Hittin' the Links: The Kings/Pistons Draft Pick Swap Rumor, Arnie's Impact, and Jonas Jerebko Hitting A Golf Ball 300+ Yards
by Packey on Jun 17, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
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PrintThe Pistons are probably weighing all their options. After all, they could potentially get as high as No. 3 if the rumors that the Nets might be willing to trade their pick are true. Conceivably, though, Prince would still be great value at the trade deadline, so the Pistons could be holding on to him until then to see how the season plays out. Even if he plays miserable or gets hurt, he's still $11 million coming off the books for somebody looking to shed salary. The big question, of course, is whether or not his value is at its greatest right now. That's something Joe Dumars needs to figure out, obviously.
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Gotta have some patient!
It doesn’t make a lot of sense to make a trade like that BEFORE we know who the teams in front have picked…. A Sac/NJ type deal, if considered , will likely happen on draft day.
I don't think I've read this Ted Kulfan before...
…are his columns always this stupid? The 20th best poster on this site gives better analysis than that.
I'm just happy to be in the top 100
My two favorite teams are the Tigers and Brewers. Drunk tigers. That sounds about right.
Me in 140 characters
his "Jason Maxiell trade could raise Pistons' talent" article
isn’t strong to quite strong.
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As best poster #84
I have been trying to take Kulfan down all year and find this very discouraging
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
by Skylar on Jun 17, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew that was going to get some comments.
Back in the pre-SBNation days, I think Boney put up a ranking of the Top 10 posters.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 17, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Dajuan Blair make the top 10?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I know that the bloggers will get some information at the end of the year.
Kurt put up a list at BYB of the top commenters.
I prefer quality over quantity though.
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I'm personally not too
Keen on Trading prince for Cousins (essentially). If possible find a way around trading him until the deadline.
by Taiwanese Tora on Jun 17, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions
on the other hand, what if cousins is as some people have said, just another Z Bo or Eddy Curry? ah fuck it, i still say trade tay for him.
I think given our situation and what he brings to the table
the Pistons have to take the chance.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
Z bo tore it up last season and made the grizzlies relevant again, I think they had a playoff spot if they played in The east.
by JoeDip on Jun 17, 2010 11:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah im all for this trade, im just trying to see why people wouldnt be down with it. i say dump tay and get cousins even if it means that we have to take back bad salary. isnt that kinda the point? its not like the kings will just give us what we want out of the kindness of their hearts.
and yes Zbo did tear it up last year, but now the usual shenanigans popped up again after his season ended.
Plus is not an Elton Brand kind of contract the Pistons are taking
Is about 7 millions, and just one extra year. Right?
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
"In the comments, they're already having fun calling Prince a King."
Tayshaun Prince on the Sacramento Kings…synergy!
THAT'S GOLD JERRY!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I'm kind of assuming that this is just playing the negotiation game.
I think Dumars WOULD do Prince/7 for Noc/5, but I think he’s playing a bit of hardball, especially since:
A) Noc wants out, making the Kings more desperate to unload him.
B) Prince’s value goes up as the deadline approaches.
With a whole week until the draft, and knowing that Prince/7 for Noc/5 IS on the table, why should Dumars leap at it right away? Unless they believe someone has a better deal in mind, which I don’t know if anyone in the 8, 9, 10 spot has a large expiring ala Prince nor do I think the Kings want to move that far down.
Right now, I think Dumars is in the driver seat in this potential deal and I think he’s going to wait the Kings out. We might luck out and have them maybe include a 2nd rounder or something.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions
Don't Like That Trade At All
Much rather would swap with the Sixers for Brand and the #2. You get the higher pick, and the much better player. I believe Brand would thrive in the Detroit system, yes, his knees are bad, but it’s been well discussed he’d just a bad fit for the Philly system.
Frankly, I don’t see any deal happening before draft day. Should the Wiz not take Wall, I think we’re going to be on the phone with Philly stat.
I doubt we take on Brand.
Remember that we are currently for sale. I do not see a scenario where we take on Brand so long as we don’t know our future owner.
