Pistons 75, Suns 74: MFWB to the MF rescue, MFers
by Mike Payne on Jan 22, 2011 10:45 PM EST
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PrintTo start, a bit of history. The last time the Pistons beat the Suns, they did so in overtime on a strong performance by both Chauncey Billups and Rasheed Wallace. Three years and five losses later, the new look Pistons finally earned a win against the Suns. This isn't just a simple dub in the game logs, this was a pounding of historic magnitude. If you watched the game, you probably think I'm out of my mind for making that statement.
If you loved last night's game against the Nets, tonight's game against the Suns was just as fun. It was the most unwatchable, ugly and disheartening basketball you can find in the modern NBA, but somehow the Pistons squeaked out a win. Not just a win, but a win that hasn't been dropped on Phoenix in five years-- Phoenix has only scored less than 74 points 11 times in franchise history, the last time being March of 2006. Had Channing Frye not taken that last second, uncontested, stat-padding 3-pointer, this would have been one of two of the lowest point totals in Phoenix Suns history. Why is this important? Because the Suns are notoriously score-y, lauded for putting up ridiculous numbers night-in, night-out.
How the hell did Detroit do this? It all happened in the 4th quarter, and it all happened in the palms of MFWB (that stands for Mightily Fast William of Bynum to those new to DBB). Okay, to be fair, it was the Will Bynum and Austin Daye show, both of which combined for the numbers that put Detroit over the top in the closing minutes. At this point, the Pistons were down 17 points, the average margin of their last five losses to Phoenix. Bynum was active on both ends of the floor, stripping the ball from Steve Nash, hitting lay-ups, drawing fouls and draining jumpers. Daye and Bynum led Detroit in +/- with +6 and +5 respectively, sealing the deal on a game that was held by Tayshaun Prince while everything else was pretty much falling apart.
This game was ugly in a sense that you need to add a few more g's to that word-- you know, ugggggly. It was not fun to watch. The 3rd quarter was enough to force call-waiting at the suicide hotline, it felt like you were watching the last game this franchise would ever play. Fortunately, Tayshaun Prince managed to keep the ball alive with 17 points, 13 rebounds and 5 assists, a rather unreal performance in light of some pretty constant criticism from yours truly and otherwise.
As the score suggests, this win was as close as it gets, and it almost got away from the Pistons. Will Bynum missed a free throw to open up a 3-point lead with less than a minute to play, but fortunately Tayshaun Prince grabbed the offensive rebound and an immediate foul. He, too, missed a free throw, so Detroit had a 3-point margin in the closing seconds of the game. But before Phoenix could hit an inbound pass to run their final play, Rodney Stuckey decided to foul Steve Nash, apparently just to give everyone watching a massive rage headache. With the margin now at 2, favoring Detroit, Channing Frye missed a 3-pointer that MFWB rebounded and then immediately took the foul to close out the game.
This game was ugly. It was the kind of game you'd wake up to in bed the morning after a bender and decide, not only will I never drink again, I will immediately commit to the priesthood. Castration might even be in order. But somehow, some way, the Pistons won, and it's all on the shoulders of our tiniest player with a heart of gold, MF Will Bynum. Thanks Will. If anything at all, at least you shut Eddie Johnson's shit-eating mouth until we play Phoenix again. That dude is aching for Ben Wallace to show up at his house at 4:00 a.m. with a sledge hammer and a smile. "You think it's a joke that I should even be considered for the Hall of Fame? That's real interesting, Eddie. Let's talk about it. Meanwhile, let's talk about whether your knees should be considered for the Hall of Walking Out the Door Tomorrow Morning".
If you Tivo'd/DVR'd this game, do yourself a favor. Don't watch it. It was painful. If anything, put on your Bynum jersey and watch the last five minutes. Tonight, Will Bynum earned Detroit a win, and a good portion of that paycheck he received this summer.
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This team needs a massive overhaul....
