It was so fun, they played five extra minutes: Pistons 109, Spurs 101 (OT)
What Happened:
Highlights in this Season of Suck have been few and far between, but of Detroit's 20 wins, Sunday's overtime victory over the hated Spurs has to rank somewhere close behind last month's signature win over the Celtics.
Yes, the Spurs were missing Tony Parker, and, sure, they were on the final leg of an eight-game road trip (which sounds worse than it really is given that the All-Star break split the road trip in two), but beating this team will always taste extra sweet until nightmares of the 2005 NBA Finals begin to fade.
And while many of the names and faces have changed over the last half decade (or in the case of Antonio McDyess, switched uniforms), this game certainly had a playoff-type physicality from the get-go, with both sides hitting the floor -- and each other -- hard. It's how basketball between grown men is supposed to be played.
The Good:
Detroit's vaunted three-guard lineup carried the team, as Richard Hamilton (27 points, five rebounds), Rodney Stuckey (20 points, six assists) and Ben Gordon (21 points, five assists) all produced. Hamilton has been hot for awhile (and his consecutive free throws made streak has now reached 47), but it was nice to see Gordon find his stroke.
Gordon only shot 1-2 from 3-point land, but he had more than a few long jumpers just a step inside the stripe. A long jumper with your heels touching the 3-point line is the least efficient shot a player can take, but if not thinking about his feet and simply firing away when he feels he has a good look will get him in the groove, I'll take it.
Speaking of the long ball, Stuckey was a perfect 3-for-3 from long distance, including two desperation heaves to beat the shot clock. Again, I'll take it.
The Bad:
As satisfying of a win as this was, it almost didn't happen. As Detroit nursed a 87-78 lead with 3:36 left in the fourth, the Spurs employed the always frustrating Hack-a-Ben strategy that resulted in Ben Wallace going 4-10 from the charity stripe over the next five possessions. Call it cowardly if you must, but it was effective as hell, and it allowed the Spurs to take the clock out of the equation while chipping away at Detroit's lead.
Ironically, John Kuester left Wallace in the game until the 2:05 mark, five seconds until fouling away from the ball would result in a free throw and possession. Over the final two minutes and change, San Antonio made up the remaining four points and sent the game into overtime. Fortunately for Pistons fans, that's all the Spurs had left -- Detroit outscored the Spurs 16-8 in the extra frame to put this game on ice.
The Antonio McDyess Unsung Hero:
Let's just give this one to McDyess, shall we? It's still strange to see him wearing the silver and black, but at least Gregg Popovich seemed to recognize what a return trip to the Palace meant to him by giving him 31 minutes off the bench, just the second time since November he's topped 28 minutes. He responded with 13 points and eight boards, flashing that silky smooth jumper from the top of the key that you know is going in the moment it leaves his finger tips.
As for a Piston, Tayshaun Prince came through with yet another sneaky effective game (16 points, nine boards) while playing a game-high 45 minutes. I'm still not convinced riding him while letting Austin Daye collect cobwebs on the bench is best for the long-tem future of the franchise, but it's hard to be too cynical after an increasingly rare victory.
The Takeaway:
This roster, no matter how flawed it may be, can still beat a legitimate contender on any given night. And perhaps more encouraging, Stuckey, Hamilton and Gordon can in fact play with each other, and play well. Each of those three tallied at least 34 minutes and 20 points with a combined 14 assists and six turnovers. Barring a significant trade or lottery pick, this will be a perimeter-based team for the next several years, so getting efficient production out of those three is key.
(Also, this is kind of nice: the Pistons are 5-4 so far in February, and with cupcakes like the Kings, Clippers and Warriors on tap in the four games, there's a somewhat decent chance this team will actually post a winning month for the first time since December 2008. Yes, it really has been that long.)
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Wish I could have seen all of this one. Looks like our backcourt finally put together something like they were expected to all year.
It's on rebroadcast in an hour or two.
Sometimes (like tonight) I work during the game, and if it was good (like tonight) I watch it later. We’re both on comcast, right?
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Yessir.
