Hittin' The Links: Starring Mr. Belding, John Salley... And, Oh Yeah, Tracy McGrady Potentially Signing With The Pistons
by Packey on Aug 9, 2010 11:02 AM EDT
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- It's CV31 hanging with Mr. Belding. It looks like Belding ate Screech. Ok, I'm deliberating the real issue: Will the Pistons sign 31-year-old, seven-time All-Star Tracy McGrady to a league minimum contract, similar to the one Shaqrock signed with Boston?
- Vincent Goodwill's latest update is that the Pistons are weighing the plus & minuses:
- Interesting tidbits from Langlois' Monday morning mailbag (emphasis mine):
- This signing could mean one of several things, according to Patrick Hayes:
#Pistons will evaluating [sic] #McGrady...his health, effect on the team's chemistry is an issue...still no offer yet
Adding McGrady, who can play small forward and shooting guard, adds to the depth at those two positions. Since the Pistons haven’t dealt yet, it’s logical to assume that Dumars hasn’t gotten the offer he wants but has gotten offers. To take that a step further, it makes sense that Dumars has been holding out hope to get an upgrade for his frontcourt if he was going to trade an impact player like Rip Hamilton or Tayshaun Prince. Adding McGrady, to essentially replace one of those players, might embolden Joe D to recalibrate his expectations; instead of taking back a frontcourt player – and productive ones are tough to acquire – maybe he’d be more inclined to trade one or the other for cap relief and/or draft picks. We’ll see.
Of course, the major issue is T-Mac's health:
If the Pistons add McGrady, and if McGrady can stay healthy, then the Pistons are suddenly a pretty intriguing team offensively – assuming they’re getting the Tracy McGrady we all remember. At 31, McGrady should still have productive years left. And that’s the wild card in the equation for me: Arnie Kander. In the tight fraternity of NBA players, Kander’s advice is solicited by many players who have chronic injury issues and Kander has maintained a dialogue with McGrady over the years. If McGrady comes here, I think a big part of the attraction for him will be his belief that Kander can help keep him healthy with daily hands-on care.
• Another move is in the works. McGrady, a veteran superstar, would want minutes. The Pistons don’t have any to give out on the perimeter. I would think they would be considering clearing a spot for him to play if they are considering bringing him on.
• Maybe he’s insurance in case they have concerns about the full-season health of Tayshaun Prince or Rip Hamilton, who both had major injury struggles last season.
• Maybe the team wants to bring in a star to sell tickets, but Dumars is not familiar with any stars post 2003 or so.
• Maybe they’re not convinced that Austin Daye is ready to provide big minutes and/or production. Or, maybe they are bringing in the lanky, finesse perimeter player in McGrady to mentor the lanky, finesse player Daye.
So I win a championship in 1989 and we're The Bad Boys. And it's the shit.
Feel free to add any other interesting reads in the comments. Ok, peace out.
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I can see NY and Cleveland being volatile. Maybe we’re a little better than that. But that actually looks pretty accurate, and I am usually prone to thinking ESPN is full of it. Also, Chicago > 50 wins, IMO.
I also doubt how much credit they are giving to the Charlotte Bobcats, sub .500 is right, but I don’t see how they are any better than the rest of us in the Morass between 8 and 13. there are definitely tiers to the eastern conference and we’re stuck in one tier above completely abysmal, so thats about right.
Charlotte is still > Detroit, I think. I’m not sure that they got any worse, and we didn’t get that much better…
Gerald Wallace is far better than anyone on our team
"Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans."
-ralphgoblue/thunder_god08
That's Four More Ws Than I'm Giving Them Right Now
But..you never know. It’s still early.
by V. on Aug 9, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
T Mac isn't ever going to play a full season again
In 06-07 he played 71 games. If we got that many games out of him it might be worth it. I won’t hold my breath.
Favre, even your agent has had enough. The drunken grillmaster, Buzz Cook, is getting too old for this.
SomeThings Are Inevitable
1) No surprise that Mike Ilitch wants to buy at least the Pistons, and maybe the Palace. I would also think, in response to John Salley, that either a living Mr. D. or Mr. I would take better care of Rick Mahorn. The current ownership obviously could care less.
May Mrs. Davidson be able to sell the franchise at a fair price and move forward with her life. When Tom Wilson moved over to work for Ilitch several months ago, it was pretty obvious (at least to me) what that move signalled. I think the only real negotiation is for the Palace, which I think the Ilitches aren’t all that interested in (or at least negotiating that way).
Obviously, this is great news for Detroit sports fans. Unlike Davidson, who left no blood heirs (he was unable to have children), Illitch Holdings is a family business, with the second generation in positions of senior management.
