Updates on three-team deal between Nets/Nuggets/Pistons, which would send Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton to Nets
by Packey on Jan 9, 2011 5:13 PM EST
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PrintThe updates have been streaming throughout the interwebz today, so I'll just plop them all here and you can let it all sink in. Take it for what it's worth.
Let's start where it all began, The Record:
In the proposed three-team trade, first reported by The Record on Friday, the main players the Nets would get in return are Anthony and point guard Chauncey Billups from Denver and Detroit shooting guard Richard Hamilton.
The Nets would send Devin Harris, rookie power forward Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow, Stephen Graham, Ben Uzoh and at least two first-round picks to Denver and Troy Murphy, Johan Petro and Quinton Ross to Detroit. The Nets also would receive big man Sheldon Williams from Denver and guard Terrico White from Detroit. Additional players would change teams to make the salaries match.
Due to the size of the deal, which would be the biggest in NBA history, it could be difficult to come together. But one league source said the sides were in "serious discussions," while another said talks "are progressing," and it’s possible something could happen with Anthony this week.
Snip.
A source said there have been some counteroffers made in the possible three-team trade with Denver Detroit [sic]. It’s believed the Nuggets are seeking more draft picks.
The Pistons are interested because they’re about to be sold and want to cut salary. Hamilton is due $25 million over the next two seasons. Murphy’s contract is expiring and Petro makes $6.75 million over the next two seasons.
The Record ignores other sources that say Billups has zero interest in becoming a Net, but I guess he has no choice in the matter and the Nets could always cross that bridge after the fact.
Let's also hope that's a typo in the first paragraph of the second snippet and Detroit is not considering giving up more draft picks to the Nuggets. Actually, I hope they're not considering giving up any draft picks.
Chris Iott has, now, twice directly refuted parts of The Record's reports:
Source says Terrico White, Quinton Ross NOT currently involved in trade talks involving Pistons, Nets and Nuggets. #Pistons #Nets #NBA
Those names -- White and Ross -- included in Bergen Record story regarding possible trade...
Vince Ellis also says none of the Pistons young core are part of the discussions and adds that the ultimate goal for the Pistons is Murphy and his expiring deal for Richard Hamilton (which, to me, sounds way too good to be true).*
Starting around 4 p.m. EST, Chris Broussard started to dump his source's information on his Twitter feed about the matter (in succession):
Sources say NJ-Den-Det talks "further along" than any of other recent 3-team scenarios (Cavs, Twolves, Blazers) were.
NJ wanting Det 1st round pick was deal-breaker, so NJ has backed off that. NJ now wants to send TMurphy & JPetro to Det for Rip.Detroit doesn't want Petro, so NJ currently trying to find landing spot for Petro. Detroit may eventually relent but rt now doesn't want JP
Detroit's motivation is big $ savings - $25 million w/ out Petro , just $17 mill with him.
No guarantee Melo will sign off on deal. He's mum about that. NJ likes chances though.
Broussard got the LeBron to Miami scoop, so he must be right here. This actually corroborates most of what we've heard from the Pistons beat writers. For what it's worth, NBA's insider Chad Ford regurgitated to his followers everything Broussard tweeted and said he was hearing the same.
Remember that asterisk from up above? Well, prepare to rub your eyes in disbelief, because Yahoo's master of the scoop Adrian Wojnarowski says the Nets are no longer asking for a 1st round pick, are looking to unload Petro elsewhere and the Pistons have LEVERAGE:
Detroit has leverage here, because Melo's agent is pushing Rip inclusion in bigger deal to NJ. Detroit may end up with a 1st out of deal.
He goes on:
Would Melo's agent work so hard to get Rip in deal, only have to client refuse $65M contract in NJ? Melo does waffle, but seems unlikely.
There's momentum toward getting a deal done, because Denver's ready. "They're getting a lot of pressure from Melo's people," executive says.
And, as I'm writing this, it's really picking up steam (via the original source):
One source said "tonight or tomorrow." Some things still need to be worked out, but it's picking up steam.
There could be a party up in hurrr soon.
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I want this to go down as soon as possible
would be Joe’s best move in forever
by Not a Gunslinger on Jan 9, 2011 5:22 PM EST reply actions
One thing this scenario is proving
The only asset in this league that is untouchable is a star center. Brooz Lopez is going nowhere!
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
From a fantasy perspective
I wonder who would get more minutes at the point for Denver, Harris or Lawson?
by Not a Gunslinger on Jan 9, 2011 5:23 PM EST reply actions
Wow
I’m definitely intrigued in this deal. As long as Joe doesn’t have to give up picks, sounds good to me. A lot of things up in the air though with a potential lockout next season and the team sale still going on.
I wonder where Chauncey will end up if he doesn’t want to report to NJ.
Another report, published 4 minutes ago by Broussard and Stein.
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=6005596
“The primary elements of the scenario currently on the table, sources said, call for New Jersey to acquire Anthony, Billups and Hamilton; Denver to land Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow and at least two first-round picks; and Detroit to acquire Troy Murphy and Johan Petro. Other players with smaller contracts would have to be included to make the salary-cap math work.”
“One key to the advancing nature of negotiations, sources said, is the Nets’ and Nuggets’ willingness to complete a trade without asking Detroit to surrender a first-round pick….Yet sources said one of the remaining potential snags is New Jersey’s insistence that the Pistons absorb the contract of Petro. The Pistons do not want to take back Petro, even though shedding Hamilton’s contract in exchange for Murphy and the Nets’ center would represent an overall savings of roughly $17 million. Sources say Detroit’s stance on Petro has prompted New Jersey to begin looking for a fourth team that might be willing to take on the 24-year-old big man.”
thanks for the FanShot, too
To keep comments in one location and centralized for Google searchers, I closed comments over there, but definitely appreciate you putting that up while I was working on this
“One source close to the talks said Sunday afternoon that the deal could be clinched if the Nets can find a fourth team willing to absorb Petro’s salary. Detroit has been restricted in its attempts to make roster moves in recent months because of the team’s pending sale, but sources told ESPN.com on Friday that the Pistons would be very interested if a trade scenario developed where they only had to surrender Hamilton and take back Murphy. The Nets and Nuggets, meanwhile, have not stopped looking for other teams beyond Detroit that would be interested in joining the trade, since Denver does not have a strong need for Harris with young guard Ty Lawson on the roster.”
