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The Silver Lining Express Arrives in Denver

Detroit Pistons at Denver Nuggets, Feb 26, 2010 9:00 PM EST


Game Tips at 10:30 pm ET

Detroit Pistons: 21-36 (7-20 road)
Denver Nuggets: 38-19 (24-5 home)

Oppo Research

My wife is a Green Bay Packers fan.  I also hate the Vikings and their crappy, bandwagon-cruising fanbase.  As such, I'm kind of a Packer fan by proxy.

Each year, then, there comes a point, when the Lions are theoretically, if not mathematically, eliminated from the playoffs, at which I make a sort of conversion.  At this point, the Packers represent the best hope for my family's happiness.  In short, when the Lions play the Packers, I go Pack, at least passively.

Which brings me to Denver.  After Joe D. traded away our best player for a very hostile bag of beans, I sorta adopted the Nuggets as my Packers.  Seemed like a safe move, what with them all the way over in the Western Conference.  It's not like they are the Spurs or Lakers.  Besides, Denver deserves a shot at the gold.   

So what of tonight? A Piston win would be a moral victory, at best, and reduce their draft standing, at worst.  Meanwhile, the Nuggets are battling to preserve the two seed.  I won't say it, but you know what I'm getting at...

Keys for Detroit

Watch Spellcheck-- The Pistons have the size to throw at Chauncey Billups, and the agility to man up on Carmelo.  But Afflalo has quietly become a devastatingly efficient three-point shooter.  All it takes is for him to knock down three, and Denver's odds of winning elevate substantially.  

Make free throws --  Seriously, what the hell happened on Wednesday?

Keep it up - Kind of a dumb key to winning, but relevant at high altitudes.  Detroit is essentially on a three game winning streak heading into this one (if free throws average out, the Pistons run away with it).  I could easily see Detroit holding a nice lead for three quarters and giving it up.  

Question of the Game

What's up with the Ben Gordon goose eggs? He has had one or fewer field goals in seven games this season.  That's ridiculous.

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“These reunion games are always special sad” -Georgie Boy Blaha

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:02 PM EST reply actions  

Tragic man. Fucking tragic.

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

The Iverson for Billups trade makes me wanna call Earl

every time I think about it

Gamethreads can only help with the sickness

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus Jonas is starting...

and I know you consider him delicious.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

How are the McNuggets

never wearing the Skyline joints… it seems like a good idea.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

Not the best start

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

Good rebound by Stuck

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

They're both in beastmode right now

guess we’ll find out.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell yeah Ben!

Still got some life in those legs.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:16 PM EST reply actions  

Snowflake just got destroyed.

by DBB Diablo on Feb 26, 2010 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

I hate that lean in foul call.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

Especially

when he lead with his elbow into ypur man’s beautiful face.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

If he mutilates it somehow...

there will be blood.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice move JJ!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

2 fouls in Jerebko.

An I seen a kid in a denver-colored pistons shirt w/Viking Helmet.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

Denver's free food give-away is much better than ours

Score a hundred, get free tacos. That would be sweet. Screw curly fries.

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

Tacos over Curly fries.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Taco Bell>Arby's

As Ralph Wiggum would say, “I’m so hungry I could eat Arbys.”

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That wasn't Ralph..

That was either Sherry or Terry. How pathetic is that I know that?

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Even the fire won’t eat Butterfingers.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You are correct sir.

I bow to your Simpsons knowledge.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That and their free food level is much easier to reach

We never get triple doubles. Fucking cheap-ass Arbys.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Good decision to leave the Swede in there

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah you gotta.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m so hungry I could eat Arbys.

 Very much rec’d for that MFC

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

WTF

How did Ben score that?

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

Got dammit I love that Swede!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

Veteran move by Chauncey

But that smacking your arms in to a defenders hand foul is bullshit.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

Poor fast break by Tay

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

A rather ugly back & forth

until that shot by Hamilton

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

They're letting us get away with some physical D.

I’m sure that’ll randomly change as we fall apart in the third.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Is it just me

or is our best (and possibly only) shot at slowing Melo is putting JJ on him? Tay’s too weak and Charlie is too slow. It would screw up our rotation quite a bit though.

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

And

give JJ about 58 fouls for the night. Otherwise I love it. Tay has proven tonight he doesn’t stand a chance of staying in front Melo, and Chunky is a lost cause.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Do we all know

About the Bernstein advantage?

