Yeah! We're on TV! - Pistons @ Cavs
by Kevin Sawyer on Mar 5, 2010 6:30 PM EST
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PrintDetroit Pistons at Cleveland Cavaliers, Mar 5, 2010 7:00 PM EST
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Detroit Pistons: 21-40 (7-23 road)
Cleveland Cavaliers: 48-14 (26-4 home)
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Keys for Detroit
Force LeBron to be a jump shooter -- His all-star game performance, where he nearly gave away the game in a desperate attempt to win the individual MVP award, indicates that he has not yet left behind the "win it all myself mentality".
Attack the inside -- No Shaq, no Big Z, and less Varejao means more opportunities inside. I wouldn't mind seeing big minutes for Jason Maxiell tonight.
Play Daye - Seriously. Come on. This franchise is about the future.
Question of the Game
There are too many to count, but I think it is fair now to wonder whether this team has checked out. The Pistons just got blown out by a Knicks team that had just gotten blown out by the Cavs. That's problematic.
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10:30 tip?
I knew this was a bad game, but didn’t realize the networks hated us so badly.
Sorry
I cut and paste to maintain consistency of formatting, and I always mess that up. There is no very good excuse for it.
I give up... What's up with the clip?
Sure the youtube clip is dramatic, but does is it actually supposed to refer to something about the game? Perhaps that we are falling off a cliff and can’t stop it? Maybe that all our only hope is to be rescued by some small green alien thingy? Is there some greater metaphor I’m missing? Or am I just way over thinking a gratuitous use of embedded video?
Them shits is superfruity
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
What's to hate about Hubie?
He’s a basketball genius.
by DBB Diablo on Mar 5, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Years ago someone made a post in Hubie Brown voice that was awesome. It was spot-on. Wish I could remember who it was and what it said. Maybe I should try that search button?
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
We will hear some LBJ c*cksuckin' tonight.
I hate ESPN.
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 7:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
6 points by Tay already?
That’s, like, more than he’s ever scored against them in a single game.
Aminu, here we come!!11
The guy in the Pistons snuggie
is a great American hero.
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 7:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The guy in the Green Man costume must be ashamed of something...
He’s wearing yellow shorts to cover his niblets.
Yes, preferably in the form of an Irish Car Bomb. Or an Irish “Bus Bomb”… same as a car bomb, but in a pitcher. You need very few of those…
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
If we win tonight, will they also break the record for most Snuggies simultaneously burned in one city?
Not if JJ has anything to say about it
He is going to Rape and Pillage Lebron all second half.
insert aussie stereotype here
Will Bynum gone put his foot in that ass too
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Not to jinx it
But man, everyone is moving well. The defense is rotating (good close-outs on jump shooters,) the ball is moving on offense, guys are stepping into the lane and challenging shots (but keeping their feet planted; both Chaz V & Kwame have had strong shows in he lane.)
This is weird, man.
What's the over under on time it will take for cavs to come back?
I’m guessing 6 minutes left in the third it will be tied
Death to ya'll sword wieldin suckas
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Here is the secret so far to our success
EVERYONE is contributing, even Kwame.
insert aussie stereotype here
Please serve these jerks with a righteous beatdown
Please Will
Please Jonas
Please Rip
Please
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Interesting listening to Hube in the breaks
He says that we have the body language of a team that is down big.
insert aussie stereotype here
We're down a big
actually two, I pour this 40 out for the Center we aint never drafted
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Delonte "The lost and the damned" West?
He cracks me up. Go adopt-a-highway you multiple felon, you
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Best two commentator comments yet:
Mike Breen: “Cleveland fans are absolutely shocked in their snuggies!”
Hubie Brown: “This guy Jerebko has had his hands on SO many balls…”
Aminu, here we come!!11
Is it gay when you put two beer bottles up to your mouth at the same time to the get the last little slurpies?
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
The coz approves
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
by Skylar on Mar 5, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn, Coz… is that a water-proof to 15 meters (deal with the spelling, Canada) Casio??
