Joe D's last chance, UPDATE: Joe D full of crap

This seems to me the last chance for Joe D.  I feel like I will be a big fan for a long time, but if he doesn't do anything right now, he's basically asking the next owner to fire him.  I'm ready for something to happen like a kid ready to open presents on Christmas.  This quote seems relevant...


"My thing is, after three years of that, in pro sports, this is not high school, this is not college, in pro sports you don’t have these opportunities all the time. Three straight years of losing in exactly the same way to me, was enough. I’d seen enough of that. We’re having to constantly fight contentment and make that an issue and, secondly, I need to see a burning desire from everybody that we need to win at all costs and when I didn’t see that this year, it was time to make a change."

                      -Joe Dumars June 11, 2008

We did not see that change 3 years ago, instead we saw three years of losing in ever worsening ways, ways that made this red panda angry. 



This could be your chance to make good on that promise of no "Sacred Cows" press conference which preceded the quote above.  Or this is the could be the official end of the "Joe Dumars Era" and the slow painful growth that follows.  Your choice,  DO IT JOD!


Update:  The quote above is from a interview here:

Joe D Full of Crap Update:

I was expecting to hear phrases from Joe D directly contradicting himself before I personally jumped off the bandwagon, but I was surprised to see it happen so soon, or for Langlois to be the one to make it happen.  Go to the fine gentlemen over at Piston Powered for the whole story, but, Joe D "Intentionally overstated" the chance of a  trade. 


Remember that story about the two trades that Dumars mentioned with Matt Dery?  Langlois asked Dumars about it at the end of the audio.  Langlois asks Dumars if there is nothing, and Dumars says "No, there's nothing".  Todd3 also posted about this story over at Real GM's forum. 

Langlois: Let me ask you some background stuff here. Um, I saw with Matt Dery, you said you were, you had some conversations, is there any players I should be…

Dumars: I talked to Matt after. I said, “Matt, you’ve got everybody asking me like, ‘You’ve got something imminent?’ ” What he asked me, you know, I’m, like, “Yeah, I’m talking, Matt, but you know, but am I close? I don’t know. Teams say, ‘Hey, you know, we kind of like that, you know.’ ”

Langlois: So there’s nothing?

Dumars: No, there’s nothing.

On a personal note, I am very disappointed about this because of what it says about Joe D as a person.  For the guy who is known around the league to have the most class (he has a friggin sportsmanship trophy), it is really disconcerting to see him doing stuff that is slimy, low class, and manipulative towards the fans.  Well, let me check myself.  Professional sports are a dirty game, and I'm sure GM's do some dirty tricks, with media manipulation probably being one of the least important.  This is different.  It is disconcerting to see this stuff happen while we are so insanely bad. 


The fact that Joe D is defending our horrid peformance and making up stories about trades to keep heat off of his back is indefensible.  How can you sit and nothing while this crap is going on, and have the nerve to lie about it.  Right now he has something other than winning as his main priority, and for that he should go.  I'm not sure if he is protecting the players, or he's protecting the owners, or maybe Tom Wilson called in a favor to make the Pistons suck so revenue figures tank, but I don't really care.  I have always been a big Joe D fan (just got done defending him, actually).  I still hope (naively) for an amazing trade before February.   After he discovering his primary redeeming quality to be called in to question so blatantly, I'm ready for the Dumarsnera of Piston management to be over.

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