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions  

I'm almost glad I have the Denver feed

so I don’t have to hear about the Bernstein advantage. At least I get Greg Kelser in the 2nd quarter.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Stuckey is all over the place

Playing real well right now

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, solid first quarter.

And that’s all I have to say about that.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

YEAH MAX

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

Rocky mountain babies eaten!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

True, but at least it’s less disgusting than eating Rocky Mountain oysters.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Watching Nuggets announcers online tonight..

And they are going to switch announcers during the second quarter. No Blaha, but at least I get Greg Kelser.

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

Quiet night tonight

Somehow I don’t think we’re going to hit 700 posts like the Clips game.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

I made it

Ready to throw fity or so turds against the wall.

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Daye sighting!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

Daye!

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

Maxiel

Killing them on the offensive boards.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

Joey Graham owning?

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Joey Graham

unsung hero already :(

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

NICE FLAT TOP

Spider

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Hey Guess What?

Charlie just launched a three! Who’d thunk it?

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Chunky Charlie!

You play defense like old people fuck!

And work on that shot selection if you don’t mind.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Second game in a row

And the Afflallo fire sale is a hot topic

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

The more he plays, the better he gets,

and the more I regret dumping him so we could sign Wontcox. Ouch.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

WTFalo

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I look at it this way.

This season, would you rather have AA for 1.5 million or BG for 10 million?
I’ll take AA thank you very much.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Sadpanda you're making me sad.

AA would pretty much fill our glaring need for a spot up shooter, while Gordon is a turnover machine who can’t seem to shoot.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Spreading misery is my gift to the world.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya know Chunky

hanging out at the three point line you shouldn’t be getting beat back on D.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

Greg said...

“Denver has a lot of Detroit flavor in Detroit, you have AD, Stacey Augmon, AA, Chauncey..etc”

He forgot to mention Carmello.

by DBB Diablo on Feb 26, 2010 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

ugh Greg

also just said Stuckey is a 6’3 Carmelo…

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Nom nom nom

thanks Max!

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Chauncey is slimmer?

Anyone else see it?

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

he's been this way since last summer

He said he made a commitment to speed and agility after getting torched by Rondo in the playoffs. I almost couldn’t recognize him at the start of the season, especially since his shoulders aren’t nearly as massive

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That's just cheating

Graham basically just walked up to the rim

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

as in I’m really feeling ripped off at our performance, not actually breaking rules

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

This is gonna be a blowout, I can feel it.

Go lottery!

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

"Joey Grahm has turned this game around!"

I’ll take words I’d never thought I’d hear for $1000 Alex.

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

What is only happens against the Pistons?

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks Ben

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

Nice charge

Taken by Big Ben

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

NBA commercials suck

They’re almost as bad as the Arby’s deal

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

That autotune ad is ridiculous

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

its like a bad djsteveporter remix

they should just hire djsteveporter to do the real deal.

I will remind you all of the works of Mr. Porter.

I give you, press hop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOxUAntx8I

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I love it

AI might just be a better press hopper than basketball player now

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Mr. Porter is also a dude in D12

ghostproduces for Dr. Dre.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep it's another cat. Kon Artis

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I really hate these NBA commercials

Annoying!

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

I'm watching online

and I’m getting all sorts of soccer commercials in Arabic. I’m not sure which would be worse.

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That's just nasty.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Almost double-triple-double

Wilt is the only player in NBA history have done that. 19 points, 17 assists, 16 rebounds is probably the closest any one else has gotten in decades. My bet is the Dream was the last to put up those numbers (I don’t think Tim Duncan would get all the assists considering he’s always had two playmakers on his team).

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

What a shock

The Denver announcer thinks it was a good idea to trade Chauncey.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

WTF?

Isn’t that goal tending to grab the rim?

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

but he needs to shoot

that way he can prove he has trade value to be shipped off to a contender

/wishinghewasmovedlastweek

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll be an expiring contract next year.

So I’m cool with him not getting traded. His value will be much higher next season.

I’m not cool with him shooting 1-8 in the first half. Ugh.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Stuck half way to curly fries

If we get those curly fries, I could care less how badly we lose

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I would still like to see a win

but curley fries are always a good alternative.

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't care much about the fries

I just want to see the reaction on the manager’s face when I bring in the boxscore.

I’m expecting it to be along the lines of WTF? Shit I didn’t know we did that. Well, you get points for creativity, haven’t seen this con before. Here’s a free drink as a consolation prize

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have the drink.

