Draft Day: A MFNightmare Or A Dream Come True?
by Packey on Jun 24, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
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PrintInstead of the normal links today (there's really nothing new out there), I have to share with everybody something that happened to me last night/early this morning.
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I returned home late last night, done with class for the week until Monday. I made a dramatic entrance into my apartment as if I was Bob Saget in Full House, simultaneously calling for my fiance. I was a bit miffed to see all the lights off and no fiance waiting for our Wednesday night business time. I reached for the light switch and flipped it on. What I saw before me, sitting cross-legged in my living room, nearly made me scream like Schrader in the movie 'Accepted.'
It was Cole Aldrich and he was wearing a Pistons jersey.
He was just sitting there, staring back and forth between a blank canvas the size of my big screen TV and a 16x20 of this picture. He acted as if he didn't know I was there. I tip-toed around the corner to get a knife from my kitchen, but as I was about to enter, I caught a glimpse of Joe Dumars spoon feeding a middle-aged man what looked like some Calcium Gummy Vitamins, but the only open jar on the counter read, "Grit and Toughness." I recognized the man, it was Keith Langlois.
They looked so loving and peaceful, I didn't want to disturb them, so I turned back to face the gumpy intruder in my living room. When I took one step toward Aldrich, his head snapped toward me, causing me to jump back. He gave me a shit-eating, toothless grin and stared without blinking for the longest five seconds of my life. And then he softly whispered:
"You will draft me with the seventh pick."
Scared out of my senses, I started to urinate myself.
The empty canvas turned out to actually be my TV because all of a sudden Stuart Scott, with his stink-eye, appeared out of nowhere. He started talking about the cool side of a pillow and other stuff in ebonics. He spoke for a few seconds before the screen suddenly turned to white noise.
An orange ring came into focus. It looked like a basketball rim, but I couldn't be sure. Meanwhile, Cole Aldrich kept repeating, "everyone will suffer," creepier each time. The ring on TV faded to black.
Once I completely finished pissing myself, I realized what this all meant. It was like that movie, The Ring, but not exactly. I thought my life was about to flash before my eyes, but instead, it was Joe Dumars' career as GM. I reached the grand conclusion: the 7th pick is going to kill us...
Next thing I know, I sprung up from my pillow in a nervous sweat, stripped of all hope and clothes. I gathered my bearings and let out a relieved, "phew!" It was just a Ekpe Udoh nightmare.
I got out of bed and put on my teal Pistons shorts. I searched for my new, lucky, draft day Jonas Jerebko t-shirt, but settled for a Walter Sharpe cut-off. I cautiously crept into the other room where I thought I saw Joe Dumars, Keith Langlois, and Cole Aldrich the night before. The room was empty.
I walked over to my computer area where my fiance usually leaves me a note when she leaves for work while I'm still asleep. There was a note, but it wasn't from my fiance. Strangely enough, it was from Bill Simmons and I knew this because there was a little picture of his stupid face next to his sportsguy33 screen name.
When I read the note, I ignored burning questions like "WTF was Bill Simmons doing in my apartment and why is he leaving me a note?" and began to feel my body fill up with a positive attitude:.
I let out a half smile, kissed the tips of my forefinger and middle finger, and gently touched the note. I then went to the kitchen and poured myself a bowl of Cookie Crisp.
/Fin
It's Draft Day, DBB. May Jod have mercy on our souls and make this, or something else totally awesome, happen today. Otherwise, Mike Payne will make us all cry.
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Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 24, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
NOT THE RED X! NOOOOO
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by The Boourns on Jun 24, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm scared.
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by MaxiellEatsLittleOnes on Jun 24, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions
I like that little butt you put in your signature
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
Better than my dream
I dreamed we drafted a SG that was projected to go in the 2nd round….I just got really mad. And then woke up, thank God.
I don’t know how Simmons thinks we’re going to pull this off.. but every news source is basically saying a trade up is dead. But you can never know what new ideas GM’s will propose last minute…
Also better than my dream
Which was about another Bambi movie, this time focused on his girlfriend, who was kidnapped by giant sentient bees.
I had a nightmare, too.
It was about tornados.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 24, 2010 9:33 AM EDT reply actions
Same here, it started off at the draft where we took Aminu with the 7th.
Next thing I knew, I was on my way to prison after being framed for the slaying of Joe D.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 24, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Tough dream
What was the sentence? (Notice I didn’t ask about the verdict, heh.)