Scary thought: what if Dumars WANTS to make this deal, but the upper level executives don’t want him adding any long term salary? Even though dealing for Noc saves us money this year, it’s another $7 million on the salary next season, and we might be in full cost cutting mode. Good, if expensive, players are traded for bad ones with shorter contracts. Not an unlikely scenario.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I've heard
Management is not allowing Dumars to add any more salary, which is likely why he is pushing to trade Rip instead of Tay in the Sacremento deal.
Otherwise I would do the Brand deal in a heart beat, because you could draft Cousins and play them respectively at the high post and low post. If you can get 15 and 9 out of Brand in that deal, I would call it a success – simply because in 2 years that will turn into a massive expiring deal that we could use as a final piece to the puzzle ala Sheed (assuming Dumars hits the upcoming drafts on the head).
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
97.1 among other places
So far they have been by far the most reputable rumor mill that I have utilized; they do a very good job of only bringing up things that have a fairly high degree of reputability and are almost always first in the know with Detroit sports.
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
but wait one minute
wasn’t that the same “source” that said izzo was gone? I thought someone here reported that they were saying that Izzo was a Cav?
by C$ on Jun 17, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
no.
They reported that Izzo was seriously considering it, but once LeBron refused to speak with him it sealed the deal.
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a dick move by bron. does it seem like this free agency thing might damage bron’s image quite a bit if he lets the circus play out?
I would say so
But I always hated his personality ever since he endorsed the “I witness” t-shirts.
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely.
How many times have the two players that he’s compared to the most changed teams?
Kobe: 0
MJ: 0, unless you count the bastardizing of his legacy by being Player-Coach for the Wizards…which I do not.
Kobe will retire a Laker just like MJ “retired” a Bull. Lebron can still fulfill his legacy IF he wins a bunch of championships in New York. Personally I think if he goes to Chicago he’ll always be compared to MJ and will always be defined as second to MJ if only because MJ came first and Lebron is not likely going to bring in 6 championships…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
If Dumars saw a move he loved, he would do it with managements consent or not.
Then talk his way into waiting a year to see how his trade worked before firing him for disobeying.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He'd be like the batman of the basketball world.
Joe Dumars – fighting for the sanctity of basketball.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
haha yeah a lone man on a crusade
but it would be like me buying an hdtv with my boss’s credit card and being like “what i was supposed to ask you if i could do that?”
What's that Baxter? You ate a whole wheel of cheese?
I’m not even mad. That’s amazing.
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
by Skylar on Jun 17, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You're so wise...
You’re like a miniature buddha covered in fur.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I contemplated not posting this
Since I got it from the message board at P.com that in turn got it from a blog. So credibility is lacking. It is interesting nonetheless and we have a week to wait still.
Recent talk from guys like Drew Sharp and Matt Shepard on WDFN are saying that Karen Davidson, Bill Davidson’s widow, is that Davidson did nix part of the Dumars plan last offseason.
The plan did look like this. Utah and Detroit did have an agreement for a trade to take place after last year’s Free Agency. Detroit would deal SG Rip Hamilton to Utah for PF Carlos Boozer. That would give the Jazz a shooting guard they really needed and a very good player for Boozer who they are definitely going to lose for nothing this offseason. The Pistons would get a very good inside player that would put up a consistent 20/10 for them. In addition, the inside scoring would make Ben Gordon (who would move into the starting lineup) and Charlie Villanueva much more effective players. Villanueva would get a bigger boost because he cannot create his own shot like Gordon can. If the Pistons decide that Boozer is not going to work out for them, then they would not resign him and his huge contract would come off the books at the end of the season.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
does not surprise me
Guys Dumars is a very smart man, I have said this for quite a long time now that it was management, not his own idea, to pursue Gordon and CV.
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was both, honestly.
I think management set the criteria of “We want a more offensive-minded, exciting team.” and Dumars picked guys that he thought fit that criteria. I very much doubt management specifically said “go get Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva.”
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
why not?
Gordon put up huge numbers against Boston, and management wanted to raise the value of the team to sell it. It would make sense for someone with no basketball IQ to go out and get such a player
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Dumars picked CV
He was the best remaining option, and I still think that he can well outplay his contract if he continues with his weight training regimen and plays to his potential. We’ve seen stretches of it, and his last year with the Bucks he strung together a very nice run of 20+, 10+ games
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is that Gordon's name popped up long before the Boston series.
