Trade Machine, Pistons get Carmelo
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in other news, T-mac quote of the day:
“At this point in my career, 14 years, it’s a competition. You come off the bench – if that’s what it is, that’s what it is. I’m just ready to play basketball, y’all. Seriously. That’s what I wake up thinking about. That’s what I love to do. For these last two years, I’ve been kind of alienating my family a little bit because I’ve been fighting so hard to get back.”
alienated his family? wow
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If this entire voting is not "Nuggets would never do it" then I will lose a lot of faith in DBB...
So Denver gives up their future in Afflalo and Lawson plus their biggest trade chip for an aging SG and a declining SF just so they can have the 2006 Pistons in a more competitive conference? Not likely.
I was actually looking at this earlier though and would pose the following trade offer:
- Tay
- Rip
- Maxiell
- Summers
For
- Melo
- Chris Andersen
- Renaldo Balkman
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Chances are we wouldn't be able to get this without throwing in some picks...
I’d say the dealbreaker would be if they insisted on a 1st rounder. Knowing that Melo will probably not stay in Detroit seeing as we passed on him for Darko and he’ll likely end up in the Knicks hands anyways…his play in Detroit would be temporary so sacrificing significatn re-building pieces for a temporary SF would not be ideal…
But a lineup of
- Stuckey/Bynum/White
- Gordon/Daye/White
- Melo/Daye/Jerebko
- Jerebko/CV/Andersen
- Monroe/Andersen/Wallace
with depth charts changing based on match ups and how well players are playing would actually be pretty solid…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Balkman plays for Burger King?
by garrettelliott on Aug 18, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s better than playing for Tim Horton’s.
by garrettelliott on Aug 18, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Can I play for Dom Bakeries?

Best goddamn donuts on the planet, Dan Dresden is sure to agree
I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J
I like the phrase "Ya darn tootin"
I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J
To this I'd say, "so what?"
If we got Chris Andersen and got rid of the serious logjammin’ we got goin on in our backcourt, plus we get Carmelo for a season (very good for the financial viability of the team itself in the short term) then I’d be okay with it so long as we don’t forfeit furture franchise building blocks (first rounders mainly).
The worst case scenario is we send Rip and Tay back to Denver to play out Chauncey’s days with their best buddy, we get a defensive/rebounding machine in Birdman, and Melo bolts for NY as soon as free agency ends giving us plenty of freakin’ cap space to go after Marc Gasol assuming the CBA allows us to do so.
Best case scenario is Melo comes to Detroit, we become a 50+ win team and make a deep run and Melo decides he really loves playing for Joe D in the D and decides to stick around.
Considering most of us have determined that we’ll be lucky to get much of anything for Rip…getting a superstar for a season in his prime and a defensive minded backup C with 3 years remaining on a reasonable contract isn’t so bad.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
this would take multiple players on both sides.
I do know that 3 yrs at 65 mill is on the table for him with Denver. so I think it would be slim to none of us getting him unless we worked CV/BG into that deal somehow. I know that New York would willingly pay him that much. Only way this happens is if we give up some pieces that we don’t want to let go of and it is a S&T.
Formerly known as SCNTFC!
Carmelo @20 mil per year>>>>>CV+BG
Not even close
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 18, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you fuckin' kiddin
hell yes, deal those dudes. Put ’em in a twin pack like GiJoes used to come in. Denver fucking owes us this
I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J
it would never happen
Melo puts up almost the same amount of collective scoring as CV+BG, but does it more efficiently and does it out of one position, meaning you can put more talent around him.
Why would Denver ever do it if they got him to sign the extension? That makes zero sense at all
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 19, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
This trade idea thread deserves another list of similarly preposterous ideas.
A la the “Bynum wants to start” thread. And go.
- Jimi Hendrix doesn’t die and instead follows up Band of Gypsies by joining peak-era King Crimson
- Tom Selleck’s “Magnum P.I.” producers aren’t dicks and let him out of his contract to star in “Raiders of the Lost Ark”
- Wilt wears condom, Lebron is never born
- Petey is a trust-fund baby, buys Pistons, gets PG who deforms defenses
- other ridiculous shit
-beastie boys win best video for sabotage instead of REM
-Ol Dirty Bastard keeps doing coke and pills and weed but lives through it all
-the bluesmobile never falls apart
-Donald Duck’s nephews fail to steal the car he won from that radio show in that cartoon I saw once
-Kevin Garnett is traded to the Clippers and the Celtics instead got broke ass Cuttino Mobley
I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J
- Wilco breaks up after A Ghost Is Born
- Juggalos die of mass Faygo overdose
- The Doors form in Detroit instead, never meet Jim Morrison, instead meet up with a young Iggy Pop
- Wisconsin forms a robot that runs on cheese that destroys Brett Favre’s knees once and for all
- Final Fantasy X wasn’t retarded as fuck and doesn’t turn me off video games prematurely
- The Pistons move into NBA 2K10 logic and after two years, Greg Monroe is a PF with 92 rating
- Gamera, Gojira, and Mothra play Bosh, Wade, and Lebron in a game of hoops. Being giant monsters, their basketball logic pretty much extends to “Fuck you, we’re 400 feet tall” and they eat the BFFs
- They also eat the cheesebot for the lulz
- I’m Spiderman
by Biz Markie Moon on Aug 18, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i was trying to convince this girl the other day that if you play the doors “hotel morrison” in sync with “dances with wolves” that it totally matches up ala pink floyd/wizard of oz.