Then I’d just sit in there for like 2 hours getting refills.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a bad idea....

But I do love me some curly fries. Tough choice.

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

Arbys sucks but if Stuckey gets a triple double I will get my free fries out of principle.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear if it ever happens

I will visit every Arby’s within 20 miles- twice- just out of principle.

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a decent first half by us

I’d like to see better shot selection on offense. Defensively they need to stop getting beat off the dribble. Also, don’t put Chunky on anybody. His defense is very not good.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

I thought he had a couple good defensive possessions and a couple bad ones.

He wasn’t completely bad defensively. Unfortunately, he did nothing offensively so…

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Stuckey needs to operate more

He’s the only effective Piston right now and he’s torched Chauncey earlier this year.

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

We also need to push the tempo more.

First quarter, ran a lot.
Second quarter, played in the half-court.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate the +/-

But Stuck is the worst of our starters according to that stat

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Put chunky on the goddamn bench

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That acura commercial

Might be just as bad as the NBA commercials. They gave me no reason as to why that car is worth anything. I guess their logic is= hot girlz laik da importz

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty lady like car!

Me like car too! Hurrr…

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

She fine as a mothafucka though

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Fine indeed

I guess their direction was class, because that girl was no fuckdoll

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

reminds me a lot of Kelly from Mass Effect 2

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell yeah they do!

My fiance saw my base model Mazda and was all over that. Not too close though because I hadn’t washed it in a few months.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Vanilla Ice!

Ice Ice baby

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

Um... sure.....

I think I missed the reference there

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He's performing half time

Not sure why though, he’s got only one decent song and that’s way overplayed

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah...

if only … could be said in less characters.

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I have figured out why CV is so Chunky

He must be stealin all da curly fryz!

That’s why we don’t get any free ones! Damn you Chunky!

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

I think I'm going to do something on what the hell happened to our three point shooting.

I mean, career 36.8% Tayshaun Prince is shooting 30.0% for the season.
Rip’s career? 34.3%. Rip this year? 27.0%.
And everyone knows about Gordon’s struggles.
DaJuan Summers is our best three point shooter at 38.1%.

So why exactly have these players gotten so much worse at shooting the three ball?

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

Stuckey

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a joke.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

Stuckey is the last of the Pistons’ current problems. He’s become a solid NBA player. May not become a star, which could be a big problem in the future, but he is certainly not the cause of the epic losing

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not talking about losing.

Right now I could care less. I want to know why these guys suddenly stopped shooting the three ball at a decent rate.

Right now, Charlie V is probably our best three point shooter. How scary is that?

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

True that

Some people seem to hate him for not being great. But he is still a good player. Just respect him for what he is, not for what we want him to be.

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it their offensive sets? Guys just not getting in comfortable spots, or able to get open?

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It's something I'm going to start watching more often.

Like 5 games in a row, record what type of threes they’re taking and whatnot.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Wide open ones.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I get the feeling Q doesn’t know how to properly utilize some of these guys. I mean look at BG. DelNegro can find a role for him and Q can’t? I think it’s a matter of getting familiar with the players, but I’m afraid it won’t happen until next year.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Gordon is definitely better than he's playing

The last two months, however, Gordon is only averaging 9 shots a game. Gordon needs to take more than that get a rhythm and get involved more.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

His minutes are limited by his effectiveness,

and his effectiveness is limited by his minutes. Vicious circle. They should just give him 30-40 minutes every couple of games so he can get cooking. Just keep the ball out of his hands unless he’s actually shooting the ball. He needs a true distributor next to him to be effective.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

He played next to Rose

Who was a “true distributor” and still was effective.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Rose is a better distributor than our current crop of PGs. Furthermore, I think Heinrich played the bulk of the minutes next to Gordon.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Stuckey is incredibly inefficient, and that's my biggest knock against him.

I don’t care if he has a three point shot, but he really needs to finish better to become a good player.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It's circular

Lack of 3 point shooting hurts Stuckey. Lack of Stuckey’s consistency allows teams to spread the floor.

One has to get better to improve the other, and 3 point shooting should improve now that guys seem to have recovered

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Bill Bonds eyes are scary

and he seems to have no upper teeth

Mort Crim is much more pleasantly grandfatherly looking

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Cuz Bill Bonds

is really a zombie. A really drunk zombie.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

a washed up drunkard retired ass newsanchorman zombie

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Threesome for Ben!

