Reasons to Get Drunk and Surly Tonight
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 5, 2010 7:06 PM EDT
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This is will also serve as your Finals Game 2 Thread.
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Lakers in 6, btw, is my prediction. I didn't do a full preview. Reason: Meh.
Abbreviated Preview: Injuries, matchups, revenge. RONDO! Gasol?
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ESPN.com has a new Free Agent Slot Machine. It is the least entertaining thing since Hope Floats. ESPN has had some success with their highly entertaining trade machine, as well as they (less) entertaining draft lottery machine.
Those items combine the whimsy of gambling with hard facts. The Free Agent machine combines randomness with conjecture. It reminds me of Obama's domestic policy. Ba-zing.
I'm here all week, folks... All. Week.
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Meant to mention this earlier, but Wages of Wins echoes my sentiments exactly on the potential of the top draft targets, and John Wall in particular. Basically, as top three picks in the NBA draft go, John Wall is unspectacular.
It boils down to this. Derrick Rose was better in college. Derrick Rose, while having justified his number one pick in a mediocre draft, is not yet a superstar. Wall projects to be nominally worse.
By my lights, DeMarcus Cousins is the prize in this draft. If a team isn't going to draft him, they should strongly consider trading the pick.
I'm not saying you trade him for Larry Hughes, but if you can land a star in exchange for swapping picks? And no, Portland, LaMarcus Aldridge doesn't count.
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Speaking of Cousins, ESPN reported that the Nets turned down a trade that would have sent them Michael Beasley in exchange for Keyon Dooling. Yikes.
Keep that in the back of your mind when you hear that teams have questions about DeMarcus Cousins, even though his worse transgression seems to be that he's a knucklehead. Two years ago, Michael Beasley and Gilbert Arenas were just knuckleheads. Tyrus Thomas is a knucklehead. Monta Ellis is a knucklehead.
Knucklehead matters.
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Did I do a good job of talking him down, there?
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Chris Wilcox is back! I was the first to bemoan the player option, although that may play into our favor. Combined with Prince's expiring, the Pistons can now take just about any contract back in return.
Alternately, he could play better basketball and earn a rotation spot. You know, that whole thing.
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Prediction: Rajon Rondo will come into next season as a sleeper MVP candidate. He will "struggle" (i.e. match last year's production) and the sportswriter class will consider him a disappointment.
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i've never wanted
to fight anyone so badly in my life. it would be just as believable if dude was saying “kid rape” with a “k” around his neck. douuuuuuuuuuuuuuuche! great moving gif tho, total win.
Uh, me, new?
I lol’d at the gif and then lol’d at MFMP’s response. DBB is the best.
by garrettelliott on Jun 5, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That's Kenny Powers' brother.
Benny Powers
by TDP on Jun 5, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m all for ribbing Canada, but leave John Candy out of it.
by TDP on Jun 5, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, we’re nice and stuff! And we have bacon.
by garrettelliott on Jun 5, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
i think i stick to the favorites too much
i’ll go to my local beer boutique and pick up 5 of my favorites and one new beer. Maybe I should change that ratio. I’ll look for those too, if only I can properly pronounce them. But that’s half the fun, isn’t it? :)
Uh, me, new?
well, i’m in Naples until September 1, so less-than-optimal. However, there’s a chain here called “Total Wines” that is pretty fucking unreal. Honestly, likely the best selection of wine I’ve ever seen, and a damn good selection of beer. The individual bottle selection is nowhere near as good as it was at John’s Grocery in Iowa City, but that was a top 10 beer store in the US according to BeerAdvocate.com. Yet I’m able to find my personal favorites. I grabbed a few bottles of Duchesse De Bourgogne, Piraat, Gulden Draak, St. Bernardus, Allagash White, etc. I get most of what I want.
One of my other passions (and also of my brother-from-another Skylar) is vintage mopeds (okay, motorcycles in Skylar’s case), and I actually joined a vintage (60s and 70s) moped rally. We’re doing 80 miles on the 23rd of July, all along the coast of Florida, from Naples to Sanibel Island (via Fort Myers Beach) and back. Picture 35 MFers on ridiculous old school Austrian mopeds carving up the turf at 30 miles per hour. totally fucking ridiculously nerdy. I’m PUMPED. So far, Florida has pretty much everything I’ve wanted and a whole lot more.
Uh, me, new?
also
Allagash White single-handedly makes American beer the best fucking thing on the market. That shit is fucking mana from god.
