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Take Your Heat Index And... : Pistons @ Heat, Preseason Game Uno

Game Tips Off at 7:30 P.M. EST.
TV: NBATV, FSD (unless you have Dish Network),
Radio: 
97.1 The Ticket
Line: Heat -10.5

Oppo Research:

I've been scouring the internet for some information on the Heat, but it's tough to find anything. Of course, that's a joke (and not even funny. I'm sorry). As you know, the Heat have jumped into the overwhelming coverage arena with the likes of Brett Favre's indecisiveness & Tiger Woods' promiscuousness. We can blame LeBron James' "Decision" in July or we can blame the trio of perennial All-Stars (or both). Either way, the Heat are now the premiere team in the NBA (but don't tell that to the back-to-back champs) and we'll have to stomach through it all season a la Boston 2007-2008. 

Beyond Miami's "Big Three," they have a little three of Mario Chalmers, Udonis Haslem and Mike Miller that's not really going to scare anybody, although Haslem and Miller combine to average 30 points per game against the Pistons in their career. The Heat also have the slap-happy Carlos Arroyo and Joel Anthony, who will be rounding out the starting-five tonight (ew). Do we really care beyond the "Big Three," though?

Keys for Detroit

Play the youngsters --  We know how good Ben Wallace, Rip, and Tay are. We don't need to see them play 20+ minutes in an exhibition game.

Pick up the pace -- It's exhibition season, let's see if this team can play at a faster tempo.

Take out the Big Three -- I don't mean hurt them... I mean, like, box 'em out and prevent them from scoring 120 points.

Potential Drama: 

The last time they met, Juwan Howard (yes, he's on the Heat) and Charlie Villanueva scrapped. Clearly, this is the biggest drama of this preseason game.

Question(s) of the Game:

The biggest was answered already: Who will start? 

The starting lineup is as follows:

Stuckey, Hamilton, Prince, Jerebko and Wallace. Expect them to play much of first and third qtrs.


No. 2 question: Will the NBATV announcers talk about the Pistons at all?

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I'm yet to hear anything about the Pistons in the pregame

Unless to say “Lebron James and the Miami Heat take on the Pistons”

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I like how they didn’t even show the pistons warmups, I imagine this is what the whole season is going to be like.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

talked about the pistons just to make fun of stuck

by Pentatonic on Oct 5, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Of course

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to like this beat

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome comment from the wife

“How did the Heat get so stacked? How does that happen?”

(She’s not a sports fan at all)

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

My wife when Lebron signed with the Heat: “I always told you he was a pussy”

She did too.

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets say the pistons win this, then what?
also, bosh looks like he knows why he went to miami

by 3636 on Oct 5, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Pistons win, it means they won a preseason game.
Not much besides that.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're ahead!

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Get ready for (more) severe Heat talk.

If this is what its gonna be the whole season….

by DetroitSports on Oct 5, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Rip looking good.

Hopefully the ankle is healthy.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Rip trying to make a statement!

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I really wan to watch the game.
However it is not possible for me in Japanese time.

I hope they well done.

Where broken English happens

by OK from J on Oct 5, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This is pretty damn strange seeing Lebron and Wade on same team.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

God, I know this is only preseason...

But it would mean a lot to me if you could let us win. Thanks :)

by DetroitSports on Oct 5, 2010 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I like how they are calling him ‘yerebko’ they must have had to do some research.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

prince still in the playoff rhythm

by 3636 on Oct 5, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Fuck

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Prince hurt.

Aww jeeze.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

UGHHH

Less then 6 minutes in, guess what happens…

by DetroitSports on Oct 5, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

TMac in ahead of Daye.

Shyte.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Stuckey's jumper

still looks like Stuckey’s jumper…

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice, refs are already over-protecting Bosh.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit.

Stop getting hurt!

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Jerebko looks actually hurt. That sucks

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Monroe!

