How's the knee? Pistons 104 Celtics 92
by Kevin Sawyer on Dec 29, 2010 10:19 PM EST
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Key Players
Tracy McGrady:21 points on 11 shots, including an absolute dagger with three minutes left, to go with eight assists and three steals. Yeah, he bought that pump fake from Pierce in the first quarter, but he set the tone. Stuckey picked the wrong time to be hungover.
Austin Daye: Again, it is preposterous not to play the guy. He's young, and his game is unique. It will take time. Hopefully, someone gets the clue here.
Chris Wilcox: 10 points and eight rebounds on four field goal attempts is pretty good. Being the Pistons most effective player on a per-minute basis is even better.
Key stat
67% shooting from beyond the arc is obviously an outlier, but consistent perimeter offense AND defense is not mistake. Coach Kuester had better figure out what worked here.
Elsewhere in the NBA
Sanity seems to have been restored in OKC. Durant is destroying the Nets with 27 points late in the fourth quarter.
Whatever funk Chauncey Billups was in to start the year seems to have lifted. He has 21 through the third quarter, matching his average over the last five games, and he has been on fire from beyond the arc.
You won't believe this, but the Lakers are actually pretty good. They are presently destroying the Hornets on their home court. I don't get it. Aren't they supposed to be struggling due to esoteric issues that only sportswriters can understand?
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I'm starting to agree with the dude for Pistons powered
Stuckey will likely be the one gone by the deadline. Not something I want, but probably what will happen. Not even necessarily because of TMac either.
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He has a fair amount of value
It seems like a necessary move, much as I wish it weren’t so. I’ll miss my Stuckey jersey.
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by Thom_not_Tom on Dec 30, 2010 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
Someone with more free time than me
needs to do some research and figure out which teams might have interest in Stuckey and what we might be able to get for him. Not that I necessarily advocate getting rid of him, but he is kind of expendable.
"You’d be surprised what you can accomplish if you’re not concerned with making sense!"- PS
The Knicks might swap Anthony Randolph for Luke Ridnour
Is Stuckey better than Ridnour?
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
before anyone can answer that
I would say a more important question is whether Anthony Randolph is actually a worthwhile player. Getting into Nellie’s doghouse was excusable for a myriad of reasons. However, he should have been getting big minutes in NY where they badly need front court help, and yet he’s fallen out of the rotation.
All I’m saying is that if he does have an attitude problem, do we want him here with our current situation? Tay seems to have fallen in line, but we can’t say the same about Stuckey, Rip and Gordon.
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by bearded thundar on Dec 30, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Does he have an attitude problem or is he just getting Austin Daye'd?
He’s still only 21 and a whole year younger than Daye.
Even if he does have a bit of a ‘tude, it’s not like he’s going to break up any chemistry. I would think if there was an offer we have to take him on a flier.
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
from what I've heard
it’s attitude, too tired to dig up a link right now
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by bearded thundar on Dec 30, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Though
If we do trade Stuckey what do we have at point guard past this season?
by Taiwanese Tora on Dec 30, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Tay is gonna resign for about 12 million a year (cuz it's only fair)
And we’ll continue with our point forward play.
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T-MAC!
The following trade works though:
Rodney Stuckey
Rip Hamilton
Chris Wilcox
for
Beno Udrih
Samuel Dalembert
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Take Beno and there'll be no gas.
I really don’t see TMac staying, even if the Pistons want him to.
Unless he feels so thankful for the opportunity and feels that he can’t do without Kander, I think he’ll probably come off the bench for a contender next year.
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Fun with the DBB Search Bar:
I didn’t try to contain my own excitement that we signed dude this summer, and there were a solid chunk of DBBers that liked the prospect. Following the McGrady signing news:
At best, McGrady has a McRenaissance similar to McDiggidy’s and while he’s not going to lead us out of the 1st round of the playoffs, if he does show he has plenty left in the tank for this season then the possibility of flipping him for a 1st round draft pick from a middling contender looking for some extra punch off the bench is a definite possibility.— TheBoourns
The other nice thing about McGrady is his passing ability, which hasn’t gone away. Having guys like him and Monroe compensates for Stuckey’s below-average ability as a distributor.