If Detroit has Leverage?
I have to guess that we’re planning on moving some asset beyond Rip to get this deal done. Maybe another guard?
I don’t see a reason not to take Petro. Is he obviously bad? I don’t mind a large body on cheap for a couple seasons. Maybe we’re just screwing with Jersey on this point though.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
Cheap is relative here
as a player yes he’s cheap, but not that appealing when trying to sell the team. From a fan’s standpoint including him isn’t bad at all, but not from an outgoing owner’s standpoint.
by Not a Gunslinger on Jan 9, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not a penny pinching millionaire
I’m a delusional fan damnit !
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
Large Body Cheap?
..ummm, Chris Wilcox?
just Vpinion
by V. on Jan 9, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
FYI on Petro
His minute per minute stats this season are much better than Murphy’s. I can’t see what the hold up is. Yeah, the owners want to save $12 million a year, now they’ll only save $9 million. But Jesus, no draft pick, no Terrico White?
If the Pistons dawdle on this and then get undercut elsewhere….
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 4:03 AM EST up reply actions
Just proves JOE D IS TEH MAN!!!
We dont have to give up a 1st and may gain one as well. AMAZING!!!!
by BennieBladesFan on Jan 9, 2011 5:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Dear BBF,
What this trade scenario actually proves is that the constraints imposed by the sale of the team are helping to discipline JOD so that he doesn’t attempt to ask for too much, or bid against himself.
Sincerely,
A red panda
Do not celebrate until this goes down
We’re setting ourselves up for heartbreak.
Jonas, jag älskar dig! Du är vacker.
At least we're well practiced at depression and heartache this season...
First Jonas and the Achilles, then Terrico and the Foot, then countless blown leads and close losses to good teams…I’m actually having a harder time getting excited for this than I normally would…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
you, sir, always have impecable timing
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 10, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
He's not all that workable
And neither can he be bought out.
Doesn't matter
Just eat the money and put him in the D-League if he’s terrible. Give away Wilcox, if saving $9 million per year isn’t sufficiently close to $12 million per year. It’s not like a Wilcox for Petro swap would prevent this team from going to the playoffs.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 4:05 AM EST up reply actions
Kriz I am swayed by your arguement
and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 4:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm so scared
that the Nets will realize Rip’s contract is awful and try to find another team to work with. Just hoping his and Melo’s agent has as much sway as it seems they do.
There is only one logical answer for New Jersey's confidence in Rip and it starts at the top:
In Communist Russia, Offensive system don’t run round Rip, Rip run round offensive system..
Which as we all know has been our offensive system’s problem for years.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jan 9, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
too good to be true
please let this go through… please, please, pleaaaase
Woj on Twitter:
“Nets-Pistons nearing agreement on terms of Hamilton-Murphy component – still debating Petro - but overall deal is “real close,” source says"
We don't want Petro
But his contract is much less of a lead weight than Hamilton’s.
"You’d be surprised what you can accomplish if you’re not concerned with making sense!"- PS
If Petro is the hold up, send out Maxiell.
Seriously, I can understand the pick being a hold up, but what the fuck at a $3 million a year big man being a potential deal breaker.
I did say that the whole draft pick thing was just New Jersey’s initial offer, and they’d back off. Good to see Joe hold his ground there, cause now the deal’s a lot better.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 6:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No one
has ever been righter about anything than you are right here.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 4:08 AM EST up reply actions
“The Pistons remain interested in unloading the remaining two years and $25 million on Hamilton’s contract for Murphy’s $12 million expiring deal, and Detroit president Joe Dumars and New Jersey general manager Billy King are expected to talk again Sunday night. The Pistons don’t want to take back Nets center Johan Petro, who has two years and $6.75 million left on his contract after this season. If the Nets and Pistons can’t come to a resolution, sources said the Nuggets and the Nets will work on a two-team deal between themselves.”
DO IT JOD. FOR THE LOVE OF RED PANDAS……..DO IT.
by garrettelliott on Jan 9, 2011 7:06 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
agreeeed.
I’d do it with Petro still. I have a very bad feeling about this right now… probably 30% good feeling, 60% bad feeling, 10% hungry for a GD snack.
Bad feeling warranted...
The entire state of Michigan is in some kind of horrible sports related spiral. I’d care more about this unraveling if I wasn’t terrified of the Michigan coaching search and hadn’t just watched the basketball team take a stomach punch loss to Kansas.
they put up a good fight though...
was going to ask if anybody here knew what was wrong with Jordan Dumars — he can shoot the 3-ball and Michigan was like 4-29 from downtown today
Re: Jordan D
He’s not expected to crack the rotation any time soon. Michigan is kind of like the Pistons in that we have a lot of guards (D-Mo, Hardaway, Novak, Douglass, Vogrich in the rotation) and not a lot of big men (Morgan, Smot, Horford).
Also: when was the last time Michigan shot better than 4-29 from 3 in a big game? ARGH. ANGAR SMASH.
Speaking of which
Did folks catch that Rumeal Robinson was just sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison?
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 4:09 AM EST up reply actions
This trade saves DET a lot of money in the long run.
This trade gives JOD two big expiring contracts to turn into more players and/or picks.
This trade begins to re-balance the roster, by subtracting a wing and adding 1 or 2 bigs.
This trade means more minutes for Daye, Gordon, and McGrady—and for Jerebko when he returns.
DO IT JOD!
The latest—
“Sources: Proposed deal is ’melo, billups, hamilton, carter to NJ for harris, favors, uzoh, graham and picks. Murphy and Petro to DET.”
