Was JoD Right?

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I at least only had issue with the amounts that he signed them for and how quickly he pulled the trigger in what was expected to be a quiet free agency.

He’s stated he’s not going to just re-sign Bynum and end up “bidding against himself”. He wants the market to decide Bynum’s worth and then offer something slightly better. This is exactly what he didn’t do with Ben Gordon and CV. He just set the value on both of them without waiting to see what other team’s would be willing to offer.

And yeah there is a risk with waiting…BG or CV could have gotten an offer that they still liked and went with it at which point we’d be in a tough pickle. But I would have much rather ended up with CV for 5 and 32 as opposed to 5 and 38 and Gordon for 5 and 50 instead of 5 and 55…

Still glad they’re both Pistons though.

I think the mere fact that we’re here, now, proves that most at DBB aren’t bandwagon ass cats.

One love!

/conscientiousobjector’d

But the more I think about it, the more I think we could’ve at least had a decent shot at making the finals that year. I mean, maybe we wouldn’t if we got matched up against Cleveland, but Boston didn’t have KG or Posey, and we would still have the personnel to own Orlando (Rasheed and Chauncey, basically). Plus, Stuckey could’ve developed into a slightly more useful role player than he was in the ‘08 playoffs, and we would’ve used Amir/Max a bit more, I think. I don’t think it’s inconceivable — especially with the way Tay guarded Kobe in the ‘04 finals — that we could’ve beaten LA in the finals, either. Well, unless MCIAFI spoiled it all…

Regardless, that’s all in the rear-view mirror now. Not much point in speculating over that stuff.

Amen.

I was surprised someone rec’d the post

Channing Frye is basically just a 3 point shooter, who in the right system can score…thats it
Drew Gooden: old, solid rebounder, but no upside
David Lee: I would agree…this is one guy I would’ve taken over CV, but it would’ve cost us more $$…something we didn’t have

CV: Yes, he is inconsistent, but he has a high ceiling. He’s young, not fully developed, but very talented. He is basically ’Sheed without the defense.These are the type of player JoD in the past has turned into gold. Guys like Tay, Chauncey, and ’Sheed.

As far as the guards:

Really? Von Wafer? Rodney Carney?

They are no where near the talent level of Ben Gordon. They have upside, but they are not starting SGs or even role players on most teams.

The only move that doesn’t make sense is of course the Rip Hamilton extension, but I’m gonna give JoD the benefit of the doubt for a few more years b/c I think he’ll trade Rip. He’s traded fading stars for future all stars before. (Grant Hill for Ben Wallace, Jerry Stackhouse for Rip Hamilton).

Maybe JoD KNEW the East was going to be extra-extra-extra weak after this summer, and it’s all a part of his master plan? Maybe…? Ehhhh…..? http://www.cricketchirp.com

Every move Joe has made since the CB trade (with the exceptions of Ben and Jonas) have been the wrong ones.

Every move Joe has made since the CB trade (with the exceptions of Ben and Jonas) have shown a clear departure from Detroit’s blue collar, defense-minded identity. Every move he has made by trade, free agent signing or the draft (with the possible exception of Monroe) has left clearly superior players on the table.

Every move Joe has made since the CB trade (with the exceptions of Ben and Jonas) have shown a clear departure from Detroit’s blue collar, defense-minded identity

That would basically be how I would define wrong in my post above. So yeah, same thing, different words.

I will never be able to defend Jod’s moves last summer. It seems as if some are arguing something like Jod was looking into his crystal ball and realized that he couldn’t compete this summer, and he was justified in spending his money. He’s ahead of the curve, in other words. But what I fail to understand is how signing middling players to multi-year, multi-million dollar contracts a year in advance of everyone else doing soii s a good thing.

What would have been amazing is if he had anticipated that from other GMs and avoided it a year ahead of time, not duplicated it.

I find it really SAD how people forget what JoD has done for the Pistons. He is Mr Piston. He has won us two championships as a player, stayed with us (as a player) through the good times and the bad. He built a championship team that should’ve won more than one title from ashes, and after one bad season, and a questionable trade and a questionable contract extension, people want his job. I almost want him to go somewhere else. I almost want him to go somewhere like New Jersey, where there is stable ownership that is willing to spend money and a team that will be in the big-time New York market, where he could really show people that given the right tools, he can build a championship team

Milwaukee and Chicago are going to be fighting it out for the division title, and we’re nowhere near as good as either of them. Indiana is going to sucks, and so is Cleveland. At worst, we finish 4th.