Not Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel Yet: Pistons 97, Nets 93
What Happened:
The Pistons simply aren't good enough to dig themselves out of a hole against most teams, especially on the road. Fortunately, the Nets aren't most teams, so after giving up 29 points on 63% in the first quarter, the Pistons managed to clamp down in the second (allowing just 35.3 FG%) before taking control in a pivotal third, but the question remains: where's the effort early?
In any case, the effort was there late, from the players on the floor to the coaching staff, who drew up a nifty in-bounds alley-oop from Rip Hamilton to Tayshaun Prince to seal the win in the closing seconds. The Pistons still have some serious problems to address before becoming a semi-legitimate contender, but at least the strengths we thought would be there coming into the season are finally starting to show themselves -- namely, a deep and talented backcourt.
The Good:
Rip Hamilton recently noted that he's willing to become more of a distributor than a scorer if it means getting his team on the right track. Not only did his promise come true, it came within the flow of the offense and didn't detract from his own scoring chances: he finished the game with 22 points and seven dimes, a near mirror image of Rodney Stuckey's 21 points and eight dimes. The big bonus? The duo combined for just a single turnover.
Stuckey had some trouble with his shot -- he finished just 6-17 from the field -- but made up for it by getting to the line 12 times. Games would be a lot more enjoyable to watch if the Pistons keep up this kind of guard play.
Ben Wallace was a defensive menace as usual, finishing with four steals. However, it was his lone block that put him in the record books, becoming the shortest player in NBA history to tally 2,000 blocks in his career. Round numbers are arbitrary milestones (he was shortest player with 1,999 blocks coming into the game, no?), but they're still nice to see, especially as it pertains to his Hall of Fame chances down the road.
The Bad:
Ben Gordon played an ineffective 14 minutes and change, shooting just 2-6 from the field (7 points) -- in his three games since returning to action, he's a combined 7-23 from the field. He's a streak shooter, and given how well the rest of the guards played, there wasn't a huge need to get him going. Still, it's been months since we've seen the explosive scorer capable of putting the team on his back -- at some point he'll no longer be able to point to rust or injury as an excuse.
Charlie Villanueva was awful, too (scoreless in eight minutes), but it was a minor surprise to see him back on the floor after he missed the last game with a back injury. Plus, his absence opened the door for Jason Maxiell, who scored eight points, grabbed six boards and finished a plus-10 in 27 minutes.
Also, poor Austin Daye must have gotten lost at Somerset Mall -- it's the only reason why I can justify giving the kid a DNP-CD.
The Jarvis Hayes Unsung Hero:
MFWB -- for new readers, that's "marvelously friendly Will Bynum" -- was back on the floor after 16 games on the trainer's table with a pair of sprained ankles. He squeezed a lot of production into his 17 minutes of action (10 points, three dimes, two boards and a steal). Apparently guys making the league minimum can't afford to know definition of rust.
The Takeaway:
As enjoyable as it is to see a competitive game, let alone an actual win, the fact a four-win team took the Pistons to the wire is still a bitter pill to swallow, especially on a night in which the Pistons gave veterans heavy minutes at the expense of young players like Daye (aforementioned DNP) and Jonas Jerebko (who played just 15 minutes, less than half as many as he did on Sunday against the Magic).
Perhaps the reason is because Joe Dumars has asked John Kuester to showcase the vets for a trade -- if that's the case, both Hamilton and Prince boosted their stock. Prince finished with 15 points, a season high and his fourth straight game in double-digits, and eight rebounds, and impressive tally on the heels of his nine-board game on Sunday.
Perhaps Tay is finally getting healthy, or perhaps the carrot of being moved to a legitimate contender has increased his ability to grit his teeth and play through pain. Either way, he's been surprisingly solid over the last week and change. Fortunately, all of the injured and recently ailing vets will have some time to recuperate -- the Pistons don't play again until Friday in Indianapolis.