800 hours community service.
The judge was a lifelong Pistons fan.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 24, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Happy Draft Day MFs (Motown's finest)
I’m trying to keep a positive outlook on today. No matter who we take, the bitching can wait until tomorrow. Today, I want to welcome two new Pistons into the fold.
My two favorite teams are the Tigers and Brewers. Drunk tigers. That sounds about right.
Me in 140 characters
David Kahn on The Dan Patrick Show this morning...
Said nothing about the Pistons and/or trading Al Jefferson to Detroit.
Denied reports saying Minny wanted to move up in the draft.
Smoke...Screen
Or he’s just fucking retarded and forgot. Ronzone will remind him this afternoon after the deal is complete.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 24, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I vote A) just fucking retarded and forgot
For a mentally deficient dude with sleep apnea, you actually gotta hand it to him, looka all those picks
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Why I think Aldrich projects as a good pro
According to Position Adjusted Win Score, he’s the 2nd best C in the draft. Art’s up there as well at #3. He’d be a steal in the 2nd.
Here’s the list for PFs. Ed Davis tops this list, interestingly, which goes against everything I’ve seen from him when I’ve watched him.
How does that mean he projects to be a good pro?
Isn’t that using college numbers?
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Yes, it is using his college numbers. But the numbers he put up that cause him to be rated highly — relatively high FG% and rebounding — usually translate well into the pros.
I might not know PAWS that well
Is FG% in the equation? Why not just use those numbers that translate well instead of PAWS? PAWS also incorporates PTS, STL, BLK, AST, FTA, FGA, TO, & PF, right?
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Why can’t I flip the question?
Instead of using all of those numbers individually, why not just one single number that aggregates all of the stats that are related to wins and use it?
I’m not saying Aldirhc will be an All Star. I don’t think he will. He’ll be a rotation big in his first year, and may or may not develop into a starting player in 2-3 years. But I think he’s the safest pick in that I think his bust potential is really low relative to Davis and Monroe, and will be the best CENTRE available at #7. I don’t want a project, and I don’t want another PF. We currently don’t have a C on the roster, and if a young, cheap, and probably productive one is available, why not take him?
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Instead of using all of those numbers individually, why not just one single number that aggregates all of the stats that are related to wins and use it?
Because, as you said yourself, two of all those numbers usually translate well into the pros – not all of them. The aggregation is unnecessary IMO, but it’s a minor carp, I guess.
But I think he’s the safest pick in that I think his bust potential is really low relative to Davis and Monroe, and will be the best CENTRE available at #7. I don’t want a project, and I don’t want another PF. We currently don’t have a C on the roster, and if a young, cheap, and probably productive one is available, why not take him?
1. They’re all relatively young and will be the same “cheap.” If it was certain that he’d be productive then I’d answer your question with “yeah, why not?”
2. What’s your definition of ‘project’? I’ve been under the assumption the Pistons are looking for a guy who can make an impact right away, possibly by starting with their Top 10 pick. “May or may not develop into a starting player in 2-3 years,” sounds an awful lot like a project player that may or may not have a high potential for busting before his rookie K expires.
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two of all those numbers usually translate well into the pros – not all of them.
The two stats that typically translate well to the pros- rebounding and scoring efficiency, are very highly valued by PAWS. The other numbers aren’t useless though, so a stat that weights them (IMO) accurately seems useful.
I agree that simpler stats are still important to include individually in prospect analysis because if a player is very weak in certain categories it might be a red flag (i.e. for a PF/C prospect, a very low block rate is usually a bad sign… *cough… Monroe… cough *)
No I said the things that make him stand out according to PAWS. He excels in multiple areas as Gabe already showed in a fanpost. I didn’t repeat that because he said that already.
And of course they are all the same cheap. They are not all centres. You took one phrase from a complete thought and hence missed my point completely, which is that we an get a rotation centre on a heap deal, which we need because we don’t have a centre. We already have two PFs right?
None of this matters anyway. We aren’t drafting him. Monroe or Davis. Damnit.
Regarding project. What’s with the selective reading? Did you miss the rotation big part? Isn’t a rotation player making an impact by definition?
by brgulker on Jun 24, 2010 3:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And of course they are all the same cheap. They are not all centres. You took one phrase from a complete thought and hence missed my point completely, which is that we an get a rotation centre on a heap deal, which we need because we don’t have a centre. We already have two PFs right?
