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Josh Childress

Career Averages Rebounds  
YR TM G GS MIN FG FG% 3P 3P% FT FT% STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
04-05 ATL 80 44 29.7 3.8-8.0 .470 0.2-0.7 .232 2.4-2.9 .823 0.90 0.40 1.3 2.3 2.4 3.6 6.0 1.9 10.1
05-06 ATL 74 10 30.4 3.8-6.8 .552 0.4-0.9 .492 2.1-2.7 .766 1.20 0.50 1.4 2.5 1.8 3.4 5.2 1.8 10.0
06-07 ATL 55 13 36.8 4.7-9.4 .504 0.5-1.4 .338 3.0-3.8 .795 1.10 0.70 1.5 2.1 2.2 4.0 6.1 2.3 13.0
07-08 ATL 76 0 29.9 4.3-7.5 .571 0.3-0.8 .367 2.9-3.6 .807 0.90 0.60 1.3 1.7 2.3 2.6 4.9 1.5 11.8
      G GS MIN FG FG% 3P 3P% FT FT% STL BLK TO PF OFF DEF TOT AST PTS
Totals   285 67 31.3 4.1-7.8 .522 0.3-0.9 .360 2.6-3.2 .799 1.0 0.5 1.4 2.2 2.2 3.4 5.6 1.8 11.1

What do you see in this stat line? Just tell me what you think... average, effective, role player, Micheal Curry?

But if I had mentioned Josh is only 26? And has had two years of obscurity for self-reflection?... Is it fair to say his ceiling is somewhere between Martell Webster and Gerald Wallace?

04-05 CHA 70 68 30.7 4.1-9.1 .449 0.2-0.9 .274 2.7-4.1 .661 1.70 1.30 2.3 2.6 1.7 3.8 5.5 2.0 11.1
05-06 CHA 55 52 34.5 5.8-10.7 .538 0.3-0.9 .280 3.4-5.6 .614 2.50 2.10 1.8 2.7 2.2 5.3 7.5 1.7 15.2
06-07 CHA 72 71 36.7 6.6-13.2 .502 0.5-1.7 .325 4.3-6.2 .691 2.00 1.00 2.2 2.9 2.0 5.2 7.2 2.6 18.1
07-08 CHA 62 59 38.3 6.6-14.6 .449 1.1-3.6 .321 5.0-6.9 .731 2.10 0.90 2.9 3.0 0.9 5.1 6.0 3.5 19.4

 

And Wallace was a full time starter on a very mediocre team.... Josh's most efficient season came on the 08 team the squeaked into the playoffs and rivted the collective basketball world for 7 games? Joe Johnson just a got a rediculous pay-day from the Hawks for that post-season... Had to of been cause he sucked last season.... 

It frees up possible deals to move Richard Hamilton (Or Gordon)... A trade bait Dampier should be am easy enough contract to aquire when offering Hamilton, who would make an imediate impact on that team with his off-ball movement...

You can then unload Tayshaun Prince and Jason Maxiell to a veteran team like New Orleans for Peja and his E.C. From here it gets obvious...

1.Tank this year

2.Get another lottery pick,

3.Rebuild around Rodney Stuckey, Greg Monroe, Josh Childress, Jonas Jerebko and draftpick..

4. Have money to throw around with all core players to signed to moderate rookie contracts or sub $10,000,000 deals,

5.Become the Trailblazers...

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I liked Childress, though that Fro was not the only thing getting to his head. He was so full of himself it wasn’t even funny. Maybe Olympiacos humbled him, who knows. Either way, I don’t think we need a mini-Iverson on the team.

Stat wise, that would be great. A Gordon-Childress-Jerebko-Monroe core (I still don’t think Stuckey is part of our future) would not be a bad thing in my mind. Problem is… would he sign for the mid-level? Outside of Tayshaun, we have nothing to offer Atlanta in a sign and trade and if we trade Tayshaun, that is a huge difference in contracts (no way Childress gets $10+ million)

by Apocalyptic0n3 on Jul 6, 2010 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Ive always liked him.

However isnt he just another guy that fits in the Small Forward type player? We dont need another one of those.

by BennieBladesFan on Jul 6, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

And the invisible man will play Centre?

by brgulker on Jul 6, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Invisible Man would be extremely effective at both ends of the floor

And I’m referring to the Sci-Fi Invisible Man as opposed to the classic novel written by Ralph Ellison.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

H.G. Wells FTW?

My two favorite teams are the Tigers and Brewers. Drunk tigers. That sounds about right.
Me in 140 characters

by ReichardZ on Jul 6, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree about his future position.

by brgulker on Jul 6, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit needs a little fine tuning...

I’d love IIguaskas, Haywood or even Dampier. I don’t want to trade Rip but if Prince has to go i’ll be okay w it, to bad we couldn’t get rid of CV and Wilcox. If none of the big’s land in Detroit then maybe we can send Wilcox and Prince to Orlando for Gartat and Reddick.

by SmittyJ on Jul 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what about Childress?

Are we just gonna bring him off the bench?

by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 6, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ford and Woj have been tweeting that there’s a large market for Childress right now, presumably more than MLE. Couple that with the fact he’s a SF, and I don’t think he’s really worth talking about (even though I like what he did in the NBA while he was here).

by brgulker on Jul 6, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you kidding? Small Forward is the position we need the most!