Floyd's "Echoes" and the final section of "2001" is the best one by far.
Pretty sure it was done intentionally— Waters said that his greatest regret was that they didn’t get to do the score for the film. The middle section with the infrared mountains and shit is incredible.
Are there any more of these that are interesting in a way that I would have my mind blown?
by Biz Markie Moon on Aug 19, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
If Shangri-La is the afterlife, I hope it's hell.
I’m serious. First, I denigrated the juggalos because they were obsessed with a shitty horrorcore band, but then they threw STONE ROCKS at Tila Tequila AND Method Man in one night. Seriously, I don’t like Tila Tequila, but you just don’ t throw shit at a lady. But then they somehow manage to throw stuff at Method Man, our greatest national hero. So not only are they unpatriotic, they hate women, and they like the Insane Clown Posse. Fuck ’em. Fuck ’em in the EAR. Seriously though, I had to get that off of my chest. They just became some of the worst people in the world to me.
by Biz Markie Moon on Aug 19, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
dude i hate juggalos
i think they are the biggest joke ever. as my man skylar said “they’re kind of an embarrassment to michigan”. i cant believe that they have been around since ive been in 7th grade. its mind blowing. ive started to wonder if there will be juggalos when im 80 and it saddens me.
Yeah, man, that felt good to get off of my chest.
I mean, I want to have a begrudging respect for the subculture, but they’re basically all angry stunted people that love a band that just feeds on that. Its like if Travis Bickle had buddies. Its vaguely terrifying.
by Biz Markie Moon on Aug 19, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd totes be all up in disgust about them Juggalos
But we have Motown, Stooges, Madonna, MC5, Eminem, Kid Rock, we have, as a state, produced a lot of really really good fucking music (for arguments’ sakes, profitable). If we were Oregon instead, and the Juggalos came out of there, then as a people I’d be really really ashamed. I just look the other way.
They are the biggest joke ever. Stupid peoples love ‘em. I guess there’s a band for everyone.
Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.
Seriously, I don’t like Tila Tequila, but you just don’ t throw shit at a lady.
Whoa, now. Technically, Tila Tequila is a female. But a lady? Ladies don’t act like gutter whores.
But you just can’t treat Hot Nikkels, A.K.A. Johnny Blaze like that. Wu-Tang forever!
They hit Mista Mef with shit?
Dude you can go to hell for that.
I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J
Oh dude, he got hit with a beer bottle, stopped for a second, and then just kept going apparently. I read about it on AV Club.
by Biz Markie Moon on Aug 19, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
Redacted, and changed. You just don’t throw shit at a female.
by Biz Markie Moon on Aug 19, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
If You Ever Had Coffee With Me In Little Saigon
well…Tila looks like a man next to your average coffee server there.
Go to YouTube and search for Cafe Di Vang and you’ll know what I’m talking about..and that’s not even the top shelf talent.
by V. on Aug 21, 2010 4:48 AM EDT up reply actions
- after losing to the Pistons in the ’90 playoffs, Michael Jordan slinks into a local YMCA and takes up curling, where he begins a dominating career, wins two gold medals, and never plays basketball again, leading to the Pistons winning two more titles. The Automotion have Ninja Turle cheer day! Sorry ‘bout the nsfw pic!
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— The Super BFF’s go to Sea World, decide to swim with the dolphins, are summarily accosted by the Dolphins in their rage over not being allowed fleshlights, and spend the first game hobbling around the court as the crowd makes very excited dolphin noises at them.
— not only is there always room for jello, there’s always room for pot roast smothered in gravy.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
by JumpingBlob on Aug 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Was Waiting For This
See, you never had to worry about the DPs moving to Vegas…they’re moving to Denver instead!
Just what we need…another SF.
Sign and trade for Anthony
I doubt any Anthony trade works without a sign and trade, because who wants to risk getting him for one year only? New York has nothing to offer Denver, so they have to hope he becomes a free agent. I don’t think the trade posted actually works because I can’t believe Denver would be that stupid – even though they do “owe” us bigtime for taking AI for Billups. I’d happily give them almost anything we have for Melo – except Monroe. If we sent them Rip or Gordon and Tay I’d be okay with that. If we have to throw in CV or Stuckey as alternate pieces, I’d be okay with that. If we’d drafted Melo in the first place, we’d have been hands down the dominant team of the last decade.
by revken on Aug 19, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
kinda' what I was trying to allude to earlier.
All indications point to Melo leaving Denver. that’s why a sign and trade makes sense. At least they would be getting something in return. Joe would have to offer them any combination of what You mentioned. CV/BG being the sticking points. because they are both productive on decent contracts. only thing is, Joe has to hoodwink them into thinking we have other offers on the table so that they will hit the panic button. Kinda’ like how they did us with the AI situation. In my eyes the only untouchables would be JJ and and possibly Monroe.
