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Awestruck: Thunder 105, Pistons 104

Let's get this out of the way before I start raging again. The final sequence, after Charlie Villanueva put the Pistons up one (their first lead since leading 6-4 in the opening minutes), can be pretty much summed up with two pictures:

Jason Maxiell to Jeff Green... 

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Bold strategy. Down one.

How many seconds left, Ben Gordon?

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That's right, but [behind the back dribble] what are you do... Pistons lose. 

Heartbreaking. Broken living room objects. I haven't had such a high get knocked so far down so fast since "The Process."

It didn't have to end like this, though, if it didn't start the way it did. The Pistons had more turnovers in the first 12-plus minutes of the game than the entire Nets game (8) and had 13 overall in the first half. The Thunder converted those 13 turnovers into 22 points, which was a big reason they were up five at the break. The Pistons turned the ball over just five times in the second half and, in turn, outscored the Thunder 53-49 during the final 24 minutes. 

And what makes this loss even more painful were the wasted games of Rodney Stuckey and Ben Gordon. Rodney Stuckey finished with 24 points, on 10-18 shooting, and nine assists (three turnovers) in 39-plus minutes. It was the best game of his career. He has only two other games during his short career in which he's scored 20-plus points with nine-plus assists, but he shot 32% and 35% in those two games, respectively. He also added five rebounds tonight.  

Ben Gordon's had plenty of games like this in his career, but Pistons fans haven't seen it too often. 32 points on 11-16 shooting in 31-plus minutes. As George Blaha pointed out several times, some of his makes barely touched the net; that's how dead-on he was tonight.

Lastly, you have to feel bad for CV, who had his late, potentially game-winning three pointer wiped out by an even later game-winning bucket. Patrick Hayes at PistonPowered feels me.

Sigh. *Gag*

More stuff after the jump.

Star-divide

 

  • As was the case in the first game, CV was the team leader in plus-minus at plus-eight. He's plus-19 after two games. Tracy McGrady is plus-15 in 19 minutes.
  • Kuester used 13 different lineups tonight, but four of them saw a combined 25 seconds. 
  • The starters, as expected, saw the most court time together (13:08) and were outscored 27-22. 
  • Maxiell, CV, Prince, Stuckey and Gordon saw the second most time together (10:07) and were outscored 19-17. A slightly different, Maxiell, CV, Prince, Rip and Gordon saw two separate chunks of minutes (5:25 overall) and were outscored 10-8. 
  • Maxiell, CV, Prince, Stuckey and Gordon outscored the Thunder 14-13 in the majority of the final 8:08.
  • Kuester started to mix-and-match around the 15 seconds mark.  Here's how it went: Hamilton and Summers in for CV and Maxiell to foul. Maxiell and CV back in for Summers and Hamilton for CV's clutch three. (That's the second straight game Rip has not been on the court when a clutch shot was needed. As I've stressed before, he was the most "clutch" last year and has hit big shots in years past, but, nope, he was used as a defensive body to foul instead). Wallace replaced CV for that final possession.
  • A huge stat discrepancy is found in the FT column: 44 attempts for the Thunder to Detroit's 20. That's going to happen, though, when you can't hang with a team down low and the other team has a superstar who gets superstar treatment. 
  • Pistons were out-rebounded 47-43. Pistons shot 47% (52% eFG) and Thunder shot 39% (40% eFG)
  • Both teams had 16 assists. 
  • I was disappointed with certain possessions down the stretch when the Pistons had a chance to tie it, well before the final minute. For example, down three with 6:51 left, Jason Maxiell took a bad Loy Vaught-baseline shot early in the shot clock. It led to a fast break and BG committed a shooting foul. A minute later, down three, Stuckey grabbed a board and hustled down the court. When it looked like he was going to make a good decision and bring it back up top, he drove into traffic and got blocked. Finally, with three minutes left and down two --  Ben Gordon had scored 12 of the last 16 Pistons' points, Stuckey had the other four -- the Pistons all of a sudden decide to go to CV into the post. He attempts a half-hook and misses. Durant drills a shot on the other end.
  • Jeff Green was as shocked as anybody on that last play -- once he got the ball, Green desperately wanted to pass, which actually served as a great fake. The rest is history. 
  • Another DNP for Greg Monroe. This one is a little more disappointing because Will Bynum was out, so it's one less person in the rotation, even if they don't play the same position. The Pistons can't really play while looking ahead to future games, but they do have another game in less than 24 hours IN Chicago. Monroe probably could've done what Maxiell did most of the night, too. I could've done what Maxiell did on the last possession.
  • Here is the NBA.com box score. 
  • Hoopdata advanced box score.
  • Box score says there were 22,000-plus at The Palace but it didn't look nor sound like it. Further, Vince Goodwill said that fans were leaving with 1:53 left during a four-point game. That's sad, man.
  • I won't be around in the morning or early afternoon, so no morning shootaround. Kid Rock's offering free mustache rides, though.