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

so far

I haven’t seen any “stars” in this game. Just looks like a bunch of role players.

by Wheaties on Oct 5, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Another funny comment from the wife

“Oh Charlie …. he’s just not that good … so clumsy.”

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes

But not for basketball commentary, if you know what I mean.

/perv’d

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear she's an expert

On ball handling.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, probably the most illegal screen I’ve ever seen at the NBA level.

AND 1 for Lebron! Waaaahoooo! This season is gonna be a tough watch

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I know. It’s going to be tough getting League Pass.

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

omfg, and now a illegal screen call against CV. nice.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

*sigh*

Step in front of him, Charlie.

by Grant E. on Oct 5, 2010 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

This commercial is awesome, at least. I’m calling.

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I still can't believe

They’re all on the same team.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm used to it already...

After ESPN beat me over the head with it all offseason.

by Grant E. on Oct 5, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s still weird seeing it now. It had almost become an imaginary story perpetuated by sports media.

Now it’s real.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good job Charlie

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

A blocking foul?

Really?

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Bad call

But I’m impressed by Charlie making the attempt. That’s a good sign.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Did his hands even

go up? I just saw Charlie in position to take the charge

by Taiwanese Tora on Oct 5, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Just tuned in.

Charlie does look slimmer, but LeBub seems to have gained some weight. His head seems much bigger.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I say he’s on steroids. His head is Bonds-esque.

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, if he was, I’d be happy. That’s how much I dislike Lebron.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn

And just when I thought it could get no bigger……

by DetroitSports on Oct 5, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Bynum

is still good at the game of basketball.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I also really like how hard Monroe is hitting the glass. Another good sign early.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Noticed. Very important and encouraging.

Also had a nice move to the basket. Didn’t make it, but he looked nice.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeaahhhhh...

Think that’s it for LeBron?

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

LeBron hacks Will, nothing.

This is so fucking awful. I don’t complain alot about the refs but this is fucking dumb.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I would say I hope he punches Lebron in the balls, but that would be implying Lebron has balls.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm so glad I have no volume bc I'm in class..

I hate the Heat so much already because of LeBron

by Packey on Oct 5, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh

Look at all these bandwagon fans and these biased refs…..
Is this really what basketball has come to?

by DetroitSports on Oct 5, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

What, you don’t remember Miami Heat basketball circa 2005/6?

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Well, we better get used to it. It only gets worse from here….

by DetroitSports on Oct 5, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overreact much?

The NBA has always had its darlings. This is not the end of the world.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heat defender to the rescue!

(cues the music)

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not defending the Heat anymore than I’m defending the Lakers. The NBA always favors superstars. Always.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm watching from my bomb shelter.

It’s white, red and blue.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I already hate their cockiness.

Bosh & James celebrating a dunks like its the Finals….wtf???

by Fadel on Oct 5, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I know. Do you think they realize they’re douchebags?

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

And they don’t care.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

But don’t they love the game? Isn’t this whole Heatextravaganza a celebration of the game, their love exploding all over each others faces in true spurts of white hot blinding joy?

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Lebron looks like he does still have some on his face…

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

BASKETBAPOCALYPSE!

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Charlie got a rebound!

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Just saw a close-up on Q’s face after Abdenour told him something… The look on his face said —> one of those injuries might be serious.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Jonas.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally. It’s not so much that the Heat are awesome, it is that we suck right now.

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our bench

is getting massively owned

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Which is sad, because what exactly is the Miami's bench?

This game is God damn ass backwards.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else been watching Charlie V running?

He looks different doesn’t he?

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Too bad this isn’t a track meet.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cant watch anymore :(

I’ll be back when we’re done losing. G’night everybody

by DetroitSports on Oct 5, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

:(

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops, forgot to put the /sarcasm in there.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I’m not convinced it needed to be /sarcasm’d.

/depression’d

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

14 minutes into the preseason. kbye

by Packey on Oct 5, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 personal fouls to 2.

Derp.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The refs are also getting into shape, you see.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has Terrico been in?