From now on (as of tonight, Monday), I’m going to be DVR’ing games … The plan is to start watching the recorded 1st quarter around halftime and be live for the 4th quarter.
Free HD DVR FTMFW!
Hey guy,
Having to watch every single Pistons game on DVR recording, I can tell you that if you wait until halftime to start, you won’t catch up to the end of the game. Based on 2.5 years worht of League Pass experience on the West Coast, I’d say that starting a game roughly 35-50 minutes after the recording starts should get you to right around live sometime in the 4th quarter…depending on how the game is called and when you start the recording (league pass picks up exactly at 4:30 so recording any additional pre-game isn’t an option.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Thanks much for the tip. That’s much appreciated.
I’ll probably miss the beginning of a lot of game threads, but I had to do something to compromise with my wife … watching games was just eating too much time.
Yeah...I hear ya
I haven’t posted in a game thread in a long long time…usually I’ll watch TNT live or Sunday ABC games live but given the performance of the team, we don’t have too many (if any) of those this year.
If you switch over to DVR’ing you can totally make it through a game in 2 hours or less just by cutting out commercials, timeouts, half-time, and if you really gotta move, you can skip forward 30 seconds during 2 shot free throws just after the foul is called and you’ll come in typically just as they’re shooting their second free throw or depending on the player, just as they are inbounding/dribbling up the floor.
You do miss out on some of the analysis though which is unfortunate but there hasn’t been much positive analysis this season outside of Jerebko so unless you just love hearing Blaha wax poetic about his favorite swede (and in all honesty, who doesn’t?), it’s not the end of the world to skip through it.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I’ve been doing some number crunching on Rip/BG “co-existing” and this was just the 2nd game in 19 games played together that they have BOTH played effectively. The other game was the season opener in Memphis.
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I'd just like to say...
…that tonight’s win was due to the three-guard rotation and the elite level of team cohesion that ensued.
by -PS- on Feb 21, 2010 9:59 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
-MFPS-
expertitude
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Nice recap. That was an enjoyable game for sure. It’s so nice to see the guys play well when it’s been such a crappy season. As much as I don’t mind the losing now and welcome the draft, it’s refreshing to hit jumpers and pull out a win. And also this:

by garrettelliott on Feb 21, 2010 10:00 PM CST reply actions 9 recs
That bitch got green alll over it
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
With Taye Diggs as Ben Gordon? Intriguing.
by Zachatollah on Feb 21, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
Watching Portland/Utah. I really like Boozer’s game………in Utah. I don’t think he’d be as effective any where else. Utah is just so fluid, everybody plays well. And that Deron Williams guy is pretty good, too.
by garrettelliott on Feb 21, 2010 10:02 PM CST reply actions
Sloan's the man.
21 out of 22 seasons coached are winning ones. Wow.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
pair boozer with a bruiser, defensive center
and he’ll be even better. he’s not a perfect match with Okur. Give Boozer the Randolph to Memphis treatment, his numbers will climb.
Aminu, here we come!!11
This one goes to OT
PDX blew a huge lead… and Booze got it to go to overtime.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
I’ve never been a Camby fan, despite his gaudy numbers sometimes. I think I harbour some pent up Raptor bias or something.
by garrettelliott on Feb 21, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
He's a badass.
Been a fan since the Knick era.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Batum wears #88
That in itself is very good.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
I like to see the Jazz lose
they whip Piston ass, no matter the roster, it seems.
and I love Portland.
It’s a good game so far.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
I thought Roy was going to shut ’er down for a while?
by garrettelliott on Feb 21, 2010 10:17 PM CST reply actions
He was out for a brief bit.
He’s pretty great too. I’ve seen him play hard when hurt.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Ouch. Deron totally should have dropped that one off to the trailer.
by garrettelliott on Feb 21, 2010 10:21 PM CST reply actions
with cupcakes like the Kings, Clippers and Warriors on tap in the four games
First instinct for me is definitely “cupcake” but the West Coast has eaten the Pistons alive this season – off-hand I think we’re winless. Either they’re due for a win or doomed.