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/24258826555359233
DO IT JOD!
just execute the damn thing
let’s go. If this goes through, I can stop drinking beer and start drinking hope again.
MFDLN!!
More—
“Detroit wants to take Petro with Murphy, but only sweetened with a first-round pick, source says.”
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
GOD DAMMIT NO!
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Because in the other comment, it said the Nets/Nuggets were willing to move on without the Pistons.
If this becomes a deal breaker I will murder Dumars.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Roger.
Don’t see what the harm in is in trying to extort even more out of the deal. If NJ slams down the phone, just call back and go, “oh, sorry guys, just kidding.”
Otherwise, I’m with you, the deal is fine, just do it.
It's a delicate balance.
Push too hard, and the Nets will cut them out. That’s my fear here. I’d rather they not piss the Nets off and have them cut us out of the deal.
I understand standing firm in negotiations. I’m glad Dumars didn’t relent and give up the pick. But don’t push your luck here.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“The teams are still negotiating whether Nets center Johan Petro, who has two years and $6.75 million left on his contract after this season, will be included, but that isn’t expected to unravel the overall deal. The Pistons are too motivated to unload the remaining two years and $25 million on Hamilton’s contract for Murphy’s $12 million expiring deal.”
I have a feeling this is going down...
With an indigestion tablet.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
One more—
“The proposed trade will send Anthony, Hamilton, Nuggets guard Anthony Carter and forward Shelden Williams to the Nets. The Nuggets will receive Nets point guard Devin Harris, rookie forward Derrick Favors, guards Anthony Morrow, Ben Uzoh, Stephen Graham and Quinton Ross. The Pistons will get Murphy and Petro.”
So wait, Billups is out of the deal?
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ohhhh!!!!
This is getting me twitterpated.
DaSeason'sRooned
by alaskanpistonsfan on Jan 9, 2011 7:37 PM EST reply actions
Is Petro really that bad?
It’d be like Wilcox for another two years?
Oh wait.
by Taiwanese Tora on Jan 9, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Again—
“Right now, the Nets would send Denver two future 1st round picks as part of package, source says.”
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/24263561735839744
Would that mean that DET could get a 1st as well?
I thought the initial deal sent 2 picks to Denver.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
I actually said WTF out loud at reading that Det could get a 1st round pick out of this, but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t happy at getting rid of Rip for Murphy’s expiring…
I’m on the edge of my seat
Wait, what?
yeah I was the same way
If Dumars somehow flipped it around on NJ and said, “No, we won’t take Petro and we won’t give you a first round pick, but you can give us one” and it actually worked, I think it’d be safe to say old Joey D is back.
by Packey on Jan 9, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
thats not the old Joey D
thats fucking Obie Wan Kenobi…
these are not the washed up players you are looking for.
DO IT JOD
by Danny D on Jan 9, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec’d for being drunk and laughing at Joey D, Obie Wan Kenobi
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 10, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, if he gets a 1st round draft pick from the Nets out of this, then I’d possibly forgive him for the rest of his dumb decisions.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m still waiting anxiously until the deal’s completed, if Petro or Billups somehow break the deal, I don’t want to be too heartbroken, it would be too much of a rollercoaster ride for my liking
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Pistons still have leverage—
One front office executive says Melo is “on board” with signing w/ NJ if Nets get Detroit part done. “He wants to play with Rip” source says
Thank God for Melo’s agent, FREE BG!!!
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This matches my excitement of some of our biggest wins, perfect end to the weekend :D
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
What I don't get
is WHY Carmelo wants to play with Rip so much. Does he honestly think Rip Hamilton can be his Scottie Pippen? Did he stop taking his medication or something? I don’t get it.
It's more likely his agent in his ear.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wasn’t really into the NBA trade rumors back when Billups was traded to Denver, but was there this much speculation leading up to that?
Not really, but this is Melo’s deal so naturally there’s more speculation
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Very true, but when I start hearing it from Woj, no matter how much I hate his writing, by the time he gets the story you can assume talks are pretty serious if not close to done
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Gonna get some air, hopefully there’s some closure on this deal by the time I come back
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
isn't the red zone farther back then
the 10 yard line?
by Taiwanese Tora on Jan 9, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Hollinger is Debbie Downer in all of this
just started chiming in and says Petro is definitely a deal breaker. Also adds:
Second minor complication is that it appears both Detroit and Denver would need to waive somebody. I’m guessing Terrico White and Melvin Ely
Hollinger also believes that Chris Wilcox is an elite player with a 20.9 efficiency rating.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'd bet Summers
more then White if anything. White has potential and Summers has a clog.
by Taiwanese Tora on Jan 9, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with Taiwanese Tora though, I know White’s injured but I’d rather keep him since we’ve seen all we’re gonna see from Summers but we can still see what we have in White
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Why would Petro be a deal breaker?!?!?! Instead of saving $25 million over the next two seasons you save $17 million. Now I understand that’s a significant difference, but you’re still saving $17 MILLION AND CLEARING UP YOU’RE GUARD LOGJAM
Wait, what?
My mistake, from reading what you wrote it seemed like Detroit was refusing to take on Petro
NOW I go out for a bit, let’s all pray JOD makes the right decisions
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
You have got to be licking my nipples with a tongue of an elephant
JUST DO IT JOD!!!!
by jcpistonfan on Jan 9, 2011 8:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
ChrisMannixSI: Exec: “Detroit will agree, they want to get out of Rip’s deal. They can’t get anything for him.”
To rehash—
“Recap of proposed deal: Melo, Rip, Billups, Williams, Carter NJ; Harris, Favors, Morrow, Uzoh, Graham, Ross, 2 1sts-DEN; Murph, Petro DET”
Packey and PS
deserve a brazilian recs for their official and unofficial coverage of the news here. You guys are making my weekend.
MFDLN!!