I mean, 3 point opportunity.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

swish!

best FT shooter ever

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Ben Wallace

I SALUTE YOU

#6

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Adrian Dantley also dressing like Robert Goulet

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Uh,

who doesn’t dress like Robert Goulet?

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Saturday night

is tomorrow night.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That was clean!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:32 PM EST reply actions  

the sad thing is,

it was.

normally I am a quite person but I think I woke the neighbors.

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Just explain

That the Swede got screwed on a foul call. If they don’t understand then you need better neighbors.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Enough zone already!

I’m really getting annoyed that Qstar is employing a zone the entire game. Zones should be used sparingly or against teams like GS/Phoenix that get a lot of penetration. Denver has too many good 3 point shooters to use a zone full time. Especially Chauncey, Stuck can easily guard him one on one but he can’t recover on the zone rotations

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Blaha thinks Stuckey will lead us to the promised land of small box of curly fries

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

I hope he does for you guys

But he really needs to fix his second half slumps

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

FLIP HOOK

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Ben vs Nene

Nene going ’Nuts"
or Nut

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 10:37 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Ben has twice the balls of Nene

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Twice the Swagger too

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice feed from Big Ben to Stuckey! And he made the lay-up!

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

lol same play 3 times down the court

lets see if they go for a 4th.

btw result. 2/3 lets make it 3/4.

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Carmelo is a really nice mid-range shooter. More guys should master the mid-range game.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

rip

normally has a really nice mid-range game. But hasn’t been on target this season.

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I was a fan

about 20 tattoos ago. He’s gone from underrated to overrated really quickly. His schtick is real old.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He looks like a nincompoop

he plays well though.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn Rip. Take it strong to the hole. That was actually my favourite part of Afflalo’s game last year — he ALWAYS took the ball straight at the rim and really finished breaks well.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

tech on a waterboy

just happened this year. In college of course.

Guy got fired on the spot.

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait...

They have sports in college? I had no idea

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Your mom goes to college

-Kip Dynamite

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

whaaaa?

how’d that happen?

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Blaha

With the “Ball don’t lie”
I miss that.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

Is it me, or does Carmelo always look out of shape? Kind of like Paul Pierce, yet they’re both so effective.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

I don't care

that they turn it over. I’m just glad they want to share the ball.

by Taiwanese Tora on Feb 26, 2010 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck

JJ has 5 fouls.

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

Now Daye is on Melo. The announcers just laughed, saying Melo should eat him up. Uh oh.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

He can really disrupt things with his length. As long as Carmelo fails to post him up, he can stick.

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by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

man

that kid has a sweet stroke.

very long defensivly, If that wasn’t apparent already.

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I say the same thing every time he shoots

I wouldn’t mind watching him shoot 20 times a game

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

JR Smith

I’m convinced he could make a normal jumper from half court look effort less

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

“Stuckey does not make a shot unless someone’s in his face,” said the commentator. Sometimes he doesn’t make those, either. :|

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

“start driving ‘melo, they’ll call it if you yell”

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Dayeshaun!!!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

All Daye!

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck yeah.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

ALL DAMN DAYE

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:50 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

See, this is what Kuester needs to do more of.

No mass substitutions. You don’t need 4 bench players in the game at the same time. Bring in two (Daye and Villanueva) while keeping in 3. Then when you get ready to move Stuckey and Rip to the bench, bring back at least one starter.

We don’t need all 5 bench players at the same time.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

Let me guess.

We’re going to start the 4th with Bynum/Gordon/Daye or Prince/Villanueva/Maxiell. At which point they make a run us because they’re not stupid enough to put their entire bench in to start the 4th.

Let’s see.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Denver has been crap offensively this quarter and yet we are only up 3. Anyone else a little discouraged?

by bugman222 on Feb 26, 2010 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

I like Daye and hope he gets more minutes the rest of the year.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

Weird — JR Smith stands half a foot behind the free throw line to shoot them. I think T-Mac used to do that, too.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

That's one shot I don't miss

Pullup 3

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by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

Maxy!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

That was key right there.

Charlie, I know you’re there- but are you watching?

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 10:58 PM EST reply actions  

Charlie V

also spells

ARCH EVIL

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by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

EVIL is some shit

that he is sorely lacking.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ben Gordon setting the record for

Most times getting hit the face while getting called for a foul.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

BG fouls

with his face

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

Whoa Max with the little fade away! Tough shot!

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, shit!