Sadly, when I looked at the schedule before tonight’s game, through some pessimistic glasses, I thought the Pistons had a legit shot at reaching 10+ straight losses again.
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Wait what? Winless against the West Coast? Didn’t we beat San Antonio not 24 hours ago? And I know we beat Denver as well as GSW in Detroit. I think you meant winless on the road, in which case, I’m not sure what our record is but I thought our first West Coast road trip netted us one road win? Maybe not.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Also, a rec for finding a photo of Stuckey yelling, “HEY!!!!” as he drives. It’s one thing to hear it every play, but another to have it immortalized in photo format.
by garrettelliott on Feb 21, 2010 10:27 PM CST reply actions
He kind of reminds me of a...
there…
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by Packey on Feb 21, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Someone needs to put laser guns on his back.
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by garrettelliott on Feb 21, 2010 10:45 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
recs all around!
Aminu, here we come!!11
by Mike Payne on Feb 21, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Tyrodnesaurus Rex
Needs to make it on the short list of best 2010 DBB comments. Should we start a thread yet? Or is it way too soon?
Hey give me a little head nod at least when you accept your award?
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Oh My Fucking Jod.
“The Counterproductive Over-Spinner Award of the Century” goes to….. Keith Langlois!!!!
The San Antonio Spurs probably left The Palace feeling a little queasy Sunday night – and it wasn’t all because they lost 109-101 in overtime and gave back a little more ground in the compacted Western Conference playoff race. Nor was it all being sick of the road, the Spurs wrapping up their annual Rodeo Trip, this one an agonizing eight-gamer.
No, the Spurs’ discomfort had more to do with looking at the Pistons, remembering the incredibly high level of basketball they engaged in with them five years ago in an epic seven-game NBA Finals and facing the grim reality that time eventually overtakes everyone – that the rebuilding the Pistons have already undertaken is staring San Antonio square in the race [sic?].
…
None of which is a referendum on Spurs management’s decision to hang on and hope for the best. Joe D probably would have done likewise if his core included Duncan.
But the pain the Pistons have experienced these last two seasons is coming to the Spurs, sooner or later.
The Spurs have one of the absolute best salary situations in the entire league. They have exactly two players with guaranteed contracts through 2011 (Duncan and Dice), and no players are signed after that. If the new CBA is as pro-ownership as everyone expects it to be, they are going to be in a far better position than almost any other team to immediately reap the benefits.
Compare that to Jod’s handiwork:
The Pistons already have over $35m guaranteed to Rip/Gordon/CV/Max through 2013…
by Gabe F-B on Feb 21, 2010 10:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Langlois's observations are true in one sense only.
When Tim Duncan retires, the Spurs are going to suck. But they’re near-contenders until that happens. Otherwise there’s no comparison between JOD’s rebuilding efforts and what will eventually happen to the Spurs.
Meh...
I don’t know that the Spurs will suck once Duncan retires…sure Duncan was a huge pick, but I think people had the same expectation after the admiral retired, and that certainly didn’t happen…
They’ve got cap flexibility in the long-term, and a helluva under-sized power forward in DaJuan Blair, plus ownership/management that obviously understands how to succeed in the NBA (in a small market city none-the-less).
I think that the only chance Duncan has of sending this team into mediocrity when he retires is if the decision to retire forces Tony Parker to head out of San Antonio as well.
Oh and because I didn’t get to say it DURING the game, I’ll say it now, “FUCK YOU MANU GINOBLI YOU GONZO-NOSE UGLY MOTHERFUCKER. GO FLOP ON A BOAT SOMEWHERE LIKE THE FISH OUTTA WATER THAT YOU ARE!”
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Feb 22, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
for the Ginobli rant
Check out Detroit4Lyfe
by handsomerob1 on Feb 22, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Keith Languid
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Everything Langlois writes is appalling
He’s unbelievable. He must think he has the dumbest readers in the world, trying to get away with stuff like this.