Post address for shipment of:
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Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
I’m expecting a fruit basket.
Alright, but I’m not sure I can fit into one of those.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You are some sort of google image search wizard.
This signature is false.
by heWizard on Jan 9, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
is that a Nene reference?
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 10, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
An updated version of the Yahoo! story—
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-netspistonstalks010711
It better be
This is JOD’s chance to redeem himself in some form.
by Taiwanese Tora on Jan 9, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Carmelo changed his twitter background today
from him in his nuggets jersey to pictures of his shoes
by Not a Gunslinger on Jan 9, 2011 8:50 PM EST reply actions
That's Big Mac Index'esque
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 10, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
Chicken or the Rip
What’s interesting is that Rip, though not publicly, must have “asked” for a trade.
Either JOD was shopping him and Rip’s agent stepped into and said, “Well, if you’re shopping my client, I’m going to put him in a situation we can control,” or Rip was itching to get out and this was the best way to accomplish that, made exponentially better by also facilitating a way to get Melo to NJ.
Either way, he doesn’t push this hard to get Rip to NJ without Rip’s consent.
This signature is false.
“This route has tolls.”
This signature is false.
by heWizard on Jan 9, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No
now we try to flip Tay and Murphy for some talent
by Not a Gunslinger on Jan 9, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm reading on Nets Daily that the Nuggets are now dragging their feet.
And want a third pick.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
According to a high level source with knowledge of the talks — one who believes the trade will go through — the Nuggets are dragging their feet at the last hour. “We do not have a deal,” the source said. “An hour ago, I thought it was done.” But that doesn’t mean the deal still won’t go through. Every other indication says yes.
guys
as much as the rest of you i want to see this trade go down, but i cant see melo signing an extension with the nets.
This proposal
is his agent’s baby. He told his agent to get him out of denver and get him enough talent to the team he goes to. Hard to imagine his agent put all this together just for Carmelo to not want it.
by Not a Gunslinger on Jan 9, 2011 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
but he wants to win too
i dont see that happening with lopez and an old hamilton, he’d have a better chance staying with in the west with the nuggets than go into a rebuilding project with the nets
Nets have 6 first round picks in the next 3 years
2 of them are reportedly being traded to Denver, 1 possibly going here.
So the nets will have Billups, Rip, Anthony, Lopez, Humphries, first round picks to keep improving or use as incentives for other trades to add even more talent. Plus like 4 second round picks. The Nets can make this deal AND keep getting better in the future, while Denver is in a holding pattern and a trade to the Knicks would set that team in stone.
by Not a Gunslinger on Jan 9, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
pistons
dont do this deal we are getting garbage -joe dummars should be fired now before he turns the piston into a door mat of the nba
ITS A TARP!
Thats what we need. A Red Panda super imposed over Admiral Akbar, holding up a blue tarp.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
This was a picture if you search "Red panda dancing"
I figured a post of this much fail didn’t deserve a red panda.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Is that a Smirnoff Ice?
If so, that cigarette must be a Misty Light 100.
by TDP on Jan 9, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
The dude is wearing a dead animal on his head. That’s too badass for Smirnoff Ice.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
He is wearing an old school TMNT shirt, but I still feel as if I would enjoy punching him about the face.
by TDP on Jan 9, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Me too. Old school TMNT shirt or not.
Street Sharks need to make a comeback. Seriously, sharks in leather jackets. If you are five, nothing is more badass than that.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Biker Mice are pretty cool, but when you’re five, leather jackets have an amazing property of making everything more xtreme.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'll see your leather jackets
and raise you eye patches, earrings and bandannas.
How you like them apples, buddy?
OH SHIT.
THAT’S LIKE THE HARDCORE 90S TRIFECTA.
ROB LIEFELD JUST CAME FIVE TIMES.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Good times.
Seriously though, Street Sharks were pretty badass. Had a couple of the action figures back in the day.
haha rob liefeld.
he would like that picture, theres no feet in it.
by dandresden on Jan 9, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
No
Looking at Troy Murphy’s stats this year….he sucks. Don’t do it detroit. i’d rather have a scoring threat like Rip off the bench than have a guy who’s averaging 3.6 ppg and 4.2 rpg this year.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 9:14 PM EST reply actions
No you wouldn't
Troy Murphy could never play a game here and it’s a win, this trade brings HOPE
by Not a Gunslinger on Jan 9, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Troy Murphy is badass Charlie Villaneuva. Troy Murphy averaged a double double for three years in a row AND shot a killing percentage from deep. He’s been injured this year.
Therefore:
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't we JUST go over this?
Basketball and maintaining a team are about much more than Rip’s unimpressive stats being better than TMurph’s stats which you just looked up. Roster composition, cap space and locker room curmudgeons are all considerations.
You have very much enraged me. Please leave.
Signed,
A Fucking Angry Red Panda
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by heWizard on Jan 9, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Somebody photoshop a knife in that red panda’s hand.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
I made you green!
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:25 AM EST up reply actions
Who are these idiots and why are they allowed to use keyboards?
“DEEEEEEEEEEEEER RIP HAMILTON IS BETTER THAN TROY MURPHY DON’T DO THIS BAD TRADE!”
Fuck these guys, they don’t deserve red pandas. Just a bunch of bandwagon ass cats who don’t understand the concept of REBUILDING and assume that every trade has to be an immediate gain. Go back to bandwagoning the Red Wings or something.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 9:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
By misspelling “derp”, this post becomes somewhat more amusing.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
No, I meant "der."
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, I thought you meant derp. I read it as “DEEEER!” as in the thing with antlers.
Therefore, I will say “DERP” towards myself.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Same here.
lol…which actually makes it even funnier than DERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR or DERRRRRRRRRRP.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Did he say "deer" or "beer"?
Homer once, of course, vowed to give up deer.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:26 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, I’m totally here on the Johan Petro bangwagon.
by TDP on Jan 9, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Seems that the Pistons are no longer the problem
and Langlois has started his spinning. I have a bad feeling about this
Keith_Langlois Keith Langlois
Remember Matt Geiger? The more players involved in a trade, the greater the chance that 1 little thing causes it all to unravel.
