How low can we go? Pistons @ Nets
by Kevin Sawyer on Feb 2, 2010 7:30 PM EST
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PrintDetroit Pistons at New Jersey Nets, Feb 2, 2010 7:30 PM EST
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Detroit Pistons: 15-31 (4-17 road, -5.3 margin)
New Jersey Nets: 4-42 (3-19 road, -12.0 margin)
Oppo Research
Joe Dumars recently expressed concern that he doesn't know what he has in this team. With two games this week against the Nets, he should have a better idea. Is this a young core that needs to come together, or a bottom of the barrel lottery squad in need of dymanite.
If Vegas is in any guide, it's the latter. This morning, the line on this game was nearly even (it has since moved to -3). People looked at a road matchup with one of the worst teams in the history of the league, and called it a pick 'em. Meanwhile, the Grizzlies are 4.5 to 1 dogs against the Cavaliers. Think about how things have changed in three seasons.
As for the Nets, the writers are using terms like "they're playing better defense lately". That's about all there is to say. Brook Lopez has shown a lot of promise on the offensive end, and Devin Harris returns from injury, so there is some semblance of a team here. But when Chris Douglas-Roberts is your third option on offense, you're just a bad team.
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Keys for Detroit
Get Gordon going - At a certain point, we have to feature him in the offense.
Feed it to Charlie V. inside - I've got a feeling I can just cut and paste this one for the rest of the season.
Stop Courtney Lee - I could just see him randomly owning us for 30 tonight.
Question of the Game
Can Jerebko keep it up? He showed some offensive spunk the other night, and heaven knows we could use some.
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If we hit a few threes tonight
We can climb out of the “worst in the league” basement, since we’re facing the second worst in 3-point shooting. woohoo!
This is false.
I refuse to believe that Joe Dumars took a narcoleptic guy who got shot in the stomach and barely played at Mississippi State before barely playing at UAB. That did NOT happen.
by Other Matt on Feb 2, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That would be awesome
Except then he would get suspended for a couple of games. I’m not sure I could stand to watch this team without the prospect of seeing JJ on the floor.
Somebody needs to take up the Laimbeer mantle.
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odds of that happening are surprisingly low
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can't say I'm surprised at all
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Dude, I’m kidding. Kidding. Kidding.
I didn’t take offense then, and I’m not taking offense now. Envision us at a bar, joking around, and you make a sarcastic joke that I fail to get. And then I remind you about a previous joke that you made about me that failed. Then we laugh it off and enjoy the rest of the game.
I’ll forgo all sarcasm with you, if you prefer. But the cattiness has gotta stop between us one way or another.
That arena is atrocious.
It’s seriously more dilapidated than Crisler Arena.
Yes.
I’m closer to Philly than North Jersey, though.
This one didn't warrant a trip to the Izod!?
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Nope.
It’s like an hour and a half to get up there considering traffic and everything. Plus, I’m busy as hell and just don’t have time to go up there in the middle of the week. We went for AI’s first game last year and had a great time, but that arena is seriously atrocious.
We did make it to the game in Philly in December, though.
Plus, as Steve Kays pointed out in the first comment of the thread, 17-92 combined record doesn’t really appeal, especially to go through all that you just explained.
How was Philly’s stadium? You still trying to make it around the nation for all the baseball stadiums? (I hope I remembered that right and it’s you I’m thinking of who’s doing that…)
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The Wachovia Center is pretty nice. Not really a bad seat in the joint. I’ve been to 2 NBA games there, one in a club level suite (which was awesome) and one sitting about 15 rows off the floor in the corner. Both spots were excellent. We also sat up in the second level for last year’s NCAA Tournament. I thought it was pretty comparable to catching a game at The Palace.
I’m not sure who’s doing the baseball thing, but by rule I try to go see games in stadiums I haven’t been to. Since college, I’ve added:
PNC Park (Pittsburgh)
Great American (Cincy)
Camden Yards
Nationals Park
Citizens Bank (Philly)
Safeco Field
PNC Park is far and away the best place I’ve seen a game. It’s a shame the Pirates suck. I really liked Safeco, too, but apparently sat in the wrong spot. We were down the LF line there, but supposedly sitting up high on the 1B side gives you a stunning view of the sunset over the sound. Camden is awesome and it’s been overrun with Tigers fans both times I’ve been. Citizens Bank Park is pretty good, too. For some reason, I think the OF seats there offer really good sight lines.
