PG of the future: Ricky Rubio?
by mgoblue4ever on Jan 24, 2011 12:03 PM EST
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PrintAs I'm sure many of you are aware, Minnesota is sometimes cold and dreary during the NBA season. Surprisingly, the Spaniard Ricky Rubio has also become acquainted with this astonishing fact. And when you combine the great weather in Minnesota with the great overall talent on the roster and the great GM in David Kahn, Rubio has supposedly said no thanks to playing in Minnesota.
So, the question is, would the Pistons be interested in acquiring Rubio? He was at one time billed as the next big thing, and "fell" to the Timberwolves at the number five overall pick when Steph Curry and a bunch of other great young PGs were still on the board. His trade value, however has decreased as he seems to think that he is LeBron James and his production in Spain has not been exactly what the T-Wolves were hoping for when they drafted him.
Rubio certainly still has potential. He could be a Rajon Rondo-like player for the Pistons. However, the Pistons are still missing the Ray Allen Paul Pierce, and KG in this equation.
The Pistons hopefully don't have their PG of the future on their roster today. T-Mac will likely not be on the team next year, but even if he is, he is not the future. Stuckey has proven to not be PG. Will Bynum is a good backup. Terrico White is likely just a Stuckey clone. There are going to be some PGs in the draft such as Kemba Walker, Kyrie Irving, and Brandon Knight, but none of them would be a guarantee. So, it probably makes sense to inquire about Rubio's availability, but there are two main concerns: 1. How much is it going to take to get Rubio out of Minnesota and in Detroit? 2. Does Rubio view Detroit as any different than Minnesota? For discussion purposes, we will have to assume that he would like to come to Detroit, unless anyone has any insider information otherwise. So, what would you give up for Rubio?
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Summers for Rubio, Love, and a pick. DO IT JOD!
by -PS- on Jan 24, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I can guarantee you that Rubio views Detroit no differently than Minnesota
His family has been much clearer about what he wants out of the NBA and that is to play for an east coast team (especially Knicks, Celtics…surprise surprise). That said, I’m not sure what happens if he refuses to play for Minnesota and Minnesota’s rights expire.
I suppose there is a distinct possibility that Brooklyn could enter the picture here. Rubio doesn’t really want to come over to the NBA until the new CBA is worked out so at earliest that the 2012-2013 season. By that time, the Nets should be less than a season away from Brooklyn and assuming they can acquire some additional talent to go with Favors and Lopez, Rubio could be a very smart pick up as he definitely won’t warrant a huge contract but could contribute immediately.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Hell, I'd Rather Play In Barcelona Than Minnesota
But I think the issue is..doesn’t Minnie already have a starting point guard or two?
I’ve seen Rubio play, he has huge upside and could play in the NBA. I don’t get all the family’s handwringing and micro managing of his career, unless they’re considering the Euroleague like college for him.
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 24, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I think its more that they don't want to be too far apart from him...
difference between east coast and Minnesota is pretty considerable and flying into Minnesota in the middle of the winter is not to be taken lightly.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
trade him for joe dumars. I heard kahn LOVES jod’s game.
by C$ on Jan 24, 2011 1:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I also don't think he'd look at detroit as different from minesota
Bad weather, bad team.
However I have also thought about getting him and though I don’t think it’s likely, if he wanted to come I’d give up a top-5 protected first rounder and a second rounder or some other more or less equivalent deal. Though he hasn’t had tremendous stats in europe, he’s the starting PG for one of the continent’s best teams at the age of 20, plays good defense and makes good decisions.
I. Do. Not. Want. Ricky. Rubio.
I’ve made several long drawn out posts. He’s the poor man’s Nash. Defense likely as good, and he can’t shoot. Why would we go for him?