No I didn’t completely miss your point. We’re talking about who the Pistons should draft at no. 7 where the salaries are set. You don’t think Monroe can play Centre because he’s a quarter inch shorter in shoes? He’s listed as a 4/5 but the Pistons obviously see him as a center. And a better one than Aldrich at that.
None of this matters anyway. We aren’t drafting him. Monroe or Davis. Damnit.
Then why do you go on and ask me more questions…
Regarding project. What’s with the selective reading? Did you miss the rotation big part? Isn’t a rotation player making an impact by definition?
There was no selective reading. It’s a simple question. What is your definition of project? I made it pretty abundantly clear that my impression is the Pistons want an instant impact guy, possibly a starter. You say that Aldrich might not even be a starter in 2-3 years!? That screams PROJECT with bust potential. I don’t see how a guy with low bust potential is a “may or may not start in 2-3 years,” guy. I don’t think the Pistons want to draft a tenured rotational big at the frickin’ 7 spot. I at least hope they have bigger plans with this pick than that.
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the Pistons obviously see him as a center. And a better one than Aldrich at that.
And the Pistons thought a narcoleptic PF, who they planned to convert into a SF (a position he had never played), and had only participated in 12 college games in two years was a better prospect than DeAndre Jordan or Bill Walker…
Monroe’s numbers translate really poorly at C. He’s strongest in areas that are usually most useful in wing players, and softest in the areas that are most useful for bigs. I could see that package maybe working at PF, but at C, the chances go down considerably. Just imagine a CV/Monroe frontcourt trying to defend the paint against NBA caliber bigs and slashing guard/forwards. It’s not a pretty thought.
my impression is the Pistons want an instant impact guy, possibly a starter
Obviously every team wants an “instant impact guy,” if by “instant impact” you mean; more than just a useful part of a rotation. But there are very, very, very few players who are that productive right off the bat.
Aldrich is a good bet to contribute immediately, and if everything goes well, develop into a good starting C. I’ll happily take that.
Yeah, I really don’t like Monroe either, but I’m trying to put myself into Jod’s head, which is admittedly hard to do. If they can’t somehow land Cousins I’d almost rather the MN trade down or Udoh because he’s a beast defensively.
I also just don’t agree with how high everyone is on Aldrich around here. But that’s fine. I’ll be happy to have brgulker and co. feed me crow like the sloppy joe lady in Billy Madison if he turns into a productive contributor.
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A trade down is hopefully happening if Cousins really isn’t gettable.
IMHE, Aldrich/Whiteside in the 1st round. Varnado or Art in the 2nd=
haha
That’s cool. And if Aldrich is the pick I’m a Pistons fan so I’m down to accept it and knock out one of my teeth to be just like him when I play pick up, but I’m allowed to pray against it and have sweaty, piss inducing nightmares about it beforehand, I think. It’s not lookin’ like he will be the pick though, so I guess this really doesn’t matter as mfgulks already said.
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Crow tastes good with sea salt ;)
by brgulker on Jun 24, 2010 5:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
himalayan pink sea salt, specifically
Uh, me, new?
by Mike Payne on Jun 24, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I was wrong about Curry. Gave you grief about him on Twitter all last year. I was wrong about the kid.
ah yeah
I completely forgot about that. That was a battle you shouldn’t have picked, though. I had been watching him play since the first day he came on Davidson’s campus.
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So hard to edit. Hence he question after what looked like the end of h post. Project = Guy who might become a solid contributer but also might bust completely. Aldrich is very unlikely to bust, very likely to be a solid rotation contributor, and pretty likely to become a starter (on our roster he is the starter by default).
To me that is not a project. You know just what you will get.
Monroe definitely is. Davis I just don’t know enough about to make a guess.
by brgulker on Jun 24, 2010 5:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
cool
that’s all I was asking. I disagree because I think Aldrich could bust completely – but that’s just a difference of opinion. No biggie.
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Gettin all fancy with the british spelling are we (CENTRE)?
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by The Boourns on Jun 24, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
heh heh...you said lexicon
In truth, I’m Scottish-Canadian although I would never admit it publicly.
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by The Boourns on Jun 24, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that I have him spelling centre, he’s one step closer to becoming Canadian…. mwahahaha…….
by garrettelliott on Jun 24, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
AOL FanHouse is reporting that the Celtics "have been dangling center Kendrick Perkins and their No. 19 pick to teams with high lottery picks."