Why I keep hearing about making a playoff push for Blaha and Special K is beyond anything I can understand. This team is total crap. Role-players thrown together on a squad that just don’t mix. We are basically the Cavs on steroids. I understand the lottery doesn’t bring you a superstar everytime, and that even young star players don’t make your team better in a season but this team needs one and BAD.
No more Rodney Stuckey. He isn’t a point-guard and he isn’t a starting two guard. This guy is awful. He is a slightly better version of Flip Murray. A combo-guard off the bench is what Stuckey’s position should be. I swear, I can’t stand him anymore. Even when he has a good game, he is still awful. How many chargers does it take for you to understand that you should try something new? Oh wait, you have a mediocre jumper that doesn’t do you any better. No more Stuckey. No more Rip. They both need to go by this deadline.
I’m done ranting for now.
by hoopaddict08 on Jan 22, 2011 11:28 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Here’s the thing with Stuckey. He can’t run the point, and BG is better than him at the two. For the money he’s gonna cost us the best thing we can do is trade him.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 22, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Trade him when? What if JOD is unsuccessful at finding a trade partner? Would resigning him be a mistake?
Is This The 2011 Version Of..
“long, smooth, strokes it”?
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 23, 2011 4:39 AM EST up reply actions
Why I keep hearing about making a playoff push for Blaha and Special K is beyond anything I can understand.
huh?
MFDLN!!
You haven't heard?
This year our playoff push is going to a good cause. The Pistons are going to donate $1 into the “Blaha-Kelser Forever Fund” every time any one in the media use the words ‘Playoffs’, ‘Eighth Seed’, or ‘Mathematically Possible’ in a sentence. The money from this will go to support the Forever Funds main mission:
Cryogenically saving the brains and vocal cords of Blaha and integrating Regenivoice technology to allow future Pistons fans the joy of hearing Blaha and Special K calling Piston games for years to come.
Crazy right? The technology is at the edge of edge of human comprehension. You’ll keep hearing that this year we are making our playoff push for Blaha and Special K! It’s beyond anything I can understand.
by tads on Jan 23, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Bynum always has his good games at home, it seems
But it was awesome to watch!
The only reason I've come close to feeling contempt towards Dumars
is that his asshasness has led me to loathe Rip and Tay. I want them gone so bad that I can only see their fuckery. I shouldn’t feel this way towards players with such long, successful tenure with the team.
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by Kriz on Jan 22, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I am just amazed at the things this team does
both in losses and wins.
by Wheaties on Jan 23, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I just watched the game on DVR. My take: Resigning Stuckey would be a massive mistake, he can’t play point and BG is better at the two.
Or, to put it another way—
Resigning Stuckey would be a massive mistake, he can’t play point and BG is better at the two. For the money he’s gonna cost the best move would be to trade him now.
maybe Dumars is showcasing Stuckey, but
Doubt that he’ll be traded. It would be like Joe admitting that the Chauncey trade was a mistake
In other news, the Sun is hot
Going around saying the AI/Billups trade worked is like going around with hair plugs and talking about your rich, lush, natural hair. Joe Dumars should look up sunk costs on the interwebs and move on.
Been waiting for this one
The last few games against these guys sucked cause of the amount of 3’s the suns sunk. So when Pietrus threw up that late 3, I wanted to wipe that smirk off his face. But then I realized he was smiling cause that 3 got him out of his own slump. No matter, the Pistons won.
The Boomushurns Has a Plan
As per a recent thread, the inimitable tandem The Boourns and MrHappyMushroom (bow taken) has proposed that the mods configure this site to prevent the use of the word pl**of*s for the remainder of the season, and replace any attempt to write the pointless and impractical word with “Red Pandas”.
Thus, “Hey, we keep up the good play…If BG finds his stroke…If T-Mac brings his play to all all-star level…if Stuckey’s three ball develops…and we can get good value—ideally a few skilled big men for a package of Rip, Tay, and Max—this team could actually make some noise in the Red Pandas!”