Maxy with the jumper!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

yes, 4

I do not remember them

by Wheaties on Feb 26, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ben Gordon in 14 less minutes

also 4 misses, 2 more turnovers, half the points, and 10x the price

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

NO MORE BIRDMAN DUNKS.

cmon guys

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

No more zone

I’m tired of wide open 3s.

I missed the second half up until that Afflalo shot, but seriously I don’t ever recall dribble penetration being an issue

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t look it up, but Kevin Harlan said Afflalo was 6th in the entire league for 3 point shooting this year. That’s crazy.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

Crazy

That we traded him for a second round pick?

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

What it a 2nd rounder?

I’ve never heard what exactly we got.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Wontcox

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Smooth move, Dumars

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, basically

We used the capspace on a deadspace

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

He was one of faves along with Chauncey.

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Never knew Chauncey was a father figure

I always knew the two were close, but I didn’t realize just how much he must have done for Stuck

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

What the hell Will?

how do you just fucking watch the ball roll out of bounds

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Just wondering

Why is our bench still out there half way through the fourth?

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

We’re trying to help Denver’s playoff positioning while trying to secure a decent spot in the draft?

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Kuester is currying with us.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously Q?

You let our favorite turnover machine run the offense?

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Maxy

Is kicking ass tonight

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

'Melo just threw his gum into the crowd

Real mature

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

nah

he was tossin’ it to Birdman. He was a hungry fella.

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Added bonus of being Denver fan

Not only do they get free tacos, but also 1 lucky fan gets a complimentary piece of gum! On the downside, I hear he’s going to have to pay extra taxes for the spit

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Rip with the liver punch defense.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

Bird-flu-man?

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll say.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's adorable.

I want him to babysit my future kids.

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Drugs are bad

M’Kay?

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really

He doesn’t have key turnovers late in the fourth

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

then go with someone else… I’d rather see Daye right now

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by Packey on Feb 26, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Kue wants to win the game.

Figures Tayshaun is the best guy to have in.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Rip!!!

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:18 PM EST reply actions  

That looked like a foul when Stuckey tried to take Chauncey down low a few plays ago. I was so ready to make a smarmy, “The student has become the teacher,” comment but alas, it wasn’t meant to be.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

Stuckey doesnt get that call

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

What a bullshit call!

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, acting by JR. He hooked his arm under Stuckey.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

Reffing

getting a little iffy here.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

BALL DON'T LIE

you know it must be true when you not only hear Blaha saying it, but some fans in the background

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

Fuck Jeff Bridges

J.R. Smith for the oscar.

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He sure did.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Then throws a hissyfit when he doesn't get the call

instead of getting back on D. Sign of a disciplined team.

by MFCasey on Feb 26, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Works great for Lebron

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I’d throw a hissy fit after seeing every other player in the league get those calls all season.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Stuckey just got punched in the face on that spin move?

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

He needs to slip the refs a little more next time

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder

if Rodney would get more calls if he would stop shouting “hey!” every time he got fouled

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He needs to be more selective with his screams

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

What the hell is with that white dude

With the 2 two Indian chicks? He just seems so out of place in that metro pcs commercial lol

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:24 PM EST reply actions  

Maxy

Is keeping us in it

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

For sure.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He's garbage tonight.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn you, Billups

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

I'm on-board so far.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd never trust Maxiell as long as I live.

This the first month in the past two seasons he’s been worth a damn.

At the very least, Villanueva has a couple months out of the season.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear you.

Villanueva just talks about what he’s going to do, and then does zero.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Villanueva was a big reason why we started 11-12

Especially with no Rip and Prince, and for part of it no Gordon.

Unfortunately it didn’t last.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

He disappeared.

Blame the injuries, maybe. I don’t know.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Works well for Bynum

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe you mean Andrew, not will

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I forgot...

you speak no ill of will.

I ask forgiveness.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

?

I’ve been a proponent of giving Stuckey more pt and getting Will the hell off the floor. I just assumed Bynum because he’s been injured every other week for the past 3 years

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

*andrew

doesn’t work to call him Bynum when they’re both Bynum.

Do’oh

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Not necesarily directed at you

simply at the fact that Pistons fans, in general, choose who gets the injury excuse and who doesn’t.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Willie Bynumite?

He’ll be back to blaze shit up.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll gladly accept

Two cheeseburgers and a dvd of Dave Chappelle’s greatest hits

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather move Rip.

Worse contract, older, and not as good.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather move both.

