Detroit Pistons Visit Atlanta Hawks: This Might Hurt
by Mike Payne on Nov 3, 2010 6:44 PM EDT
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PrintDetroit Pistons at Atlanta Hawks, Nov 3, 2010 7:00 PM EDT
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Detroit Pistons 0 - Winfrey (Road 0 - 2)
Atlanta Hawks 4 - 0 (Home 1 - 0)
The Pistons take on the Eastern Conference's only undefeated team tonight in Atlanta. I'll bet you RalphGoBlue's dignity that George Blaha calls them the "high flying Atlanta Hawks" in the introduction. This will be a short preview tonight, as I realized at the last minute that no one else is on it. I'm publishing this now for a game thread, will update with more details hopefully before the game tips...
Oppo Research:
Like Boston last night, here's another team that is playing at their best. They've won four in a row to remain one of the league's three unbeaten teams, joined with the Lakers and the Hornets. The Hawks are killing it on the shoulders of the recently-extended Al Horford, who is averaging 15, 10 and 3 assists a game. Josh Smith is blocking shots at nearly double his career rate, dishing out assists per usual and cleaning up the defensive glass. Mike Bibby is hitting nearly 48% of his threes and rarely turning the ball over. As a team, they're scoring 105.5 points a game and winning by an average of 8.5 points. Inversely, the Pistons are losing by 9 points per game and giving up 104. This makes me nervous.
Granted, Atlanta has had one of the easiest schedules available thus far, having played mostly Eastern Conference bottom feeders save for the Memphis Moneyball Grizzlies. Last I checked, sadly, Detroit also happens to be an Eastern Conference basement dweller team. This makes me nervous.
One of the Pistons greatest weaknesses thus far is its lack of a frontcourt presence on the boards and in the paint. Atlanta happens to have two double-double starters in the frontcourt between Smith and Horford. This, too, makes me nervous.
Keys to the Game:
Austin Daye needs to go to the bench. This is the third game in a row where I've said this, and I'm going to repeat it until it happens (or until he starts kicking names and taking ass. i meant it that way, MFBM).
Rebound. Even though this may not fit with the last key, as Daye has been a superior rebounder to Villanueva, this team needs a daily rebound clinic. If they haven't figured out how to rebound yet, don't worry, Atlanta will show them how it's done.
Score More Points than Atlanta. If you score more than the other team, you will win. Every time.
Question of the Game:
When will it stop?
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Gotta love when work sends you to Atlanta
And the Pistons are in town. Thank god for stubhub and Atlanta’s pro sports apathy. Good thing I packed my Sheed t-shirt.
by MFCasey on Nov 3, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
looks empty in there!
you posting from your phone?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
At least the Wings are playing today too
Between the two of us, we should manage at least one win…
Go for it
Hopefully
All we need is faith
Go for it
by DetroitSports on Nov 3, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben is just saving himself for later.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Interesting start to the game...
Much better than yesterday though.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Gordon is crazy
His scoring this year is impressive and even efficient. I hope he keeps this up.
holy crap is that arena empty.
daye with an airball, then a nice pass setting up gordon (was fouled, then made both ft’s).
BITE 'EM CHALLIE!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Villanueva...
Unleash your anger upon these Hawks
Go for it
OOO
I like the way Stuckey’s playing…so far
Go for it
Thanks, Atlanta
I always wondered what Bibby’s feet looked like
by Ra's Head on Nov 3, 2010 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Alright Stuck...reign it in...
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
charlie that half-hook was very cancerous to our last possession
and to the rest of the NBA, sir.
/KG’d
too soon?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I wasn't serious.
<3
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Ok, let's get this one started right!
and hoping CV is pissed enough and does something about it on the court!
T-Mac straight up Facilitatin'
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
would it be a foul if Big Ben’s beard thing touched someone?
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
Ask and ye shall receive.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
UNLOOSE THE MOOSE!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Monroe can't step out and help that much.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
What. Hi T-Mac.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I hope he doesn't get over confident here...