Remember when he was a hack columnist for the Oakland Press? His signature move was to get hysterical in insulting all the Detroit teams and players, second-guessing and Monday-morning-quarterbacking and acting as though he himself could have thrown the ball better, run the ball better, made better substitution patterns. He was paid to hate, and though his bile was in almost every case unjustified and mean, it was clear that he loved his job and meant every word. I disliked him intensely.
Then he got canned by the Oakland Press and somehow wormed his way to the Pistons. Now he is on the opposite side, still equally devoid of talent but now defending idiotic management decisions against commonsense criticism.
Were Langlois still with the Oakland Press, Dumars’s management moves would by now have made him apoplectic. He’d break his keyboard, he’d be typing so hard. Instead he writes things he doesn’t believe and kisses Dumars’s rear end and acts like the fans are stupid and can’t see the truth for themselves. He’s a hack lying sellout jerk.
by Bill Higgins on Feb 21, 2010 11:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Analysis Keith!

"Ford! You're turning into a Penguin! Stop it!"
-Arthur Dent
by Thom_not_Tom on Feb 22, 2010 1:49 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
What do y'all think of Krylyo Fesenko?
He’s a little chunky, but mobile for a guy his size. He’s only 23. Worth a partial MLE?
Call me crazy
but I still think Marcus Camby is worth looking at.
If he hated the Portland deal though, I doubt he would like signing or being shipped to Detroit.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
I would have liked to see
McDyess start tonight, if nothing else to get the intro from Mason. Probably not the first thing in Popp’s mind, but Dyess would have gotten a pretty warm welcome IMO
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He didn't start, but Mason still introduced him separately
He got a big standing ovation:
Antonio McDyess received a loud ovation from the Palace crowd when he was introduced before the San Antonio starters prior to the game. McDyess played the last five seasons for Detroit before signing with San Antonio in the offseason.
"I didn’t expect a standing ovation. That was a very nice moment for me," McDyess said. "I was hoping no one was looking at my face, because I was getting quite emotional. I played some great basketball here, and my heart still belongs to these fans."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/recap;ylt=AhCOYbiT4D9dd9AUNR.jFnazYd4?gid=2010022108
Love McDyess. He’s the best. What a great guy.
by Bill Higgins on Feb 22, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions
Need4Sheed has video of the introduction
She’s kind of right in that it’s somewhat rudely cut off, but it was kind of awkward because he wasn’t a starter
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OT: From an article on SLAM, check out this quote from our favourite Darko:
Quote of the night had to be this gem from the out of shape Darko Milicic – "I was trying to focus on breathing. I was just focusing on breathing so I didn’t die."
The Darko era in Minnesota has begun! gong sound
If nothing else, Darko will always bring some form of entertainment.
The ripped jersey, the ref rant, it is all hilarious.
I’d like to see Dwyer explain this one
by bearded thundar on Feb 22, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions
Neither does Darko
He wants to go back to Europe, so that he can the focus of his team’s offense.
In all fairness to Joe, he had the complete appearance of an NBA ready player. The skills and athleticism were there (Ford called him Bill Russel with offense), but the fact that he thinks he should the offense should be run through him is very telling about his mental capacity. In a sense, its the samething of DeJuan vs DaJuan. DaJuan has all the physical tools but doesn’t seem to do much with them (the few times I’ve seen him on the court, he’s just stood around, except for that Denver game). DeJuan, on the other hand, like Dyess has been ended the short end of the stick when it comes to his knees, but has the mental aspect completely down.
by bearded thundar on Feb 22, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
can you imagine san antonio sans antonio? not a pretty picture.
by OtherDrew on Feb 22, 2010 11:52 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Clever pun
When he signed there, I thought it was quite appropriate, actually, given that “san” means “saint.”
If there were such a thing as basketball saints, I would think Antonio would have to b e one.
The game last night...
… was some vintage 2004/5 blood-on-the-floor shit. I was kind of routing for San Antonio this year so Mciddy can get his ringbling, but this game reminded me of why I hated them once upon a time.
But mostly just Ginobli.
I bet Stern would have been having heart palpitations if he had been watching; which of course he was not.
MAN STYLE BB FTW.
by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 22, 2010 1:58 PM CST reply actions
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