If the legend is true, then one can combine the ultimate small forward by combining 5 in a Voltron like experience. JoD already has:

Jerebko
Daye
Summers
Prince

We need just one more to complete the super mecha small forward known as Prince of Daye and all Summers Jonas Childress

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

We need a true big down low

Gortat, Dampier, IIguaskas or Haywood

 RIP PROBERT!!!!!!!

by SmittyJ on Jul 6, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

We need Art

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I figured Jonas would be the bottom, right guy. (Guy, right?) He’s got the longest rod – and it’s got a snake on it!

by TDP on Jul 6, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Monroe is going to be our center… Like it or not…

"The NBA... Where Free Darko Happens..."

by Gizzards on Jul 6, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope...Art will be starting Center for the Pistons by November

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

Think about how much money we’d save if we signed Art to a $1M over 2 year contract. He starts, provides 6 fouls, offensive rebounding, and impressive minimal vertical dunks, while Monroe makes prolific passes from the high post. Ben Wallace plays heavy minutes still (say 25 minutes a game at center) and then in the off-season, we make a hard push at Marc Gasol.

Even if we’re terrible again, it just means we have a solid shot at another lottery pick which makes signing Gasol that much easier…lineup in 2010/11 season:

Stuckey/Bynum/White
Gordon/Daye/White
Jerebko/Daye/Summers
Monroe/CV/Max
Gasol/Art

We’d have 3 white dudes ensuring our dominance over Indiana for years to come.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus the lottery pick which we'll devote to yet another swingman and whatever we get for Rip and/or Tay's expiring

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If by swingman you mean combo-guard then sign me and Jod up!

by Gabe F-B on Jul 6, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if he can’t shoot.

by brgulker on Jul 6, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously not

but he is extremely athletic. We’re talking like Deron Washington athletic…and we all know how successful he’s been in the NBA.

I wonder if JoD has a following of like almost made it players who just hate his guts. He must have gotten so many players hopes up by drafting guys like Walter Sharpe, Washington, etc.

I wonder if they have a facebook group that is all about giving JoD what he deserves for drafting players that had absolutely no right to be drafted in the first place.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

josh childress? obscurity?

apparently you dont read his pulitzer prize winning “tech corner” for slam. brilliant, hardhitting journalilsm.

by dandresden on Jul 6, 2010 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I have read that. SLAM is the best 5th-grade reading level magazine out there!

by TDP on Jul 6, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s like the big kid diapers step up from Bleacher Report.

witty signature

by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You hear that Highlights For Kids, you’re BUSH LEAGUE!

by TDP on Jul 6, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I swear, the covers are the best part of SLAM!.



"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"

by Skylar on Jul 7, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Darko with Ben, Chauncey, and Rip burns the eyes.

by Birdman84 on Jul 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

My then girlfriend (now wife) bought me a poster prior to us winning the chip that year … and Darko is among the 5 featured on it!

by brgulker on Jul 7, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You still married her?

by Birdman84 on Jul 7, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’m not expecting Faulkner when I read Slam, but I use Slam as a basketball poster reciprocal that just happens to include words, so that may be why I haven’t noticed.

by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 7, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

the articles are pure trash and worthless if you already follow basketball.

by dandresden on Jul 7, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, and the fact that any of the news is six to seven weeks old by post is always cool.

I like my coffee how I like my coffee... recursive.

by TDP on Jul 8, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

I thought you mean that it was like badly written word wise. You’re saying its like basketball tabloids.

by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 8, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I saw that when it dropped, and was actually kinda hyped for a sec

I just like their layouts and the person who shoots for them.

"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"

by Skylar on Jul 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just wanted an excuse to post that Iverson cover. I actually feel the same — solid layouts and (usually) wicked photography.

by garrettelliott on Jul 7, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can see the hesitancy and lack of resolve in his eyes.

As has been said, great photo.

"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"

by Skylar on Jul 7, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously he's thinking about practice.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 7, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Darko

He’s got the Gomer Pyle stare going.

“1-2 clippers. AWESOME FROSTED TIPS.”

by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 7, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to slip my tubesteak into your sister.

witty signature

by Mike Payne on Jul 7, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steers and Queers MP...steers and queers

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 7, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

give me both

or give me death

witty signature

by Mike Payne on Jul 7, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This picture is just bizarre. Odom has a pharaoh beard and looks a little like Yassar Arafat with that thing on his head. Elton Brand has a shaved head, so he looks kinda dumb with a head band. And Darius Miles looks like an update of a cartoon character to look “street” with that pose.

by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 7, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...don't they have Odom and Miles swapped?

Dude on right has Odom but looks more like Darius Miles…at least the Darius Miles I remember from Van Wilder anyway…

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 7, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a second....

everybody is wearing everybody else’s jerseys. WTF, Slam.

This poster got even weirder.

by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 7, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what msayin'

"For fam like the Partridges, pardon him for the mix up
battle for your Atari cartridges or put your kicks up, it’s a stick up"

by Skylar on Jul 8, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

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