Pistons Will Come Up Just Short Of Making The Playoffs This Year (According To NBA2k11 Ratings)
Well, that is, if you're going by the NBA2k11 average rating of each team's projected starting five (who doesn't turn fatigue off and play the starting five all game anyway?). The NBA2k11 ratings have the Pistons falling just shy of making the top eight in the Eastern Conference, tying with the Bobcats' starting lineup average of 73.4. They're both edged out by the 76ers, who sneak into the playoffs with a starting five rating of 74.
If you've read to this point and still don't know what NBA2k11 is, well, I'm sorry, but you should get a life. It's a video game. And player ratings in sports video games just happen to be a very contentious subject because every game player wants them as real as possible. Why, if the ratings aren't exactly how they are in real life, we might as well leave it on the shelf. We won't want to play season mode unless we know that it'll play out the upcoming Pistons season to a MF-T. If our little digital player stands at half court like Jesus, we expect a real player to do exactly that in precisely the same game on the schedule.
Of course, the ratings (and really weird glitches) are taken into account when also deciding which game to buy. Usually, for the NBA game players, the decision is between NBA2k11 or EA's NBA Live. For now, I have all the NBA2k11 average team ratings, highest rated player on each team (with other notables), and a link to full roster ratings for 12 teams (and a link to every projected starting five, if you missed it above). All of the Pistons ratings are after the jump (and you should be really excited to know that the Pistons' full roster rating -- 69 -- averages out to be better than the No. 1 Heat's -- 68.533, repeating of course. That MUST be what Rodney Stuckey was talking about when he said the Pistons have the best team on paper).
Eastern Conference:
1. Miami Heat: 82.2 (James and Wade: 97)
2. Boston Celtics: 80.2 (Rondo: 87)
3. Orlando Magic: 78.4 (Howard 88)
4. Chicago Bulls: 77.8 (Rose and Boozer: 85)
5. Atlanta Hawks: 77.6 (Johnson: 88)
6. Milwaukee Bucks: 76 (Maggette: 78)
7. New York Knicks: 75 (Stoudemire: 86)
8. Philadelphia 76ers: 74 (Iguodala: 85)
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9. Detroit Pistons: 73.4 (Hamilton: 77)
10. Charlotte Bobcats: 73.4 (Jackson and Wallace 84)
11. Washington Wizards: 73.2 (Arenas: 83, Wall: 81)
12. New Jersey Nets: 73 (Lopez: 81)
13. Cleveland Cavaliers: 71.4 (Jamison: 78)
14. Indiana Pacers: 70.6 (Granger: 83)
15. Toronto Raptors: 67.8 (Barbosa 75)
Western Conference
1. Los Angeles Lakers: 82.2 (Bryant: 97)
2. Houston Rockets: 79.4 (Ming: 83)
3. Dallas Mavericks: 79.2 (Dirk and KIDD: 83)
4. New Orleans Hornets: 79 (Paul 95)
5. Denver Nuggets: 78.6 (Anthony: 93)
6. Memphis Grizzlies: 78.2 (Gay: 81)
7. Utah Jazz: 78 (Williams: 92)
8. San Antonio Spurs: 77.2 (Duncan: 90, McDyess: 68)
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9. Portland Trail Blazers: 77 (Roy: 88)
10. Golden State Warriors: 76 (Ellis: 84, Lee: 83, Curry: 80)
11. Oklahoma City Thunder: 74.8 (Durant: 91)
12. Los Angeles Clippers: 73.6 (Davis 79)
13. Sacramento Kings: 71.8 (Evans: 82)
14. Phoenix Suns: 71.4 (Nash: 85)
15. Minnesota Timberwolves: 69 (Love and Flynn: 74)
What stuck out most to me was (1) Kidd being rated an extremely generous 84, (2) seeing the Thunder out of the playoffs after taking the champs to the brink of elimination in the first round of last year's playoffs -- Kevin Durant won't let them miss the playoffs, and (3) Paul being ranked higher than D. Williams -- I know the debate of who's better has been had many times, in many places, including here.
If you strongly disagree with any particular rating, one of your options is to send a zealous letter to the game's creator. The Ethan Albright letter to John Madden remains one of the funnier responses to a video game's player ratings, and it's better because it (supposedly) comes from the player himself. Feel free to try and top that in the comments here, but not before you take a look at the Pistons ratings after the jump.