Also, how has Monroe looked? I’m in film class, can’t really watch. Yes, I know we’re losing. Yes, Lebron is a douchebag. Yes, Bosh is weaksauce. And I still don’t despise Wade, bbut he’s been poisoned by association.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Monroe's held his own

Especially on the boards. No Terrico. NO DAYE!!!

#Q$#$%#$%@#$5

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Secret weapons

cannot be exposed in preaseason.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its called Reading Film. Its kind of boring, to tell the truth, there’s a lot of technical stuff.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

God it’s on mute and they’re still getting on my fucking nerves…

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Why the hell is Prince back in?

Austin Daye? Anyone?

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it just me...

Or does LeBron look Blacker?

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Right achilles sprain for Jonas. That’s not good.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Huh? Achilles?

What was the deal with his elbow/shoulder?

by Grant E. on Oct 5, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

THe shoulder is just getting iced. They announced it was the achilles that was actually hurt.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greek mythology, FTW!

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jonas the Swede writes Greek mythology retroactively.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cant always have the A Team in all the time….someone call MR. T!

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Oct 5, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hit Tay in the head, he plays better.

You.
Know what to do.
Q.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Why is Tay back in?

I mean I appreciate the back to back 3s but he got hurt and we got Daye

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

cuz he bout that

by 3636 on Oct 5, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greg and George with the awkward man love exchange. Love it.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it too early to start complaining about Daye not playing?

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope, especially if Taye is hurt and ITS A FUCKING PRESEASON GAME. Rest Rip and Tay for the season.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jump step then another baby step … is travelling. Unless it’s LBJ, Wade, or Kobe.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that a game featuring LETRAVEL has someone get called for that.

Refs you are awful and I hate you.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crab walk

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahah, oh memories

by 3636 on Oct 5, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Arroyo owning

take that bitches

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder when

the rest of the 2003 draft will join Miami.

by LigerWingston on Oct 5, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of, wouldn’t an Eastbound and Down style show about Darko be amazing?

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unsung scrub owning us award returns!

Miami is really not the team you want to be doing that to you either.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Charlie appears to be somewhere between chunky and chiseled. That’s a step in the right direction.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

As well as somewhere between the 3 pt line and the post.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is much more fluid too.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAYE!

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

(I’ll keep it going?)

DAYE!!!!!

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a tic … did he just sub in at PF?

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, guys, not sure if you heard

But TAYSHAUN AND DAYE HAVE A SIMILAR PHYSIQUE. Excited for that all f’ing season.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

How old do I feel right now?

I remember when Anthony Mason was playing in the league and now his son is playing.

/heyyoukidsgetoffmylawn’d

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

lol, I was thinking the same thing.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

An offensive foul? ON LEBRON?

Am I dead? I’m dead, aren’t I?

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Close your eyes, Kriz. That was PG rated.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

screw you

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone know of a reliable site for real-time stats for pre-season games? I’ve gotta think we’re approaching 20 TOs.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Rodney scores!!

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Too bad Max got fouled

Would have been an awesome dunk.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

One reason Miami may not win it all.

LeBrick keeps taking dumb jumpers.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Was that lebron?

That just miss-dribbled. I cant tell I have to watch a tiny illegal window thanks to dish network.

by LigerWingston on Oct 5, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Best team on paper.

Worst team on court.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell

There still beating us, aren’t they? :(

by DetroitSports on Oct 5, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That quote was misinterpreted

What he meant was that when Q covers the practice court with paper, we’re better than any other team that covers the court with paper.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't "aw" people

That wasn’t close.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Who will be more annoying this season?

LeBron/Wade/Bosh or the bandwagon-ass cats who call themselves Heat fans?

by Grant E. on Oct 5, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow great timing

class ends right at the half

by Packey on Oct 5, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet blouse Cheryl

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out if we're this bad or Miami is that good.

Neither answer is particularly exciting.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The latter. We’re not as bad as we just played.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re not as bad as we just played.

