Poll: Bynum vs. Stuckey

We give up a slight bonus in defense to receive a massive improvement in distribution. While Bynum has always been an excellent isolation defender, he took a step back this season from injuries. If he really is healed, the rest of his defensive game will improve as well.

Stuckey is a 6th man of the year candidate, and should come off the bench with the ball in his hands and given the reigns. But as a starting point guard, he leaves our team empty on the plays it should run with our roster. When he starts and tries to lead our team, it’s no surprise that our bigs are stuck and the ball just doesn’t move in the way it should.

Bynum to start, Stuckey to 6th.

The way I see it, if you’re starting in our backcourt you ought to do one of the two main things that creates an efficient offense: get to the free throw line, or hit three pointers (discounting turnovers, as our slow-paced offense only allows a guy to turn the ball over more than three times a game if your initials are AI). Neither one of them are going to be making threes – but Stuckey has a chance to really be great at drawing fouls if he stops attempting acrobatic layups, instead attempting to draw the foul. IMO, that’s what would make the greatest impact for us.

He’s a better scorer and much better distributor. On offense, he complements virtually every 2 or 3 on the Pistons: Hamilton, Gordon, McGrady, Daye (I’m assuming Prince is gone). On defense, Stuckey might be better, but not by much. Bynum all the way.

Just because I think he can get to the rim and draw fouls just fine, but is a better distributer than Stuckey. So that whole pass to the open man thing is a bit more of an option. Something stuckey doesn’t do as he make some errant throw towards the hoop.

I think Bynum’s a better PG. I think Stuckey is probably slightly better as a basketball player overall because of his ability to defend both guard positions and to rebound the ball. But only slightly.

Both of these guys really have very similar styles. They are both shoot-first slashing scorers with no outside shot to speak. The difference in my mind is twofold:

1. Size
2. Age/Ceiling

I think I’ve said this before, but as hard as MFWB works, he’s never going to get any bigger. He’s a scrappy defender, but when a bigger guard decides to use his weight advantage, there’s not much he can do about it. At least Stuckey has a chance to guard bigger 1’s, and is quick enough to stay in front of most quick guards as well (doesn’t ALWAYS, but CAN).

MFWB is also as good as he’s going to get. Anyone expecting a significant improvement in any aspect of his game is betting against the odds. He’s at his peak right now. He’s not likely getting any better.

Say what you will about Stuckey, but in theory he still has the potential to improve his game. I realize most that voted for Bynum probably don’t agree that he will improve, by my argument still stands that he could.

And after all of that Stuckey defending type sounding talk, I actually voted for Bynum. I think Bynum is the better basketball player this minute, but I think for the long term Stuckey is the better option.

“I was curious how DBB readers felt about the place of Bynum vs. Stuckey on the Pistons.”

I think the argument is kinda moot. I love both the guys coming off the bench, but I don’t like either starting. They both have some large flaws. Better pg in my mind is Bynum, simply because he has made up his mind on how he is going to approach things while Stuckey still hasn’t shown me that. I’ll go with Stuckey as the better all around player by a slim margin barring offseason improvements by the two. I just wish I felt confident in Stuckey finishing layups, I still don’t get his akwardness at the rim.

He has shown improvement every year and under a different scheme each year. It’s difficult to shoot a moving target with accuracy. He’s being forced to be a leader on a team that doesn’t really accept him as the leader yet. That cannot be easy. I think he has been forced into a position that reflects poorly on his strengths and yet he’s been busting his tail doing what he can for this team. He might not be a 100% pure point guard, but he is the better player overall than Bynum IMO and I’d rather have him lead the team.

But I chalk up at him trying to earn a contract. So I hope this year he comes and focus more on running the offense rather than getting his numbers.

As a PG, Bynum probably has the most ability but like I said I didn’t like his approach to it.

Right now I like Stuckey better, if for nothing else, for his height and how that helped him fill multiple roles for us last season.

Stuckey had give or take a 5% edge on Bynum up until about 60 votes, then the late votes went hard for Stuckey. My wild arsed guess is that daily readers of DBB are more evenly split than more casual followers of the NBA like say ESPN’s Chad Ford.

I go for Will Bynum, he is a pure point guard that can get all our wings involved in the offense. While Stuckey has all the talent in the world he’s never taken the next step I expected him to, he could be a pretty good sixth man but I don’t think he would want that role at all.

I like Bynum’s game but I feel like Stuckey has not had the right backcourt mate to help his game. Gordon’s 3pt ability is the perfect compliment to Stuckey’s driving game. I think at some point JoD needs to trade Rip for a big.

This is what I think of Stuckey he reminds me of Ramon Sessions hes a guy who could do really well as a sixth man but does not have the ability to be a big time player in 30 mins of playing time consistantly he is a better shooter than Bynum but remember hes a point guard. Point guards need to know how to drive and kick the ball up otherwise we are getting another Mo Williams.
 
If we were to make a trade I would say we trade
Charlie V and Stuckey
to The Sixers
for Marreese Speights and a 2nd round pick
 Think about it we finally get a scoring threat down low and a tandom of speights, Monroe and Jonas talk about terrible three. you could even have prince in at shooting guard with Bynum or gordon at point, talk about instant offense.

yeah i am new to all this…but not new to the stuckey v bynum shit. honestly neither of them blows my mind enough to start arguments. they are both combo guards. deal with it. in my mind i would start terrico white who seems to be the dumars combo guard wet dream. stuckey is good right, but if he is supposed to be the next wade how many nasty dunks have we seen? lots of “Yo!”s after bad drives and bad decision making, which, as much as i love bynums intensity he is not much better. White at least could be the next Evans…

but dude is a similar size, crazy athletic, combo guard like Tyreke. I am just saying if he were drafted now with the expectations Stuck had i think he would play tons of minutes and maybe be more of a threat. Now he is stuck behind Stuck and Will and maybe never sees minutes. Quite possibly i am kool aided up but daymn that vid of him dunking and destroying everyone gave me the chills

i guess i asked for that