Other Stadiums
Oh, and I’ve also seen games at:
Tiger Stadium & Comerica
Old Three Rivers
Old Vet
Coors Field
Old Yankee Stadium
Old Shea
Kauffman Stadium.
I’d rank the top 3 as PNC, Coors, and Kauffman (though I haven’t been since they renovated). I’m also partial to Comerica for obvious reasons, but it stacks up very well compared to the other places I’ve been.
I thought you told me back in the day that you were trying to hit every stadium
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I may have
It’s been a long time, my friend.
I was at the Pirates/Tigers series last summer and agree that PNC is unreal, but Comerica is probably up there with it, but for us the novelty has probably worn off.
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That sentence was worded terribly, but you get what I mean
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I agree
Comerica stacks up really really well. PNC was just so well done and the view is spectacular. If they ever get good, the atmosphere in and around that stadium would be unreal. And I say this with zero experience of being in Comerica in 06 because I was interviewing for jobs as a senior and missed out on the baseball thing.
To get a similar view as PNC, we would’ve had to put Comerica over in Riverside on the Canada side and opening the stadium to the skyline. Obviously that wouldn’t work, but PNC capitalized on Pittsburgh’s layout.
PNC was sold out during the Tigers series and the atmosphere was pretty phenomenal. I forget the name of the bar, but one directly across the street furthest from the bridge was strictly drunken Tigers fans. Needless to say, I had an awesome time. And I say that even though we got swept and that was the same weekend the Wings lost to the Penguins.
Of course, that didn’t even come close to 2006 at Comerica during the Yanks series. We stood by the statues and I don’t know if there’s a better “seat” in that stadium.
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I was just thinking the Chinese are the only sponsors they could get
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a little bit yes
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if I said me would you believe it?
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JJ!!!!!!!!
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miracles do occur!!
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ben
I think its really underrated what ben has to do on a daily basis being a small 6-9 center trying to rebound over 7 footers.
he’s really only like 6’7 look at pics of him standing next to like tyrus thomas and you’ll see he’s shorter
by don'tworryaboutit on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
i think that says even more then.
I think he is just a step ahead of kendrick perkins in the best defender of dwight howard in the league.
That was painful
Net’s announcer: “That attempt just typified the Pistons season.” Sadly, I have to agree.
My god, we’re making the Nets look good with our awful defense. They are getting wherever they want and moving the ball without any resistance.
In other news, Paul Pierce may have a broken foot that could keep him out for a few months.
Eat that, Boston.
if only
they could find a pair of veteran 2s and 3s to fill their holes with Pierce and Allen ailing…
I forgot about the most embarassing team product ever...
the Nets’ reversible jerseys. Just horrible, horrible.
If the Nets win either of these games against the Pistons, does that change anything? Will it force Joe D to make a deal?
whistle blew, Quinn you can get up
you’re not going to draw a red card there
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there is always an exception to the rule
durant, lebron.
but even KG didn’t get “great” untill maybe 5-6 seasons in the league.
Exceptions?
Compare the number of highly regarded collegians that have failed in the NBA with the number of high schoolers that have failed. High schoolers have actually done better as a whole, despite the high profile failures.
If you found numbers i might believe you
but I bet if you took the ratio of fail high schoolers(to successes) to fail collegiate players it would probably be about the same.
Besides college is never a good indication on whether a player will be good in the NBA due to the lack of pick and roll offense run in college.
Yes.
It’s so painfully awkward and hilarious.
ok this is worthy of recs
notice the alt version of datsyuk’s commercial…it’s like they told him to make it less awkward by smiling and using gestures
what do we call Maxiell?
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by Packey on Feb 2, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
for real though, the Maxiell blocks are INSANE
i like the one against KG and the one against tyson chandler the best.
the shannon brown one is pretty good too.