Keith_Langlois Keith Langlois
Also know this: Longer it sits, the more GMs will be trying to replace whatever role Pistons play in facilitating deal, hoping to sway Nets.
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The joke is on him.
No one could replace what Rip brings to the Nets.
by TDP on Jan 9, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Langlois, this is anti-kool-aid.
The WORST kind of kool-aid!
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
I was hoping this trade was through by the time I got back
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Langlois is the weirdest combination
Of Kool-Aid mixer and Shit-Stirrer. Chaat Taap!
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No....again
I know that it’s not just about talent. Troy Murphy won’t do anything and then we’ll probably let him and Tayshaun go. We’ll have some cap space to work with but i don’t see many free agents that are worth it in 2011, and the ones that have value (like Tony Parker, or Tim Duncan) aren’t coming here.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 9:31 PM EST reply actions
If we keep Rip though, we’re tied up with a rapidly declining player for two more years and that also constitutes a log jam at the SG/SF spot. With this trade, we can quit playing small ball, move Gordon to the starting lineup, get cap space, and have a younger team that will be capable of not playing 2 mph basketball.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Still though, it would free up more time for Daye. I did forget he was staring now though.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, I'm just wondering who will get their minutes cut
When Jonas comes back. Hopefully its Big Ben instead of Monroe. Or CV (who needs to go back to the bench IMO)
Again, it’s about the logjam… BG doesn’t get nearly enough time and you can tell that until he feels he’s going to get it, his offensive production isn’t going to be nearly what it can be. Someone needs to go for them to establish a stable rotation in the backcourt and get some time for Daye, and the best person to go would be Hamilton.
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why you package Rip with tayshaun, or Stuckey so you can get something of value back, and you clear up more of the logjam so you can start T-Mac.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
The more I read your posts, the more I feel you’re trolling.
Get the fuck out of here.
Now.
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
you want to make me?
or you could just get the fuck out.
now.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Unless Uncommon Sense is Jonas Jerebko and Cheers is Ramon Sessions.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Dear Sir or Madam,
I will not cheers you to Lil Wayne. And while you have an excellent point about the possibility of pairing Rip with Tayshaun or Stuckey with Rip to garner greater value in return, who exactly would we acquire?
If we’re looking for bigs, the amount of salary of Rip and Tay combined would necessitate a big on a very large contract or multiple bigs/players. Additionally, sending Tay with Rip reduces the chances of us being able to have significant amounts of expiring salary as we’d likely be taking back a variety of players on varying contracts.
Lastly, you tried to substantiate your opinion of this trade by stating that Troy Murphy has been terrible THIS year. 1) He’s been injured, and 2) Avery Johnson doesn’t like him. It wasn’t until people disregarded your opinion that you broke out a slighlty more intelligent reasoning. Maybe if we keep pushing you, you’ll increase your intelligence high enough to recognize that this is actually a great deal for the Pistons.
Why? Because we’d be shedding Rip’s contract while leaving both Stuckey and Tay available to package together. Oh and a package of Tay + Stuck is FAR more appealing than Rip + either one of those players.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jan 9, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
So the alternative is just to hang onto Rip's contract.
Which does… less.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Al_Iannazzone Al Iannazzone
by PistonPowered
Nets and Pistons are all in, but Nuggets continue to do the hokey pokey. Put the right foot in, take their right foot out.
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This is the reporter from NJ
Al_Iannazzone Al Iannazzone
by PistonPowered
Nets and Pistons are all in, but Nuggets continue to do the hokey pokey. Put the right foot in, take their right foot out.
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Langlois' Comments
He’s mixing up a special batch of blame-the-rest-of-the-league Kool-Aid for when JoD decides to lock us out of this one.
Are you trying to give everyone on here a heart attack?
Positive thoughts!
Though I fear
Once Rip is gone, we will begin to understand what a waste of money BG was. Hopefully Joe D is looking for good deals to package Tay with him (while Tay is playing awesome) and maybe the outlook won’t look so bleak for the next couple years.
jesus christ lets get this shit done already.
shit or get off the pot denver. i’ve got some serious melo traded talk fatigue.
This is getting worse than.....
THE DECISION
DaSeason'sRooned
by alaskanpistonsfan on Jan 9, 2011 9:39 PM EST reply actions
not even close
The decision was one of the worst moments in sports history.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
I liked to call it “The Derision.” Just between friends, of course.
by TDP on Jan 9, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't on the edge of my seat at that time....
So this is IMNSHO….and I won’t waffle…
DaSeason'sRooned
by alaskanpistonsfan on Jan 9, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
the decision was more fun
i got to laugh at the cavs fans and get wasted. i guess i could get wasted still.
They should have no hard feelings. We took AI. Fuckers.
by TDP on Jan 9, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
and gave them Billups
and Afflalo for a second.
They should do this trade just to make it even.
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We should get one of their first-round picks, too.
by TDP on Jan 9, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Nets told they had deal w/ Denver Saturday night, just needed to firm up with DET. NJ and DET have done that, and now DEN waffling again.
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Fuck Denver in their stupid, ugly faces.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Nets and Pistons are working out Petro and a draft pick to go with Murphy, but on hold as Denver “remains vague” with what else it may want.
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WTF this is what you get with an inexperienced front office…
“Wait, they agreed to that trade too quickly, ASK FOR MORE1
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Denver is on bullshit. Fuck them and their very high altitudes.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Denver
is gonna fuck around and end up having Melo walk at the end of the season with nothing to show for it. Genius.
denvers gm is just the patsy or Hudsucker Proxy if you will
brought in to get fired when he couldnt re-sign melo.
He’s probably waffling because he feels he can get more, but what more could you ask for? Lopez is untouchable, other than that you’re getting the two best pieces on the team in Harris and Favours. The GMs in the NBA make me too angry to put into words.