DO IT, MOD!!!! DO IT!!!!
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 23, 2011 1:24 AM EST reply actions
One Of The Worst Games I've Ever Seen
And the Suns got beat by a poor man’s Allen Iverson. There is a reason why Bynum makes $3M/year, and why he was out of the rotation for a while. Too many times he’d come in as the 10th, 11th man, and thought he could win the game single handedly. And be wrong. The fact that it was against Phoenix, who predictably had no answer for this, is just fool’s gold. We shot 35.8% against the worst defense in the league.
Tayshaun had what, 17 points on about 300 shots? It’s no coincidence that he only took two shots in about the last 8 minutes of the game, which is where the comeback started. The rest of his stat line looked ok, but he missed too many open looks.
Nobody played really well, but the one positive you could take out of this was that Austin Daye can hit big shots in the clutch, he hit a couple here late last night.
Now if you want the truth, I think we’ll be a lot better next year. The one thing Kuester is doing right is that he’s letting Daye and Monroe close out games, also, they’ve earned the right to do so. I still think Kuester should let Daye play the 2 some, first, he’s a better shooter than any of the guards, second, it would allow for a more natural front line of Ben/Tay/Monroe (Wilcox), third, Tay and Daye can switch off on defense, and it would cause some matchiup problems for the opposing team on defense. I’d muhc rather talka bout next year that about the p———s.
just Vpinion
Now if you wantthe truthmy opinion, I think we’ll be a lot better next year
Fixed that for ya.
by Gabe F-B on Jan 24, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
More Stripper Fables
Many years ago, there was a notorious strip club in San Francisco called the Market Street Cinema. It was an old porno house when people went outside their homes to watch porn, in the late 20th Centruy. It’s still there, but not nearly as notorious. I was supposed to meet some friends there later on after dinner (Hunan, which has been around forever, and still rocks).
So we get in the cab, and we instruct the driver, an Indian fellow (obviously moonlighting from his day job as a phone bank guy or programmer) to take us to the MSC. He asks, where’s that?
We were kind of dumbfounded by this, since your biggest clue would be in the dba of the business, this is kind of like asking who’s buried in Grant’s Tomb. Especially since Market is one of SF’s main drags (maybe a poor choice of words, considering SF, but I’m sticking with it).
A $7 fare later (where it should have been about $4) the cabbie found the place. No, I didn’t say, Harry, keep the change.
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 24, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe he was playing dumb just in case you knew one of his wives.
This signature is false.
by heWizard on Jan 24, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Who Needs Pizza?
Hunan still rocks, after being around 30-something years now. You go for the kung pao chicken, and bring a fire hose to wash it down with.
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 25, 2011 4:44 AM EST up reply actions
How does a 4-2 stretch look so bad?
Partly, I think, it’s that this (as Kriz says) team is insane. Every time they’ve given any hint of getting their collective shit together and being at least a competent team, they’ve gone out and looked like the worst team in the NBA.
The January 2011 Pistons followed a three game winning streak and a genuinely impressive effort against the Celts with what might be the seven worst consecutive quarters they’ve played all year.
Yeah, they pulled it out last night, which should give us hope. But I’ve given up for the year that these guys might sudden realize that they are not castrati and pull out a significant number of tough wins.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 23, 2011 7:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 23, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Had to look it up to be sure...
..but I guessed the spelling right!
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 23, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
hate to say it
but we actually could’ve really used chunky charlie’s one dimensional play this game, considering how stagnant our offence was
The most fun I've had at The Palace in a long time
Yes, this was one of the worst games I’ve ever seen from two NBA teams at the same time. Something about being there live underscored the point for me. It literally looked like it was a practice scrimmage session, with people jogging through offensive sets, making lazy passes, etc.