At that time I kind of just laughed it off. But I think they were interested in him for a while.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
A boner or two may have been popped during that boston series.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
While some here may not think highly of Gordon
Is not far fetched to consider that perhaps Dumars honestly liked him as a replacement for Rip. Honestly, while he may not be the most defensive sg in the league, the truth is that his contract bothers most due to Rip’s presence and contract.
I doubt many would have been too unhappy if the team entering the season was Stuckey/Gordon/Prince/Boozer/Wallace
with possibly Bynum/Afflalo/Jerebko/Villanueva/Brown off the bench/
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
I can't wait to talk about whether we re-sign Kwame or not.
because we will basically have our hopefully new roster set by then.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
no that position should go to Darko
Because we would only have to pay him with massive cheeseburgers, something that would really help a company trying to cut costs
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Is not far fetched to consider that perhaps Dumars honestly liked him as a replacement for Rip.
To me, that’s the whole problem. BG will be the most highly-paid player on the team (sans Rip), and our team’s obvious, obvious need is big men. He’s building on a shaky foundation, in other words. Unless your SG is Kobe Bryant or Dwayne Wade, he’s likely not worth building around.
In my comment
it was following the line that Dumars signed Gordon because he had agreed to trade Rip to Utah for Boozer.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
I see your point, but even so, BG would be making prime-time player money, right? His contract doesn’t change, regardless of who the PF is. That’s been my beef since we signed him. He’s simply making too much money. He’s paid like a franchise cornerstone, which he’s not ( and won’t be, epinion). It’s a mis-allocation of resources.
While I won't say that he is not overpaid.
I don’t think 10 millions is franchise cornerstone money.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
$10-11 million is a franchise cornerstone?
Eh, I’m not seeing it. It’s expensive, no doubt, but plenty of teams pay $9-10 million to bench players.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
$58 million over 5 years
Is almost $12 million per year, not $10.
The cap is going to be $53 million this season. BG will be making $10.8. That’s nearly 20% of the team’s cap space…. so, not sure how you could consider that type of money anything other than franchise-cornerstone money.
Franchise corner stone is pushing $15+ million a year.
Of course, this is just arguing over price more than merit. We both believe he doesn’t deserve franchise cornerstone money but we disagree on what is cornerstone money.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
11.6 million is not a franchise-cornerstone contract.
I think he’s a bit overpaid, but that’s clearly an exaggeration. Tomato, tomato is a bit of cop out.
Cop out? No way. I was just trying to put the thing to rest, because we disagree about what constitutes ‘franchise-cornerstone’ money. BG is the 2nd highest paid player on the team, with a contract that averages just about 12 million per, which is also nearly 20% of the team’s cap space.
I’d say 20% of a team’s cap space counts as one of the cornerstone contracts. Others don’t. We can both argue our position coherently.
But forget generalities — what are the top 3 contracts on our team right now? And if Tay and Rip are in fact moved, who’s left?
So because he would be our largest contract he is our cornerstone?
I guess Rashard Lewis is the Magic’s franchise cornerstone.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
Clarification
Rashard IS getting paid franchise cornerstore money.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
He gets more than Howard
who is the actual franchise/cornerstone in Orlando
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
No, that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying his contract — relative to the salary cap and relative to the payroll that the Pistons currently have and have had over the past decade — is.
In the past decade, Joe’s never given out Rashard Lewis type money. What he’s done instead is spread the money around to 2-4 guys — Billups, Rip, Tay, Sheed. What BG is making is very comparable to those four guys, each of whom was a franchise cornerstone.
We haven’t had “the guy” since Grant Hill. Instead, we’ve had multiple. BG is now one of those guys.
That’s all I’m saying.
More Succinctly:
BG isn’t the cornerstone. His contract indicates that Joe thinks he can be one among 1-2 others, judging on the way Dumars has spent money in the past.
Being a bit stubborn, perhaps?
No shame in just admitting you overstated the case.
So according to his money
Ben Gordon is our starting SG going forward? I think so, yeah.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
To be fair to BG
He was playing like a franchise SG pre-Rip return/first ankle injury last season.
