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Comments on a Young Season


Been out for a while, but I have managed to watch the first three Pistons' games of the year.

Observations: The Pistons must play at a fast tempo. When they slow the game down, their offensive production slows down. It's been said before, and I have to agree, this Pistons team is much better suited to an up-tempo game than the grind-it-out style of the 2k4 championship team.

1)Stuckey and Bynum like to get to the basket which is a lot easier when the defense isn't set.

2)The Pistons (still) don't have a consistent post threat to force defenses to sag into the paint. As a result the defense pushes out on our perimeter players (see: Chicago, 10/30)and the offense stalls, our slashers are doubled and forced to give up the ball and our shooters end up launching a lot of contested 20 footers and the Pistons lose.

The Pistons have more problems than tempo, of course, (like defense, defending the pick and roll, or just defending on defense. I'm looking at you, Maxiell.) but picking up the pace would help with easier buckets and put pressure on opposing defenses to get back and try to stop our athletic young players from getting into the paint and scoring and/or getting fouled or kicking out to trailing shooters.

 Player-by-Player Review:

PG's:

Stuckey is the team's best overall player and needs to become the go-to-guy in the clutch if he wants to take the next step to stardom.

Bynum has only played one game.

SG's:

 Gordon, you just keep shooting it bro (67% from 3) that's why you're here.

Hamilton looks out of place with the new squad. He is shooting poorly (38%) and is turning the ball over too much. Can he come off the bench? Will he be traded?

SF's: Prince (14, 4 and 2)is steady as usual. His expiring contract is biggest trade chip the Pistons have, but can they afford to trade him. No, no they can't.. 

T-Mac is a conondrum wrapped in a riddle, wrapped in a knee brace. He's like the old guy at the park that throws some slick passes, plays some scrappy "D" and shoots off one leg cause he's a lil' bit nervous about landing on ole gimpy. I don't like giving him minutes that DaJuan Summers can be using, but I guess the guy does deserve a chance to prove himself. The question is, how long do you wait ?

DaJuan Summers: See, "T-Mac Stole my Minutes" by D. Summers.

PF's:

5, 4 and .03 are underwhelming numbers for your starting power forward and if Daye doesn't improve soon then CV31 will step into the starting line-up. CV is already averaging more minutes per game. (21-Daye, 26-CV).

Villanueva has actually looked...tough at times during the last three games. He has been looking to pass the ball more and is really trying on the defensive end. I would not be suprised if he ends up starting in the near future.

Monroe needs more minutes. He is, right now, our best low post offensive weapon. He's going to get burned at times on D, at times he's going to get pushed around, but the Pistons are anemic offensively in the post, it can't get any worse, can it?

C's: Wallace is still a beast. He's a monster on the boards and sometimes it seems like his defense and hustle are the only thing keeping the Pistons in the game.

Maxiell has hit his performance ceiling and the twenty minutes a game he's currently playing need to be shared with Monroe. The sooner the better.





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I don’t get why he can’t score inside or rebound. Yeah, he’s a decent 3 point shooter, but so are Daye and Gordon. Maybe we need to pair Monroe with Wallace some and see how that works.

by revken on Oct 31, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

solutions

I wanted to give up for the season last night, but I do agree with Detroitrue, it’s better to think solutions.

Coach Q:
1. Keep the pace up
2. In half court sets, make your team go inside /outside, not outside outside outside. You are the coach, make it happen or get fired.
3. Switch CV to 1st team, Daye to 2nd team

CV/AD
1. Post somebody up! You are 6:11 with skills. This is how basketball works, offenses flow well when the area close to the basket has been penetrated. Watching Stuckey, Bynum and Gordon work hard to penetrate all nigt while you shoot jumpshots all night is lazy, unintelligent and it makes your team lose.

Joe D
Get Elton Brand in here. If you can’t trade him for Rip and Wilcox, just wait out the season or wait for a better opp.

Monroe
Stay in the weightroom with Ben. When your not with Ben, follow Arnie Kander around and work on your motor and athleticism. Get ready to produce, this team needs you bad.

We’ll be much better off when Will Bynum and Jerebko are back, but these changes should get us some wins

by victor_e on Oct 31, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Coaching.

Honestly, I think we look really solid, we just have to gain some mental toughness when fighting down the stretch. The mental toughness thing is going to come from the coach. Keusteritis seems a bit shaky at times and i really dont like his face. That is all.

by Habbidabs on Nov 1, 2010 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

defense

both of our first 2 losses were a result of too much help defense.

Rip leaving his man to help and allowing the last second shot
Maxiell focusing on preventing Durant instead of stopping his man (who had the ball)

I’m no expert, but I think when you focus more on helping others than on staying with guarding your man it’s a recipe for
disaster.

Maybe that should be a shift in defensive philosophy.

by victor_e on Nov 1, 2010 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

both of our first 2 losses were a result of too much help defense.

It may be a result of not playing too much with each other. The fact that we are trying to play helpside defense is better than us saying “fuck it, we’ll win by outscoring you” and playing like the warriors. The helpside did a good job of keeping low opposing FG%, and taking away teams first options on defense. The more we play together, the better we will be at defending long and broken plays, and capitalizing on them.

by tads on Nov 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fire Sale

This team is pathetic. They have no leadership and no heart. It’s time to admit defeat Joe, and restart. Stuckey is not the answer at PG. We need a leader who is not shoot first at the PG spot. The Bad Boys (part I and II) were built on toughness and grit and had a chip on their shoulder. This team is a bunch of old guys who lost their chip and a bunch of pre-madonna’s who don’t have heart. I’m sick of these Pistons…

by Fletcher, Irwin M. on Nov 1, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

i just can't even take you seriously.

