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Mozgov Square Garden: Knicks 124, Pistons 106

Ben Gordon dropped 35 points on 12-21 shooting (7-11 from beyond the arc), Greg Monroe added 15 points with 17 (!) rebounds, and the Pistons shot 55% from three as a team (after shooting 83% in the first half). As Mr. Keith Langlois said, it would've been nice to celebrate those in victory. 

The Pistons went cold in the 4th quarter (4-13; 31%), though, and refused to begin playing defense when they needed it most. In turn, they were outscored 33-15 in the quarter and 124-106 for the game -- an 18-point loss despite being tied going into the 4th. 

These colossal collapses happen all too often and it's tiring. Literally, I fell asleep in the 4th quarter for a few minutes. When I was awake, I was acting out Greg Monroe's post-game tweetcronym:

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The Knicks got unsurprising big games from Amar'e Stoudamire (33 points) and Danilo Gallinari (29 points), but some guy named Timothy Mozgov (who spells his first name how a four-year-old would say it -- Timofey) had a coming out party thanks to injuries and early foul trouble to Ronny Turiaf. The seven-foot-one Russian Mozgov scored 23 points and grabbed 14 rebounds in 40 minutes. He hadn't seen a single minute since January 9th and hadn't racked up 40 minutes combined in his last eight games played. Not a bad game for the rook to get the taste of Blake Griffin's dunks (amongst other things) out of his mouth.

If the Pistons are going to hang around and make a serious playoff push, they need to figure out how to not waste these very winnable games. As it stands now, they're four back of the eight-seed and on a three-game losing streak but could easily be basking in a two-game winning streak.

More after the jump, GE!

Star-divide

  • Ben Gordon, who grew up in New York, was nicknamed "Madison Square Gordon" for his big performances at the Garden, including being named Big East tournament MVP while he was at U-Conn. That explains the punny title.
  • This is only the 2nd time this season Gordon has taken 20-plus shots. He scored 25 points (and had seven rebounds) in the other.
  • Despite Gordon's offensive explosion, he only shot four times in the 4th quarter (2-4 and two free throws) and was a team worst minus-17 for the game.
  • Kuester had a quick hook with Austin Daye tonight, who saw just 10 minutes of action. In those minutes, he had a couple turnovers and was 0-3 shooting. He had been averaging 30 minutes per game in the past five games. After the game, a disappointed Daye vowed to hit the gym as soon as the team got home.
  • This allowed DaJuan Summers to see some run. He played 12 minutes and picked up his first assist of the season.
  • Langlois predicted a 124-120 Pistons win after the first half due to the Pistons scoring 31 and 31 opposed to the Knicks 30 and 30. Not a bad guess if the Pistons had stuck to the script.
  • Monroe's 17 rebounds is a season (and career) high for him. His previous high was 15 at Minnesota on Dec. 10. 
  • Good to see Tayshaun Prince taking 17 shots and only making six. So much fun.
  • Rip Hamilton's name was nowhere to be seen on the ESPN box score. At least the reasons for Ben Wallace and Rodney Stuckey's DNPs were specified.
  • This from the Associated Press recap
  • The Knicks wanted to play fast, with the "pace" written all over their locker room board. But Detroit had no problem keeping up, shooting 60 percent in the first quarter and staying there until a little more than 2 minutes remaining in the half.
  • Pistons were shooting 55% (36-66) going into the 4th quarter. They were averaging 22 shots per quarter and, as you know, only registered 13 in the 4th.
  • Box score
  • Roll Call: TDP, -PS-, dandresden, Roll The Dyess, garrettelliott, JumpingBlob, Kriz, Toledo Joe, Grant E., Packey, alaskanpistonsfan, bringbacktheworm28, need4detroit, don'tworryaboutit, The Boourns, heWizard, gordbrown, Trout Jefferson, W. Stones, Mike Payne, Laughton, curlyfries, Taiwanese Tora, Tenbatsu, kenshi, King Henry the 2nd, V., Ol Dirty Harry, Biz Markie Moon, Shinons, tads, JoeDip, Fadel, bearded thundar, Prevenge

    Total Users: 35
    Total Posts: 598
    Total Threads: 1

    Name# of Posts
    The Boourns 101
    -PS- 96
    dandresden 70
    garrettelliott 43
    Trout Jefferson 41
    Mike Payne 34
    bringbacktheworm28 27
    Biz Markie Moon 25
    Packey 20
    Kriz 18
    kenshi 16
    Roll The Dyess 15
    W. Stones 11
    heWizard 10
    Shinons 8
    Taiwanese Tora 8
    Laughton 8
    tads 7
    Fadel 5
    alaskanpistonsfan 5
    need4detroit 5
    TDP 4
    Tenbatsu 4
    gordbrown 4
    JumpingBlob 3
    JoeDip 1
    Prevenge 1
    Toledo Joe 1
    bearded thundar 1
    King Henry the 2nd 1
    don'tworryaboutit 1
    curlyfries 1
    V. 1
    Ol Dirty Harry 1
    Grant E. 1

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Ha!

Thanks for the shout out, Packey. See? I’m learning!

by garrettelliott on Jan 31, 2011 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

rec'd

for

More after the jump, GE!