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Coz if it is
you betta run that shit old man
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
I wonder if fathead would make me one for my bedroom wall
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
This next quarter is key
If we can maintain this lead, we might have a chance at losing by only 20
insert aussie stereotype here
Ben Rapethlesberger
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
NOM NOM NOM
Aminu, here we come!!11
by Mike Payne on Mar 5, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I won't post this image...
But you can click the link. Pretty funny shit.
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Oh hell yeah
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
You worry me TDP.
I don’t even know what to say about that. (What did you type into google to find that?)
I wonder if fathead would make me one for my bedroom wall
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Of course. Wasn’t Roethlesberger one of their spokesmen?
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Way to call it!
We scored 15 points on the nose. Be proud of your self, than be very sad for realizing how much we sucked.
Chris Bosh sent to hospital with stomach pain
That time of month again?
insert aussie stereotype here
He got his report card
“Triple C’s”
Moms gone be mad
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Hmmm
I hope the Bucks make the playoffs, they have a nice team with something I covet greatly.
insert aussie stereotype here
Maybe just airbrushed
on the hood of my car, so everyone can appreciate it in the Metro Detroit Area
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Heather Cox
Sign me up for that broad
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
STUCKEY
MAS FUERTE
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Welcome to the party, pal
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Erin Andrews.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
"With the works"
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Ben Wallace is starting to go gray
After a season like this, I’d look like Ossie Davis
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
by Skylar on Mar 5, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Especially since he reads the boards
might can come and find yo ass
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
replay of game 5 double overtime lebron fest
on nba tv last night so i am enjoying this score let it last another hour please god.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Mar 5, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions
leban was fouled and i am not watching and i
know that just from what you guys are saying
by andyfrombrooklyn on Mar 5, 2010 8:41 PM EST reply actions
Seriously though, I don’t want to see him get hurt. Suprised it hasn’t happened yet, though, just from the way he plays.
I wanna see him all snuggied up at home
wearing his ECF hat (word to JoeDip)
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
i never root for people to get injured except right now
by andyfrombrooklyn on Mar 5, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions
At least Hubie sounds kind of sympathetic to our cause.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Meltdown…………or sweet string music for Tay?
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I wish Robert Traylor was still on the Cavs
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
so i go to the tv
and i see varafuk pushing richard hamilton lebran complaining and then at the free throw line. same old same old.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Mar 5, 2010 8:47 PM EST reply actions
Same as it ever was.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Are you fuckin' shittin' me
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
I'm enroute anyways
Metro Times Blowout
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
should of let me know dude
the ham’s my hood. i was down at the painted lady last night watching some polka cover band or something. i was worried bout stuck until i blacked out after hours of drinking.
Dandresden
I got the weekend wristband obviously, we’ll be back in there tonight. If you have a particular favorite, we’ll meet up to see them. I saw Wolfbait last night and they were insanely great
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
im working tonite, wont be back around til about midnite or so
if i hit up any of the show tonite it will prolly be the human eye show at the painted lady. they will prolly be playing around 12:00-12:30ish. should be pretty packed and rockin. they are a pretty weird band, worth checking out dude.
I can't remember which ones i went to last night.
I was surprised Paychecks doesn’t have any draft beer.
I have heard great stories about that place, but before our era.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
I'm sayin'
Heather Cox can get it
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Seizure
wow, this is horrible
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2008/11/10/rodney-stuckey-day-to-day-with-dizziness/
Aminu, here we come!!11
Think some good thoughts for Stuck, everybody
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Long intermission
makes me even more worried.
i googled
“rodney stuckey seizure” to see if he had any history of it, or anyone mentioned it in the past. wikipedia showed up as a result.
Aminu, here we come!!11
Cleveland Clinic
I find it interesting that they took him to the Cleveland Clinic. There is a hospital much closer to the Q. They have a great Neurological department… so maybe the initial reports of a seizure are correct. Just speculating though.