2) I believe the TMac signing will occur, and that Rip and Tay will be dealt at some point. That much is logical and fairly obvious. Obviously, Dumars tells Langlois essentially what Dumars wants published, and we go from there. It’s too early to tell until you see what moves are made. But signing him for the vet’s minimum, that one has to be right, if you can get that deal on.
3) Bringing in TMac to at least in part mentor Daye is intriguing. It has been discussed by the national media how OKC would be the champs if the NBA were a U25 league. A team headed by Jonas, Monroe, Daye and Rodney wouldn’t exactly be chopped liver, either.
I like the idea of McGrady mentoring Daye
His playoff failures aside, McGrady is the kind of player I would like to see Daye develop into.
Dude was a beast
pre-injuries. Arguably, there wasn’t a more complete, more versatile player at his position.
Mac's versatility is why I like the idea of him mentoring Daye
It’s one thing to turn a guy into a 20 ppg scorer. I’d like to see them make Daye into a complete player, one cheeseburger at a time.
by handsomerob1 on Aug 9, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I fancy Kevin Durant to a modern day T-Mac...
Daye’s much more like a Tayshaun Prince than a T-Mac imo
Durant isn’t as balanced as optimal T-Mac was. McGrady was somewhere between current Durant and modern LeBron.
yeah durant has the potential but tmac in his day was pretty amazing.
dude was better than kobe at one point.
I wouldn't say that
T-Mac had one MJ type year where he scored 32 ppg, 5.5 assists and 6.5 boards. Every other year he was up to Kobe’s level, but never better.
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 10, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 10, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, it was a fleeting moment, but he was there for a hot second. its just weird how far their careers diverged seeing as how they were both pretty amazing at the same time.
I remember when T-Mac was still in Toronto, throwing reverse layups off the bottom of the backboard. A friend of mine kept saying he’d be the best player in the league one day, and I kept saying he wouldn’t come close. He definitely came close a few times.
by garrettelliott on Aug 10, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Re: Point #2
ESPN Insider had an update on Tayshaun’s trade possibilities which essentially said that via sources within the Pistons organization, Tayshaun would not be traded unless he expressly asked the team as much. And even if he did, that a trade likely wouldn’t occur until closer to February anyways.
Not exactly promising…but if this is the case, then JoD’s loyalty to his players seems like its more important to JoD than the financial flexibility and future success of the team itself.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
this post makes me mad.
that kind of loyalty, while a pleasant lil thought on a hallmark card, hurts the team.
financial flexibility and future success of the team itself.
An argument can be made that letting Tay expire would bolster the financial flexibility of the team…
But the key question is how will the CBA change the cap space rules?
Because it may end up that bringing Tay back as a trade piece would be our best option, or sign and trade him, as the cap could shrink such that even if he and Chrit-o-fer expire, we may end up with just $4 mil to mess with
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 10, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Kinda lost in all this, but wasn't McGrady a pretty good defender as well?
Also, as much as people like to rip on his playoff woes, it’s not like the dude wasn’t putting up great numbers. 28.5 points, 6.9 assists, 6.2 rebounds in 38 career playoff games. Nothing really to scoff at.
Because I'm the Lynch... and I'm awwwesome!
by Terrence J. Lynch on Aug 9, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
this is what I was about to write.
At McGrady’s peak, he had a season with a higher Defensive Win Shares than any season in Bruce Bowen’s career. On the other hand, his statistical peak was clearly his age 23 season… which was almost ten years ago. And his scoring efficiency has been horrible for the past five seasons.
The odds of him being done as an NBA player are —> high.
along with his chances
he may have very well have been getting high himself. That camp ad he did was pretty wasted man
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 9, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
why am I not surprised
That he has a season high against us. It seems that everyone inexplicably does their best against us, even the most random of role players seem to have coming out parties only to disappear the following day.
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 9, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
daniel "boobie" gibson would like to thank the pistons.
im convinced that scoring those big shots against the pistons gave him the inflated sense of self worth to do this:
or how about Ramon Sessions
Exploding for 44 against us. The guy is a very good point guard, but I’d be shocked if he ever puts up 40 again. Not to mention CV+BG torched us and got contracts out of that (and look where that got us)
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 10, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Mike would agree
Scoring isn’t Ramon’s thing. Ramon excels at being a pure distributor that can score, efficiently too, but he is not a guy that will consistently have 30 point games due to his playing style. He would have thrived at SG if that was the case.
"Don’t really know shit about White other than he is a colon of Stuckey" - das SmittyJ
And here I thought I knew White like the palm of my hand
by bearded thundar on Aug 10, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Adrian Wojnarowski just tweeted
That the Pistons have reached a deal with McGrady. If he’s saying it, then it’s happened.
"Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans."
-ralphgoblue/thunder_god08
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