— Thom_not_Tom
Tracey, albeit a broken form of him, is still a tremendously talented player that is looking to prove himself again – and Joe has been very successful with those types of people in the past.
— Bearded Thundar
This is just a dumb signing all the way around, and I really don’t care that it’s vet min.
— brgulker
Sorry Gulks, I couldn’t resist!
/toldyouso’d
//imtheasshole’d
///chuckyatkins’d
For Jonas!!
by Mike Payne on Dec 29, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I was initially very skeptical, though I eventually agreed with McPayne's logic.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Dec 29, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to remind all that I favored signing Tracy
But even with the worry that Daye would get less time bacause of this, which has happened a little bit (though he has probably cut more into Bynum’s time, which I have no problem with) I think that seeing him recuperate and get comfortable with his body has been worth it.
There are few highlights in this season, but I’m a sucker for a good starting over story.
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The previous two games, I was like, "hey T-Mac and Rip play well together"
Now I realize that T-Mac can make it happen for the rest of the squad as well.
I still say it’s because he’s one of the only Pistons that can command double-teams. But also, I’ll admit, I had no idea he was as good and as willing a passer as he’s turned out to be.
I’ve really loved watching McGrady blossom this season — but, I’m still not sure how it helps us in the long run…
I can envision a couple scenarios:
1) Performances like last night make Dumars realize that Stuckey is expendable, and we end up S&T’ing him.
2) TMac is coupled with something else to bring back assets and/or free up financial flexibility.
THAT SAID,
It’s been a blast to watch him play. I’m with Kriz, I’m a sucker for stories like this one, where everyone’s given up on the guy but himself. Dude’s been our best overall player in the minutes he’s had.
And yes
I definitely deserved to get called out. Couldn’t have been more wrong about the guy.
/crow tastes better after a win’d
I feel like I just came across as an asshole. I didn’t mean to. I appreciate the friendly ribbing … and yeah, I was totally wrong. So, potentially needless comment is potentially needless, but didn’t want to leave the conversation as a dick.
/been a rough day’d
You came across fine
Plus, it was fair to be skeptical of the T-Mac pickup on the grounds that we were already stocked at the positions that at least I thought he played: SG and SF. I didn’t really see him as a PG. But he certainly has shown he can be effective there.
no you didn't come across as an asshole at all
totally fine response, MFBRG. I reserve the asshole crown all to myself!! (and also most certainly deserve any forthcoming call-outs as well when I swing-and-a-miss on something).
For Jonas!!
YES, WE WON!!
I went to shopping with my wife and got back home.
I rush into PC and recognized we beat Celtics!!
I could not follow the game, what was the good?
Where broken English happens
I'm not sure if I was a jock strap sniffing Tmac stalker.
After a quick search, I found I posted this in 2008:
The reason I have been keen on T-Mac, is that a hungry supremely talented player can be a difference maker.
I can say that I was happy we signed him and hopeful that he might get some of his game back (so I didn’t feel like a stooge wearing Tmac 5s) but he just gets better and better. It’s at the point where I expect the old Tmac to come back now.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
Chris WIlcox was SICK!
Against the celtics scrub small ball lineup where baby was the biggest guy on the floor. We’ll need to hold onto our big wheels for a couple more games while we see if he is serious
I Was On A Plane Back To Vegas
But any win over the Cs is satisfying. Far and away, the douchiest team, with the douchiest fan base in the NBA (the Lakers have the worst fans, just not as all encompassingly douchie as the Celts’ fans).
just Vpinion
The fact that Celtics fans aren’t the worst makes them oddly more douchey.
by Biz Markie Moon on Dec 30, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
KG has more miles on the odometer than 'Sheed
He started playing big NBA minutes as a teenager and he’s 6’11. It’s amazing he’s lasted this long. I hate KG but he’s had a pretty long career for his game and size.
Rockets want an All Star for Yao
Rip is an All Star (or at least he once was).
Do it Joe!
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Um... what?
“Of course, Kevin Garnett, after earning three unwarranted superstar calls, filibustered his knee and had to leave this embarrassment.”