Really we can play worse than that? Just when I thought I couldn’t get even more depressed, you somehow manage to do just that.

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohhh...

Now I’m depressed for being such an idiot.

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Idiots can't be depressed.

They’re blissfully ignorant!

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that either we need a better bench

or we need better starters and move our starters to the bench.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

HOW IS OUR BENCH SO TERRIBLE?

Seriously, we spent $95 million on it two seasons ago.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

we spent wasted $95 million on it two seasons ago.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if it was wasted money.

It should still be better than this.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rick Kamla

is kind of an asshole.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I think its been determined on DBB that he’s the worst announcer not named “Reggie Miller”.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kamla =

brains aren’t his strong suit. though, neither are looks. or anything really.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its shitty

because the team got off to such an encouraging start.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The +/- numbers are interesting. TMac with a -16 and Charlie with a -17. Ouch.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I could think of better words to describe those numbers.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Explain +/- to me. If you play somebody in garbage team when the team is losing by 20 points, wouldn’t the player have a -20? I don’t get it.

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So if the team begins to score as he’s on the court, then he would have a positive number, yes?

by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 5, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

If they outscore the opponents while he’s on the court, he’ll have a positive +/-

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Si, senor.

If you come in the game, and the team outscores the opponent by six points during that time. You are +6. If your team scores 3 fewer points during that time, you are -3.

by TDP on Oct 5, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a bad

Statistic in terms of individual players,..

by Taiwanese Tora on Oct 5, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's not too great in determining individual performance

But good as a team statistic.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it for lineups, personally

I tend to think it’s crap for individuals, unless of course it agrees with what I think I saw, which it did in this case.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

This game, yes

Starters hung up with them
Bench sucked ass

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, our starters have the talent.

Our bench lacks chemistry and is a little raw.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm hoping it's just a chemistry issues.

Cause there’s too much talent for them to be this bad.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No cohesion...

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or too much Will Bynum?

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you are on the court and you are outscored 20-10 you would be -10

by LigerWingston on Oct 5, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to buy one of those Pistons warm-up jackets.

Then I’ll look as athletic as I feel.

by TDP on Oct 5, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

my thoughts on the half

Our pick and roll defense starts with our big bumping the guard, and ends with cv, maxiell, and monroe looking stupid because they are too slow to recover. They need to work that out

CV has a great chance with jerebko out, hopefully he takes advantage by getting in the middle and being active, not standing on the perimeter and being clumsy.

Gordon needs to get more iso sets.

Bynum needs to blow up, or Stucky needs to act like he exists.

Hamilton needs to injure more heat players.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

If Tay keeps playing so well

I’m going to be REALLY sad when we finally do get rid of him.

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

rec

As long as we give something similar to Daye after his rookie deal is up.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chrissy Bosh

best third banana ever?

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Killanueva!

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t have thought that he would be allowed to eat babies on his diet.

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Transition Charlie

is better than transvestite Bosh.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Stuckey changed his “Hey!” to “Hey get off me!”

by Quick Darshan on Oct 5, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

He really said "Oye, salte!"

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was “Hey, Kriz!”

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice ball movement

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait...

Was that good ball movement I just saw? From the Pistons???

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

It slipped out of his hands into the right place.

by LigerWingston on Oct 5, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tay’s playing really well.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes he is. Good thing we have all those backups to ride the pine.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the Tay/Rip/T-Mac/Daye/Rebko lineup.

This signature is false.

by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

If Joe can trade Rip and keep Tay, he would be doing a smart thing. Tay can move to the bench eventually once Blade Jr. matures.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stuckey was a one man defensive unit

too bad nobody grabbed the loose ball

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I was just going to post that. Lol. Illitch will make something happen. Just like he did with the Red Wings. He is sitting in his chair and thinking of moves.

If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.

by LionsGuy4Ever on Oct 5, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

My feeling has always been

That Illitch hires people he trusts and lets them work. I don’t think he’s going to be making any moves.