Honest.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Just get over it

Rip is a better player. Gordon’s been a detriment to the team tonight, especially in the fourth quarter

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Gordon’s horrible play is such an anomaly, though. Everyone knows he’s not that bad, but for some reason he’s playing that poorly. I can only assume he’ll get back to form eventually, because he’s got some crazy skills.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is that Gordon isn't allowed any room for error right now.

Even when he’s feeling it and his shot is falling, he still can’t seem to get any more than 8-10 shots a night. We need to get him more involved.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Rip is better

BG takes bad shots and is a shitty defender

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by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Gordon is more talented.

But Rip overall is just smarter and more consistent.

by DBB Diablo on Feb 26, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Rip is proven

I would rather have one more season of good Rip followed by 2 more of average Rip than any more of Gordon and his porous D and sketchy O.

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by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Especially since Rip doesn’t need explosiveness to effective, where as Gordon has shown he really needs to be able to get to the rim to get into rhythm

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Rip's O has generally been worse this season.

And he turns the ball over more than Gordon as well.

And like I said, neither of them are good defenders

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't watched many games this year

But in the past, Rip has been a very, very good defender. You keep making declarative statements, but don’t have evidence or logic to back it up.

by Colin M on Feb 26, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

In terms of defensive ratings

Both Hamilton and Gordon our the worst defenders on our team.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope, it is true.

Gordon’s defensive rating: 113
Hamilton’s defensive rating: 113

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Just going off my observations not any stats

But from watching this season (and I understand that it is a small sample size for Gordon) compared to seasons past, Rip is a far more capable defender within our system.

Gordon is new however so without a doubt he will improve, I just think as of right now, Gordon turns his head more and gets lost on screens more than Rip.

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortunately

Rip allows players to regularly blow by him, at which point he just reaches around and fouls him. Rip’s getting slower and losing his ability to stay in front out his defender. This is based on my observations.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

So does Will Bynum

I don’t see you getting on his balls.

And eitherway, it’s not much better in Gordon’s best case where they just shoot over him (usually they can walk around him)

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't like Will Bynum that much either

But this is the home of MFWB so I can’t say much.

Honestly, I don’t really like any of our guards, but Gordon is probably the only one I’d say I like.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you could probably make a case for all of our players (except for Big Ben) sucking at defense. This season, much like last, has shown some serious regression in the skill department.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, Kuester talks about how Kwame fails to play defense the way he wants

But none of the guys seems to fully comprehend what is what he wants.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Truth.

So far Kuester and Dumars have put together a team where like two fuckin’ guys defend.

Not enough

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Defensive stats blow

Also, if they’re equal defenders, why is Gordon better?
And why is Rip’s contract worse?

by Colin M on Feb 26, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You’ll definitely be out numbered on this one. Rip has always been at least an average defender, if not slightly above average only because of his stamina and long finger nails. He’s definitely not our worst.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Players can degenerate

Rip is getting older.
He’s been injured more often than ever.

He’s playing great right now (although tonight wasn’t very good) but it’s not surprising that his D is slipping. Prince isn’t where he once was, either.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Rip doesn't need explosiveness

His game is purely built around outworking his opponent; it’ll last as long as he can still run.

Also defense is primarily about effort, followed by size. Rip has Gordon beat in both those respects

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I can completely see where you are coming from

But wasn’t that the reason we moved Chauncey? A pre-emptive strike against his inevitable decline that has in one fell swoop started our plummet to the bottom of the EC.

I still have some bitterness regarding that move. I was on record as saying (as best my memory serves) we should have traded Rip rather than Chauncey.

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I hate about the Rip extension

I want us to get younger, to push the ball more, yet we extend him.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

My only problem with the Chauncey trade was that we kept the other vets.

They should have been disposed as a whole and start anew. If Joe wanted to keep veteran presence, then he got who to keep backwards.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe made the wrong move for sure

Sheed should have gone. Rip too if he netted us something really decent (Boozer). The rest still had plenty of life and we could have rebuilt on the fly rather than crashing and burning with MCIAFI.

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Pistonpowered offers some reasoning

Feldman said that the main reason for trading Sheed is that the Pistons would have gotten pennies on the dollar due to his temper and potential chemistry disruption. No contender would have given up more than pennies on the dollar, and no team in their right mind would want to build around him.

Sheed is a guy you trade for, not a guy you want to trade

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I was ok with letting Sheed expiring

As I would have been fine with letting Rip expire this season. But right now this is a economically tied down mediocre team attempting to play the style of a team long gone, with a staff not fit for it.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

This is where Dumars and Kuester have failed.