Fuck this stupid game
I gotta go, I’ll hit you guys up later.
"I didn’t even know Elvis was from Memphis, I thought he was from Tennessee." — Drew Gooden.
Just heard.
Celtic fan here, watching Boston/Philly.
What the? He okay? Any news? Any place to get updates? This is rather sick.
Hope he gets well :(
Feel for ya guys.
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
thanks Kiorrik,
Hopefully he’ll be alright, but thanks for visiting and sharing some love.
Aminu, here we come!!11
Bit of a crappy reason to sign up to your blog for though =/
I’ll be around. Lively game-threads are always good. Keep at it, and like I said, let’s hope he’s going to be well.
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Fuck this shit
I hate these refs, I hate this season and I hate this game
insert aussie stereotype here
Team just falling apart now...
I don’t blame ’em.
If his name was Smith and he played the way he plays, they’d talk about him just as much. He’s a pain in the ass.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
This all better mean
the first pick this summer. Course then we might ship Stuck out. ouch.
Good to see Ben Gordon’s posture is still fantastic even though his game is slumping.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
They’re doing a pretty good job of forcing LeBron into jumpers, but he’s starting to hit them.
What doesn’t help is that he’s good at finding the guys under the rim who are wide open.
And Stuckey? Ugh. I hope he’s okay.
Yeah, if LeBron’s jumper keeps improving like it has every season, he’s pretty much a custom NBA Live player with 99’s for every rating.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
That’s why Carmelo is a better scorer (that and the jumpshot)
by bearded thundar on Mar 6, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions
didn't stuckey miss a game earlier for a mediacl condition
something with his heart like palpitations?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Mar 5, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions
Best wishes to Rodney Stuckey from Boston.
I can’t imagine there was, but did he have some kind of preexisting condition they thought was fine?
Terrifying stuff. Hope he comes through fine.
USG
fuck the nba the cavs the refs the announcers the back door deals
that send gasol to the lakers and jamison to the cavs…why do i watch …sheed was so right it is like championship wrestling.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Mar 5, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions
(to be fair, we did one of those back door deals with McDyess, not like it did anyone any good)
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think the way salaries and contracts are structured has really screwed up the NBA. There are teams that are trying to shed contracts and then there are the teams that are competing for championships. It would be nice to have some parity between these teams. As much as i hate D Stern.. that’s what he’s trying to do.
Yeah. The problem is that there are just too many teams. There are the elite few, and everybody else. The haves (who keep getting great deals) and the have nots (who keep sucking). Think how much nicer it would be if the bottom feeder teams were wiped out and their good players were redistributed to the remaining teams? The games would be much more competitive.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
If there ever was a time for BG and CV to win us the game
this would be it
insert aussie stereotype here
I hate the Celtics
but man, props to the celtics fans who are coming here to wish Rodney well. pretty damn sportsmanlike, in my opinion.
Aminu, here we come!!11
Hey MP,
A Greg Payne over at CelticsBlog. Relation?
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
...and that's fair play too.
Thanks for the compliment. Let’s just hope Stuck will be well.
Also, come along, jump on our bandwagon; we got T-Shirts! ;)
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Wait what happened to Stuckey?
I stopped watching at the half, just about when CV let Verahoe get them back in the game.
What’s all this stuff about Stuck?
Scroll up! Lots of good coverage. Thanks to everyone for filling in the blanks!
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
So he just collapsed?
I’m still confused, did he have a seizure or did he just fall unconscious?
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Get well Rodney!
This brought back ugly memories…
by Amager Celtic Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Modeled after Mason
When Dan Gilbert bought them he tried to bring Mason along, and when that failed he just got an imitator. Remember,he took Fred McCloud with him, too.
by MFCasey on Mar 5, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He really IS the league for the next 10 years. He’s just so, so, so good. That’s why it’s so frustrating when he gets so much help from the refs — he doesn’t need it!