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by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well the pie went somewhere

by LigerWingston on Oct 5, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie hasn't been too bad.

Just not where we need him to be.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s making an impact, at least

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, LBJ had something to do with it, too. But when Charlie and TMac came in, our fluid offense came to a complete halt, and our defense completely fell apart.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure… looked to me like he turned it on about midway through the 1st quarter, exploited weak interior D.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd point more to McGrady.

And his amazing ability to contribute absolutely nothing in any way, shape, or form.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re right, he’s really good at doing that

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

"They're all going so fast!"

part of me thinks dude is like ricky bobby after the crash on his first lap on the track

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like, once McGrady came in things just stopped.

He stood at the top of the key and just held onto the ball, doing nothing.That’s when Miami made it’s run. And that’s really the difference in your game right now.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rip hasn’t been terrible.

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daye: Long Smooth and Strokes it!

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow Charlie…nice rebound…

by Shinons on Oct 5, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Our pick and roll defense is god awful.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Our regular defense isn’t much better

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are trying to do that thing that the celtics do where they jump out on the guy, but the recovery is god awful

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

LeBron

Gets so many assists after leaving his feet around the high post. Can’t we just stay man-to-man and force the TO?

This signature is false.

by heWizard on Oct 5, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

9 assists as a team. 15 turnovers as a team.

That isn’t a good sign.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Good players will do that.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you expect?

they spend their camp telling everybody “YOU WILL ONLY DO THIS ONE THING THAT YOU’RE GOOD AT”
We spend our camp saying “CAN YOU PLEASE DO THIS ONE THING THAT YOU AREN’T GOOD AT?”

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Def tots

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by heWizard on Oct 6, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good things —> Tay and Daye look really good. And we know Jerebko is solid.

Not so good —> They all (should) play the same position.

/dead horse

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Gordon and Rip looked solid, too. Literally nothing other than shooting … but at least it’s something.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s getting the point that bynum can get to wherever he wants on the court whenever he wants, and he’s deciding to get in the paint and makes good decisions when he is in there.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Positives?

Tay’s trade value could be pretty damn good. Gordon has 15 points on 9 shots. Will Bynum is Will Bynum. Daye looks good, and Hamilton had a decent game.

Negatives: Pretty much everything else. Especially T-Mac.

"Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans."
-ralphgoblue/thunder_god08

by Thom_not_Tom on Oct 5, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

New career option: Buy a motorcycle —> get blindsided —> Call Sam.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Good thing Charlie worked so hard in the offseason

To not box out or not run back on defense. Can we just agree that he sucks? Man I hate him.

All the time relaxed.

by Supa Dupe on Oct 5, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Remember when we thought he might be a 20-10 threat?

sighs

"Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans."
-ralphgoblue/thunder_god08

by Thom_not_Tom on Oct 5, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

20 minutes, 10 missed shots?

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to be optimistic

But I can agree that he didn’t show me much improvement in any important area.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this lineup.

Bynum – Gordon – Daye – Maxiell – Monroe

That is based on no performance for fact.

by TDP on Oct 5, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to see

Stuckey – Gordon – Daye – Monroe- Wallace

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is it

that Kriz’s ideal lineup does NOT include Jonas? I’m shocked

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

*lowers head*

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until Bynum or Gordon has to guard someone above 6’5"

All the time relaxed.

by Supa Dupe on Oct 5, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Monroe scores!

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Monroe passes!

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has vision that can't be taught.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good work by this unit

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Marv just called Monroe “Moore”. Nice.

by garrettelliott on Oct 5, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

He probably had a bitten-off piece of ass and/or panties in his mouf.

by TDP on Oct 5, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait

So the heat announcer says every name the same?