Don't be callin' me dog cause I want ya to say it backwards - Tech N9ne

by MaxiellEatsLittleOnes on Nov 1, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha. ha.

let’s call out the one player performing above expectations this year.

by the89oracle on Nov 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's more on the heart of the coach than the heart of the players

gordon has shown heart
stuckey is better than ever. He’s actually trying to dunk
CV has been a sniper. 2 last second 3s. He has heart, he just needs a brain that says “let me post up twice for every 3 pointer… This will help my teams offense flow better.”
Big Ben has a heart.

Q has to show the heart to make the toug decisions and execute his will on his players. Losing a 21 point lead to Derrick rose when you have Stuckey for defense, Taye/Daye
with long arms. 2 6’11 Skilled Offensive bigs who won’t simply
 just post up and shoot a hook shot to help your offense out…
 
There’s no excuse.

by victor_e on Nov 1, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

First team in NBA history to.....

Have a double digit lead in it’s first 3 games and lose all 3.
I don’t know which of the losses hurt the most.Up by 7 with 1:39 left game 1 (then go 2-9 from the field and 2-5 from the line) or blowing a 21 pt lead with 6:44 left in the 3rd.Why in the HELL would they take out the subs that were 10-14 shooting to bring back the starters that were shooting 22% at that point in the game? CLUSTERFUCK has to go he’s NOT an NBA coach.He makes bad subs,watches a 21 pt lead vanish and only uses 1 timeout during a 18-2 run. They keep Monroe on the bench in game 1,because they thought Lopez was to good for him to guard.You have to play him that game,maybe his 7-5 wing span wouldve caused more problems than a 6-5 Maxiell or a 6-8 Ben Wallace.

Lions Super Bowl 2012

by ralphgoblue on Nov 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

Kuester is a homo, a jackass and a non sports fan.

For Jonas!!

by Mike Payne on Nov 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

and..

he has the kind of face you’d just wanna punch

by Habbidabs on Nov 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clusterfuck makes no sense as a nickname. I guess my jackass homo nonsportness does not put me on your level when it comes to nicknaming.

by Biz Markie Moon on Nov 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clusterfuck wasnt a nickname

It was a shot at his coaching..he is a CLUSTERFUCK when it comes to coaching

Lions Super Bowl 2012

by ralphgoblue on Nov 2, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ralphgoblue

is a CLUSTERFUCK when it comes to English.

by Rob Rogacki on Nov 3, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

In that sentence, “Clusterfuck” was the subject. The subject of the whole stretch of that sentence was Kuester. Therefore, don’t say “Clusterfuck” when you mean “Kuester” and expect people to not think of it as a nickname.

by Biz Markie Moon on Nov 3, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

detroit never had a double digit lead against OKC. largest they had was 6

by Bry7 on Nov 1, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I love that stat...

Because # of consecutive double digit leads blown to start an NBA season is a statistic that people track on a regular basis…let me just head to synergysports to pull that up…

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Nov 1, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pistons were up 11 at one point

the 3 blown leads comes from NBA network (its actually tied with the Knicks of last year or year before—3 opening double digit leads blown)
  i wanna say the Pistons were up 30-19 or 28-17 vs OKC

Lions Super Bowl 2012

by ralphgoblue on Nov 1, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

detroit started 6-0 before OKC went on a 8-0 run and detroit never lead again until charlie V’s three to get a one point lead.

by Bry7 on Nov 2, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

My conclusions from the young season:

Stuck/Bynum (when he’s back)
BG/Rip
Tay/Daye/T-Mac
CV/Moose
Ben/Max

The only drawback I see here is it might destroy any trade value Rip may have left. But can we afford to hold back the team’s effectiveness for the hope putting him in the starting lineup could help trade him?

by Tom Y. on Nov 1, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah and given people are gaining interest in Brand...

Rip still has to have more trade value than Brand at this point, right? We should at least be able to move Wilcox and Rip for Brand…

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Nov 1, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does look quite good for Philly

They get payroll relief at season’s end with Wilcox, and then Rip’s next two seasons are about 3M less than Brand’s. And with Iggy sounding like he wants out, they may have use for Rip.
Not sure about the pistons though – I used to really love Brand and he would have been great for us a few years ago, but now? Two main problems I see:
1. He’s a PF, where we’re quite stacked (Moose & CV, maybe JJ, maybe some occassionally Max or even Daye). What we need mostly is a center. Though perhaps as some here suggested Monroe may be better as a center with more bulk, and JJ could back up both forward spots next year (behind Tay and Brand). So maybe that could work out, assuming this idea about Monroe at center is any good (probably too early to tell).
2. He’s a great half-court guy, but this team seems to be better playing up-tempo and that’s probably what we should be moving towards.

So not so sure. Worst case, it probably wouldn’t be much worse than being stuck with Rip and the backcourt logjam. But I doubt this is the kind of move that would get us much closer to contending in the next few years.

by Tom Y. on Nov 2, 2010 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I view the Rip for Brand trade as a swap of near equally bad contracts for somene the Pistons could actually use at this point. If this trade were feasible and the best we could do for Rip then I’d go for it. Brand would be a center on our team and would give us a more physical presence. His tempo is certainly a good point of concern. I’d feel that we’d be a far more balanced team if this trade occured and would give us a huge expiring deal in acouple years. I need to find out how his final year is listed.

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by JumpingBlob on Nov 3, 2010 5:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

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