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
It makes the games unwatchable. Let the man go to work and prove his worth, it doesn’t do his reputation any favors to be treated like a King. In my mind, his victories will never be quite legitimate as long as the refs continue to hand him some easy ones.
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Don't you love it? :)
I know “we” do! :D
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
The difference between Varejao and the average big
Is that Varejao knows exactly where to go, and he sprints there. Every single time.
A guy like Max or CV will hedge a screen, but are slow in getting back, or don’t set a proper trap. That’s why we have such bad perimeter D.
I haven't seen CV drop a good screen all year
That’s why he’s a horrible pick and roll player, all he does is walk next to the guard and the defenders get an uninhibited path directly to our player
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
He’s trying; flab is just too easy to run through.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
That's too good of an excuse for his pathetic effort
He’s just extremely lazy, it’s the same thing with him on defense. I’d feel a lot better if he actually was trying and it was his weight issues that got in the way
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
We got a free throw
Apparently it takes Rodney having a seizure for us to get some calls.
Fuck you David Stearn.
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
He listened to you; that last shot he actually had 2 feet on the line, which is the worst. shot. in. basketball.
I’m pretty sure a behind-the-back, two-handed granny over-the-shoulder from full court is worse.
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm of the opposite opinion
I really believe we cannot stop the Cavs on D, so we need to burn them with offense.
He was a little hasty with that shot though.
insert aussie stereotype here
Agree. We’ve gone totally stagnant on offense. If we could get some buckets, that would stop the bleeding but the Cavs are slowly pulling away.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
God, I think I gave Ben Gordon every benefit of the doubt. But that dude is not playing well. At all.
About time you came to your senses
Gordon is extremely overpaid for the pathetic production he’s offering. And even if he was in rhythm, his shot selection is terrible
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
CV is the KING of the attempted reach around after he gets burned. I HATE that defensive “play”. Such a lazy, fake effort.
Not entirely true
I would say he shares that crown with Will Bynum
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
How can CV POSSIBLY complain to the ref about that foul? He power spiked over LeBron’s shoulder at 100 mph!
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else find it funny
That LeBron has gone from a guy that would recklessly drive to them rim on every play to almost too 3 point happy? For as smart as he plays, he’s gotten way too confident with his shooting ability to kill the shot clock and shoot a contested 3
After tonight, nothing is funny. Ever again.
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually it has cost them a few games
Such as the Denver game. He went 1-9 from 3 but 14-22 from 2s. He single handily lost them that game because he kept bricking a bunch of 3s in the fourth. I believe he passed the ball like 3 times in the 4th, as he had 15 assists in the 3rd quarter, and ended with 15 assists after OT.
Or Milwaukee, when he had a solid 10 seconds to run a play, but instead he decided to dribble the clock away and shoot a contested 3 about 4 feet behind the line.
He’d be shooting 60% from the floor if he would stop pretending to be a shooting specialist.
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Weird stat
Tayshaun, probably our best player this game, is worst with a -12.
CV is only -2, but it feels ten times that.
StuckeyWatch: In stable condition, breathing on his own, everything is stable. Abdenour is with him, working his mojo.
That's great
I wonder what caused the seizure? Exhaustion or was a previous medical issue that can be fixed?
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
That's the game
Great first half. Horrible horrible second for many reasons.
insert aussie stereotype here
Detroit is high up in my favorite teams, Rip being one of the major reasons.
Hoped you guys would can the Cavs, and it looked so good for so long…
No offense intended with this question, but by lack of better phrasing (it’s 3:50 am here) I’ll try it like this:
You think the ‘decline’ in the game had a lot to do with Stuckey? I understand you wouldn’t want to put the blame on that totally, but it might’ve affected your squad to a certain extend…
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Yes, but don't forget CV
He alone was the proponent of Cleveland getting back into the game, as they were down by 20 until Verabitch killed us in about 20 different ways as CV just stood around and watched.