Formerly known as SCNTFC!
Carmelo Anthony
I would be all in for getting Carmelo. We could send them Rip, Tay, even Stuckey if they wanted. I seriously doubt they would trade Lawson though, he is the future after Billups leaves and maybe we can pull in J.R. Smith in the trade if we are lucky.
by Detroitsportsfan3 on Aug 19, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions
It's impossible for us to get Melo
But we could still reunite the champions and maybe take back Nene. Why would they trade Nene? They shouldn’t want to, but maybe they would include him to get the best possible back for Anthony. If Melo leaves next year, they may be scared Nene won’t exercise his player option and will opt for free agency also.
Denver get: Hamilton, Prince, Maxiell, Gibson, Johnson, and a 1st round pick from us and chicago
Detroit gets: Nene, Deng
Chicago gets: Anthony
I would not give up a future first rounder for Nene & Deng
considering we’re likely to be back in the lottery again this year…especially if it means 1) We have to pay Deng for another 4 years upwards of $14M and 2) a division rival ends up with Carmelo Anthony to go with Boozer and Rose.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
My trade proposal above was assuming that Denver just said "fuck you to Carmelo"
and traded him for the best potential pieces they could get.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
We can get way more for Rip and Tayshaun
Rip, Tayshaun, and Maxiell matchup with Bosh and LeBron. Have to wait until December 15th but I’m sure by then Miami will realize they dun goofed and see what great champions Rip and Tayshaun are. That team could win 73 games! We might have to throw in a second rounder though, that might be a dealbreaker.
by Not a Gunslinger on Aug 19, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
maybe 2 second rounders and a pallet of Stroh's
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
no that's too much
2 seconds and Chris Wilcox should be more than enough.
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 19, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Denver won't trade Nene
Like us they are in need of more bigs, so I don’t see them parting with him. I’ll bet Orlando would love to deal with them and send them Gortat and whatever for Melo. Personally I doubt if he wants to come to us, but I’d love to have him and think he could make us much better. I guess the question is where else can he go where Denver gets back something that helps them? I’m sure they don’t want to be left in the Cavs shape. Word is he wants to go to the Knicks, but I don’t see how that happens. Where else could he go that Denver still gets back value? Any ideas?
Doesn't Joe D have a mancrush on Melo?
I do like watching him play. That’s been hinted at a lot, and I for one would welcome that sorta nonathletic yet mad skilled basketball phenom.
by Biz Markie Moon on Aug 19, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
Nice and Slow
Yeah, but if Joe D has a mancrush he always takes a long time to seal the deal. Like Benjamin Button long. Expect to see melo when we’re playing downtown, and we’re unloading Austin Daye’s bloated contract.
by tads on Aug 19, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i feel like melo would have came to detroit if he still had his braids
i can see him getting his hair did at “We be cutting hair and stuff” on grand river.
Hey that dude with the Parrot in Hamtramck
Let me play with the parrot the other night. He’s just like a cat.
I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J
Or we could have drafted Melo in the first place!
If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.
good point LionsGuy4Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Mike Payne on Aug 19, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to see a poopdick do what a jello jiggler does...or a puddin' pop for that matter
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
taking his kids to the pool as I type this....
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How many minutes would he have gotten playing behind Tay, and how might have he developed considering this?
by V. on Aug 21, 2010 4:51 AM EDT up reply actions
True True
True. But, he would have done more than he who shall not be named. However, I think Tay might have been traded if Melo would have produced. It is never a problem when you have lots of bargaining chips for trading. We could have gotten a big man for Tay back 3-4 years ago…hopefully….of course it is all hindsight now.
If you are pondering, "What am I supposed to do" think the EXACT OPPOSITE thing as Matt Millen is thinking.
by LionsGuy4Ever on Aug 21, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Nuggets would never do it
Even though they have a subtle affinity for Pistons castoffs.
T-Mac i saying the right things but I won’t believe it until the season starts. The logjam tells me different.
yeah...
I can’t remember the last time a guy came into a situation and said,
“Fuck this team, fuck these guys, I need to start because I’m way better than them anyways”.
Although that would be awesome if someone did. I could see Scott Pollard doing this for shock and awe.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I’m not all that hot about Melo. Iverson was his pair, he wasn’t all that great by himself or with Iverson. Billups comes around, he gets a little better. We need a Chris Paul more than a Melo.
Would I thumb my nose at a Melo? Of course not. I’m not really excited about a Melo, either, though.
Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.
I probably missed the poll, but it's an emphatic hell no from me
I’d prefer to keep the logjam, I thought Melo wants the Knicks anyway.
Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.
Yeah man, where the fuck you been anyways?
I was looking all over for you on The steel curtain still lives or whatever the fuck their shit is called and was convinced they had you tied up in the basement gagged up with a Kordell Stewart jersey in your mouth. Now, I know you like gags but no man should have to suffer such humiliation.
I don’t want add player does not have blue collar mentality,
even if he is great player. Piston should not quit your job. - OK from J

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