Through the first 14 he was averaging 20.6 PPG, 3 assists, and 2.3 rebounds while shooting 45% from the field and 39% from beyond the arc.
His biggest issue was that he was averaging 15 shots per game and only scoring 1.6 points per shot attempt, but those are the kind of numbers we grew to expect from Rip and Rip is getting paid slightly more than what BG will be paid in any given year.
Not saying they’re superstar or even all-star numbers, but with an inside scoring threat, they should be good enough.
I mean do y’all remember talking about last season and thinking to ourselves, "shit our backcourt could end up averaging more than 60 points per game! Rodney for 15, BG for 20, Rip for 15, and Bynum for 10…just think if we had actually had a solid interior post presence to add to that…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
actualy he started out on fire
Averaging 25 points off 50% fg%, 40+% from 3 the first week.
He started to cool off when defenses started putting all their focus on him and then was history with the injury
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He was absolutely THE MAN in those first few games. I remember people were saying, “Yeah, he’s totally worth the money.” I hope he can get back to that level (or close) next year.
by garrettelliott on Jun 17, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
don't care about the raw scoring
Just the PPP (essentially how many points per possession).
As long as he has a high PPP, I really don’t care what he does with the team. It will mean that he can either be disguised within the system or let to roam on his and we’ll still win a lot of games.
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Pungent Packaderm Prostituting?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
People's Parcheesi Party
The cross is boss
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
In the shadow of the moon is epic
Great documentary on the Apollo moon shots. I recommend you guys watch it, even if you don’t find any value in the science behind it all.
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions
noticed something funny
in the documentary they showed the responses across the world when Apollo 11 landed on the moon; just about everywhere but Russia was jumping around, high fiving etc and saying “we did it!” I’m like wait a minute. We? I thought half you guys hated us what with world war II and what not, what the hell did you do to help?
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
so much for that trade
The Sixers have agreed to trade Samuel Dalembert to the Kings for Andres Nocioni and Spencer Hawes, according to a report from Chad Ford of ESPN.
RealGM Note: Dalembert is entering the final season of his contract.
by don'tworryaboutit on Jun 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
that may benefit us
That could mean that Sacremento has its eye on either Johnson or Aminu as Dalembert is a very nice defensive center (and why would they trade Hawes if they didn’t intend on keeping him?)
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
also
there is a rule that you can retrade a player within something like 24 hours.
I would love to do a Rip/Tay +7 for Dalembert +5 swap. The salaries would line up perfectly and we could get two centers out of the deal (an offensive and defensive one no less)
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe even Hayward says Chad Ford.
Could it be possible Cousins may just fall to us now?
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on GS
but I doubt they take him
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I just dropped acid and this is what i saw
Wash – Wall
Philly – Favors
NJ – Johnson
Minny – Turner(i honestly think he’s a little hyped)
Sac – Aminu/Hayward
GS – Monroe
Det – Cousins
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Let the man have his acid-induced hallucinations!
by garrettelliott on Jun 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can't
My birthday is the day of the draft. I cannot have my heart broken on my birthday.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
Write a letter to Jonas
I bet you that he would respond, wishing you a happy birthday
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
"NBA Cares"
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
by Skylar on Jun 17, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Boston thought they had the big man of their dreams
You may have heard of him. His name was Len Bias. After he was drafted, he died of a cocaine overdose. The Celtics wouldn’t win a championship for another 22 years.
Wah-wahhhhhhh.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 17, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That deal was done awfulling quick if they were just rejected on the Pistons deal.
Which kind of leads me to believe that the rumor was shit.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
lol awfulling.
I wonder what the definition would be.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dumars rampant awfulling
has put us into quite the conundrum this off-season
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
I just put the Chad Ford link up in a FanShot
Chad Ford also said Johnson is a lock at 4. Minnesota loves him.
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doesn't surprise me
The guy looks like the next Danny Grainger, he would be the perfect fit for them. If they draft smart, they could also get their defensive center in the second round or perhaps even a #16 with Whiteside.
Who would have thought? The Wolves are the ones looking like potential geniuses if Whiteside or Aldrich falls to 16 and they get a nice SG at 23.