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe another first round pick?
Possibly from Detroit?
If Melo wants this trade to happen and he gets dicked around, he’ll walk without compensation.
Which makes me think Melo might be the hold up.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:34 AM EST up reply actions
Come on Denver
Wish Denver would pull the trigger…………………………Freeing up so cap space would be nice, Petro could be a solid player in the future who knows
It would be funny if...
The Nuggets scheduled a prime time press conference to announce they were trading Gary Forbes.
Also, Gary Forbes’ middle name is “Orlando”. How do you not drop the “Forbes” and go by Gary Orlando?
knew it wasn't a good sign when i saw melo playing
New Jersey and Detroit expected Denver to sit its players tonight vs. Hornets on cusp of deal, and Denver played them. That halted things.
- Woj
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Denver isn’t making issue of draft pick compensation but perhaps different mix of players back from Nets, sources say. Deal will sit tonite.
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Masai Ujiri can go do unspeakable things with a bear.
If this deal drops, I think I may smash a hole in my wall.
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Kriz's updates make me sad.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:34 AM EST up reply actions
Incidentally
Can anyone find a line on Melo for MVP? Hate the idea in principle. Love the idea of getting 18 to 1 on it.
NJ
is desperate for Melo, but if they waffle even NJ has their limits.
(I would think)
by Taiwanese Tora on Jan 9, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Is it confirmed
Which two picks Denver would be getting?
yep
Woj just said deal will sit tonight. Time to wait for a beautiful morning, Pistons fans.
MFDLN!!
Oh well.
Back to my Halo Reach Pirate ship.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
The Billups deal when down at the buttcrack of dawn, right?
by TDP on Jan 9, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
ohh I will stay up all night, MFMP
My law school just announced a snow day for tomorrow (yes, a snow day with an anticipated 3-5 inches of snow over night). I’m currently waxing my sled, tilting my head to the side and staring at Twitter for upates
by Packey on Jan 9, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd for sled waxing...
I gave my sled a good waxing last night…IF YA KNOW WHAT I MEAN!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
NetsDaily: The Nets are optimistic. Too far down the road to go back…and Leon Rose would not be pleased and might take Denver hostage forever.
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I think I may be obssesed right now.
I need someone to take me away from this computer.
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THIS JUST IN
Kriz’s computer now included in deal. Should be at Denver practice facilities Tuesday, sources say.
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Finally, a Kriz update makes me happy!
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:35 AM EST up reply actions
this just has to happen
we make bank on this if we get a pick for petro. detroit and jersey are ready to go wtf is denver’s problem? let’s do this! favors is going to be a beast someday just take the trade already.
I don’t see how they’re going to get any more for Melo before the trade deadline. They’re just being wet panda blankets.
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I’m surprised they got this much, they’re waffling probably because they feel like Nets agreed to the deal to quickly and Denver must feel they can get more. FFS Detroit ’n Denver are winning this trade hands down, WTF more do you want!!!
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously- Melo is going to walk for nothing in a couple months
And they are getting the 3rd overall pick, 2 future 1sts and a borderline all-star in Harris. I don’t even understand how Denver can drag their feet on this one?
Look, they’d also have to give up Chauncey Billups to make it happen. Whom cost them Allen Iverson. ALLEN IVERSON!
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Oddly enough
I keep forgetting they are giving anything up other than Melo
by aussiepiston on Jan 9, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
they have no intention of picking up billup’s option anyway. they’d have lawson and favors for the future. and a boat load of first round picks. they just have to pull the trigger and start over already.
also
they’d have harris and nene to deal at the deadline to acquire even more picks/prospects.
denver is in position to rebuild the right way if they don’t mess it up.
correction to you assumption of dealing Harris at the deadline
A player acquired via trade has to wait 60 days before they are eligible to be traded again. The only exception to this rule is if you trade the player againg within 24 hours (Rasheed Wallace to Detroit via Atlanta is a good example of this).
The only other way to disperse of a player’s contract is to buy out/waive. So since the trade deadline is sometime around Mid-February, there are not enough days between now and the deadline to be able to deal Harris again during the regular season.
This is why Orlando made their trade so quickly…it leaves them capable of trading any of those players before the deadline since there will have been 60 days since the trade went through.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Wow
Never thought of that part of the Orlando deal, and I can classify myself as an NBA nut for sure.
Booruns, you’re good in my book.
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Would getting a tattoo of a red panda suffice?
Because I’m actually contemplating it…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Tell the truth, I am totally contemplating getting a tattoo of Rasheed Wallace dribbling the Earth on his index finger.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
I mean spinning the Earth on his index finger, dammit.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Damn it! Someone already has it!
No in actuality, I’d probably try to find someone really good at replicating pictures and do a replication of the winking Red Panda face or maybe a standing red Panda in a Pistons jersey.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Okay so a little update...
it appears that they can only be traded if its an independent 1 for 1 trade…at least according to some on the NJ Nets blog…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I believe this is true also
/do you trust me’d?
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 10, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions
You know, I"m not sure this matters
Scenario 1: Denver lets Anthony walk and buys out Billups. Saves maybe $30 million. Uses the money to take their pick of whoever is out there.
Scenario 2: Same two players are gone in a trade and the Nuggets get the players offered for them.
Maybe the Nuggets think a collection of free agents is about as good as Favors, Harris, and a couple of mid-round firsts.
I think, perhaps, in these days of salary cap and free agency, trades just aren’t as important. Who cares if you trade your star or he walks—either way, cap space can be seen a your key to recovering.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:40 AM EST up reply actions
23 questions about this deal
And if Denver is pulling this trigger, is it really going to be while they are hosting the Hornets?
So if this goes down, do we really cut white to make room for petro?
and
more questions here
I’m still skeptical, but I imagine I’ll sleep like a kid on Christmas eve who is almost positive he was good last year.