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Well, it might not feel like it right now

But we’re not going 0-82 this season.

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by heWizard on Oct 30, 2010 5:09 AM EDT reply actions  

In related news

I happened across the Sports Illustrated NBA Preview issue earlier today and they had us as the 7 seed. I consider this a terrible omen.

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by heWizard on Oct 30, 2010 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

The NBA.com video for this game is ALL pistons highlights, thats a good sign

After watching the Gamecast and then watching these videos I am amazed, we have a pretty sick team. Gordon and Stuckey together are an absurdly good back court offensively. Especially when Stuckey dunks on people and yells, where did that come from. I’m almost speechless. I say almost because it wasn’t until the video that I saw the last two seconds, or worse, the last 7 seconds. If Joe D can get something good going in the front court, we’re going to be awesome.

by tads on Oct 30, 2010 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

You mean this yell?

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAH

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 30, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Kuester did a bad job last game down the stretch.

Here, I thought he did a pretty good job switching offense/defense down the stretch. Tough loss.

Stuckey has some sick highlights. As did Gordon. Hopefully, this game is indicative of the backcourt play we can expect in the future.

by Quick Darshan on Oct 30, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

The idiots

At 97.1FM they were saying they honestly thought the Lions had a better chance at making the playoffs than the Pistons. I know the Pistons arent who they use to be but has missed the playoffs once in the last 8 years. The Lions no playoffs since Barry frinkin’ Sanders. Those guys lost all credibility with that statement.

I see the Pistons with the 7 or 8 seed and if they get hot maybe 4 or 5. Stuckey looked great last nigh and if he keeps up that kind of play the Pistons will make the playoffs.

Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.

by VikesPma on Oct 30, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

on a positive note

team looks competitive. cv, bg, and stuckey. when they suck it is bleak. when they don’t there is hope.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 30, 2010 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I was at the game thanks to last minute tickets

It did not seem full and definitely not 22k full. I noticed a lot of empty seats. The game was quiet from the start. I think I was the only person in my immediate section to jump out my seat when CV hit that 3.

Gordon and Stuck were great. They each had a couple of cross overs that made their defenders look dumb. Durant is awesome to watch live. The team played hard but just seemed like they lacked some continuity. They were slow in transition and tried to force it causing turnovers. RIP in particular made a number of bad passing plays. The foul calls for the Thunder were just stupid. I didn’t always look for the replay on the screen, but a couple in particular were just really bad calls. The one on Daye when Durant shot the fadeaway and fell and then one on Prince after that. This was our game, too bad it ended on a bad note like that. Maxiell gave Green so much room it wasn’t even funny. He should of just bodied him up as soon as he got the ball on the perimeter and eat up as much time as possible.

by FunkyDonut on Oct 30, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Not all Maxiel's fault

I liked the comment in the game thread – nothing good was going to happen with Maxiel covering a faster open court player in a sequence like that. Having said that, Maxiel couldn’t have bodied him up because he got caught on a Durant screen, and yes Durant was moving like Atlas van lines. Lets hope that somewhere down the line Stuckey and Gordon start getting treated like they deserve (Duane Wade rules) and not like they’ve been getting.

by gordbrown on Oct 30, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

You spelled

Dwyaywyane wrong. Just sayin.

by Other Matt on Oct 30, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

things to note...