Are you kidding me? Charlie V definitely deserved the defensive fouls he was causing. He was ramming into KG OUTSIDE of the play. All three defensive fouls were correct.
Also, he didn’t filibuster his knee, it was just the muscle in his calf – an update at the Celtics headquarters told us. (Whew for us Celtics fans)
And yes, I have to admit… this game was truly an embarrassment, but oh well… C’s definitely didn’t show up to play and it seemed like they were playing a day after the New Years…
Btw, how is it karma for KG to tell Charlie he is a cancer to his team / league? It’s typical trash talk and if Charlie had any balls, he wouldn’t have been a b*tch about it and put it out there on Twitter and have the media involved. All trash talk STAYS on the court – it’s something these players have always done. Charlie V broke that ‘rule’ among players and brought the media into all this junk because his stupid self wanted some attention. I’m not going to go any further on this because I really don’t mean to be a troll on your blog.
Good game, Pistons! I definitely enjoyed watching them play the last game. The defense was excellent and they executed the offense really well. Really hope your coach learns from this game and better understands how to motivate the players and get that same quality teamwork in the next games for the Pistons.
Among other things, KG didn't say "you are a cancer to your team/league"
He said, “you look like a cancer patient.” If you think he said the former, respectfully, I don’t think you really understand how trash talking — by KG or in general — works.
Don't know what you were watching
But those calls were foul. You see two or three similar plays every time down the court, in every game.
Scott Hastings was the greatest player in the league in Bulls vs. Lakers.
It’s typical trash talk and if Charlie had any balls, he wouldn’t have been a b*tch about it and put it out there on Twitter and have the media involved. All trash talk STAYS on the court – it’s something these players have always done. Charlie V broke that ‘rule’ among players and brought the media into all this junk because his stupid self wanted some attention. I’m not going to go any further on this because I really don’t mean to be a troll on your blog.
Charlie is an unique case. He and most anyone who has Alopecia universalis are subject to constant ridicule and bullying. He has made his support for kids with Alopecia central to his career focus and fights to reverse the stigma associated with disease-born baldness. So when KG calls him a cancer patient, which he most certainly did, he’s going to stand up publicly against that as he should for those who bully his condition. It’s not about being a “bitch” and talking about it on twitter, because he did the right thing in the eyes of the kids he supports as a public figure.
Oh, and my definition of “bitch”? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT-4Lyx-_mM
For Jonas!!
by Mike Payne on Dec 30, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
That video is hilarious! I was watching the Calderon game at the time, and attempted to “Scanner” KG through my TV. Hate that guy. Wish McDyess could have caught the bitch.
Scott Hastings was the greatest player in the league in Bulls vs. Lakers.
by newfy on Dec 30, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
McDyess fighting Garnett is the exact basketball equivalent of Andre Johnson fighting Cortland Finnegan. And I’m sure it would have ended very similarly.
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
McDyess really was an amazing combination
Of being nice and soft-spoken while at the same time being incredibly mentally and physically tough. Of all the Pistons of the last decade or so, he would be one of the first I would like to have dinner with and one of the very last I would want mad at me.
Kind of like JoD — crazy nice gentleman off the court, all business on the court. I bet they had some good conversations over the years.
by garrettelliott on Dec 30, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Not to beat the KG/Cancer Patient horse some more.
But I had alopeica. It left a significant bald spot on the top of my head, something I’m really embarrassed about. So I can’t even imagine what it’s like to have no hair whatsoever.
To either A) regrow the hair or B) prevent the spread (it was never explained to me and I was only 10 so I probably wouldn’t understand), so I had to get 10 shots in my head once a week for four weeks. Unfortunately, the hair never grew back. Something else grew there instead, although it would be many years before it would surface.
It was a tumor.
I had it removed and brought in for tests, and found out that it was benign. But I spent the next few weeks not knowing whether or not I had cancer, and that scared the hell out of me.
So combining “cancer patient” with “alopecia” hits me pretty God damn hard. It represents both an embarrassing and scary aspect of my life. I never cared for KG before, but I can understand trash-talk. I do it. A lot of people do it. But this was super weak on KG’s part.