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

The same WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Daye tired?

he’s missed 4 of his last 5, 3 layups and a corner 3

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

He hasn't missed by much though.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lineup I'd like to see

I would like to see Daye at SG and Tay at SF. I think that could create some nice mismatches.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be nice

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. And Daye’s crazy length seems like it could disrupt teams more when he’s defending the perimeter

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can’t be worse than the guys they have now

There's no justice like angry mob justice!

by bugman222 on Oct 5, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he hit him.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maxy building a brick house

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

The Moose is loose.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously though, I don't understand our defense

Is it just me or does it seem like the big men are constantly in mis matchees. I just saw maxiell and gordon switch, for no real reason at all. It’s not like we are playing a zone, why don’t they stick to their men. Maxiell got pulled way out again and his man had an open jumper. This seems unspeakable to me, if the coaches and players don’t talk about this stuff after the game I’ll be shocked.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

I don’t understand our defensive schemes. They aren’t intuitive.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This troubles me.

Because when you don’t have great defenders to begin with, scheme becomes everything.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both I think.

You need the cattle, but you akso need to give them a chance of success too.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems like personnel to me

Seems that Maxiell, Monroe, and Villanueva are expected to have the same quickness and instincts as Ben Wallace did, and maybe that is a larger learning curve than expected. They took a scheme that works with the wrong personnel and are trying to make it work.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

My only thought is that they are trying new stuff.

Except I think I have seen this tragedy before.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t QStar a disciple of Larry Brown’s hardcore D?

by garrettelliott on Oct 5, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Summers’ eyebrows almost had a dunk!

by garrettelliott on Oct 5, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Summers

Goes hard to the hole. Good start.

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Monroe looking good now that hes' getting the ball

Hustling for rebounds too.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh Shit, Daye as a 2

The mismatches will end them.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

RANGE

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Marv says we see Monroe as our eventual starting centre. Hmm.

by garrettelliott on Oct 5, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

don't look now

pistons down 13. We got a spread to cover!

by Packey on Oct 5, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

On paper

We just got our asses kicked by the Miami Heat.

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this where we start making silver linings?

I’m not sure how we’re doing it this season.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

We will be ok

Somehow

I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.

by Laughton on Oct 5, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda agree.

Obviously, we went up against one of the best teams in the league, and they spanked us. It shouldn’t be surprising. But there were a couple things to build on and hopefully we don’t lose Jerebko for significant time.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did just play the best team in the NBA

We can’t really expect to compete with Miami …

by brgulker on Oct 5, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking the Lakers may take offense to that statement.

by Sean W on Oct 5, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure they do. And I’m fairly confident they’ll be even more offended come June.

by brgulker on Oct 6, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

and

it’s still preseason

by Pentatonic on Oct 5, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hamilton and Tayshaun should be consistent this season

Depending who you talk to, that is kind of a silver lining.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and with Gordon scoring 17, our 3 highest paid players are our 3 highest scorers.

by tads on Oct 5, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Monroe runs so funny

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, no wonder Arnie was like, “I gotta fix that.”

by garrettelliott on Oct 5, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

who wins?

a funny running contest between Monroe and CV?

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone?

I’ll take CV, in an upset, by a nose.

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I take him by an eyelash.

Get it?

It’s funny cause he has no hair.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i give this:

one rec. don’t spend it all in one place!

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used it to buy BP stock.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Me too

Villanueva looks Clumsy. But Greg, he looks like an old man.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 6, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

We really a good big though

One that can defend.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 5, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Full of win.

Where in the world is Chris Wilcox?

by Kriz on Oct 6, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like a big man that gets to the line.

Obviously, gotta work on that finishing part, but drawing fouls on opposing bigs is generally a good thing.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Great lob pass from Daye near the end of the game. He needs to do more of that. I’ve liked Daye’s aggressiveness, but he’s gotta remember to use his offensive skills not just to take shots himself but to make plays for others

by Gabe F-B on Oct 5, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Sadly, because of money concerns, likely going to pass on 2k11 for now.

Probably only going to get one more game this year (Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood). Halo: Reach has been taking up all my time so I’m good.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Oct 5, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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