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
There's good days in basketball rumors and there's bad days.
Pistons just had a bad day.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm inclined to agree.
Mainly because now Sacramento has no young center prospects (at least that I can think of). I do believe that Prince/7 for Noc/5 was bullplop because of this deal, though. But now I see Cousins as being their guy at 5.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
so philly screwed us over with the coin flip and now this?
by don'tworryaboutit on Jun 17, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you want Doug Collins
Players hate him beyond belief. He improves his teams a lot in the first year or two, and then they regress a lot because the players just can’t stand him
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Doug Collins, Scott Skiles, and Avery Johnson.
All do that.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Also MCIAFI
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
MCIAFI improved our team?
News to me.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 18, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN reporting that they may be making this deal to improve at the 3.
And that they might like the Landry/Dalembert/Thompson frontline.
Forgot that they landed Landry in the Kevin Martin deal. Maybe they are less likely to go big?
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 17, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
I believe that
Dalembert is a good player that was given the wrong contract and somewhat unfairly hated on (similar to Gordon except their skills are on the opposite sides of the court), resign him on a cheaper deal and you’ve got a very solid (not necessarily great) frontline for the next 3-5 years.
Also I do think they will draft Aminu now. I thought from the start that they would either draft Monroe or one of the wings with their lottery pick. Now that they got a solid, quite athletic, defensive center to run with Tyreke, the next thing to do would be get him an athletic wing. Seeing how Minnesota will take Johnson, Aminu would be the logical choice.
Most importantly, I believe that Philly has made up their mind to get Favors. It would make most sense, and I’ve been saying for a long time now that Turner and Iggy are just too similar to use such a great draft pick on him.
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not convinced
Really, whether they draft a SF or a big it would be ideal to have a veteran at that position on a short contract.
As it stands right now, Sac is really thin at SF, PF, and Center (at least regarding talent). They also are bringing Monroe and Whiteside back for a second workout. If they like Aminu and Monroe, they might as well trade down since one is practically guaranteed to be there at 7. Problem is, I’m not sure what the Kings would want from the Pistons other than Tay, and I don’t see what the Kings could offer the Pistons for Tay other than Dalembert. That said, maybe it wouldn’t take much if they really want Monroe or Aminu anyway.
i don’t think jod is trying to move any of the young players at this point. I hope he’s trying to amass as many young player as possible to put him self in a position like the blazers/thunder or like the celts when they swung all those trades. Just epinion.
by C$ on Jun 17, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
smart idea
I would trade all of our older than 26 players for draft picks in any way possible, even if it means short selling. We need to give up on the current and look 3 to 4 years down the road instead. That will mean an a lot better future than our current plan
by bearded thundar on Jun 17, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
1 great young player > 2 good young players
I’ll give you 2 pennies for that one dumb quarter.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
New Trade Idea
Tayshaun and the 7th pick for Francisco Garcia and the 5th.
Now that Sacramento has a Center (and assuming they don’t want another one), their best play is to squeeze something out of someone for the 5th pick. It’s likely that anyone they want will be available at 7. That something they squeeze could be Tayshuan in exchange for Garcia.
If they can’t make a trade and they draft a wing. Then, the Pistons will take Monroe or Cousins (whoever drops).
QUICK: START A RUMOR THAT COUSINS WAS CAUGHT WITH POT!!!!
QUICK: START A RUMOR THAT COUSINS WAS CAUGHT WITH POT!!!!
The two teams ahead of us who might grab Cousins are from Cali right?
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 17, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Kings pistons
Thank god for dalembert that trade sinked nocioni is in philly/ tayshun needs to stay
by Fred W. Capel on Jun 18, 2010 2:18 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
no idea why Fred is important
but I greened it for you
by bearded thundar on Jun 18, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed out on the Fred era
but he’s kinda in the realm of Coach_DP, they’re like rare Pokémons
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
WELCOME BACK, FRED W. CAPEL.
DBB IS NOT THE SAME WITHOUT YOU.
by -PS- on Jun 18, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
YOU WAS ON A MILK CARTON
BUT YOU MIGHT BE BACK NOW.
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
by Skylar on Jun 18, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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