threads? i didn’t need to write that shit, i’m not paid for this, i certainly don’t do it for you to question my intent.

Reading over that again it sounds even more ridiculous.

I make a comment that you don’t like, so you mock me by including me in the post itself (for the 2nd time, mind you). It was an overreaction, and since we’re being honest, I didn’t appreciate it.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting mocked in a post is an approriate response when someone disagrees with and complains about what you write?

Overreaction, Mike.

I can take friendly jabbing. But it’s not friendly jabbing anymore. You’re just being a dick.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought for sure

adding you into the post was friendly jabbing. I could be wrong, and I might look wrong now, but I’ll re-post what Kevin said, which I think is the right: “Mike Payne has nothing but respect for you and your contributions here.”

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

quite true

While I might very much be making an ass of myself right now (although I do contend that it is warranted), I very much respect brgulker and his comments. I’ve said so many times, but DBB is a much, much better place with Brgulker around. He is, in my opinion, easily once of DBB’s best, most valuable community members. The new system here is only going to prove how excellent his analysis and voice can be here.

I still think he’s a prick, but he’s a loveable, valuable, respectful prick. He’s that guy I love to hate and hate to love. bear hug for gulks

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks, Mike

Now please, please realize — I didn’t intend to hijack your talking point.

I’m not trying to save face. … it was entirely accidental.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Chucky Atkins

fouls a lot. and turns the ball over a lot. more than his stats would suggest.

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Why weren’t we doing that the whole game?

by Kevin Sawyer on Jan 6, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

oh lord...

their throwing up triples. Going to the angry dome.

angrydome

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

what is it with you and futurama?

don’t get me wrong, i dig it, it’s kind of your personal trademark. but why? :)

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I just love the show...

and I see futurama references in everything.

heres my thought process with that one.

I just saw a 3 go up for no real reason. That makes me angry. Haha, I remember that episode where Professor Farnsworth goes into the angry dome. Hey! I got something with that in my photobucket account!

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said

I love it. I’ve seen the show, what, three or four times? But still, its inspired me to want to get some sort of signature of my own. Porn maybe?

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The retarded debate

While I agree that sometimes Brgulker can be a little pedantic and perhaps a little too sensitive some times, I have to say I side with him on this one. Honestly, no amount of volunteer work makes it ok to say derogatory things about the people you volunteered with. I’m not interested in comparing the relative badness of different terms, but I think it drags down the level of debate when we lean on words like gayyyyyy and retard.

Some of those jokes were funny and I chuckled a bit, but it is no way unreasonable for one of our members to ask us to cool it if he’s offended by the comments. I love that DBB is irreverent and eschews censorship, but it might be worthwhile to think about the fact that anybody on here could have a disabled friend or family member or be homosexual. So, if you need those words as a crutch to be funny with – that’s cool, but don’t lash out at someone when they object.

by Colin M on Jan 6, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

In this instance

Using the word gay was simply lampooning those who use the term as the lowest common comedic denominator. There is nothing gay about driving a buggy, is the point.

by Kevin Sawyer on Jan 6, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Understood

I got the joke. It was fairly funny and not really offensive in my opinion. However, gay is tossed around here a lot in a more degrading way. I used to (and still do occasionally on accident) call stuff gay and retarded all the time. I have a fair number of gay friends now and after putting my foot in my mouth enough, I realized it’s really not cool. I conflated that with your amish joke and I shouldn’t have.

by Colin M on Jan 6, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

DUCT TAPE!

Red Green would be proud.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

(peeks out from behind my hands)

is it over yet?

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

I asked this earlier

And still haven’t gotten an answer. Why are Antonio McDyess and DeJuan Blair wearing the wrong jerseys????

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

The tale of two halves

Last night, solid first half. Poor second half.

Tonight, solid first half. Poor second half.

I always wonder when that happens if it’s the result of the opposing coach making adjustments and our coaching staff failing to make adjustments.

I have no idea how to argue or prove that though.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

More specifically: A tale of every other quarter...

strong first, poor 2nd, strong 3rd, gawd awful 4th

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

The hornet's nest I disturbed

I didn’t mean to cause a stir. I didn’t intend to sound high and mighty. I didn’t mean to be condescending. I didn’t mean to make others look bad.

It’s simply that it’s hard for me to hear the word “retard” without taking it personally because of my personal experience.

For those I pissed off tonight, my apologies.

It probably doesn’t help that our Pistons were pissing away a game and generally putting us in a bad mood to start with. Catch you all in the game recap tomorrow.

by brgulker on Jan 6, 2010 11:09 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Well our 4th quarter lineup sucked, thats for sure.

by Kriz on Jan 6, 2010 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

bit OT...

but this thread has no topic so here I go.

I make music and I’m just looking for some opinions on a song I’ve been working on. I make all instrumental music.