PISTONS
77 – Tayshaun Prince (SF)*
76 – Ben Gordon (SG)
76 – Richard Hamilton (SG)
74 – Ben Wallace (C)
74 – Rodney Stuckey (PG)
73 – Tracy McGrady (SG)
71 – Charlie Villanueva (PF)
71 – Jason Maxiell (PF)
71 – Will Bynum (PG)
67 – Greg Monroe (C)
66 – Jonas Jerebko (SF)
62 – Chris Wilcox (C)
60 – Austin Daye (SF)
59 – Chucky Atkins (PG)
59 – DaJuan Summers (SF)
*You'll notice that Prince and Hamilton's ratings were flip-flopped, but the site that had all the starter ratings said they came straight from the folks at 2k, so I put Hamilton before the jump as the 77.
Video game will be released on Tuesday, October 5.
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What the hell? Jonas' rating is bringing us down?
Really? C’mon, 2k, give the Swedish Meatball a little more credit than that!
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Sep 24, 2010 1:32 AM EDT reply actions
Monta Ellis is an 84?
Furthermore, GOLDEN STATE IS BETTER THAN OKC? What the hell? OKC should be a top 5 team in the West, and Durant should be MUCH higher than a 91.
It’s nice to see the Bucks rated well, but how is Maggette their best player at 78? It should be Bogut, and he should be an 82 at the very least. 2k is never particularly impressive (AI was somehow an 83 last season even with roster updates), but this year’s ratings look horrific. It’s like these guys know nothing about basketball (the Ellis thing definitely supports this). Fortunately I can edit them to something that actually makes sense.
"Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans."
-ralphgoblue/thunder_god08
i read somewhere that the makers of the 2k series are HUGE Golden State fans. They have always been rated highly for absolutely no reason.
Don't be callin' me dog cause I want ya to say it backwards - Tech N9ne
by MaxiellEatsLittleOnes on Sep 28, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
This is why video game basketball never works...
Okay. Let’s look at what we have here.
Joe Johnson = Dwight Howard
Fascinating. Like, nobody at EA sports did a reality check on that one?
Andre Iguodala > Dirk Nowitzki
My guess is that this is so whoever plays as the Mavs can’t simply lob three-pointers all day. That said, if your rule got you here, what was the point of your rule?
Chris Paul > Deron Williams
There is a debate as to whether Paul is better than Williams? Maybe, insofar as Paul is a major injury risk. Otherwise, they got this one right.
The Suns at 14
If this happens, it will be proof that Amare Stoudemire is the best player in the NBA, and possibly the best in NBA history.
If you want better player rankings
Download Rashidi’s rankings from 2KShare. He has a site dedicated to just ranking players at thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com. I used his rankings all last year and was a lot happier with his than 2K.
All the time relaxed.
Part of the problem is it’s a composite ranking. Dwight Howard, for example, has an awful three-point rating. That would bring his score down, despite the fact that it doesn’t really matter. So guys that can do a lot of things well (Joe Johnson, for example) will be overrated compared to players that can do a few things awesomely. But it probably won’t affect gameplay too much.
I agree
The overall player ratings aren’t worth anything. What really matters is how good each player is at particular things. E.g., As long as you have two good rebounders and two guys who can get their own shots, you can win games.
Also, to their credit, 2k is pretty good about adjusting ratings on a weekly basis to correct mistakes.
The overall player ratings aren’t worth anything. What really matters is how good each player is at particular things.
True story.
Also, you can play with Chris Paul and have a 95 overall player but there has been 2K games (like last year’s) where he has one of the most awkward releases in the game making him extremely difficult to shoot with…you are almost better off shooting with Emeka Okafor than Paul.
And I quote: "Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans" - ralphgoblue
Also consider that if you go with live rosters, you'd be playing with him injured or not at all.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Sep 24, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Looking for...
Terr…ico…Terrico…White…Terrico White…..huh? No, Terrico White. I guess this year the Pistons will not have a legit Slam Dunk champion this year.
And I quote: "Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans" - ralphgoblue
You know, too often video games are just disappointing
Too much wasted potential. Makes me want to make my own video game – I was thinking of making it “Really Out of Shape People Performing Olympic Events.” Catchy title, eh? The smoker’s 400 medley. The drunk hurdles. The emo kids basketball. The obese long jump. The morbidly obese triple jump. The possibilities are endless. Now that’d be worth $50.