I got to watch most of the 4th and what I saw was a team putting their body on the line. And the emotion by Stuckey was a real breath of fresh air. If he wants to be the leader of this team he needs that emotion night in and night out regardless of how well he is playing.

by madpoopz on Oct 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I cannot believe Monroe didn't get in this game

Stuckey was incredibly surprising. Like everyone else said, he and BG had great games. I think over the first two games Tay has played really well. Ben Wallace is a force like usual.

Then there’s the power forward position…We have Daye, CV, Maxiell, and Monroe. The first three are three awesome guys to have as your backup power forward, but not as a starter. I think we should throw Monroe in there for 20 minutes a game and see what he can do. If he doesn’t look promising, we need to trade for a quality 4 man.

Also, I thought McGrady played well for what he tried to do.

I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.

by Roll The Dyess on Oct 30, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Let the Moose loose!

Favre: It's rare to ever see a QB be so indecisive, waffle...
It's also unlikely to have one start 19 consecutive seasons.

by VikesPma on Oct 30, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Monroe was awful this preseason. Not trying to hate, but he really was. I don’t mind him riding the pine until he proves he’s ready for the NBA.

by brgulker on Oct 30, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Durant is the first game that I see take a shot and makes me thing the ball is floating.

I can’t explain it, most guy throw the ball, shoot it. He sort of floats it as if it came out of his hands, effortless.

I’m not on drugs.

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by Kriz on Oct 30, 2010 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Good God

first guy*

Makes me think*

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by Kriz on Oct 30, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree Kriz

KD has the most effortless release, I mean even when he shoots from like half its the same as like a 15ft jumper for him. Beautiful.

by Rban on Oct 30, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I really only saw the first quarter.

Because I was out getting drunk at a Halloween STP cover band extravaganza. But when I saw the highlights I almost came UNGLUED.

Ha! Get it?

by TDP on Oct 30, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Why does a Halloween STP cover band seem so surreal to me?

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 30, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was pretty boobies.

Three bands covering Deftones, STP and Tool. E’rybody was pretty schwasted by the Tool set. But the Forty-Six & 2 kicked my ass.

by TDP on Oct 30, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not an enormous Tool fan (I appreciate how complex and good they are though) but I bet that Tool cover band wrecked.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 30, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why, Maxiel why?

Why give up the lane so easily? Play up, take the right side away, and force someone who was struggling most of the night and who was panicking to shoot over you or force him to the middle where you had help. Gah! Oh and not to nit pick but that was BG that got blocked toward the end not Stuck. Is it just me or is Rip starting to look like he’s in the way? Monroe will play TONIGHT, if you know what’s best for you…

by wolvertan on Oct 30, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Rodney

It seems that, however early in the season it is, Stuck is converting inside MUCH better than last season. He’s making shots that I just don’t see him making last year. That dunk on Sefolosha, that give and go with Big Ben, and others. I’m hoping this lasts all year and Stuck scores like he did last year, but much more efficiently (Not 40% field goal)

by CodyB on Oct 30, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I've always wondered why he doesn't dunk much

Clearly he can get above the rim because he’s had a few nasty dunks, especially the one against Thabeet. It would make him a lot harder to guard, as clearly dunks have a high success rate, but more importantly it makes him more versatile on his drives. If he can rise above defenders and slam it in their faces every so often, it will force shotblockers closer to the rim, allowing him easy floaters.

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by bearded thundar on Oct 30, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t he break his hand dunking once? That’s the rumor I heard.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 30, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He broke his hand

In the preseason of his rookie year. He got it caught on an opposing player’s jersey, if I remember correctly. That’s not to say that he didn’t break his hand dunking previous to that injury.

by Other Matt on Oct 30, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

sick stuckey crossover

i can see a win anytime soon, could be tonight! go pistons!!

by JohnAbruzzi on Oct 30, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Tonight, Pistons they get their first win.

I can feel it.

I’ve been known to being wrong though.

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by Kriz on Oct 30, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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