PG needed... PG found...

by Fletcher, Irwin M. on Jun 2, 2010 11:39 AM EDT

Before you get all upset and say that we have a wonderful PG in Rodney Stuckey, hear me out. Yes we have many 'wingmen' in Ben Gordon, Stuckey, and RIP. But, if you look back at the great Piston teams, we are lacking a much needed piece to the championship puzzle... a true PG. One player that I feel is way under the radar and seems to be in a similar position that one Chauncey Billups was early on in his career. A first round draft pick that was given up on...but, has managed to stick around to contribute in a back-up role and contribute efficiently when called upon.

Taken 3rd overall in the 1997 NBA draft, Chauncey traveled the North America during his first four years in the league. Obviously already upset they lost out on all three chances to nab the number one pick and surefire stud, Tim Duncan, the Boston Celtics traded the young guard to land of maple syrup and hockey for the older, more established Kenny Anderson. From there, Chauncey jumped kept his winter jacket on and headed to the Rockies, where he enjoyed a short-lived home town reunion with the Denver Nuggets, who later dumped him to the Magic. Never playing for the Magic, Chuancey caught on as the back up for the Minnesota Timberwolves star, Terrell Brandon. Taking advantage of a Brandon injury, Chauncey finally proved that he could handle being the captain of an NBA ship with a steady 2001-2002 season. Joe Dumars took a flyer on a young journeyman... The rest is history.

Enter my suggestion for the newest Piston PG... Kyle Lowry. Before you leave this post to open a new tab to get to Google to find out who I am talking about about... here me out... Well, go ahead... See who I'm talking about then, tab back over and continue reading...

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Taken 24th overall in the 2006 NBA draft after two seasons at Villanova, Kyle Lowry played in a spartan 10 games his rookie season. By year number two, he played in all 82 games and averaged nearly 10 pts, 3 rebs, and 3 assists per game in 25 minutes of play. Tossed in a three-team trade in the 2008-09 season, he landed with the Houston Rockets, where his steady numbers continued. This year, though shotting a less-than-gaudy 40% from the field (his career FG percentage is 42), he put up very good numbers considering he only averaged 24 minutes per game - 9.1 points, 3.6 rebounds, 4.5 assists, and .9 steals per game. Sporting a higher assists-per-48-minutes average (8.9) than likes of Tony Parker, Jarrett Jack, Andre Miller, Brandon Jennings, Jason Williams, and our very own Will Bynum, Kyle's numbers show he can handle the full-time load of running a team. Similarly, his rebounds-per-48-minutes number of 7.2 places him 8th among guards who averaged more than 20 minutes a game. When considering only true PG's, he is 2nd only to triple-double machine, Jason Kidd and his 7.4 average (per 48).

If the price is right...and I'm guessing it is, Joey D needs to seriously consider conducting an in-depth cost benefit analysis regarding obtaining Kyle Lowry's services for the Detroit Pistons. He may never end up being a sure-fire stud, starting point guard in the league, but, at a minimum he will remain a very productive back-up PG.

-Fletcher, Irwin M.

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I like Lowry, but the Pistons would have to spend a lot of their mid-level exception to acquire him, which is money that could be spent on a big. Re-signing Bynum wouldn’t affect the MLE.

by Birdman84 on Jun 2, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions

Lowry is better the Bynum...

…I like Bynum dont get me wrong but if we can get Lowry we have to do what we can to get him.

by BennieBladesFan on Jun 2, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions

I understand.

I am thinking we will be able to free up room by unloading one of our big contract guys. I believe it would be worth a shot. I do like Bynum…Sign and trade on both ends. I believe he fits the mold of a Joe D guy. He often got minutes because he was a much better defender than the leagues MIP, Aaron Brooks. (insert Dumars’ request for grit and toughness).

by Fletcher, Irwin M. on Jun 2, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions

It looks like you did your homework

However you really shouldn’t look at per 48 numbers for guys that exclusively play limited minutes off the bench. There generally is a reason for that, kinda like how CV actually projected better numbers than Bosh in points and rebounds but proved that having horrible defense and bad fundamentals were the reason why he never got the same play time.