Heres the song, input is appreciated. Free download also if you like.

http://www.last.fm/music/Some+Sorta+Giant/_/coustic?autostart

Hope this doesn’t sound like a plug, I make no money for my music anyways.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

totally sounds like a plug

you filthy, uh… looks for something politically correct… jerk? Listening now, and with respect :)

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

nice chord progressions and programming

what software do you use? the inorganic sound of the source material doesn’t do your arrangements justice. if you can find a nice quality guitar virtual instrument it’ll do your mixes a huge favor. the guitars and synth leads overpower your drums, and while it might be the speakers i’m listening on i don’t hear much bass.

it all goes back to the software you use. if you can find a replacement for the guitar and synth lead parts, then maybe a replacement for the drum machine, your mixes would be a step away from professional quality.

note that i only focus on the negative when giving feedback, that shouldn’t take away from my respect for your mixes. they’re great, the chord progressions are well developed and the programming is tight. put good source material and a quality sonic palette on top of that, you’re good to go.

(i used to run a recording studio in chicago and did original music and remixes for pink, jennifer lopez, britney spears and other musicians that i hated with a passion. i no longer work in that business because 1) i wasnt’ good enough and 2) i realized the opportunities for making a living doing it were slim to zero. i may, may make available a terrible britney spears remix i did back in the day for Jive Records, but I’m not that masochistic yet)

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

well...

I use a cheap program called Magix Music Maker Producer Edition.

It works very well for the cost and most of the included instruments are pretty nice. For the guitars I’m thinking about recording my acoustic for those parts over the MIDI instrument just to make it more organic. I’m debating the electric guitar parts because I like the sound I already have with them.

But I appreciate the negative feedback. I never get it so it’s appreciated. Can’t grow if I don’t know what’s wrong.

Someday I’ll upgrade all of my equipment, but I work 20 hours a week in a deli for minimum wage. That’ll come along someday.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

get a cheap USB condenser microphone

and record your acoustic, try all sorts of different techniques and eventually you’ll get something that sounds good. I used a Shure KSM 32 large diaphragm condenser for my acoustic guitar parts, and they sounded stellar. I don’t really play guitar, but I bought a nylon classical guitar and used to lay that over the tracks I’d produce for a nice organic effect.

Also, the best advice I can give— NEVER wait for better gear than you have right now. Better gear will NEVER make you better, you need to do the best with what you have now. If you’re like me, you’ll end up with a dream studio and no inspiration to boot. the more limited the tools, the more creative the outcome the only limits you face due to your minimum wage gig are the ones you set on your own shoulders…

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I appreciate the advice.

and I forgot to mention this: you heard very little bass because there is no bass part. I’m a bass player first and foremost and I conciously decided against one in this song. Kinda weird. I had enough going on that a bass part mostly got lost anyways, even just a simple one. This might change if I get the guitars recorded.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

really it's one of those songs that just came together.

I was just playing 2 chords: Em and C Major (i think; I’m terrible with remembering chord names), and I just decided to add an extra note up high to more or less turn it into a 4 chord progression. I plugged it in on my computer and than I just started clicking in the other parts. (I don’t have a keyboard controller, so I do all the MIDI stuff with my mouse)

I love it when I get a song that starts so simple but morphs into something more. One of the many reasons why I love to make music.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

btw

i listened to the song “coustic”, that’s to what i was referring

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

well I can't give you as much help as MFMP did, but...

it sounded pretty tight — like the end of a slasher film and the credits start to roll (sorry if that’s not what you were going for, but that’s kind of what it made me think of) I know virtually nothing of how to make beats, so I’m only good for giving emotional responses to what you make which is probably what most people buying it are only capable of anyway…

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by Packey on Jan 6, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

an emotional response

is far better than what I can give, MFPack, I learned the hard way that technical encouragement is of very little value in the long run!

by Mike Payne on Jan 6, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I like hearing about what people think about when they hear my music...

A) I think it’s cool to see how peoples minds associate things.

B) It helps give me a bit of direction for the song. If I hear enough similar responses, I’ll know just how far a song can go from my main riff. Since I do (mostly) instrumental music, I try to tell somekind of story with the instrumentation. I generally run a constant riff through a song but to keep things interesting I need to stray away from that main riff. Knowing what people are thinking about when listening to the song gives me an idea as to how far from that riff I can go. Sometimes I can do alot, sometimes I can do very little.

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by madpoopz on Jan 6, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Gilbert Arenas is a big dumb dummy.

by garrettelliott on Jan 7, 2010 12:46 AM EST reply actions  

A big Zero, if you will.

"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd

by Skylar on Jan 7, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Kevin, you have a 10-chambered revolver?

I would like one. That sounds hot sizzlin scorchin torchin and blazing.

/Missed the game.
//Didn’t miss much evidently.
///Missed the DBB thread though.

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by Skylar on Jan 7, 2010 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

I like slam dunk shots.

That really got out of hand fast! Remember, like Virginia, DBB is for lovers. All this losing is making everybody cranky.

by Matt Watson on Jan 7, 2010 6:13 AM EST reply actions  

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