Uh, me, new?
I'm In Miami Quite A Bit This Summer
So..c’mon down if you like.
by V. on Jun 6, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, is Tom Thibodeau pulling a Larry Brown? Why do coaches have to do that stuff while their team is in the NBA FINALS?!? It seems like he should be able to say, “If you really want me, you’ll have to wait until after we win the championship…..”
For some reason, I always thought Tom Thibodeau was black. Evidently that’s Clifford Ray. I feel so damn silly!
Toodles!
by TDP on Jun 5, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and I forgot
SO pumped to see you’re coming around to that fellow you pictured, Kevin. I knew you’d see the logical basis to how he’s a potentially right fit for this team. Unless that was sarcasm, in which case— your religion frowns upon you, sinner!
Uh, me, new?
Cousins scare moment
Watching a game in PR, the center battle is Tractor Taylor vs Mike Sweetney. Mike Sweetney looks like he ate Shaq. I mean, Tractor looks small.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
Oh man. That’s brutal. Someone needs to send these images to DeMarcus (unless we can’t draft him, then it doesn’t matter to me). Here’s a sweet before and after. It doesn’t even look like the same person!
by garrettelliott on Jun 5, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I don't know about you guys but I never get surly when I'm drunk.
In fact, it’s usually when I’m my happiest!
If I ever wrote for this website, I’d talk about reasons to get drunk and joyful!
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 6, 2010 2:55 AM EDT reply actions
You obviously don’t sprinkle crystal meth into your beers…
by TDP on Jun 6, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’ll never forget the day Matt W. introduced me to meth. I spent all night painting a portrait of Jason Maxiell. It now hangs in a local day care.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 6, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If It Makes You Feel Better
The Rip, Max or Wilcox and #7 for Brand and the #2 is so obvious, even Dumars will probably offer it to Philly.
Another possibility..sign and trade for DLee.
I don't see why Philly does Rip/Max/7 for Brand/2
For one thing, they’d owe the same money (Rip for $37 million, Max for $15 million vs. Brand for $51 million, all three year deals).
So you don’t save any money.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 6, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Another reason Chris Bosh should never be a Piston
From Hoopshype
Chris Bosh: Doing a little shopping today. Women’s fashion is very expensive. Shoes, bags and dresses are crazy.
Is it Chris, or Christine?
Well, there was the bit that you missed where I distracted him with the cuddly monkey then I said "play time's over" and I hit him in the head with the peace lily.
You love it Chris, you know you do.
Well, there was the bit that you missed where I distracted him with the cuddly monkey then I said "play time's over" and I hit him in the head with the peace lily.
by Laughton on Jun 6, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It's like when he is not playing the machine goes to standby mode.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
My Demarcus Cousins obsession just got sad
I dreamed last night we drafted him. I cried in said dream
And I was a hitman.
That is so weird!
I just got off the phone with “an NBA source close to the discussions” and he said there is no way in hell that happens. He said they thought about it and decided they didn’t want to take a 30 percent pay cut and play 48 minutes a game.
How come these experts can’t agree?
I expected Bosh to go to Miami with Wade, but I can’t see LeBron joining in.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Sources say I've got the abs of a greek God and the cock of a mule.
This isn’t gonna happen, because, historically, it just doesn’t make sense. Lebron has got the skills to be the “best ever”, so why would he go play with people where the perception is going to be, “He didn’t win jack shit until he got with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh”? If that was the case, then I think Wade would still be the man in the room, with Lebron just getting pissy.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jun 6, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah if they go to miami its still going to be wade’s team. regardless of skills, lebron will be second fiddle to wade. people would see it as lebron riding wade’s (already a proven winner) coat-tails. if they go to another then this team up seems more likely, but still pretty unbelievable. i cant wait till this shit is over with. im sick of the rampant ego-mania thats on display here.
why are the clippers advertising season tickets right now on abc?
by don'tworryaboutit on Jun 6, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone read the interview with JVG the other day where he was saying he thought the NBA should get rid of fouling out? It’s interesting especially when you see a guy like Kobe get a bogus offensive foul and have to sit.
does he say that it should go back to the old school way where every foul over 6 you get 2 shots and the ball?
He basically said it should stay the way it is except guys shouldn’t be able to foul out. The only time your superstars should be off the court is to get a breather, because that’s who people want to watch.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
There would need to be something to discourage more reckless fouls though..
by Taiwanese Tora on Jun 6, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
How much longer are playoff halftimes than regular season halftimes
Twice as long?
