More Trade Ideas- no cows spared
Starting from the assumption that it will take the Pistons a few years (at a minimum) of genuine rebuilding to get back into contention, let's imagine if all players on the team are available.
The Pistons have roughly $41m committed through the '12-'13 season to five players:
Rip (12.5), BG (12.5), CV (8), Max (5), Bynum (3.5).
I think we're all in agreement that trading Rip is the preferred outcome. But regardless of that preference, having two sub-superstar shooting guards making a combined $25m locks the Pistons in an awkward salary structure limbo, so if no team will take Rip, what would an acceptable trade with Gordon look like (I have a few ideas)?
Also, IME the combo of CV and Max is not an efficient use of money. For a combined cost of $13m, the Pistons are getting two essentially average PF's. Are there any realistic trades that involve CV/Max that DBB would go for?
The Pistons have four veterans on expiring contracts:
Tay (11m), Wilcox (3m), TMac (1m), Big Ben (1m).
Should the team look to trade any of these guys for players with expensive long-term contracts, or is it better to try and flip them to contending teams for inferior players and draft picks, or just let them expire?
And now the young players who haven't yet reached their first contract extension:
Stuckey, Monroe, Daye, Jerebko, Summers, White.
It probably makes sense to separate them into tiers, I'm guessing the Pistons would break them down into something like: Tier 3- Summers/White. Tier 2- Jerebko/Daye, Tier 1- Stuckey/Monroe. Should any of them be on the table even if it's not a straight talent for talent trade, say if a team would take Rip off the Pistons hands, should Jod be willing to include Daye or Jerebko?
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Enough questions, here's a couple trade ideas:
BG division (simple):
Gordon for Dalembert (and let's say a 2nd round pick in 2011 and future protected 1st round pick).
Gordon for Troy Murphy (and similar package of picks).
Those both lighten the SG load and bring back a big with an expiring contract. Gordon would compliment Harris, Favors, and Lopez in NJ. In Sactown, Gordon could be the floor spacer to compliment Evans in the backcourt.
BG division (less simple):
Hollinger likes this idea. BG/Wilcox/Bynum for Camby/Andre Miller. Is it feasible? Maaayyybee...? Portland is at a crossroads, and might want to go young. Gordon would, in theory, be a good fit in a backcourt with Roy (like a supercharged Steve Blake). So Portland could run a Gordon/Roy/Batum/Aldridge/? line-up and put the ball back in Roy's hands as the primary play-maker. Bynum would be a change of pace back-up. For the Pistons, Miller's contract has a team option for next season, so the team could dump him and be left with only Camby (for just one year). This would go a long way toward bringing the Pistons long-term salary structure back in-line, and Camby is still an effective player.
finally, Stuckey and CV division:
??. Stuckey/CV for Jameer Nelson/Ryan Anderson. Stay with me-- for the Pistons, Anderson approximates CV's production at a much lower cost. Nelson already signed an extension for around what Stuckey will probably be getting, and IME Nelson is a better player. In sum, comparable production, less money spent. For Orlando, they're already gambling huge money on Arenas, this would eliminate potential alpha-dog conflict between Nelson and Arenas, Stuckey gives them a slashing guard to compliment all the shooters they have, and CV gives them a more established stretch-PF to platoon with Bass.
What says DBB? Is this RP worthy?
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nice post...
i like the New Jersey trade for New Jersey (or Brooklyn)
imagine a Lopez, Favors, Carmelo, Gordon, Harris starting lineup (if Carmelo signed with the Nets in the offseason so they wouldnt have to trade Harris and Favors for Melo)
or if Sactown or New Jersey would give us an unprotected first then Ben Gordon is gone
gordon for caron butler...
…and several bags of mark cuban’s money.
rip for caron would make me happier though.
I like the ideas
but what do we do with all the extra money, besides fill KDRIAGB’s pockets? We likely won’t get Melo in free agency, so what prevents Jod from making poor* decisions in free agency again?
*depending on your definition of “poor” and your opinion of the BG/CV signings.
Stuckey
I’m all for trading Stuckey for a bag of balls at this point just to prevent Dumars overpaying for him when he’s a restricted free agent. Stuckey is not a good basketball player to have on your team if you are trying to win a championship. He’s not great at anything, doesn’t pass well enough to play point and isn’t a good enough shooter to play the two. You don’t build your team around kinda sorta potentially good 6th man.
And if Dumars values Stuckey as a prospect more than Daye or Jerebko, the Pistons are going to suck until Dumars isn’t the GM anymore.
I love the Stuckey/CV to ORL deal. I think the Blazers are looking to deal Roy, not Miller. I don’t want Troy Murphy. I’d take the BG for Dalembert deal but I don’t know how the contract swap would play given the threat of a lockout.
If it’s impossible to deal Rip, then it’s logical that you have to move other guards and make the best of it. Rip should have a high energy defensive backup (cough Afflalo), not a bunch of other offensive guards.
Oh man are the Pistons a mess.
stuckey is the pistions best player then ben gorden the rest of the team iwould trade those our the building blocks you could add monroe andwhite as players i would keep as for the rest rip will be trade this year and so will princei canot sea any team in west not add them to thier rostear to try to cat ch lackers this year team licke dallass and spures might mack the adeal with the pistions want kind of playears the pistons might get back mostlickely ayoung player and and draft picks
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