Dumars built a team that, while not good defensively and inconsistent, it could have been a fun run-and-gun style team. A Phoenix-Lite if you will. Not completely devoid of defense like GSW or Phoenix but definitely not playing for it.

And yet, still, half-court, plodding style. Why? Why? Why?

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 27, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Completely agree

And right now there seems to be a battle for the team’s soul.

You can see it in comments like Stuckey’s “We’re going to run more and you can go fuck yourself if you don’t want to do it” vs. What we’re actually seeing on court (walk the ball up, half-court, slowest pace in the league).

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I blaim Prince

Rip, JJ and Ben have no problem keeping pace and letting Stuckey operate. Prince on the other hand, loves to slow down the offense and kill the shotclock

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

When I think of the 2004 team, I think of a lot of running surprisingly. Even though I’m sure statistics will show they were seriously grinding it out, I remember an awful lot of fast break alley-oop dunks and highlight reel plays based off blocks and steals on the defensive end. I wish we had that.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Bullshit

You are completely biased. Most of us would have agreed with you at the start, but Rip’s play has swayed us, not his “potential” to be great

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Never said more talented

Just a much more effective and consistent player. Gordon’s always been a rollercoaster, that’s why Joe signed him exclusively to come off the bench

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Except he didn't

RealGM reports say that Detroit wants to move Rip by this offseason.

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

God, please, trade Gordon

Joe—trade Gordon, trade Gordon, trade Gordon!

The problem is that no one will ever want him! He has one of the 3 worst contracts in the league.

by Bill Higgins on Feb 27, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

That much I agree

Gordon is much more tradeable than Hamilton for several reasons – but that doesn’t make him the more effective player

by bearded thundar on Feb 27, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Rip hasn’t always been a good defender. Ironically, he became a better defender in the Flip Saunders years.

by DBB Diablo on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep it close guys

then lose, ok?

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

ok they've shown they CAN win it

now its time to lose it for the lottery….

by EllDove on Feb 26, 2010 11:26 PM EST reply actions  

Carmelo drives…….and is fouled.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

Something I will never understand

Why start calling that shit now?

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 26, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Melo

is just so long, strong and down to get the friction on. You can’t really turn him down

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim D

Can explain it all if Stern’s death squads don’t get to him first.

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

while flinging the ball in the general direction of the basket

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sigh

I can’t watch anymore. Higher draft pick here we come!

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

Man, we’re foul happy.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

Good 3 Rodney

he played a good game.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

Intriguing point

I hadn’t noticed that. Usually he gets at least 2 because one official feels bad for him.

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

At least Daye got a bit of burn and made some nice plays.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

True that.

Loved seeing that kid out there, especially since Jerebko was compromised.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

And now theres a Russian dude bouncing on a trampoline to YMCA by the Village People. Nice.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

We're still 3-1 against the guy we shouldn't have traded

Celebrate accordingly.

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Lottery!

I shall celebrate.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

does Rodney's shot seem to have more arc tonight

Or is it just me? It seems that his shot had a bit more lift

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly I didn't pay attention, but the flatness of his shot has always bothered me.

On those contested, fading away, clock winding down he seems to put more arc and he tends to make more of those.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

that's true

he really should pratice more…in the right way

by SHH on Feb 26, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It would really help his 3 point shooting

It’s done wonders for LeBron, he’s become nearly impossible to stop when he simply floats over the crowd and shoots a very high arcing shot

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I never liked Stuckey’s follow-through. It’s almost like both hands are following through or something and it looks weird.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I think it might be an issue of hand size. One advantage guys like Gordon and Chauncey have are their unusually large hands

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Its like a caveman throwing a boulder over his head.

Precisely how Bill Laimbeer used to shoot those threes.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I wish we had some of Laimbeer’s swagger. That was a guy who was not afraid to get punched in the face. We need more of that.

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha! So true. Well, he yells, “Hey!”

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Afflalo classy as ever

Talk about class to still compliment the Pistons’ effort despite the fact they essentially threw him away

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Im sure he would have preffered being the thrid SG in a bottom feeder.

Why the hell would he want to be a starting SG on a contender?

Plus, weren’t there rumors that after the Pistons acquired Gordon, Afflalo’s agent, kindly, asked for a trade? I seem to recall that.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 26, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't hear that

I only heard that he was dumped for a second rounder, not that he asked to be traded

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

But

Is he as classy as blacked out anal with Kelsar and Blaha?