So he can lick my dorsal fin.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Dec 30, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
thanks for sharing with us
I understand just how hard that must have been; you are a brave man and stronger person for it
I have decided to start a career in rap under the presumptuous name of Dextrorotatory Glucose. However, you may call me "D-Sugar" for short
by bearded thundar on Dec 31, 2010 7:09 AM EST up reply actions
But KG said it was that way, so it must be true.
Also KG said Charlie said it through twitter because he wanted attention, so that must be true too.
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Actually the second part I think it was Ainge
Anyways a Celtics said it, so it must be true also. Celtics don’t lie, Pistons do.
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Praise Bill Simmons
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
and by Praise you really mean "Die"...and by Die you really mean, the german word for "The" (Sideshow Bob'd)
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Dec 30, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Looking at this box score, I really don't understand how we scored 102 points...
I mean our $23.5 million dollars worth of shooting guards combined for 21 points, 8 assists, 3 rebounds, and 4 turnovers…meanwhile, Chris Wilcox and Tracy McGrady combined for 31 points, 12 rebounds, 9 assists, and 6 steals…WTF MATE!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Dec 30, 2010 2:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
for wtf lol
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by bearded thundar on Dec 30, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
They scored 100 in the last game too and I'm not quite sure how either.
But unlike last game the Celtics only managed to score 92, while the Bobcats got to 105.
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And somehow, Greg Monroe only gets 9 minutes?
I am so perplexed I’m actually glad I recorded this. I’ll go back and watch it when I get home.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Ben and Monroe were playing really well when they were in
And CV got hot in the second half. We were already playing somewhat unusually large lineups for the Pistons (meaning “a normal sized lineup for every other team in the league, with a somewhat taller than average PG when McGrady was in”). So god forbid we would really want to take advantage of a team whose main bigs were the ancient O’Neals and the short-if-stout Davis.
Seriously, I think everything was working so well for most of the game — especially with Wilcox — Kuester just figured he wouldn’t mess with it.
With Wilcox coming to life, and TMac and Prince playing well, is there someone out there that could use…
TMac + Prince + Wilcox
Gives at least two rotation swingmen for one last push at a chip, as well as loads of financial flexibility. Any suitors out there for something like that?
how wise is it
to trade 3 of your best players? this is an absurd situation! all expire, so they are all probably gone anyway, but if we want wins this year we’re gonna need them. we need a good return.
i hear ya
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather package Tayshaun with Rip Hamilton for a big than send out Wilcox and T-Mac. T-Mac’s an insane bargain right now. Maybe throw him in if we get the deal of a lifetime, but I’d like for the Pistons to make a run at Marc Gasol (or even Nene!)
by Biz Markie Moon on Dec 30, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
What I meant was is unless we can take on some good salary and get a useful big, why not just let T-Mac expire.
by Biz Markie Moon on Dec 30, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
John Wall here we come!!!!
Wait a minute……
by garrettelliott on Dec 30, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Remember Dirk isn't playing.
Also Orlando has been lookin good lately. Apparently Rashard Lewis was that bad.
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by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Haha you got me Kriz
My favorite part of the spurs is Popavich. I’d take him over any coach including the Zen Master.
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by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
That is a beautiful man.
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Pop is obviously a great coach
But I will always remember him most for his quote after the trade that sent Gasol to the Lakers. Something to the effect of, “if that happened in a rotisserie league, the commissioner would void it for being so one-sided.”
I'm pretty sure V reserves the thumbs up for special situations
Like to signal that the asteroid is is rigged to blow
Or to signal that gas prices need to go either up or down.
by garrettelliott on Jan 1, 2011 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Bonner is my favorite gumpy dude ever
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by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
JVG during a game a couple years ago was talking about how Bonner would walk around San Antonio and go into a Subway, wait in line like everyone else, and tell them about how he can’t believe he’s in the NBA. A real man of the people.
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by Roll The Dyess on Dec 30, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
He refused to buy a car in Toronto, saying it would be like selling out.
by garrettelliott on Dec 31, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
The Spurs did a calendar about 2 or 3 years ago
and I’m pretty sure everyone had a photo taken by a professional except Bonner who had a picture taken with a personal camera. It looked as if it was taken in a bar.
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