And that was a big three by Kobe at the end of the half.
Especially when the replays show it’s clearly not a foul. And sometimes not even close to being a foul. Kobe’s last one where Rondo tumbled out of bounds wildly is a prime example.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah that was lame, and as much as i hate to give pierce anything his block on artest was squeaky clean.
Definitely. So was Big Baby’s. I think the refs are worried about it getting too physical, so any confrontation at the rim is a defensive foul.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ha i bet its all shot in windsor or L.A. that hung show was set in detroit but other than a couple shots its all shot in LA.
Just read the pilot was filmed in Atlanta but now that the show has been picked up they might move to Detroit to film.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
This game reminded me of an onion piece
Neither Kobe nor Pierce have done a good job shooting, but the side members of the core are really stepping up. That, and I just happen to have restumbled upon the image and thought you guys would like it.
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
that really should not have worked
But I’m glad it did
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
"you can't teach this"
It’s fundamentally sound. Well if it’s based off fundamentals, and not based off instincts, then why the hell wouldn’t you be able to teach it?
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
He wants to be a head coach, doesn’t he?
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
same here
Rodney really needs to go to the post more. He’s got the size and actually showed some decent footwork last year
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
hakeem’s made himself available to help players right? i would love to see rodney post up as a PG/SG
by don'tworryaboutit on Jun 6, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
if ewing can’t help dwight, i highly doubt hakeem can though
by don'tworryaboutit on Jun 6, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Hakeem was better
Especially in the post. Ewing was known for his face up game more so than his post game (at least from what I’ve gathered, not my era)
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he's got Ewing
They hired him as an assistant coach.
Dwight seems to just have nerve problems. I don’t understand how you can make full court shots in warm up but not hit 10 foot elbow jumpers in the game, unless if you have some serious anxiety issues (which might be the case with Big Ben; his shooting form is great every but at the line)
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
airball?
How do you set an NBA record for 3s and then airmail one?
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
at least they know when to throw in make up calls
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
noooooooooooo
pick something else, preferably a cigar. much cleaner and doesn’t fuck with the balance of endorphins in your brain like weed
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
why can't mlb have instant replay late in the games
Then we wouldn’t have any more blown perfect games
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
and of course, they still blow the call
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah its funny when they talk about replay slowing down the speed of the game in the mlb. baseball already moves at a snails pace.
Someone on a forum one time had an awesome suggestion — just have a veteran ref sitting in a booth watching everything on monitors for the entire game. If the floor refs have any issues, they communicate with the monitor guy through wireless mics or something and get him to give them the final verdict. How hard could that be?
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Valenti mentioned that last week
Instant replay is about the only thing that the NHL got right; the MLB and NBA would be wise to copy them in that respect
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
essentially
The refs basically call up the front office, where a crew is watching all the games. On a penalty, play will continue until either a score or the possession is turned over. In short, you will almost always get the call right without disrupting the game too much
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds like a great way to do it. Maybe the NBA will get on board in a few more years. It would be much faster having a crew of experts give you the true call than having the refs meet at centre court to break out the monitor and headphones.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
not entirely true
It only moves at a snails pace if you don’t understand the game very well. The more you understand the minor nuances in the game, the more you appreciate them and the faster the games go
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
fair enough, i dont know much about baseball at all. it does seem to move very slowly to me but im sure you are right. any sport is boring if you have no clue whats happening.
Except rugby. I have no idea what’s happening and it’s still kind of exciting seeing some little dude running for his life with the ball while 20 guys try to destroy him.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
and UFC. That shit is straight up hardcore. Even more hardcore than porn
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i always wonder if i took the time to research and understand soccer if i would enjoy it. when i watch it now i find it really really boring to watch.
agreed. At least with baseball every pitch can make an impact on the game, which is why it can be exciting despite the little scoring. In soccer, the ball is turned over so much that many possessions are just meaningless to the final score
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
there must be some over-all strategy to soccer where if you are an informed fan you can follow the game better. people all over the world love that shit so immensely that there gotta be something going on that i just dont get.
because it’s very vulgar and physical; that’s about it (just look at how dangerous it gets in the stands during the world cup). We have our football, they have their futball
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I can say this
Of all the sports I have watched live, football was by far the best experience. This including watching the Yankees live the last year at the old Yankee stadium and getting to watch my favorite player (Bernie Williams) for the first and last time.