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Nice work T-mac
O rebound and score. I’m impressed
Greg Monroe's defense on Horford over the last few minutes has been surprisingly solid
I remember worrying about playing him at the five for his defense alone, but on the last two possessions the Hawks have set plays for Horford on Monroe and Monroe 1) stuck to Al like glue and crowded his push to the basket to force the pass, then 2) forced Al into a traveling turnover with more crowding. A+ I like what I’m seeing, Greg.
For Jonas!!
nice stat on the tv
8-1 in favor of the pistons in offensive rebounds. not expected.
but what, 4 or 5 of those came as Monroe and CV were fumbling with the put backs. They need to work on those. Or simply calm down a bit.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
yeah
we’ve looked stupid on putbacks most of the season. i feel like 1/3 of them have been maxiel jumping with the ball at his waist and trying to pull it through a sea of arms as he goes up and flailing as he comes down without the ball and often without the foul.
So I finally read up on KG's "response."
All I can think of is that old Conan O’Brien skit where he pretended to be an 19th century baseball player.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I spent like 20 minutes trying to find the video.
“You would have to dig a trench to Hades itself to find that apple!”
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
ohh i thought you found it earlier when you said you spent 20 minutes trying to find it
I just finished watching it … “Conan baseball” on Google came up with a bunch of results. You ass!
Every link I clicked on, for me, was dead.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish we still had Kwame
so every time he dropped a pass I could say, “catch that sphere, you fool!”
You ass!
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember watching that when it actually aired! Awesome.
by garrettelliott on Nov 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
With at least 3 other shooters on the court
lets take an iso post to one of their best defender down low
Jonas, jag älskar dig! Du är vacker.
Doing very well
(at least compared to other Pistons performances)
Jonas, jag älskar dig! Du är vacker.
every single one of those MFers
can run the ball up the court and distribute. all above average passers.
For Jonas!!
mateen cleeves
uses good/well wrong but in the opposite way most people do.
Perhaps he needs some diction tips from Kevin Garnett.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
or maybe i'm wrong
and he meant the pistons looked really healthy as opposed to really capable.
you said dic. lol.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Wait, Atlanta's shooting lights out and we're still winning?
Is this… a good omen? Usually it’s the opposite way!
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
shit
we’ve taken 16 more shots than they have.
not to blow my own piston, but maybe Kuester read our season preview: “move the ball, pick up the pace”
For Jonas!!
at least
that means we’re rebounding, somewhat
by AbominableMooseman on Nov 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude...
Rips is out due to “different reasons” that make his foot sore and Max is a DNP…Philly/Detroit deal is done and we’re about to get elton brand.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Nov 3, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
the true +41.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I'd like to be up 15 right now.
Also, up 15 with a minute to go.
Then I’d feel better.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
OT - Michael Curry coach Sixers.
Doug Collins went to locker room with symptoms of his vertigo again
And he bricks the hell out of that three.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
did stuckey
not start the second half?
by AbominableMooseman on Nov 3, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
yeah i was about to ask where stuckey is in this game
by Rodney Stuckey on Nov 3, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He started.
But they subbed for him early.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I just turned on the game (due to internet FAIL reasons)
and that stat was surprising as fuck, to put it delicately.
Austin Daye is 2-12.
He was already shooting 33% for the season before tonight.
Maybe it’s time to move him down the depth chart for a little while. Move someone else into the starting lineup, cause this isn’t really helping us.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
He wouldn't miss them.
If he were on the bench.
Boom pow!
by TDP on Nov 3, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
how on earth are we in this game. i just got done with some homework. the hawks are shooting 60% to our 40%!
Effort.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Good sir, I take offense to your use of the word... fart. Have at thee!
/KG
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Curses, foiled again!
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks much like our first 4 games
We hang in or have a modest lead, then the other team wakes up, and we leave the stadium with a mushroom stamp. Please, Q and Co…prove me wrong.