Would number 7 be enough? I think we’ve all decided that Perkins is a real player. And most agree that the drop after the first five or six picks is substantial. Lots of potentially good big guys will be around later in the draft.
I’d consider it, me…
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jun 24, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions
I think we’d be sticking it to Boston by making the trade. I’d call it a plan C. Plan A: Cousins, Plan B: jefferson 16th and 23rd.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 24, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t mean stick it to them in the sense that they’d be screwed. I meant more in the sense of, let’s not deal with Boston out of spite, if they think the #7 helps them (regardless of if it does or doesn’t).
Yeah, I'd do Wilcox and the 7th for Perkins.and the 19th.
I’d probably do it even without the 19th. I think Perkins is the best defensive Center in the league right now. Maybe a healthy Yao is better. Dwight is overrated.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 24, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilcox and Paul George for Perkins
Wilcox and Greg Monroe for Perkins
Wilcox and Ed Davis for Perkins
Wilcox and Cole Aldrich for Perkins
Now that I think about it, Celtics would be idiots to do that.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 24, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Does it not concern you that he screwed up his knee in Game 6?
Isn’t he having to do some off-season surgery?
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by The Boourns on Jun 24, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a concern...
…but he was hands down the best defensive Center in the league and he only costs 4mil (although he’s due for an extension).
by Quick Darshan on Jun 24, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd do it
Only if Perkins hadn’t screwed his knee. He should come back fine, but there is always that iffy factor with big guys and knees.
Well, there was the bit that you missed where I distracted him with the cuddly monkey then I said "play time's over" and I hit him in the head with the peace lily.
Good luck in the Draft MFDBB
I will be an hour from waking when the pick goes down, so fingers crossed there is some good news.
Well, there was the bit that you missed where I distracted him with the cuddly monkey then I said "play time's over" and I hit him in the head with the peace lily.
I had a dream last night to
People were playing a game that resembled rugby on a football field. There was a blue team and a red team, I was rooting for the blue team. There was an intense fight for the ball(which was more like a white bag of sand) and after a huge pile up a member of the blue teams comes out with it as the fans scream in joy. Then the player begins to pour a strong stream of piss onto the field and drops a pile of shit. Yes, our winner had just accidentally gone to the bathroom right then and there. The stadium goes quiet and the cameras quickly go away from him as the announcer start talking about something completely unrelated. Then I wake up.
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
I hit my finger with a machete...
and it wasn’t a dream.
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I seem to remember people being pretty laid back about the draft about a month ago
While the majority agreed that losing that couple of games and getting into the top 4 would have been ideal, most had come to accept the 7th pick and felt comfortable with some of the guys there. While there were a lot of debates of should have been the guy, most people felt that the one they were pulling for was gonna be a positive for the Pistons. Then these last couple of days happened, we were allowed to hope we could get Cousins and suddenly all went to hell.
I had a point I was gonna make but I forgot. Carry on.
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I seem to remember people being pretty laid back about the draft about a month ago
You’ve already forgotten my MFMeltdown? I’m hurt, Kriz. To the core.
Uh, me, new?
Later I said that most had comme to accept how things played out.
Most is not all.
YOUR too MF sensitive today MFMP.
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i wasnt too worried about the draft
i was mad that we won three meaningless games and threw a wrench into our lottery position but at the time i wasnt aware of how mediocre this draft was after the top 5-6 picks. all this cousins trade talk and the obvious realization that he is the guy we need has really driven the point home now though. ill still watch the draft but if we are still picking 7th and dont make any moves im not going to be excited about whatever joker we grab.
maybe it has to do with being new (at least in this decade) to lottery land
well except for darko actually. so maybe traumatized too.
but yeah, those stupid wins sure do hurt a lot more now.
The Darko pick wasn't vital to our success
…as we saw by winning the championship that year with Darko picking splinters out of his ass. We knew that whoever we took with that pick would only see limited minutes off the bench. Tonight’s pick has the potential to come in and start from day one and have a huge impact on the franchise.
by handsomerob1 on Jun 24, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm totally ready for the draft.
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by Packey on Jun 24, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I love Mike McGraw
7. Detroit Pistons – DeMarcus Cousins, PF/C, Kentucky: Last summer’s free agent signings of Charlie Villanueva(notes) and Chris Wilcox(notes) didn’t do much for the Pistons. So expect Detroit to snag whoever is left among Cousins, Greg Monroe and Ed Davis. Cousins comes with plenty of questions, such as whether he’ll control his weight and cut down on outbursts directed at his coach. That’s why there’s always a chance he’ll drop to this spot.
