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Where Chauncey Billups Winning Still Makes Some Pistons Fans Happy: Nuggets 107, Pistons 102

What Happened:

Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony combined for 49 points, but it was Denver's bench beating up on the Pistons' that made the difference.  All four of the Nuggets' reserves were on the positive side and in double-digits for plus/minus, while four of the five bench players for the Pistons were negative-10+ (Will Bynum's negative-nine being the sole exception). Strangely enough, all Pistons starters were in the plus and all Nuggets starters were in the negative for the entire game

Most of the damage occurred in the first four minutes of the 2nd quarter when the Nuggets' bench outscored the Pistons' 15-4.  For the whole quarter, the Pistons shot 7-23 (by my count) with four turnovers, and were outscored 31-20.

A strong effort in the other three quarters (79-76 Pistons - not counting Stuckey's meaningless buzzer beater) was simply not enough to overcome the Western Conference powerhouse that would improve its home record to 25-5 on the season, snap a seven-game losing streak to the Pistons, and earn its fans some tacos (those lucky bastards).  

The Good:

Chauncey Billups had 25 points on just 11 field goal attempts.  Arron Afflalo had 14 points on 5-9 shooting (4-6 from beyond the arc) with four rebounds and two blocks.

Oh, for the current Pistons ... Jason Maxiell was in full space baby-eating mode tonight.  He finished with 16 points on 7-9 shooting, eight rebounds, and a blocked shot in a little over 24 minutes.  That's roughly 24 points, 12 rebounds, and 1.5 blocks per 36 minutes for the big fella. 

The Bad:

For as strong as he's played lately, Tayshaun Prince was equally bad tonight.  He was 3-11 shooting in 36 minutes, although he did have six rebounds, five assists, and three steals.

6-16 shooting and 14 points for the offensively explosive pair of young players we signed in the off-season.  I'm not hopping off their wagon, yet, but I'm currently yawning.  This comment from the game thread speaks ugly, ugly truth.

Alluding to another comment, the final four minutes of the 4th quarter were pretty painful.  Tied at 93 at the 4:01 mark, the Pistons went on to have virtually two shot clock violations (one for real and one shot hurried because it was winding down), two other turnovers, and seven free throws against.  The Nuggets were 3-4 shooting with the only miss being 'Melo's meaningless shot attempt as the shot clock was expiring just before the game clock.

The Scott Hastings Unsung Hero :

Rodney Stuckey had a solid game, until the fourth quarter -- in which he was just 2-5 with a turnover (one of the makes being the aforementioned buzzer beater).  Before the final quarter, though, he had everyone on The Curly Fries Watch with 14 points (on 7-15 shooting), seven rebounds, and six assists. 

The Takeaway: 

Being in the game for almost 48 minutes against a legitimate championship contender, on their court, felt pretty good.  (Although, it felt better before Chauncey mentioned in his post-game interview that the Nuggets didn't get home until around 4:30 AM when the Pistons had a full day to settle in and prepare.  And, oh yeah, remember Kenyon Martin didn't play).  All in all, though, it was a competitive game and entertaining to watch.  I guess that's all we can ask for at this point in the season.

I haven't been very vocal on the notion of tanking for better lottery odds in prior threads, but I'm going to speak my mind now: I absolutely hate the idea of it.  It would make the Pistons completely unbearable to watch for the rest of the season and still brings no guarantees.  Sure the odds go up for some lotto balls to fall in our favor, but then they have to fall the right way and the Pistons have to actually make the right draft pick (and possible moves to supplement it).  In 2003, majority said the right pick at no. 2 was Darko Milicic.  Sure, John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins sound nice and fairly automatic in terms of panning out (while Cole Aldrich, to me, screams a morph of Big Country Bryant Reeves and Eric Montross), but tanking brings no cozier feelings.  Similar to what Matt said, if the Pistons compete for the greater part of the game and still lose then I guess the moral victory is enhanced lotto odds, but I'll never condone tanking or cheer for them to lose.  It smacks of rash desperation -- and from Lions fans I almost expect that at this point, but not from Pistons fans who have been spoiled for the greater part of the last decade.  

Sigh. 