The exception throughout the game was Tayshuan. Yes, scoring 17 points on 19 shots is not statistically impressive, and I’d not normally say this, but he was much better than his shooting performance suggests. He literally looked like the only Piston (apart from Ben Wallace) who gave a crap through the first 3 quarters. He piggy-backed us last night, and MFWB doesn’t have a chance to shine without that effort.
Some highlights from being at the game:
It was very rewarding to see the organization promote mentoring so much. I don’t know if this came through the broadcast or not, but they interviewed mentors and mentees during timeouts, which was pretty cool. My mentee was 1 of 20 kids who were part of the fan tunnel that welcomed players on the floor — I’m sure he’s never going to forget that.
Marcin Gortat is a very solid Centre.
I’ve never heard the Palace so quiet and so loud on the same night. During the third, you could have heard a pin drop. It was embarrassing. But during the 4th quarter comeback, the Palace became as loud as I’ve heard it in several years. The building was probably 75%-80% based on my eyeball judgment, and the fans responded to Bynum, Tay, and Daye during the 4th quarter. It’s the most excited I’ve been to be a Pistons fan in a while, too, just like the good old days.
Also, (and certainly not to be inflammatory in any way at all) kudos to Kuester — who coached a terrible game through 3 quarters — for going to the bench to find the spark plug, MFWB, and riding him through the end of the game. We don’t win last night if we ride our starters all game.
by brgulker on Jan 23, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions 10 recs
Forgot one tidbit
During the first quarter, with no prompting from me (I promise!), my mentee blurts outs:
“Stuckey’s jumper is like my bank account, flat broke!” I got a huge lol from that.
by brgulker on Jan 23, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
pictured right...
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 23, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Nope. bgulker
heWizard mixed up the tag.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 24, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
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just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 23, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Re Tay
I don’t want to become the designated Tay defender, but, sure his scoring wasn’t super-efficient in the big scheme of things, but it was fairly efficient by the standards of that game. And 13 rebounds and 5 assists is good. Bynum played well in the clutch, as did Daye, but as MP said, Tay held it together so that could happen.
Re Re tay:
He gets to the rack pretty well, and it looks good goin in.
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 23, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Good Win
That was a hard fought win against the Suns last night. The Pistons need to trade Rip. he isn’t doing anyone any good just sitting on the bench. In fact, they need to deal him and another swigman. They just have too many. Greg Monroe could be a solid piece for the future, but they need another young big.
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Interesting theory.
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 23, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
That may be true and all, but the bigger issue here is that resigning Stuckey would be a massive mistake, he can’t play point and BG is better at the two. For the money he’s gonna cost the best move would be to trade him now.
"You’d be surprised what you can accomplish if you’re not concerned with making sense!"- PS
by bugman222 on Jan 23, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Beautiful
Will Bynum was so good Saturday night, he invited two Raptors players to try to defend him in Detroit’s win against the Suns. Bynum beat not just 5 defenders, but 7, as shown above.
Thank you, Glow-In-The-Dark Baby Jesus. The Lions needed the wins and I know you will lead us to a Super Bowl.
I Steve Kays a member of DBB?
Seems lots of #Pistons fans on the interwebs are calling for Dumars to trade Rodney Stuckey before the deadline since he’s not a good PG and Ben Gordon is a better SG than he is. Thoughts?
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by Kriz on Jan 23, 2011 7:58 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
lol...
DBB is everyone’s source of latest Pistons gossip. Personally I think Stuckey + Rip for Tyreke Evans and Dalembert is a pretty fair trade.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I'd ask for something else
After all, the Pistons are the ones giving up the veteran leadership.
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And sexiness...
We’d definitely be giving up sexiness.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 23, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
An open letter to Steve Kays—
Resigning Stuckey would be a massive mistake, he can’t play point and BG is better at the two. For the money he’s gonna cost the best move would be to trade him now.