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third quarter surge I guess
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by Packey on Feb 3, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Mini Foward Will Bynum
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Watching it right now. Why the hell not. Those are my dudes
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
glad will was back
but I’m not sure hes comfortable with the game speed. He didn’t have his usual quickness and it didn’t seem like he was as comfortable dishing the ball to his mates.
On another note, the pistons were out rebounded. Which doesn’t happen often and when it does it seems to lead to a defeat.
What to do with Stuckey?
He is a better 2 guard right now, but if he keeps TOs down he can be that PG.
Hard one(loss) to swallow, thats what she said.
Just finished watching the replay. This game somehow managed to confirm most of my most pessimistic concerns about the roster and still be really fun to watch.
Basically… a decent backcourt + 35 year old Ben Wallace = meh.
meh = better than NJ.
So, yeah, dead horse, etc…. but seriously, how in the world does Ben Gordon make us better? A very large chunk of his minutes are going to be coming from Stuckey and Rip, and he’s not a clear upgrade (or not an upgrade at all) over either of them, and he isn’t definitively better than MFWB either. The one perk of having our guard depth back is not being forced to play Chucky, which is probably the difference between winning and losing tonight’s game. But still, if having all your guys back means you squeak out a win over NJ, that’s not such a good sign.
The one big + for me from the game was watching some of the old chemistry between Big Ben, Tay and Rip. They had some really great sequences together (…hope Danny Ainge was watching!).
So, yeah, dead horse, etc…. but seriously, how in the world does Ben Gordon make us better? A very large chunk of his minutes are going to be coming from Stuckey and Rip, and he’s not a clear upgrade (or not an upgrade at all) over either of them, and he isn’t definitively better than MFWB either
Perhaps more pertinently, he isn’t capable of doing what Rip did last night — running the show and distributing the basketball.
Rip and MFWB combined for a very good PG performance last night (even though Rip was listed in the books at SG).
The one big + for me from the game was watching some of the old chemistry between Big Ben, Tay and Rip. They had some really great sequences together (…hope Danny Ainge was watching!).
Why haven’t we considered trading Ben Gordon instead of Rip in that Boston scenario? Wouldn’t Boston love a guy like BG to replace Ray Allen?
Yes. Please.
That’s the one scenario I don’t think any of us ever consider— how do we get out from Rip’s horrible contract? We don’t. We get rid of BG’s horrible contract. He’s younger, more attractive, and at a price point where you’d think a contender who saw him as a “missing piece” would be willing to bite. Rip’s game is going to age very well, as we’ve all said ad nauseam, and I think he’ll actually play high-level, maybe All-Star caliber ball for the duration of his contract easily. Let’s keep him around, let him and Stuck play PG-by-committee and fill our holes at PF/C.
As enjoyable as it is to see a competitive game, let alone an actual win, the fact a four-win team took the Pistons to the wire is still a bitter pill to swallow, especially on a night in which the Pistons gave veterans heavy minutes at the expense of young players like Daye (aforementioned DNP) and Jonas Jerebko (who played just 15 minutes, less than half as many as he did on Sunday against the Magic).
I think it’s also possible that the entire organization didn’t want to lose to one of the worst teams in history, isn’t it?
I mean, I agree with you — I want to see more Daye and JJ moving forward, because they appear to be part of our (uncertain) future — but we couldn’t afford to lose last night to that team.
Nor we can afford to Saturday at home.
by brgulker on Feb 3, 2010 8:39 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Pick another night to bench the vets and play the rookies. Losing to the Nets would have been beyond embarrassing.
by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 3, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Dumars knows the mood around town.
No way would he or Kuester do anything in any way to lose that Nets game. It’s been said, but if they lost to such a dysfunctional and seemingly destined to lose team.. that just makes both men look that much worse.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
I still think Ben Gordon is the future. Check the first bunch of games this year and that’s what he’s going to do next year, and the year after that, and the year after that. I don’t think we should give up on him and his gigantic contract yet.
by garrettelliott on Feb 3, 2010 1:05 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I haven't Tay dunk the ball in a looong time :)
by JC no1 pistons fan on Feb 3, 2010 5:20 PM CST reply actions
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