F***KING TAYSHAUN ISOLATION.

by Mike Payne on Jan 31, 2011 1:05 AM EST reply actions  

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F***KING TAYSHAUN ISOLATION.

by Mike Payne on Jan 31, 2011 1:10 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

On one hand, I’m happy Greg Monroe pulled down 17 boards. On the other hand, it was against a D’Antoni team. Same with his scoring.

by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 31, 2011 2:08 AM EST reply actions  

F*** It, Let's Go to The Lottery

Dee-troit Basketball is not about getting to the playoffs and getting swept 4-0. Dee-troit Basketball is about rings. Do not anyone ever forget that here.

Next year, we’ll have another high draft pick, a new owner (one could only hope), JJ will be back, the youngsters will have another year of experience. I think we’re going to be fine. Just make the changes that need to be made…it’s like sweeping out bad karma.

just Vpinion

by V. on Jan 31, 2011 4:28 AM EST reply actions  

F*** It, Let's Go to The Lottery

Dee-troit Basketball is not about getting to the playoffs and getting swept 4-0. Dee-troit Basketball is about rings. Do not anyone ever forget that here.

Next year, we’ll have another high draft pick, a new owner (one could only hope), JJ will be back, the youngsters will have another year of experience. I think we’re going to be fine. Just make the changes that need to be made…it’s like sweeping out bad karma.

just Vpinion

by V. on Jan 31, 2011 6:22 AM EST reply actions  

OK but what you didn't mention was the FTA discrepancy

Just looking at the box score (I missed the game) one would think this game was ultimately decided by the fact that NY got 20 more free-throw attempts. In points-on-baskets-only, Detroit outscored NY (NY had one more made basket, but Detroit had way more made three-pointers).

Did the play of the game really justify that discrepancy?

Also, it’s probably not good when Detroit’s high man in assists is Wilcox, with four.

by Toledo Joe on Jan 31, 2011 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

I watched a quick replay this morning… and yeah, the FTA difference was ridiculous. I half-heartedly root for the Knicks against most teams other than the ‘stones, but after watching Amare and Gallo get superstar calls all night it’s going to be a little harder for me to do that.

by Gabe F-B on Jan 31, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

a lot to do with them attacking the basket (lots of P&Rs)

and us settling for jumpers, which were going in for the most part.

by Packey on Jan 31, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Free throw differential jumped out at me too

I do think that some of the free throw differential was due to style of play. Some of it was due to the usual Pistons getting screwed. But I think the point is that even if the differential was more realistic, New York still would have had more trips to the line and enough that the outcome would have been more respectable but not any different. Difference in the game was lack of ability to stop penetration (Bynum was really horrible) and the fact that the jumpers stopped falling at the start of the fourth (happened before, saved third quarter collapse for fourth). Of course, those jumpers weren’t the same quality as before which might have explained it. Bottom line, missing Stuckey and Wallace continues to hurt the team. CV playing hurt also isn’t helping.

by gordbrown on Jan 31, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

ONLY 4 games back from the 8th seed?

I wish they were 8 games back from the 8th seed. I also wish that they trade Rip-Tay-Stuckey-TMac at the deadline and take some useless bodies back for the rest of the season with some extra draft picks and go into the lottory again.

by mot0wn84 on Jan 31, 2011 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Mozgov was my Parakouskhi

Eastern European Center I wanted Joe D to go after. I didn’t realize he could shoot. He actually had a nice enough shooting form to make you think he could be a consistent shooter from ten feet.

by Quick Darshan on Jan 31, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Wild

I’m looking at his Euro stats from last year. Averaged 3.1 fouls per game in 13.6 minutes per game. Looks like you might be right about him though. Curious, what was it that you liked about him looking from the outside?

I guess we all have our pet Eastern European. Mine’s Milan Macvan.

It's true, I'm a rageaholic. I just can't live without rageahol!

by Shinons on Jan 31, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

My Pet Eastern European

Is most definitely NOT a male basketball player…. if you know what I mean.

by brgulker on Jan 31, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, is it Aaron Klug, the winner of the 1982 Nobel Peace Prize?

by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 31, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

In Soviet Russia, Nobel Prize wins YOU!

by -PS- on Jan 31, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I read his draftexpress profile

He was one of the highest rated free agents available in Europe. And he was the only one that was a shot-blocking/rebounding center.

I was hoping Dumars would go after him and/or Ian Mahinmi as big men to develop.

by Quick Darshan on Feb 1, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Blame it on me!

I missed the first three quarters and was only able to catch the 4th. My bad, guys and gals.

I do have to ask, though … haven’t we been griping about pace all season? At least for one game, it looks like the fast paced worked for just about everyone (except Tay, of course). How did the first 3 quarters look in this regard?

by brgulker on Jan 31, 2011 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

Very fun to watch. The first half and third quarter were the happy version of “The Team Jod Envisioned,” and the fourth quarter was the evil flip side.

Monroe did a great job on the boards and finishing around the basket, Gordon was making crazy jump shots, CV made some open 3’s, the rotation of interchangeable swingmen (TMac, Tay, Daye, Summers) did an okayish job filling in the blanks…

…and then in the 4th quarter, while the Knicks kept attacking the weak interior D, the Pistons jump shots stopped going in the basket and the team completely stopped rebounding. The end.

by Gabe F-B on Jan 31, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The first 3 quarters were fun to watch if you like scoring. Nobody on either team was playing D, and there were plenty of drives to the rim and offensive rebounds and stuff. I liked seeing Monroe work hard to get his even though guys weren’t passing him the ball unless he was way up top doing a hand-off thing with the PG.

by garrettelliott on Jan 31, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

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