(yeah, I know everyone hates the Yankees but for me it was a great experience)
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
not this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFv2YpRuOYc
by don'tworryaboutit on Jun 6, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
what a dumbass
you wonder just how narcissistic society has become due to youtube
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't stand football anymore.
to many protections for the QB’s.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
My Blog: Strike Three Mechanics
I don’t get soccer, either. Obviously there’s something there but I don’t know the game well enough to appreciate what’s happening, I guess. Skylar posted an awesome Nike commercial on his Facebook page a while back that made me almost like soccer, though:
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think this necessarily changes the series
Ray Allen had to purchase god mode at his local GNC in order to keep the game close going into the 4th, that probably isn’t going to happen again. Pierce hasn’t been very good in the playoffs in general and KG just flat out looks wrong right now. Rondo is the only consistent player they have, and without him blocking that Fisher shot and hitting that elbow jumper, LA probably has the lead right now.
Yes Boston would have home court advantage, but I don’t think that necessarily means the series is entirely in their favor
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Brutal. Where’s the guy in the booth to over-ride the call on his wireless mic, dammit?!?
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though the Lakers have more Fts
In this 4th quarter the Celtics have been given every nudge to win the game.
Where in the world is Cheikh Samb?
Agreed. Although I want the Lakers to win so I’m a bit biased.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I came home, watched, fell asleep...
is the game boring or is it the 2 straight weeks of work?
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
My Blog: Strike Three Mechanics
good.
I was hoping our new work hours weren’t killing me that bad.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
My Blog: Strike Three Mechanics
has anybody else noticed how spotty his beard is?
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
My Blog: Strike Three Mechanics
known it for years
I had a better one when I was 14 (hence why I’m bearded thunder)
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
my facial hair is translucent.
except on my chin. But than again, I’m not allowed to have a beard.
My Music: Some Sorta Giant
My Blog: Strike Three Mechanics
I concede defeat.
I don’t understand it, I’ve had facial hair since I was 13 but can’t get the cross bars to grow in. Otherwise I totally would have grown this:
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you didn't notice it?
The rain and lightning was crazy from about 10 to 2. The thunder did not make for good yoga
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m actually visiting my parents right now (about an hour away from Windsor) and we had crazy winds and lightning last night, and then some hardcore rain around midnight I think but that was about it. I’m watching the Detroit news right now and it looks pretty scary.
by garrettelliott on Jun 6, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
we get a few a year, but hardly any touch the ground
by bearded thundar on Jun 6, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
TDP = The Dope Picture
Cool avatar
"The Lakers were favored 8 to 1 odds to beat the Pistons. Bullshit." - Bill Davidson, Championship parade, 2004
That was so God awful officiating.
Both ways, too.
Whistle happy in the first 3 quarters puts the Celtic big men in foul trouble.
Then some really bad foul calls helps the Celtics ice the game.
Both sides should bitch like crazy. Well, Boston a little less cause they won but still.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jun 6, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions
The knucklehead factor
Demarcus Cousins is gonna be alright because on this team, I think there’s some established order. Demarcus Cousins is definitely a knucklehead, but unlike Gilbert Arenas, he’s not the franchise player yet. Tyrus Thomas has been on all of those godawful unorganized Bulls teams, and Monta Ellis is on GS. I know that’s not an excuse, but to be fair, the inmates are kind of running the asylum over there. When S-Jax is your team captain, you’re gonna be crazy. Michael Beasley has some real issues, I think. Next season there’s gonna be a Beasley “the demons within” storyline.
the celtis have real grit
there was a fourth quarter moment when the breen guy was pondering the likelihood of a game 5. and doc rivers deserves credit for knowing whose # to call.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Jun 7, 2010 7:14 AM EDT reply actions
Boston's win makes the series more interesting
Plus Boston won behind good performances from Allen (who I like) and Rondo (who I am coming to respect) as opposed to the Pierce and KG, who annoy the hell out of me.
And in other news, some serious tornado action in areas near Toledo a couple of nights ago.
I love how when I go to this thread to see new posts, it automatically jumps to the comments section. And one of the first comments is that Lakers douche, so it ALWAYS pops up and it’s the first thing I see. Well played, Packey. Well played.
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"The Lakers were favored 8 to 1 odds to beat the Pistons. Bullshit." - Bill Davidson, Championship parade, 2004
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