Best Regards,
Rami.
no chance anymore
both Sacremento and GS have said that they will draft him if he’s available.
Kinda behind on these things buddy, a lot of what you said are really old news
by bearded thundar on Jun 24, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
SMOKE SCREEN!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
and...
this was his “latest” draft he updated for tonight and still thinks Cousins will fall.
Best Regards,
Rami.
I think its time to focus on what's important
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oh gawd
Rasheed Wallace wore busted AF1s, a wings jersey and a wrestling belt…
Fuck that bourgeois LV shit kid, get your weight up Daye Daye
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by Skylar on Jun 24, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m actually on the Aldrich bandwagon just because I think he’s the absolute safest pick for a good-enough big man without any question marks. Other players might turn out better than he is, but I just want safety right now. Someone hold me.
sadly, probably not going to happen
Derry commented that at least from he’s heard, the Pistons have zero intentions on drafting Aldrich
by bearded thundar on Jun 24, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
happy birthday kriz!
don’t let joe ruin it.
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Feliz Cumpleanos Kriz
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battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
Oh man, how did I not notice the FotC video?
A thousand recs for that.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 24, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
GM's, The Media, and Smokescreens
The stuff has gotten out of hand. We all read the “rumors” and “reports” and think something is going to happen. Isn’t it strange that the stuff that actually happens was almost never the subject of “rumors” prior to it happening?
GM’s know that when something gets out it is going to affect everything. They obviously leak stuff on purpose. So, when the whole world knows Minny wants Johnson it isn’t that strange that all of a sudden New Jersey has interest in Johnson.
What does provide me with the slimmest of hopes for tonight is after all the “reports” come out that Cousins is the Pistons first choice, all of a sudden Sacremento and Golden State both say they’re going to take Cousins. Prior to that, neither was overly interested.
Then, after “reports” come out that the Pistons like Udoh better than Monroe, now Golden State likes Udoh better than Monroe.
I’m not saying Cousins will fall to No. 7, but I think there is still a chance. Certainly, we can’t believe anything we read about who teams like (except for Minny becaue Kahn is out of his league). If we’re reading it, it is because they want us to be reading it.
We still have a few hours to be hopeful, so we might as well use it.
I never saw a report that said the Pistons favored Udoh over Monroe.
Everywhere I’ve seen they’ve been higher on Monroe.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 24, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
More recently there were rumors that if Monroe and Udoh were on the board, JoD was leaning towards Udoh
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Right
and right after that, all of a sudden GS is reportedly higher on Udoh than Monroe.
I've only seen reports of Dumars leaning Monroe if he's still on the board.
I’ve seen Udoh over Davis, but not Udoh over Monroe.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 24, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
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GREAT POST!!!! It was really funny man.
Welcome back Fadel!
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Everyone wants Aldrich now cuz he's silly.
Cole Aldrich was the star of the media day yesterday. His personality changes his outlook completely for me.Most underrated player in draft?
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I just watched Aldrich's interview.
It definitely makes you like him as a prospect. He’s very well-spoken, seems extremely self-aware as far as his skills and talents go, and seems utterly coachable. I’m still (and always have been) of the camp that not only likes Aldrich at #7 but would actually prefer him to anyone not named Cousins— you can just tell he’s not going to “bust.” I think at worst he’s another Joakim Noah in two years.
I agree with The Joel (as per usual).
by garrettelliott on Jun 24, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree too.
It seems that everyone here wants Aldrich but every Piston fan poll I see (including the one on this site) has Piston fans favoring Monroe.
by Quick Darshan on Jun 24, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, I thought We = Pistons fans.
Are we Raptor fans or something now?
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 24, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Atlanta meet up.
I’m headed there now. If anybody from DBB is from Atlanta, hope to see you there.
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Simmons also said that Ramon Sessions sucks
I totally imagined the Sports Guy waking up with a knife to his throat, and an enraged MP demanding he take it back.
"Wait a minute! That's insane! They're total liars. I kept my mouth shut when Dean said he could read Sanskrit, and when Hank said he wanted a piece of him, I was like 'Fine. Whatever.', but Mecha-Shiva? No way! They are so lying, I'm innocent!"
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