That is the true test.

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 26, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

only

If he gets to make the NEWS

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd do it for a draft pick

and doctor coupons

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny how people consider Rose a pure point guard

33 points, 4 assists.

Huh.

Unbelievable talent no doubt, but not a true point guard

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:53 PM EST reply actions  

Did you see that bullshit that Jason Kidd pulled on Woodson?

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 26, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure who to blaim

Woodson shouldn’t have been on the floor, but Kidd didn’t need to stiff arm him

by bearded thundar on Feb 26, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Soooo

Woodson was on the court (which coaches often are) and Kidd shoved him off of it. The refs had a zebra conference and decided to call Woodson for a technical.

Officiating FTL!

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 27, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

No.

Kidd went looking for it.. and goaded Woodson into a tech.

Fuck that prick Jason Kidd, the wifebeating asshole.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 27, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My wife, who doesn’t know anything about basketball God bless her, always says, “He punched his wife in the face!” when ever Kidd comes on the screen. The NBA might think we’ve forgotten with all of their NBA Cares stuff and promos for Kidd, but we haven’t.

by garrettelliott on Feb 27, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha, I always think that too.

Its like the cake thing with Kwame, some things are just hard to forget.

Oddly I never think “rapist” when I see Kobe.

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 27, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Oddly I never think "rapist" when I see Kobe.

 It’s not odd- I think most have forgotten/ignore his past, due to his play.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 27, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Word.

He is a rapist.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 27, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

So is Chauncey Billups?

Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?

by Kriz on Feb 27, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

there are a million trolls out there who bring up the kobe rape shit on every lakers board

just check out an espn “conversation” on a lakers article. its all foul mouthed uneducated pasty ginger boston fans looking for some fun in between watching snuff films.

by dandresden on Feb 27, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Billups just cheats on his wife.

I never read anything about him raping anyone.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 27, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t look now, but the Raptors are playing some good ball.

/Blaha’d

by garrettelliott on Feb 26, 2010 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

What a ripoff

Denver fans are probably eating their tacos right now, but we STILL GOT NO CURLY FRIES!!!

by bearded thundar on Feb 27, 2010 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Must... Not... Make... Dirty... Joke!

I'm just like a sports reporter, but without the insight or money.

by SadPanda1 on Feb 27, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I know how to get Daye more PT

simply switch jerseys with Tay. No one will even know…

I thought Daye looked like a 6’11" Afflalo today when he was on the floor, then Melo made him look silly.

Where the eff has low-post-better-than-Garnett Charlie gone?

by JoeDip on Feb 27, 2010 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

Either

A) We’re not posting him up as often
B) He doesn’t want to play in the post as often.
C) Both

Probably a little of both, so I’d go with C. But how many Charlie V post-ups were there tonight? 2?

by Terrence J. Lynch on Feb 27, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Come to Detroit, play the post.

Fans will love you.

Simple.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 27, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I remember CV doing two things tonight:

1) Getting blocked under the rim on the inbounds play by the Birdman.
2) Hitting that really weird, really awkward pull-up jumper near the foul line as time was winding down on the clock.

by garrettelliott on Feb 27, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

A Major Moral Victory!!!!

Not only did Villanueva combine for double digits, but in their 42 minutes, they outscored Joey Graham (in his 21 minutes) by a full point! Granted, neither plays a lot of defense, but with offensive production like that—surpassing Joey Graham for only $18 million a year, these signings are looking better and better!

by MrHappyMushroom on Feb 27, 2010 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

was listening to 4th quarter on the way home from work

did we have like 6 turnovers in the final 4 minutes? sure would be nice if we had a point guard who could actually dribble the ball. perhaps we could use a player who could hit clutch shots as well. maybe a player who could play d without fouling on every play in the last 2 minutes. did the nuggets actually score a basket in the last 4 minutes that wasnt a free throw? kinda disgusting and i was just listening to it, i can only imagine what it looked like.

by dandresden on Feb 27, 2010 1:55 AM EST reply actions  

Not fair

to blame Q at this point. Injuries and poor personnel management are out of his cunt-roll.

by MwestBaller on Feb 27, 2010 5:04 AM EST reply actions  

Screw you, Kevin

As a Vikings fan, I am obligated to say that. But my heart’s not in it.

by Birdman84 on Feb 27, 2010 5:34 PM EST reply actions  

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