Why wouldn't we jut include White
As leverage for the pick we are trying to score? I mean surely that is better than waiving him?
by aussiepiston on Jan 9, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not clear that White is not worth keeping
Obviously Dumars really liked something about him. And if I recall Summer League results, all signs were that he exceeded expectations.
If he played little and looked better than expected, wouldn’t waiving him just make Dumars admit that he had no idea what he was doing?
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:43 AM EST up reply actions
"Denver and New Jersey are still talking tonight, sources say."
From ADRIAN.
I’m starting to get really worried we’ll somehow be left out of this deal. I would not be pleased…at all.
This would make me angry beyond anything every time I see Rip in a Pistons jersey. This deal should’ve been done by now, fuck Denver.
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
lets just hope that the pistons part of the deal is done
and they are waiting on the desperate assholes in NJ to beat those waffling jerks in DEN into submission.
If I'm the Nets I put my foot down. This is it, take it or leave it, bitch.
You want more? Nyet
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Agreed, the Nets are basically gutting their team and Denver wants more? The only beyond good player is Lopez, and he’s untouchable to them. I think it might be over picks, but really, Denver’s coming out of this trade really well for a high-volume shooter who occasionally rebounds.
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
For Fuck's Sake
Nevertheless, Nets and Pistons were operating under belief there was an agreement. Denver wants NJ to take more money back now, source says – Adrian Wojnarowski
TOO FRUSTRATING
Wait, what?
This seems hopeful to me. It sounds like the Pistons’ part of the deal is set, and now it’s just on NJ and Denver to sort their stuff out. So long as Denver doesn’t go demanding Troy Murphy I’m hoping we’re safe. God do I want that expiring contract.
It's not a done deal
The Nets wouldn’t trade Murphy for Rip unless it was a needed step in getting Anthony.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:44 AM EST up reply actions
Read that they are trying to force a Vujabitch (expiring) for Harrington trade.
It would have to be a separate trade.
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from Woj:
The Nets are calling teams trying to help Detroit find a landing place for Johan Petro, front office executives say.
MFDLN!!
On your screen maybe
and that’s all that matters…
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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Nets are calling teams trying to help Detroit find a landing place for Johan Petro, front office executives say.
Seriously, someone take this computer away for tonight.
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seeing as how there’s only 30 teams, this WOULD be quite a feat.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
PLEASE tell me that is supposed to be a Simpsons reference
It would make me so happy if it was.
"You’d be surprised what you can accomplish if you’re not concerned with making sense!"- PS
by bugman222 on Jan 9, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It most certainly was
A rec for you, bugman. And for you, dan, a lovely parting gift.
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by heWizard on Jan 9, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey! There's a lemon behind that lemon shaped rock!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jan 9, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You will tell your children
someday all about the time you spent half the night awake cutting and pasting tweets concerning Johan Petro.
They will be proud.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 6:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Keith Langlois is just passing this along...
Just passing it along: Latest report out of Bergen Record has DaJuan Summers as other piece going to NJ w/Rip for Murphy, Petro.
For DaJuan Summers?
I expect at least three first rounders in return. Nay, demand.
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by Shinons on Jan 9, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
hell, we should throw in Wilcox and re-sign Herrmann and Deman that WE get Melo.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
They have 6 1st rounders over the next 2 years…i’m sure we’ll be getting one of them.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Farewell Summers
and may you have good fortunes backing up Carmelo AND Outlaw. Your day will come…just keep on keepin on.
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
by Roll The Dyess on Jan 10, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
Another version of the story from Chris Mannix—
The Nets are deep in discussions with the Nuggets and Pistons for a deal that would send Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton and Anthony Carter to New Jersey; Devin Harris, Derrick Favors, Anthony Morrow, Ben Uzoh and Stephen Graham to Denver; and Troy Murphy and Johan Petro to Detroit.
Both Denver and Detroit would receive first-round draft picks from New Jersey, sources said.
Holding up the deal, sources say, is Detroit’s desire to pry more draft picks from New Jersey for taking on the salaries of Murphy and Petro. Murphy is in the final year of his contract, worth about $12 million, and according to a source, he’ll seek a buyout if traded. Nets center Petro still has two years and approximately $6.8 million left on his deal.
The issue is unlikely to prevent this deal from happening, a source said.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/01/09/carmelo.anthony.deal/index.html
If this is the latest news, then DET will give up Hamilton and receive 1+ draft picks, Petro, and Murphy’s expiring deal. I don’t know how buying out Murphy would affect DET’s cap situation.
why bother buying him out? just play him for 2 games and he will get injured for the rest of the year.
See...thats the first fault of Arnie Kander
Guys who we wish would just stay injured keep coming back and quicker than expected.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Getting a pick, any pick
its just fucking icing on the cake
or getting a Christmas bonus of a couple thousands when you expected nothing at all
Or discovering that Jonas just baked cupcakes, just for you
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by Kriz on Jan 9, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
rec’d for all three highly desirable situations
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Or discovering that Jonas just baked cupcakes, just for you
It’s also all he’s wearing.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
dumars has proven to be insane
but this insane? i can’t buy it.
The only thing I can figure is that Leon is putting the screws to the Nets really hard.
And Dumars is trying to capitalize. Either way, the further he pushes, the more nervous I get.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly I think they agreed to send the pick so the Pistons take Petro
and now they’re trying to get to keep the pick by finding a taker for Petro
Dumars has been questionable this past few years but he has to know this deal is as good as it gets for Rip.
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i would expect JOD to totally shine in this situation
this is part of his master plan right? feign incompetence for a few years and then rope a dope the league w a series of genius moves. thats the plan right?
by dandresden on Jan 9, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think I'd rather have Petro and the pick rather than neither
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 7:12 AM EST up reply actions
This makes me very nervous
I’d like to trust that Joe is just holding on for a few inconsequential hours just in case he can emerge with an extra treat and he’d never endanger this trade.
But….