I’d be willing to take a flier, but for as many faults as I find with Will, I wouldn’t swap him for Lowry. Kyle only shot 40% from the field, that’s generally a bad sign for guys that are going against other teams’ reserves. I would prefer to see at least 45%, if not closer to 50% when you talk about back up point guards.

A good example of 2 point guards that have proven themselves against starting lineups are Goran Drajic and Darren Collison. In the playoffs, Darjic only shot 43%, however he had a very high TS% when you take into consideration that he was actually playing against opposing starters the majority the time. It was the bench’s play, not the starters that got Phoenix into the conference finals. As for Collison, just read my write up, that will do a much better job than any summary I could write.

But once again, I like the fact that you did some research on this. Keep up the work, you will quickly become a very valuable member if you continue posting thought out fanposts like this.

by bearded thundar on Jun 2, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions

Trade CV for Lowry

or Gordon, Detroit needs to find a way to unload alot of cap space invested in two players. What a mess Joe D got himself into…

by SmittyJ on Jun 2, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions

Look at what was here before he took over...

…nothing….he got us a championship…Yes some bad contracts but that stuff will happen…GO PISTONS!!!!

by BennieBladesFan on Jun 2, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions

still got us in a bind Bennie

came out the gates running now were moving backwards.

by SmittyJ on Jun 2, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Meh. Lowry’s a fine player. But probably not a great investment of resources.

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by brgulker on Jun 2, 2010 2:01 PM EDT reply actions

Collison and Dragic

I definitely agree with your statement. I make the statement primarily because I believe he would be an easier option to obtain as opposed Darren and Goran (they are very sought after in my fantasy GM league).

Just as I say shooting percentage is not as important, you are going to mention Chris Duhon (I hate Duke), but because he has the other intangibles that, I think, he more than makes up for it (in rebounds, assists and steals) I don’t deny the other two PG you mention are better, but I am trying to find that “diamond” in the rough. Everyone knows Collison is a stud… Dragic is lesser known, but after PHX’s run this year in the post season, I think everyone knows who that “other white point guard” for PHX is. (They keep showing that drive he made on highlights). Nash is getting old. Goran is their future. Darren is a more interesting story because of Paul. I say we sell the farm and grab CP3.

by Fletcher, Irwin M. on Jun 2, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions

p.s.

after clicking on Kyle Lowry’s name in my post, the Rocket’s bog site has a very good article on him. It looks like regardless of stats per 48, even with his 24 minutes, he was the #3 ranked PG in rebounds… impressive, I’d say… plus, the 4.5 assists is pretty good do, in my opinion…

by Fletcher, Irwin M. on Jun 2, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

assists can be misleading

AI always did very well in terms of assists, it really isn’t so much about how many assists the point guard gets but rather how well the offense runs with him.

For instance, even though Will generates more assists, he actually only gets the same number of points per 100 possesions as Stuckey.

However, surprisingly enough Lowry actually outperformed Brooks in both points score and points allowed per 100 possesions. Kyle is +105 on the year, and Aaron is -26.

But I can tell you this much, if Lowry really is this diamond in the rough, Houston probably knew about it a long time ago. They have some of the best statisticians in the league, just look at their team. No matter how mediocre they look on paper to the naked eye, they win 50 games every year. It’s about high time the Pistons get their heads out of their asses and admit that statistical analysis is very important when it comes to setting up a team (though I maintain that you cannot let stats tell the entire story, how the player acquired them is almost just as important, otherwise you end up with CVs).

by bearded thundar on Jun 2, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions

good numbers

I believe you are right. Houston does know about Lowry better than anyone else and he will most likely remain on their team. Thanks for the information. The thing I like is when looking at his RPG, you can see he has a knack for the ball and has some sort of hustle factor in his game. He also plays defense and is the lesser known of restricted free agents this year, so I am jumping on his bandwagon. :-)

by Fletcher, Irwin M. on Jun 2, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Duhon was historically bad this year.

And on a a team where he wasn’t even required to give any effort on an entire side of the floor. No, no, no, no, no, no. Get that stupid shit out of your head. He had multiple stretches of games where he literally shot 0% from the floor. On the Knicks.

by The Joel on Jun 3, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs