Nets reportedly interested in Joe Dumars
by Matt Watson on Jul 5, 2010 6:26 PM EDT
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PrintGiven all the upheaval at the Palace lately -- what with so many long-time employees leaving, being fired or getting sued -- nothing should come as a surprise these days, but I will admit that today's report by Al Iannazzone of the Bergen Record that Joe Dumars interviewed with the Nets over the weekend caught me off guard
Iannazzone reports the Nets interviewed both Dumars and Hornets GM Jeff Bower, two executives for teams with extremely uncertain ownership situations. Dumars issued a denial of the report via email to Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press, but it makes you wonder if it's simply a matter of semantics -- maybe he didn't "interview," per se, but did he have a friendly phone conversation?
At this point we just don't know, although Ellis was able to confirm New Jersey's interest in Dumars through his own sources, which makes you think if there hasn't been contact yet, it's just a matter of time until it happens.
That's a scary thought, because objectively speaking, the Nets' job looks extremely enticing -- especially in terms of having a billionaire owner who's eager to make a splash in the New York market in anticipation of the Brooklyn move, has already promised to buy a championship within five years and has enough cap space to get a head start on that goal this summer. Despite the disaster that was last year, this is a young team with a very, very bright future.
And the Pistons? Well, they have a reluctant owner who never wanted to own a team in the first place and a muddled roster with as many declining (and expensive) veterans as encouraging bright spots. Remaining with the Pistons is hardly a dead-end situation, but realistically speaking, it also can't match the excitement of an immediate turnaround in a major market. (And let's face it -- if Mikhail Prokhorov is trying to lure Dumars away, he's not going to low-ball him on a contract. General managers with a championship on their resume don't grow on trees.)
Stay tuned -- until the Nets settle on a GM, fans in Detroit shouldn't take anything for granted.
UPDATE: The Pistons issued a press release with the following statement from Dumars: “In response to today’s media reports regarding the New Jersey Nets, I can say that I do not have any interest in a basketball operations position with the Nets. My priority is to continue leading the Pistons’ basketball operations efforts and putting together a team that is ready to compete and get back on track next season.”
So that's that.
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Timing is perfect for an exit.
An underwhelming draft with no trades, many DBB mouthpieces calling for his head and in some cases, calling him filthy names.. a mess of a roster- A mess Dumars could potentially walk away from, and make more money doing so to go to another team.
I’m definitely not taking anything for granted. Never have.
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
Skylar what up haven't seen ya on POD lately...
This is Joe D’s team assembled or disassembled he won’t walk the blood in Detroit is to thick,
he may not have that 04 team but he does have Jonas, Stuckey, Daye, Monroe, White and vets like Prince, Rip, Max, Ben, Wilcox, CV and Gordon. Some will have a role on this team and some on another team, Joe will be around until the wheels fall off and though there lose as hell ain’t nothing a wench and WD40 can’t fix.
Right, because he has never put together a winner before.
Everybody knows it was all Hammond. Either that or he got lucky. That’s how it goes right?
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
by Kriz on Jul 5, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I thought he sold his soul to Al Pacino
and by Al Pacino, I mean the devil.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
yes he did and it was a LONG time ago, he took part in it but he did get incredibly lucky a few times, i say ppl on DBB need to stop giving him free pass for an infinite amount of years because we happened to win with him as a GM in 2004, that’s the same guy who said ben gordon is an impact player last year after he signed him? lol please…
I'd say you dont hang enough around DBB if you think people give him a free pass here.
It has been made abundantly clear around these parts that Joe is an idiot who got lucky in trades and by having Hammond clearly make the good decisions for him while keeping him from the disasters he was bound to make. All of which is irrelevant because it happened so long ago and this is clearly a “what have you done for me lately” job.
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
I’d say people’s opinions of Joe here are mixed, but speaking as someone down on Dumars it is a lot more about "what have you done for me lately" than it is about “lucky trades” and a “string-pulling hammond”.
Personally, I think Hammond played an important role in Dumars’ successes during the EC dominance days, but Joe is the one who pulled the trigger. I think his trades were brilliant, not lucky, until the AI debacle. I think he’s made a string of bad decisions but the success he had from 2000 to 2007 are Hall of Fame worthy. He should be equally lauded for his success and criticized for his failures.
The string of bad decisions have gone on long enough to put both his job security and fan support into question. IME, the critiques and complaints are well-warranted, and the vast majority are not as extreme as you suggest.
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by Mike Payne on Jul 5, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The extreme assumption is that he gets a free pass
And while for you it may be about his string of bad moves, the idea that Hammond was the mind behind the championship team and that a chunk of luck was also to be held responsible for his success has been thrown around enough for me to bring up as a response to Joe getting a free pass.
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
You often make much sense to me, Mike Payne.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jul 5, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
AI A Debacle?
I love Chauncey, but he needed a change in scenery. Actually, the real problem was that there was no better available coach than Flip when JD canned him.
But thanks for enlightening me about Vince Ellis. Never occurred to me that the guy actually has sources.
by V. on Jul 6, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions
rec'd
I think I started the whole Hammond thing, and I started it as a baseless theory, like, hey, this possibly could have happened, but we can’t really know for sure.
Still, the Bucks will be in the playoffs, and we’re a big question mark at the moment.
/fueltothefire’d
Welcome to fuckin' DBB, can be combative
Here at Detroitbadboys, memes are worth their weight in gold.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 6, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
welcome to 5 years ago
People here have criticized many of Dumar’s moves post McDyess, to the point that people have placed him on the same level of some of the worst GMs in the league. To say people here give him a free pass is just asinine, and in all fairness I would rather have him than a very select few GMs, consisting of SA’s, Houston’s, Miami’s (due to coaching advantage) and perhaps Pritchard, who recently got fired inexplicably but still did a great job with the draft. You could also argue Hammond, but he has said on record that Joe deserves credit for the championship and that he learned everything from our man.
Fact is everyone makes mistakes, it’s how you cleanup your mistakes that defines your success. In the past, Joe has done a very good job of admitting where he’s screwed up and shipping our trash away for nice returns, guys like Rodney White and Nazr Mohammad. Sure he may have overpaid Gordon and CV last year, but their deals are looking like nothing compared to what’s happening this year, so yes I do believe he does deserve somewhat of a free pass there (though I wish he would have gone after Boozer instead). Best of all, it’s looking like NY may still suck for the next decade, as Lee is a better player for Amare and yet they are essentially doing a direct swap and that Miami may possibly completely lose out if Wade goes to Chicago.
So in short, Dumars has his faults, but he has improved on his drafting imo and historically has been very good at cleaning up his mistakes. I doubt that we’ll ever see him get a Ben Wallace type guy for free ever and a Finals MVP for the MLE ever again, but I do have faith that he will reconstruct a solid contender. The question isn’t whether he can do it, but how long – and that’s what has a lot of fans pulling their hair, not so much that he is an awful GM.
by bearded thundar on Jul 5, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No Presti?
I’d take him over any GM in the league.
"Wait a minute! That's insane! They're total liars. I kept my mouth shut when Dean said he could read Sanskrit, and when Hank said he wanted a piece of him, I was like 'Fine. Whatever.', but Mecha-Shiva? No way! They are so lying, I'm innocent!"
-The Monarch
by Thom_not_Tom on Jul 5, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Presti is awesome.
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
Concur
But I still think Dumars is a Top 5-7 GM. A much better GM than Kupchak who works for Jerry Buss and was gifted Pau Gasol, and a much better one than Danny Ainge, who was gifted KG.
I like Presti a little better than the SA guys and Morey, but they’re all sharp.
by V. on Jul 6, 2010 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I still think Morey is better than Presti. Presti’s done a great job making the right young picks and getting supplementary pieces, but Morey’s somehow put together a team that was still 45 wins or so without the marquee player.
The top tier is still Morey, Presti, Pritchard, and the SA guys. Hammond is inching his way there.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 5, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
forgot him
Presti is in that elite club with RC Buford
by bearded thundar on Jul 6, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
i do think ben gordon is an impact player...
we’ll see this year if that’s true or not (whether you like ben gordon or not you KNOW he was impacted last year by injuries… look at his stats prior to his injury vs. after his injury – plus he got surgery at the end of the year).
CV on the other hand I have no idea.
To be fair Dumars has had his blunders – Darko, Charlie V, Nazr, and giving Rip an extension. On the other side, his distractors also have to be fair and note that he’s drafted Tay, Okur, Stuckey, and Jerebko; he dealt for Rip and Ben and Sheed; signed Billups and McDyess. Her at least was a part in not only bringing us a championship but keeping us competitive for a very long time. He also traded Billups, signed Gordon and drafted Monroe – things which we don’t know just yet whether it’s positive or negative until we judge the final product of this team in a year or two as he decided to rebuild.
Simply put, how many other GMs can you say have done as great a job as him as consistently? Have the last two years been terrible? Yea. The Lakers also had 3 years of hell before they got back up to being the team they are today – Kupchak held onto Bynum when ppl wanted him traded (similar to the way we all call for Stuckey to be traded); he turned Brown into Gasol, etc. In the end the Lakers and Kobe learned it was good to be patient with the GM as he made a lot of right decisions (as well as some bad ones) and didn’t make moves just to make ppl temporarily happy (i.e. trade Brown for a bag of peanuts; trading Bynum for Jason Kidd which would not have made them a championship team necessarily). I think we need to wait more than two years to all of a sudden call Dumars a shitty GM. If it lasts for two more years without any direction, then I’d agree.
by mannie32 on Jul 5, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
which is why Dumars is a much better than average GM
He’s never been allowed to dip into luxury tax, and yet he put together a championship caliber team. Had he been able to go over the threshold, we have a much deeper bench in 05-06, likely keep Memo on top of getting Dyess and as a result win probably 3 titles (likely being a 3-peat from 03-06)
by bearded thundar on Jul 5, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we need to wait more than two years to all of a sudden call Dumars a shitty GM
As a community, we’re far too passionate and educated to roundly accept a wait-and-see approach. The moves made in the last two years suggest a complete departure from the franchise identity we’ve fallen in love with. When bad decisions are made, it’s fair to criticize them. By record, Joe managed one of the worst drop-offs in season-to-season records over the last two seasons, which would possibly allow one to make that argument that he has been the league’s worst GM for that period.
That’s not to say he’s a shitty GM. As I said in a comment above, he’s a Hall of Fame caliber GM.
But “wait and see” just isn’t sufficient for some of us, especially those who have been waiting since Joe traded Chauncey. Since then, it has been a comedy of errors that feels more like performance art than it does basketball management. I like the Monroe pick, I love Jonas, and I’m an adherent of the Bennaissance. But not only has shit sucked the last two years, the moves that got us here have been entirely baffling.
Personally, I have more optimism now than I did last summer. But I still don’t feel it in my bones that we’re a playoff team, and our greatest hurdle is going to be un-doing the failures of the last two years… before we can truly build.
Fortunately, these cap-happy fools in New York, Miami and elsewhere are going to have roster holes and cap room available, so I’m hoping Joe can at least undo one mistake before the season begins.
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i dont want joe gone
for all the shit he gets there are way more boneheaded people doing the job of gm. i wouldnt want the gm to walk away at a time when the owner doesnt give a shit and the whole organization is in flux. thats how shit ends up being really awful like david kahn awful.
by dandresden on Jul 5, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
agreed
I would much rather have Joe than bring in some random dumbass just for the sake of making change
by bearded thundar on Jul 5, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think what makes Dumars so interesting is that he did something not a single GM in the game right now has done.
He built a team without a single superstar/hall of fame player. That’s why the whole “luck” thing is brought into the equation because he did something most people would consider impossible.
To me, that’s what made Dumars such a great GM, how he built a team with other team’s scraps and turned it into a championship contender. Even the GMs consider better than Dumars haven’t done that.
by Terrence J. Lynch on Jul 5, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Now, if he could manage to repeat that then he would own the universe.
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
problem is rules changed
Stern revised the rules specifically so that can’t happen again, with the no hand check rule. Because of that superstars get a million free throws for just bumping into people and throwing the ball up
by bearded thundar on Jul 5, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's irrelevant
79-83 was the final score of game 7. Boston only scored 67 points the game before that. Defense wasn’t banned. We were just a fan base in denial of our declining team at the time.
I think offensive players are paid more than defensive ones and that’s why defense has and always will win championships.
The free throws are just to fix the spreads….. and man-bear-pig is REAL.
no it's not
That wasn’t good defense in game 7, that was horrible offense. People were missing wide open shots all over the place. It had little to do with the opposition, it was primarily because both sides were simply worn out, especially Kobe and the stone age celts big 3
by bearded thundar on Jul 6, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was surprisingly anemic offense from two teams with gifted scorers. Boston played some tough D in the first few games, though.
by garrettelliott on Jul 6, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Joe's statement
"In response to today’s media reports regarding the New Jersey Nets, I can say that I do not have any interest in a basketball operations position with the Nets," Dumars said in a statement released Monday night by the Pistons. "My priority is to continue leading the Pistons’ basketball operations efforts and putting together a team that is ready to compete and get back on track next season."
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
And Michael Curry is our coach for the future. And Flip Saunders will be staying put.
Joe talks a lot of BS sometimes.
by TDP on Jul 5, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize Jod's denied the roomers...
But in my book, he’s one more bad move away from me fully jumping on the fire JoD bandwagon. As constructed, we’re lottery bound again. If he can’t right the ship this season — or at least get us pointed back in the right direction, I’ll be ready for change.
not necessarily a bad thing
Even if we were a playoff team, I doubt we would make it very far. Getting a top 3 pick could be really beneficially for the future and could truly right the ship
by bearded thundar on Jul 5, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
last time i checked the five year post-title grace period is over
off with his head! take the job joe!
AND THEN WHAT?
maybe we should call Kahn for some help…
I hear Isiah is trying to get back into the NBA...
by bearded thundar on Jul 5, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
“I just turned Charlie Villaneuva into three chihuahuas and Walter Sharpe. What do you think about that?”
-Isiah Thomas
by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 5, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I heard Dan Dresden is looking for an all-chihuahua starting 5
Mr. Thomas on line 1
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
Jesus, I was hoping this would be posted on this site.
This was reported on RealGM and The New York Post at least two days ago.
Really?
I didn’t see anything until last night. I don’t follow the Post, though, because nearly nothing they report about basketball is real.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jul 5, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
The New York Post is a birdcage liner
/curmudgeon’d
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
Joe D
I don’t think that will ever happen ever!!!!!!!
by Fred W. Capel on Jul 5, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 9 recs
Fred's here ladies and gents, you know what that means
MAKE IT GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Where the fuck are the CAPS FRED
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
by Skylar on Jul 5, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
This Dumars to NJ deal is bull crap
Dumars said his only concern right now is to have Detroit ready to compete. This guy is loyal to this Piston organization.
I can't see Joe leaving because that's not what he's about...
He got us in this mess, it’s his job to get us out.
A winner at heart (and I believe he is) can’t just LEAVE when the going gets tough. Especially when it’s his wrongdoing in the first place…
If we had a good shot at getting a better GM
I would be down, but I’m not in favor firing him to prove a point.
Another factor that may incentivize JOD to leave...
…is the opportunity to work with Avery Johnson, who would have been hired to coach the Pistons but for his salary demands.
Johnson would have been worth every penny
But I guess Joe realized this team is far from contention and can therefore afford a subpar temp that can only surprise for the better (sorry K, you are a nice guy, just not championship material)
For those of you wondering (Kriz)
Trent Plaisted is actually starting at center for the Sixers summer league squad and had a +17 against the Nets.
Parakhouski had ten boards in his debut and Favors had nine.
I don't know
10 boards in 18 minutes is very impressive if he can sustain that. As for the offense, not sure whether he turned down shots or if he just didn’t get passed enough.
Also thought I should point out our man Byron Mullens had 24 points but only 7 boards. Looks like the guy can be a solid scoring option in the post, but will never be a great rebounder (this is from looking at his d-league numbers, that 7 boards in 30 minutes is pretty much in line with his play).
by bearded thundar on Jul 6, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Did a write up
Obviously glowingly positive…need to work on being more critical of art.
Long story short, the game for Boston was dominated by Carroll and Harangody (Harangody at PF only dominated because he stepped out beyond the arc and shot lights out…typically I wouldn’t expect a PF to get as many touches as he got) and Omar Lafayette does not look like a good point guard.
Art will definitely need to assert himself on the post if he wants any chance at getting consistent touches. The starting center ahead of him was fucking terrible and I’m hoping that Game 2 for Boston will see Art starting at the 5.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
need to work on being more critical of art.
You’re no Art critic, Boourns.
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by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I c what u did thar.
and will now wreck you fur it.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Saw the game
And I hate going directly to racial stereotypes, but he looked like a clumsy white stiff. Not what I expected from his sport background. But the thing was that while his movement looked clumsy he was pretty effective, he went where he had to be defensively and got those rebounds because he acquired the right box out position, it was not a matter of rebounds falling to him.
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
I think the problem is...he's 6'11", 270
so of course he’s going to look more clumsy than the other smaller quicker players on the floor. But 3 fouls, 2 blocked shots, a few other altered shots, hedging on the pick and roll all indicate that if he’s not more agile he’s at least more effective than someone like CV has shown in the past season on the defensive end.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
im in full agreeance
10 in 18 is sick even for summer league. I also love me some d league players cause they’re so hungry. I’m really excited to see if reiner steps it up for us. I. had a fan shot about him like 6 months ago.
by JoeDip on Jul 6, 2010 11:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
After all the hype I kind of expect him to look like that photo BT posted of the gigantic biceps guy.
by garrettelliott on Jul 6, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
da best thing happen
2 all who don’t know have a seat let me explain. every since the original detroit badboys joe dumars was 1 of the best things that ever happen 2 the detroit piston from the back 2 back championship he won in the day until now.joe d. is detroit .ok its kool that someone wants his skills his knowledge but we all want something it doesn’t mean we will get it.he could takes nothing & turn it in 2 something…thats what we need in detroit.. so dumars forget about the nets focus your mind on next season them boys could use you wisdom…..forever & always detroit 4 life
It's like you're channeling Mic Jaggar himself...
but we all want something it doesn’t mean we will get it.
No Corey, you cannot always get what you want. But I think what Mikhail Prokhorov knows is that if you try some time, you just might find, you get what you need.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you wrecked the wrecker
Don't be callin' me dog cause I want ya to say it backwards - Tech N9ne
by MaxiellEatsLittleOnes on Jul 7, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
2 all who don’t know have a seat let me explain
Can I get up now? We finished?
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by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
YOU SIT YOUR WHORE ASS DOWN NOW!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i get lazy when writing on the internet
my posts on this blog for example look nothing like the emails I write for work… for example I use “…” a lot for reasons unknown and i rarely use capital letters
you however took it to a new level. it was very hard to read what you just wrote haha
sir, ellipses are shapes
Also, d’oh. :(
by JoeDip on Jul 6, 2010 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Biz Markie Moon likes Twilight: Ellipse
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
Ha!
Just because of Robert Pattinson’s excellent facial bone structure.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 6, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
d@ Wu2 0N3 1nF0rm4T1V3 P0St Y4ll. 1 m trUly 3NR1ch3d PH0R H4V1n’ r34d tH@.
by TDP on Jul 6, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Sad that I can actually understand what you're saying...
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Don't Know if the Nyets Are Interested in Dumars but
The amazing Cheikh Samb will be on the Raptors LVSL team.
I guess Amir must have convinced the Raptors brass that he would be a nice guy to have as their 15th man on their 2010-11 roster. LOL
They want to boost Bargnani's confidence by having him outmuscle someone in the post in practice.
by Quick Darshan on Jul 6, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Samb actually put on 45 lbs
while in the NBDL. Supposedly Eddy Curry has taken him under his wing.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Completely false by the way. I have no idea how heavy samb is right now.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
His chicken wing?
Cause I could go for some chicken wings right about now.
My two favorite teams are the Tigers and Brewers. Drunk tigers. That sounds about right.
Me in 140 characters
I remember that game where Samb and Amir had monster block numbers—man did I go overboard with optimism then.
That was against the Lakers, wasn’t it? That was a fun game. And early enough in the season that we got all excited over their potential. Good times!
by garrettelliott on Jul 6, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
my favorite "04 era" pistons moment, made me pee a little out of excitment...
by Band Aid on Jul 6, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh yes! YES! YES! YES!
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
by Kriz on Jul 6, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Favorite part of that call
Greg: He practices those!
George: YES HEEE DOES!
"Wait a minute! That's insane! They're total liars. I kept my mouth shut when Dean said he could read Sanskrit, and when Hank said he wanted a piece of him, I was like 'Fine. Whatever.', but Mecha-Shiva? No way! They are so lying, I'm innocent!"
-The Monarch
Let me add one of my favorites
Tayshaun owning Turkdodo all to hell.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 6, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s clips like that make me wish Tayshaun was more aggressive. He just slips by him.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 6, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember watching that
My dad was vaguely interested in the Hornets, and watching that turnaround the Pistons had put a shit eating grin on my face. That block was the turning point.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 6, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
gonna have to watch these after the Art show.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
actually most money would have been in Toronto...
but hahahaha, we know he wasn’t going back to toronto! (I’m from Toronto; great city – but shitty cold weather in winter and shitty team)
I think he made best decision. He’s not a batman but a robin. Like Pau needed Kobe (and vice versa) get wins in the postseason and win a championship, Bosh needs Wade to get wins in the postseason (still don’t see a championship though).
He is a Robin, I wonder if he's realizing that?
Just weeks ago he said he wanted to sign as a Centerpiece, not a addition (paraphasing).. maybe this deal will convince him of the reality in 2010.
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
The real question: can additions still be considered franchise cornerstones, even if they’re not centrepieces?
Well if he is in the corner he is not in the center.
And nobody puts Bosh on the corner.
lame joke’d/
Where in the world is Trent Plaisted?
To me, yeah
To an oversized pipsqueak who acts like he’s Top flight but hasn’t achieved much or led his team anywhere- I don’t know.
"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"
What's Top Tax Bracket In Ontario/Canada?
Something like 53% with little deductions, right?
by V. on Jul 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a marginal tax rate. the combined federal/ontario tax bracket is as follows:
first $37,106: 20.05%
over $37,106 up to $40,970: 24.15%
over $40,970 up to $65,345: 31.15%
over $65,345 up to $74,214: 32.98%
over $74,214 up to $76,986: 35.39%
over $76,986 up to $81,941: 39.41%
over $81,941 up to $127,021: 43.41%
over $127,021: 46.41%
given he’ll being making in the millions, the marginal tax rates will have very little impact on his income as 99.9% of his salary (i.e. that over $127,021) will be taxed at highest bracket of 46.41%
as for deductions, we do have all sorts of deductions available. i don’t know american taxes very well so don’t know what deductions you guys get vs. what we get.
I once got a deduction for a reduction...
if ya know what I mean.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I think it’s about 45%? But everything just changed on July 1st because we had a new tax implemented, so I don’t know if that effects the overall numbers and stuff or not.
by garrettelliott on Jul 7, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure the highest tax bracket for U.S. is 35%
Do canadian athletes get paid in canadian dollars? They’re worth more than US dollars right? A pretty big difference when you talk about tens of millions.
We have ridiculous deductions btw.
Thats federal...add in state or city and it gets a little higher
And the Canadian dollar I believe is not worth as much as the US $ currently. It was briefly a few years back but not now.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Yeah, that was a crazy blip a few years ago. According to a recent currency converter, though, our Canadian dollar is at $0.94, so that’s not bad. For years, though (especially back in the 90’s) our dollar sucked and I know that used to be a complaint from guys who had to play in Toronto. I think I remember hearing they get taxed twice or something weird — paid in American, but taxed by our government, and then taxed again because they’re US citizens?
by garrettelliott on Jul 7, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
laughs
points at all of you, except for Big Z in Orlando, Soufpaw (formerly scntfc) and myself.
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That’s one of the best things about Florida. I remember moving here from Michigan and being like “Wha? No state income tax form? REJOICING! Kill the fatted Calf!”
by Big Z in Orlando on Jul 8, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Laugh away drunkard
But I’m sitting pretty in Seattle with no state income tax either.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
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