This signature is false.
doh.
bad wrong dujuan. stop standing around with the basketball.
right smack in the middle of the paint no less.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I like the thinking behind going to Summers in the post against Teague or Bibby. He needs to get better at basketball to take advantage.
MOOOOOOOOOSE.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
and
a nice almost dunk attempt by KRAIG MONROAD
Summers and T-Mac are going to have more minutes than Stuckey
showcase??
Monroe’s on his way to surpassing him, too
yeah. did stuckey piss off Q
by not providing leadership?
Dammit, seriously, nothing annoys me more than missed free throws.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
Wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
thinking ahead by Q
stuckey will have had tons of blow and can play full speed the entire 4th.
Q’s outsmarting people again.
end of 3rd
but it was mcgrady, summers, monroe, gordon, villa
just started 4th
with monroe, prince, villa, mcgrady, and gordon.
I stand by my statement that Ben Gordon is a superstar scorer.
If he could do anything else adequately, he’d be an all-star.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
Tried to get fancy on that pass.
Nice clean up by Villanueva.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
And he just got a block.
Probably a foul.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
a little late
but since we’re wearing our 70s warmups, why aren’t we wearing our 70s jerseys?
Unless Monroe got a foot shorter, that was Gordon.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i was just
thinking that bg was facilitating well
by AbominableMooseman on Nov 3, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, there’s no way that guy could have helped us actually WIN ball games. I mean, come on.
by garrettelliott on Nov 3, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the moose!
He’s Caboose Moose!
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a bag of tears
This signature is false.
by heWizard on Nov 3, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Unicorn tears more than likely. The best kind, really.
by garrettelliott on Nov 3, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think dude just might be real…….every night. Let him play, Q!
by garrettelliott on Nov 3, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The MonRoad Warrior is tearing people apart out there!
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
by JumpingBlob on Nov 3, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I'm going to be delusionally optimistic and agree.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't come in the moose's den and expect to get out without a few hooves to the face Joe Johnson!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Hey, why hasn't Stuckey played for long?
Just got back, Im outta the loop. Please dont tell me he’s injured…
Go for it
well it was fun to see Monroe get angry. I wouldn't mind seeing him jump right into the starting lineup.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
that brick will happen when you don't shoot in 6 minutes...
3 shots for our best shooter in the 4th quarter… unbelievable.
he must have made fun of Koostis' mom.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
that was an odd offensive foul...Bibby was moving the entire way.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
why is dajuan summers in the game with a 1:30 left?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
so when Joe Johnson does it he gets to the line
but for BG it’s a foul?
No, I mean why is he benched?
Go for it
by DetroitSports on Nov 3, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My bad
I’ve been asking myself the same thing.
If he's injured, I will be pissed
Although Gordon makes a semi-good PG…
Go for it
by DetroitSports on Nov 3, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
given Stuckey's pretty scary history of heart issues
I think we should be worried more so than upset.
For Jonas!!
asked around on Twitter
MLIVE’s Iott said he asked a team rep if Stuckey was hurt and the response was “don’t think so.”
Seemed to me like Kuester was flexing his muscle towards Stuckey.
We got to wait and see what the kid do.
Jonas, jag älskar dig! Du är vacker.
That sucks. Stuckey was one of the only guys actually playing well so far this year!
by garrettelliott on Nov 3, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
lineup
what is up with this? no ben wallace or stuckey? has monroe played PF at all? summers? huh?
by mcflies on Nov 3, 2010 9:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Just tuned in when we were up one, here's what I noticed
Pachulia scores on Charlie in the post
Horford scores on Charlie in transition
Horford scores on Charlie in the post
Josh Smith scores on Charlie in transition
Johnson scores on Charlie
Charlie was exposed for sure
Kootsis should have recognised it though and brought Big Ben in.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
guys, calm down
after trying to win the first three and not succeeding, we’ve clearly changed plans and are no longer trying to win but trying to develop dujuan summers into the superstar he can be.
also. good job allowing an alley-oop with 45 seconds left. tight defense.
if i was in his position
i’d be looking at mike brown, coaching his kids football team, making a few mil and i’d be saying “hey, getting fired wouldn’t be so bad!”
by freywagg on Nov 3, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tayshaun Prince : leadership :: Kevin Garnett : political correctness
by Rob Rogacki on Nov 3, 2010 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Tayshaun is more of a mentor than a leader. This isn’t on him.