Stuckey was having a great game, but Kuester’s rotation would have prevented him from having the kind of impact he could potentially have
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Should I conclude that CV is the hated child of the gang?
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Some nights it’s CV, some nights it’s Ben Gordon.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Hehehe, yeh I noticed some "I hate Ben Gordon" posts ;)
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
I think most fans are just tired of the losses, though. We’re not used to it, and a lot of the losses seem to be in the worst manner possible (laziness, blown leads, stupid head case fouls and plays, weird lineups, injuries, etc). We’re just not playing well, and the two guys we gave lots of money to are REALLY not playing well. But on the bright side, at least we don’t have Michael Curry and Allen Iverson. Hooray!
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
AI's wife just filed for a divorce
I wonder if marital problems were holding him back in Philly. He just didn’t seem to have his usual brand of asshole confidence
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
At first I was a bit skeptical of his daughter’s illness (which makes me a huge jerk) but at this point I’ll believe anything that guy says. His life is just a circus. He’s one of those guys that crazy things just happen to, it seems.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Good point, to a degree;
as I feel some people actually attract some of the circus (not including the disease of his daughter ofc.) with their own (sometimes boneheaded) actions.
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Heck, are you kidding me?
Sounds like you just described our past few months; laziness, blown leads, weird lineups, injuries… Seriously. Seriously.
So yeh, I know how it feels. Try searching for “trade Ray Allen” over at Celtics Blog ;) He’s our scapegoat.
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Yeah, but you guys are used to losing except for that time you got KG and Ray Allen and won the championship, right?
(I kid, I kid……kind of) :D
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Hehehe, granted.
Sorry, I’ll take my “championship-winning-ass” out of here ;) hehehe, good day to ya’ll.
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Championships feel good, don’t they? Only a few different teams have them in the last 25 years, so it’s good company. Thanks for stopping by!
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
There's a difference
Ray Allen is HOF that went through a slump and unfairly took blame.
CV and Gordon were always very inconsistent before they signed with Detroit, and it certainly doesn’t help that CV is extremely lazy (I’ll give Gordon the benefit of the doubt on defense, it looks like he’s trying, but other players just shoot over him)
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
This is one of the reasons I like venturing out of Celticland:
… to get some outside views on our squad. We Celtic fans tend to be rather hard on our team too. Don’t give them enough credit, expect way too much. Believe me, after raising that banner in the first year our Big Three came together, expectations were raised at least as high as that number 17.
I think you might be right. Ray Allen is a great player and we should respect them a bit more.
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Generally you can list both their names in the “reasons why we lost” column. Ohh the irony, they were supposed to take us back into playoff contention
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve had a lot of very lengthy conversations about this, and it’s too tough to sum up in a quick response— nor could I link you to solid reference material here on DBB in one place. I think Stuckey is a solid PG, but I don’t think a winning team can be built around him. Now if he were traded to an already winning team with a point player at either the 2 or the 3, he could be a huge plus. But as constructed, he may actually bring down Detroit’s ceiling a bit. I hope I didn’t just open up a can of worms…
Aminu, here we come!!11
Nice answer, gives one some insight on Detroit Basketball actually.
Thanks.
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
I think that's fair for the most part
He is not the right fit for this team as constructed. However he’s shown that he can be the lead guard next to another legitimate, unselfich playmaker. Such as when he was playing with Chucky. He really didn’t change his game all that much, and in fact his assist numbers went up along with his scoring. A lot of that had to with the fact that he had no veterans in his way, and was just given the ball and told to have fun with it.
A big reason why Tyreke is doing so much better in Sacktown is because that team is constructed such that he’s the primarily ball handler. Where as here, you see a lot of Prince and Hamilton trying to setup plays. That isn’t a bad thing until you see them trying to create their own shot, which just holds up the entire offense.
Stuckey would be in a much better position if he was playing alongside more players like JJ (a lot of catch and shoot), and had a single other playmaking teammate. His scoring was just fine when it was him and Rip, however once Tay came into the mix, then it fall off a cliff.