If there’s some package where we get out of Rip’s deal and get Rubio, I’d take that. Otherwise, no.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 24, 2011 4:43 PM EST reply actions
Just cause he's not Steve Nash doesn't mean that he's not good
Ignoring T-Mac (who’s not a PG and will not be with the Pistons forever) I think Rubio would probably be the piston’s best PG immediately. I’m totally not sold on Rubio, but I think Joe D should definitely give Kahn a call. Kahn might just want to be done with this whole deal, and give Rubio away for cheap. However, this is obviously unlikely.
by mgoblue4ever on Jan 24, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think Rubio would probably be the piston’s best PG immediately
Based on what objective rationale?
MFDLN!!
I think Rubio would probably be the piston’s best [Spanish teenage hearthrob] PG immediately.
by TDP on Jan 25, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So you bring in the hot players… then you get the hot chicks… then you get the fans back!
Brilliant!!
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
Ricky Rubio
Being from Spain, I can only imagine he’d bring in more than his fair share of hairy women.
/i have a feeling that comment was somehow offensive’d
/blissful ignorance’d
Well
I have razors. And I’m not afraid of making them take their clothes off so they can shave. ; )
And I’m sure Penelope Cruz understands long, smooth, and stoking.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
And if she doesn’t, I’m perfectly willing to give her an introductory course.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 30, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody else think Ricky Rubio is going to suck over here?
He projects to be Steve Nash, but what really sets Steve Nash apart is his relentless fire and drive to be the best. He gets beat up constantly and keeps going because he wants to win. Rubio doesn’t want to come to the U.S. because he’s scared of the weather. I think his ceiling is Jason Williams, and his floor might be right back in the Euro leagues after 3 years.
Ricky Rubio is one of those players I love to watch but I don’t want on my NBA team.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 24, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
another thing that sets nash apart from rubio:
nash can shoot.
i love rondo, who also cant shoot but he makes up for it with decent d and great assists. rubio cant shoot and by all accounts cant play d. ill pass.
Question:
Hypothetically, if the pistons did get Rubio, could they sign him to the Pistons immediately and have him play right away? (assuming we clear a roster spot for him)
Dude, seriously. Rubio has never played a minute of NCAA basketball or NCAA basketball. Yes, I know he’s a pro overseas, but the game doesn’t always translate. I’m going to assume that there’s a reason he remains overseas and that no NBA team has tried to make a play for his rights. He’s the very definition of an unproven unknown. He’s not worth sacrificing even one asset for.
I don't think there is any reason a team needs to make a play for his rights...
when they know he doesn’t want to play in Minnesota. If he never plays in Minnesota, I’m pretty sure he can either elect to go into the draft again once his rights expire or simply sign with whomever he wants.
If the latter is true, then New York can simply wait for his rights to be available to offer him a rookie contract.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
In order to go into the draft again
I’m reasonably sure he would have to forgo any professional basketball for a full year. Meaning he couldn’t play for the Euroleague either. It is an option, but I can’t imagine it is in his best interest.
"You’d be surprised what you can accomplish if you’re not concerned with making sense!"- PS
ahhhh okay...so then if Minnesota's rights to his contract expire, does he just become a free agent?
Because that would actually be more advantageous to him?
That actually brings up the question…when exiting the NCAA or another pro league and wanting to play in the NBA, do you absolutely have to declare for the draft? Could a known college player choose not to declare but opt to become a free agent right off the bat and in so doing be able to sign with the team he wants to play for vs. the team that drafts him?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Acutally an interesting question
What seperates the skilled, drafted players from the dregs that make the pros but don’t get drafted? But i’m guessing the answer is that to gain entry, the NBA requires all potential players to declare for the draft in order to meet prerequisites for employment. Kinda like having a degree or passing a drug test to ordinary surly folks.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
More like Ricky Noob-io.
Get it? I made a funny.
by Quick Darshan on Jan 26, 2011 3:03 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Just looking at the poll
there is a very wide range of opinions on how much Rubio is worth.
So, one GM will likely overpay for him.
Unfortunately, Kahn cannot overpay for Rubio since Rubio is already on his team. Someone else will have to step it up and do Kahn’s job for him.
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