Signed—
A red panda
by -PS- on Jan 23, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
side note
you ever have those facebook friends that post entirely useless posts on their wall that show up in your feed? I’m talking one-word, empty updates that make you wonder why someone would even post it? For example “breakfast”. Very cool, facebook user, breakfast is pretty awesome, I agree. Or “work”. Yeah, work is something virtually all of us do. “Kinda bored” is another big winner, to which you can only reply “upon reading your status update, I, too, am bored”.
Other favorite status updates?
“Outback Steakhouse!”
“Computer is so slow.”
“Friday!”
“Tired.”
“OMG Chipotle.”
“’Bout time Jim and Pam had a baby on the office.”
So I friended the aforementioned dude on Facebook and lost my mind at the status updates, to the point where I had to hit the fire button. Hey, maybe dude is only effective in 140 characters.
MFDLN!!
O.T. win
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 24, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
As They Say In The NFL
“wide right”, but some brothas…no such thing as “wide”. :)
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 24, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
This Is Why Social Networking Is So Lame
I have always thought of myself as the perfect mix of Old School and 21st Century, but people are just dumber and more ADDled now than they used to be.
Consider “Outback Steakhouse!” for a moment. Let’s dissect this one from the back. First, WTF is up with all these folks who need to use a “!” to make their point? Are they that terminally boring? And let me tell you, While Foster’s may be Australian for beer, Outback is Australian for “Sizzler”. So not only are they boring, they are declasse’ as well.
As for “OMG Chipotle”, I love Chipotle, but unless Chipotle wants to discuss an endorsement deal with The Godfather of DBB, I’m keeping my mancrush to myself and not wasting any bandwidth over pimping their good name on the Interwebs. As for “OMG”, I can give much better examples of what it’s like to see God than to eat a burrito made entirely hormone free. Now that I think about it, I think I’ll do lunch there today. I won’t be tweeting it either.
I am just getting to understand Twitter, it actually is an important social networking tool. (I think I will add y’all) But, 90% still misuse it. Why I should hang in suspense waiting for someone to text message the world is a mystery to me.
You won’t see me on Facebook or MySpace anytime soon.
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 24, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't tweet
But I have an account that I use to search. Twitter is really good at instant news. For example last year at the mtv music awards kanye west did the “imma let you finish” thing. On facebook all you get is “OMG Kanye you DICK!” Then a quick jump to twitter search and you find out exactly what happened.
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 24, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Its good for sport
Free agent period, trade deadline draft and fantasy (injuries). Plus locally there isn’t 4 hour news like in the US so if i want quick news odds twitter is the place to get it.
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It's Good For Bloggers
…and following their feeds. If you want to know what’s going on in the casino business, the awesome David McKee @stiffsgeorges is the man to follow.
I also follow the equally awesome John Amato @crooksandliars as well a few other bloggers.
I also follow DBB, but more out of honor..sometimes I feel like I live on DBB.
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 26, 2011 4:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Totally agreed
If my site is unresponsive, the first thing I do is go to twitter and search the name of my hosting provider. If I see 1000 responses within an hour, bingo— my host is the problem. I used to run a news publication and would get the scoop on slower publications by hitting up a trending topic there. It’s a pretty valuable research tool, I’m with you completely.
MFDLN!!
In Canada, It's Twittre. That's Probably Why You Don't Get It.
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 25, 2011 4:46 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Yeah, I have an account but never actually tweet anything. Maybe that should be a goal this year — tweet more. Supposedly it’s good for business because all my wedding photographer friends swear by it.
by garrettelliott on Jan 26, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
Will Bynum for President
If you think you can dunk like Will Bynum, than this is for you:
http://dimemag.com/2011/01/can-you-dunk-like-will-bynum-prove-it/#more-67053
I used to be able to grab the rim…
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 24, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Why isn’t Bynum in the dunk contest, if they were looking for a little guy?
by garrettelliott on Jan 24, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
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