Someone who doesn't know what NBA2K11 is...
…might just be suffering from the problem of actually HAVING a life.
I'm expecting 100% improvement from the Lions this season.
Hi there!
It’s Rashidi (The Real 2K Insider), the guy you got this rating information from. Just letting you guys know I recently started lurking here once you started doing the Player Previews, which I find pretty informative.
Here are my 2K11 ratings that I formed with numerous advanced metrics and sources, including Synergy Sports Tech
75 – Tayshaun Prince (SF)
75 – Rodney Stuckey (PG/SG)
75 – Ben Gordon (SG)
74 – Richard Hamilton (SG/SF)
74 – Jason Maxiell (C/PF)
73 – Ben Wallace ©
72 – Will Bynum (PG)
71 – Jonas Jerebko (PF/SF)
71 – Tracy McGrady (SF/SG)
70 – Charlie Villanueva (PF)
70 – Greg Monroe (C/PF)
70 – Austin Daye (SF)
67 – Chris Wilcox (PF/C)
66 – Terrico White (SG/PG)
62 – DaJuan Summers (SF/PF)
As Stuckey said, the Pistons ARE deep, as they have a whopping 12 players with 70+ ratings But since none of them are stars, and only 5 can play at a given time, it’s going to be an uphill battle for them on most nights.
by Real 2K Insider on Sep 25, 2010 5:38 AM EDT reply actions
Btw, the typical practice for 2K is to overrate all the star players and underrate the bench players (most of whom get updated like once every 3-5 years), which is why my bench ratings differ so much from theirs. Austin Daye is exactly the type of player I’m talking about. He has the same exact ratings he had last season, but the lot of you would easily take him over Chris “WilCANT”. He’s only 1 point better than Summers for crying out loud!
JaVale McGee of the Wizards was recently tweeting about being rated only 59 overall – a legitimate beef when you look at the strides he made as a player last season (as well as the fact that 59 was too low to begin with considering Summers and Chucky Atkins are that low).
by Real 2K Insider on Sep 25, 2010 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Average NBA Starter Rating (My ratings)
PG: 77
SG: 75
SF: 75
PF: 77
C: 75
Stuckey (-2), Hamilton (-1), Prince (0), Jerebko (-6), Wallace (-2)
Average NBA Starter Rating (2K Sports)
PG: 75
SG: 73
SF: 73
PF: 74
C: 72
Stuckey (-4), Hamilton (3), Prince (4), Jerebko (-8), Wallace (+2)
2K seems to think 3 of the Pistons are above average for their position… that would indicate playoff team… but as we know, the Pistons didn’t come close last season and will be running the team plus T-Mac and Greg Monroe…
by Real 2K Insider on Sep 25, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d be curious to learn what algorithm 2k uses to come up with the overall rating system. E.g., Rip seems to be rated far too high overall. However, it does seem to me that guys who score lots of points without doing anything else get rated highly (Rudy Gay, another example). This would lead me to believe that attributes related to scoring are weighted more heavily.
RASHIDI!
Good to see you off the Gamefaqs NBA Board.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Sep 25, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Rondo better than Nash?
not IMO, and I’m no Nash fan.
If you can't spell practise write, then dont repond!
What about dribbling? Shooting? Creativity?
Nash has his D deficiencies, but C’mon, how to defend Rondo? Defend him. His team is stacked, everybody sags off of him to help on D and he can’t make an open shot. His dribbling has gotten better, but it’s still not a strength (more times than not you’ll see Pierce or Allen carrying the ball up the floor). Maybe I’m just a Rondo hater with blinders on (most likely)? I just don’t see him having the same stats without that team, the stats lie.
If you can't spell practise write, then dont repond!
Let’s be fair – Ray Allen is a shell of his former self.
Rondo is the league’s top defensive PG, and I don’t exactly see how Boston is “helping” his stats aside from shooting percentage. I mean, it’s not like he’d be worse than Brevin Knight, considering their gap in athleticism.
by Real 2K Insider on Sep 26, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
rondo is better than nash
rondo is pretty damn creative as well. anyone still bringing out that “big 3 pad his stats” argument is boston hating. which im fine with but give credit where credits due. rondo is one of those dudes that plays for a team i hate that i would want on the stones.
Soo......
Tayshaun Prince is the highest rated player on the team?
Another painful reminder of our collective fall from grace.
by Big Z in Orlando on Sep 27, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions

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