Anyway, the Pistons make the opposite trip the Nuggets just made to take on the Warriors tomorrow night at 10:30 PM EST.  

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We wasted this game........

We dominated on the glass, we had like 15 more shot attempts, and we somehow lose it away!!!! Not good :(

by JC no1 pistons fan on Feb 27, 2010 3:32 AM EST reply actions  

I’m still on the don’t-officially-tank-but-play-the-young-guys-and-see-what-happens bandwagon.

by garrettelliott on Feb 27, 2010 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

and from Lions fans I almost expect that at this point

That hurt.

by DBB Diablo on Feb 27, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

I’m a Lions fan, too. It hurt to type that.

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by Packey on Feb 27, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

If Detroit tanked

Joe Dumars would have a homing beacon on the biggest turd among the lottery picks.

Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.

by sauce1977 on Feb 27, 2010 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

re: Cheering for the Pistons to Lose, Like Lions Fans

It really isn’t appropriate for the Pistons. Considering nothing else but yearly records, the Pistons have earned some level of success, and despite their legendary owner’s death, the success isn’t far removed.

You absolutely get a free pass to root against the Lions. An organization which avoids success like the plague, they squander legendary talents like Barry Sanders, and do bizarre moves, like hire Matt Millen’s assistant. Previously, they gave an extension to Millen, despite world-wide assessments of Millen’s hire being one of the worst failures, all-time, among sports executives. Millen lasted for years after people correctly diagnosed his incompetence. Fans were rewarded with 0-16, a stunning build that took 8 years to achieve. They are in the history books for all the wrong reasons. You NEVER root for that kind of ownership and the impotence it harvests.

Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.

by sauce1977 on Feb 27, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

I'm a Lions fan

I’m a Detroit fan, I’m a Jim Schwartz fan… I’m a Stafford fan, the kid showed some heart vs. Cleveland. I’m a Louis Delmas fan. I like Megatron.

I watch the Lions every year, and try to be positive every season. It’s tough.

1 1/2 of the Pistons floundering is nowhere near enough for me to be really pissed about like I have been w/the Millen era. They’re just not comparable. I doubt the Pistons will ever get as bad as the Lions have been run.

"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.

by Skylar on Feb 27, 2010 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

I'm a tragi-fan

I came over to Detroit to watch the Pistons (they lost every game I watched) and the Lions on Thanksgiving. I still had a great time (heckling drunk Americans is fun) but it gave me a damn good idea of why people seem to have given up.

In a couple of words: Ticket Prices. To put it into some kind of perspective, the seat I was in for the Clips cost me about $200. I think I was about lower middle or something but in what I would think was an average seat. I think it cost me the same to see the Lions play and that was with the full understanding they were shit.

The same seat for an AFL game for my Fremantle Dockers (they are the almost LIons) costs under $50 bucks, and in a Stadium that can seat just over 44,000. I can’t remember my original point but I think it had something to do with tanking and the price of tickets. The Pistons simply cannot afford to tank with ticket prices the way they are, The Palace seems empty as it is they need a good product/show on the floor.

Holy fuck, I have no idea what the hell my point was.

insert aussie stereotype here

by Laughton on Feb 27, 2010 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

At least

no one can accuse you of being a bandwagon, with the teams you support. I’m a Richmond supporter (LA Clippers of AFL) and we’ve only had 2 finals (playoff) appearances in 28 years.
You have to remember that most AFL players aren’t getting paid as much as a NBA rookie because of the smaller market, so they can afford to keep ticket prices down. Shit, I would only pay $200 for a Grand Final ticket if Richmond was playing and that’s not going to happen any time soon. Although I enjoy the NBA, IMO, the AFL is a much better spectacle and will always draw big crowds.
The Pistons do need to tank, this season is over in terms of playoffs, so they need to get the best pick possible in the draft. This will add some excitement and enthusiasm for the supporters. How many people do you think would go to watch a John Wall or DeMarcus Cousins in a Pistons singlet? It would be like when Ben Cousins went to Richmond,memberships went up by 7,000 that year, or Nic Natanui, they are players that will bring spectators through the gates.

by rooneymac on Feb 28, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

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