is a waste of money. it’s stupid to spend money just to say you did— there is no talent in the market to help win this team another game or two or to help us get into the playoffs. save the cash, joe.

McGrady is a SF. And we currently have two second-year players who also play that position who both appear to be worthy of being part of the core moving forward. If McGrady takes even a minute of playing time from Daye of Jerebko, this move was beyond horrid.

The only way this makes any sense is if there’s a plan in place to move Tay and TMac is insurance. If not, add this to the list of pure stupid from Jod.

It’s a vet min deal, so at least it’s not a bad move financially. Spending the MLE would be turrible.

As long as it doesn’t hurt our chances at Marc Gasol, I really could care less what Dumars does with minimum contracts. And I do think that he has done much better than anticipated with the Wallace and Bynum contracts, at least compared to their market value this summer.

And besides it’s not like T-Mac is anything like Water Sharpe nor is he getting the deal that Gordon got. Tracey, albeit a broken form of him, is still a tremendously talented player that is looking to prove himself again – and Joe has been very successful with those types of people in the past. If we can get 5-10 ppg out of him purely as someone to help space the floor, then I call the move a success. If he shows signs of being able to provide 15 ppg, I would even consider bringing him back.

But regardless of how well he does, this deal cannot hurt our cap space nor will it run into next year if chemistry problems appear. And to be quite honest, I would much rather spend $60 mil over 5 years on Marc Gasol than get some d-leaguer for the MLE and then a decent player next year.

and was really surprised at how miffed people seemed. I actually always wanted McGrady on our team although I was talking about it back after Houston’s first failure season with him on their roster and understandably he’s nowhere near what he was back then or what he was in Orlando. But I look at it from a worst case/best case scenario and came up with the following:

At worst we spend the vet minimum on a guy who doesn’t give us anything and ultimately rides the end of the bench providing some last minute depth if our multitude of guards go down with injuries again this season (just like last). Or really at worst, he gives us nothing but we play him over Terrico White (a guy which plenty of us weren’t exactly thrilled about initially even if we liked what we saw from summer league) and DaJuan Summers (for right or for wrong DaJuan).

At best, McGrady has a McRenaissance similar to McDiggidy’s and while he’s not going to lead us out of the 1st round of the playoffs, if he does show he has plenty left in the tank for this season then the possibility of flipping him for a 1st round draft pick from a middling contender looking for some extra punch off the bench is a definite possibility.

And given that we’re all committed to the fact that we’re re-building, the opportunity to nab another 1st round draft pick for the 2011 draft or even 2012 as a result of signing a guy who just about every other team has given up on is a pretty nice thought.

Lastly, if you choose to speculate as to what this means for things to come then you have to take a McGrady signing as preparation for a bigger move that results in us shipping Tayshaun, Rip, or even possibly both of them sometime early on in the season if not before then.

cornfused > regular old confused

Where it’s at.

What is the best-case scenario here? Presumably, McGrady gets fully healthy, becomes a rotation piece, and potentially pushes us into a fight for the 7-8 seed. How is that a good thing for our franchise over the long-term?

If that does happen, we’re out a lottery pick, Daye’s development is another year behind schedule, and McGrady signs elsewhere next summer.

McGrady’s the kind of piece you add once you’re already firmly established as a Playoff team and are looking for a potential rotation player. He’s absolutely not the kind of player you sign when you’ve got several young pieces that play the same position that needs minutes in order to develop. This is just a dumb signing all the way around, and I really don’t care that it’s vet min.

When you’re the best at what you do, you tend to get a bit of input on decisions

I have been hopin’ that the “they’ll take the weekend to think about it” really means "they’ll wait to lock up that massive trade before signing him.

I like this signing if we can get rid of Tayshaun. Give T-Mac a year at the SF spot, let him mentor JJ and Daye who would then battle in a controlled environment for the starting position. If you do that, and everything goes peachy, then some teams see what T-Mac can do, maybe sign him for a shorter deal.

I still think he’s got some left in the tank. But he’s going to have change the way he plays the game.

because the Pistons dared give him Chauncey’s number.

32 ppg on 24 fga’s, 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 1.7 stl, and only 2.6 TO’s. McGrady is one of only a handful of guys ever to have a PER over 30 (along with Jordan, Wilt, Shaq, LeBron, David Robinson, and Wade).

then don’t give him PT. if he’s good, on a multi-year vet min deal, then trade up.

That was like Kenny Powers minus the racism and cursing.

Was he drunk?

so we give up Stuckey, Jerebko, 2 second round picks, Tayshaun and Rip…

…for Okafor, Nelson and Pietrus?

Dude, give it up man.

I think we have to assume that means Rip is going to get moved, even if it’s purely for cap relief. Joe full well knows that he’s gotta re-up Stuckey and Jerebko, and he’s gotta know he can’t keep paying Rip and BG.

I was on the trade Rip for assets bandwagon before the most recent trade deadline, but that time is long gone. I still don’t like the TMac deal very much, but if it’s the precursor to future financial sanity, I’m okay with it.

All that to say, I think if the TMac deal happens, you can pretty much take our name out of these potential blockbuster deals, because it likely means we’re dumping Rip (which is probably all the market would accept anyway).