This team as it is… just sucks. Plain and simple Jack.
by TDP on Nov 3, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Well thats the game
See ya’ll later
Go for it
up 81-76 with 6 minutes left
Pistons shoot 2-10 and Hawks shoot 8-11 with ease.
0-5.
I’m out for tonight. Later everyone.
the positive in this game
is that Monroe got playing time and played well and we at least didn’t get sharted on for 4 whole quarters. That’s all I got.
We suck.
But at least the Moose got loose. He can play and he can help us. I hope he gets more time.
If we're not playing Stuckey anymore, then I'd say Moose should be starting
Bynum/Gordon (whichever one is healthy)
Daye
Tay
Moose
Ben
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Kuester is probably a goner.
He clearly is struggling to find a consistent lineup and to make late game adjustments. He has probably lost his players too. You cant lose the locker room in a players league.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
I don't understand the lineup problems
I know the roster is unbalanced, but when your team is in 4 of 5 games the problem isn’t that there aren’t any effective lineups to put on the floor.
t theI'm wondering if this is a consession tha season is done and it's time to play the young/future guys.
Hence Monroe moving up the depth chart, Daye continuing to get playing time despite his generally underwhelming performance, giving heavy minutes to Gordon and Villanueva.
Then again, McGrady just played 24 minutes so fuck that theory.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
Yeah and Tay got burn too...
Unless he’s signing for MLE levels, I don’t see us re-signing him in the off-season and even then its not likely.
Personally, I was hopeful that it meant we were making a trade with Sacramento (even though I’m pretty sure this trade doesn’t work):
- Stuckey
- Rip
- Maxiell
- The Controversial One
- Beno Udrih
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I'm late to the party
I totally missed the game. I would be pissed at myself, but apparently I’d be even more pissed had I actually watched the game.
On the plus side, I loved the shout-out in the preview MFMP.
There's no justice like angry mob justice!
by bugman222 on Nov 3, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Here comes the drama.....
“Kuester calls Stuckey, Stuckey doesn’t respond…Kuester calls DaJuan Summers to replace him…what is going on here”
Vincent Goodwill (twitter)
That's fucking super.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I was about to post this too, interesting stuff
Stuckey vs. Kuester? I kind of think Kuester wins this one. It may not be pretty, but ultimately Stuckey wants minutes, it is his contract year, and the last thing he needs is to be seen as a knuckle head.
Pat Sullivan tells me on Post Show “Kue was trying to get a play run.after that he subbed him out”. “John said its between him and Stuckey”.
Jonas, jag älskar dig! Du är vacker.
Good to know everyone is mad at everyone.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
?
It’s not only his Substitutions and Lineups,although that’s the biggest concern regarding his coaching,but also his Timeout managment is horrible,almost all points come from Iso plays,just when Moose was in there was a little more movement,I mean,even I could coach them if it’s just throwing the dice about who is playing how long and then do shit.He might be a decent Assistant-Coach,but as a headcoach…just terrible.
He might be a decent Assistant-Coach,but as a headcoach…just terrible.
Dare I say, turrrible?
by TDP on Nov 3, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t Q a Larry Brown disciple? I mean, he was an assistant for Brown from 1997-2003 in Philly, and then he was an assistant on our championship team. So he knows his stuff, and should know our philosophies and style. Even if his mind totally went blank and he didn’t know what to do, he could just ask himself, “WWLD?” and probably come up with a simple enough solution.
I think he's following the What Would Larry Do motto by getting himself fired.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Nov 3, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
LB's a prick
A genius, but nevertheless a prick.
Q’s not a bad guy. Just clueless…
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