However I think you can build a team around him. The problem is you can try to force a dynamic scoring point guard into a system that is based off everyone making plays for each other. If he’s going to be the lead guard, then everyone else should have expect that and let him create.
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
As a scorer, no doubt
Kobe will always be a better scorer than LeBron because of shooting ability. Kobe is an unbelieveable shot maker, being able to drain shots from any distance and any angle.
Bron’s scoring primarily comes from having a huge physical advantage. However his ability as a facilitator is undeniable.
As much as I can’t stand him, he’s the best player in the NBA because he consistently produces at a high level in many different categories.
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
He is the best based on pure statistics.. but if you factor in the dbag factor then he is way down on the list.
No doubt
The only thing bigger than LeBron’s jaw is his ego.
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately, the Cavs have destroyed the Lake-Show twice this season.
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Pao must have been hanging out with Daye
Because he completely failed to show up in the first one and epically choked at the line in the second
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else want to just buyout CV?
And cut our losses now? That would save us 4 more years of grief. And essentially through addition by subtraction, we become a much better team as a whole. It’s not like the Pistons are strapped for cash, they’ve never touched luxury tax even though they consistently went deep into the playoffs.
It’s tempting, but I say give him the off season to work out (kick his ass in the gym, Big Ben!) and also some more time to gel with these guys.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Work ethic
I’d be shocked to see him in the gym. Playing with Big Ben seems to have done nothing on his laziness. It’s quite shocking that he’s still an awful defender playing along side one of the greatest centers of all time (if I recall, Big Ben’s defensive rating in 03-04 is tops all time).
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
And face the wrath of point totals of 12, 9, 0, and 2 against his former team?
I think not, my friend.
by TDP on Mar 5, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
So sad for Stuckey
I heard about it on GSOM, did it look really bad when it hapened? previous signs of fatigue etc? again my condolences from me and gsom
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
Nice to see that huddle with both teams.
Again, you guys do what you must for Stuckey; pray, wish and/or hope.
Hope ya guys do well (or get a good lottery pick.)
Dee-troit!
- Dirk van Boxtel, the wandering Celtic fan.
Twitter: @4Hoopz
Onto some happier thoughts
The Tigers’ offense is surprisingly good so far. They spanked Houston, 17-7.
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 10:15 PM EST reply actions
So Tayshaun was a team low -13
He has never ever ever been able to contain LeBron, is it just superstition that we keep him on LeBron? Why don’t we give Daye or Jerebko or Summers a shot at him? What could it possibly hurt? NO ONE CAN GUARD HIM!
I know Tay scored a bunch but really who cares? We lost. You spend so much time with someone (8+ games a season PLUS the olympics) you figure out how they guard you and what you can do to get around them and do what you want.
I think if anyone other than Tay tried to guard LeBron, they’d be fouled out. JJ wouldn’t last 20 minutes on the court.
/tinfoil hat’d
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Not true. If CV tried to guard LeBron, he’d have probably only 2 fouls in 40 minutes of play.
Of course LeBron would also have a career high 10 billion points to go with 3 million assists.
by bearded thundar on Mar 5, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
That's BS
Double him, triple him who cares but he can only score 2 ro 3 each time and even with Tay on him he scores at will. The problem is they let Tay guard him straight up and they don’t send a double. (not that it would matter) We have a future to think about and obviously Tay isn’t getting it done.
I was watching a Hank Gathers video earlier today
So when Stuckey went down my mind went to the worse place possible.
Glad to hear he is stable.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
“everyone see this doucher?”
So much win.
by garrettelliott on Mar 5, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Even though it didn't happen during gameplay.
The Stuckey incident reminds me of the time Jiri Fischer collapsed on the ice during the Redwings game a couple years back.
Recap post is live. (Well, it’s more of a “What happened to Stuckey?” post for those just tuning in than a recap, but still.)
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