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stupid NCIS made me lose control of the tv.
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I think I'm adding those sideburns to a hate list around here...
but I see the comparison.
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+1 for luda
specially with the boourns
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He should able to play an entire 48 minutes after digestion.
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i will say this
Maxiell is shooting muc h better this season than previous season…jumper/fadeway wise
the admin sees that its illegal to stream nba league pass games so they block it
by don'tworryaboutit on Feb 2, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
They usually come back after 5 minutes or so, though.
by garrettelliott on Feb 2, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
i figured they named the stream something else to attempt to cover up what they really streaming or something
by don'tworryaboutit on Feb 2, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Glad to see the Pistons are finally ahead of a 4-42 team
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his ast to to ratio
is better the bynums now
by BennieBladesFan on Feb 2, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
if he is shooting better, i can see him an all-star next year
by SHH on Feb 2, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
The only way Stuckey is getting in is as a coach’s choice, and that probably won’t happen with Rondo, Johnson, Derrick Rose, and maybe even a few others in the way.
by garrettelliott on Feb 2, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, so he needs to be a lot better. like the year that Harris made his way to all-star
by SHH on Feb 2, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
I would've thought it was khandor.
and all his superior basketball knowledge.
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by madpoopz on Feb 2, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A lot of people have said Tay needs a fresh start on a new team to revitalize him, but watching him play makes me skeptical of his ability to revitalize. I can totally see him going to a new team and just fading away since he wouldn’t have his Piston mystique any more. He’d just be a new face on a new team, with declining skills (even though his resume is nice). He could prove me wrong if he gets traded, but I don’t think he has much left in the tank.
by garrettelliott on Feb 2, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think you’re right ,and honestly, that makes me sad. I’ve always liked Tay, and I hoped he’d find a new home after leaving the D.
I actually thought he’d be a Piston for life, and I didn’t even notice his skills declining but he really did peak a few years ago. And even then, he wasn’t an all-world talent or anything — just the right piece on the right team. It’s tough to watch him out there, but maybe it’s just the lingering injury? He DID have back surgery, which is pretty serious….
by garrettelliott on Feb 2, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
I like him, but I think Tayshaun has been pretty much overrated for years, probably because the impressive block in playoffs.
by SHH on Feb 2, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else...
…a little concerned that the guys we spent $90 million on this summer aren’t playing in crunch time?
When it's Charlie "black hole on D" V?
That’s a good thing
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One just had back spasms and the other still isn’t 100% probably.
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Good points
But I don’t think they’ll be out there in crunch time anyways….on the defensive end anyways. Oh well.
I'd like to think Rip just put this game away
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I thought like that in the past...
and we lost.
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Maybe they want John Wall to steal their minutes after all?
by garrettelliott on Feb 2, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
way to make the nets earn that basket
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At least his alma mater is doing well tonight
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no
its a loss cuz now we wont get john wall
lol
im sorry. it was obviously a joke though
a win is a win is a win is a win
… even against the Nets :-/
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hopefully our summer FA additions
can get healthy over the all-star break.
I think the pistons would scare almost any team in the NBA when everyone is healthy.
League pass update
Monta Ellis might get 50+ tonight. He has 34 in the 3rd. Rockets up 16, though.
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on pace to
He’s 13-21 right now. Next most points on GSW is 7
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jinxed him
34 points when I posted this with 3 minutes left in the 3rd and now he has 34 points with 4 minutes left in the 4th
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monta ellis
he is a pure scorer.
very athletic and hasn’t reached his prime yet. Should be an Western conference All-star starter if it wasn’t for kobe.
Yet GSW wanna trade the dude in lieu of Curry.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Ah, so they won?
Excellent. I know TJL would probably rather us drop this one but we need wins. I think the draft will be good to us regardless. It’s a stacked draft in my opinion.
I wish I coulda watched it, ugly or otherwise. I love watching games w/the DBB fam to goof off with.
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Watching Mich. St vs. Wisco.
MSU is getting served with a beatdown.
But it’s on ESPN and they have Erin Andrews doing interviews, and man that lady sure is easy on the eyes.
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