He’s the one who resigned Rip and kept saying that he needed to get another All Star in return for him.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 7:01 AM EST up reply actions
The question becomes
is this the Old Testament JOD? The vindictive, punitive one that fleeced other GMs around the league? Or is this the squishy, touchy-feely New Testament JOD, all lets’ “turn the other cheek” and give out big paychecks to mediocre players? Me? I like the Old Testament, thank you very much.
just EPINION
by real Rob G on Jan 9, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
lol...only in Canada!
And dinosaurs still roam the earth today. I watched an episode of River Monsters featuring the Arapina, a true River Monster found in the Amazon River Basin.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I always imagine Utah is filled with families just like the one in the “All About Mormons” South Park episode and that it’s the happiest place on Earth.
by garrettelliott on Jan 9, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
and everywhere but Toronto and Montreal (which try too hard to be American and European cities respectively) you’d be absolutely right
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t lock my doors, just like in that Michael Moore documentary!
by garrettelliott on Jan 9, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
You could learn a lot about bootlegging from the wealthy industrialists in my peer group.
by -PS- on Jan 9, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
thats why you just learn to brew your own beer.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
You know
I still get all that confused. The dinos were put here to test our faith! They never existed! No, wait, dinos are still alive, somewhere in Africa!
All I know is that the Raptors suck.
just EPINION
When the fuck is he going to send his kickass son to get this roster fixed?
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Denver game is over in 5 minutes
What are the odds that Melo goes upstairs, signs his extension, and has a plane waiting for him and the others?
BREAKING NEWS.
My wife is making me hot dogs for lunch.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
by Laughton on Jan 9, 2011 11:26 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
by Laughton on Jan 9, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
“Son, don’t go up that mountain! You’ll die up there like I did!”
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Awful Episode
It’s around this time that everything became a wacky shenanigan. Culminated in the dreadful movie. Haven’t seen a new episode in five years.
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burmahunkalove.livejournal.com (occasional signs of life)
by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 7:20 AM EST up reply actions
YES YES YES
Chris Broussard twitter
In the red zone
1 minute ago
less than 5 seconds ago via Echofon .League exec just said Den-Det-NJ deal is “at the 10-yard line”.
Can't tell if serious...
I’ve been monitoring the situation for quite a while now, I think his page is brokeded or something, it’s said he tweeted that 10 seconds ago for hours now
Wait, what?
by Uncommon Sense on Jan 9, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Lets hope JoD has as good of a red zone efficiency as the Lions had this season...
and for those of you thinking I’m being sarcastic…the Lions were actually in the top 5 or 10 in red zone scoring…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Right you are
although people may have trouble coming to grips with it, the Lions look to be a playoff contender next season.
Michigan Football team is pretty bad, the Lions are pretty good… what kind of Twilight Zone shit is this, anyways?
Hopefully one that involves Rip Hamilton playing for the Nets as a playoff contender.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I don't know if anyone else caught this
Carmelo’s line tonight:
33:57 mins
3-11 shooting, 0-1 from 3, 2-4 from the line for 8 points
5 bebounds, 4 assists, 1 blocked shot
Chauncey’s line tonight
38:03 mins
2-12 shooting, 0-6 from 3, 9-9 from the line for 13 points
3 bebounds 3 assists
They know they’re gone, why did they even play? Basically to admit that a deal wasn’t finalized?
Wait, what?
THIS JUST IN:
I finished up my Halo: Reach Pirate Ship map.
It’s pretty dang cool if you ask me.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 11:40 PM EST reply actions
This just in, Trout is a geek.
But I’m okay with it…because Halo: Reach Pirate Ship game variants are the bomb.com.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Pssh, I already know I'm a geek.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Is Reach worth purchasing?
I am a little worn out by Halo, I skipped ODST. Loved the first, tolerated the second and approved of the third.
Also, my brother and I used to play the silent cartographer level for hours just to get the warthog to the bottom of the level. Awesome times.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
Reach is definitely entertaining...if you liked the multi-player I think they've continued to do things to improve it and add new layers of complexity
The campaign is fun and compelling but I was a little let down with the final level. Playing the campaign co-op will leave one guy even more underwhelmed. I actually didn’t realize I was at the end until the credits started rolling.
So…I’d say pick it up at some point…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Halo: Reach is the closest Halo: Combat Evolved.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 9, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
It is settled then.
I shall get Reach. On sale at least.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
Also, NO FLOOD.
That’s the greatest thing ever.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 10, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
that sounds like
something my brother and I would do. We used to play Super Cup Soccer on SNES with a rule – we’d compete for the first half, then tie the second in order to have a shootout. For hours.
just EPINION
THIS ALSO JUST IN
Rich Rod has been Fired!
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jan 9, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions
A TRADE HAS HAPPENED!
FIFA 10 for Armored Core: For Answer.
Not bad, big robots smacking the crap out of each other.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
……………………………….. Who wants to fund a trip to L.A. for me? I like Tom Waits and attractive women, this is destined to work.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 9, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
THIS JUST IN
DeAndre Jordan is averaging 10 and 15 this month and he’s shooting like 68% from the field. * sighs wistfully *
"Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans."
-ralphgoblue/thunder_god08
OMG OMG IT HAPPENED!!!11!!
I played all the way through “Come on, come over” on the bass.
just EPINION
no way
“Teen Town” is uberhard, isn’t it?
“Come on” is just two basic patterns. Which takes all the magic out of it.
Ok, not really, it still kicks ass.
just EPINION
“Teen Town” is challenging, but there’s rests between each line. “Come On” has that part at the end where it’s continuous sixteenth notes.
we will not
speak of fretless – let me get the fretted down first! (my fretless is almost never taken off the wall).
just EPINION
You could learn a lot about class from the wealthy industrialists in your peer group.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 10, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Carmelo is on the move!
… from the Meijer I purchased it at to my stomach.
"Detroit Bad Boys is full of HOMOS ,JACKASSES and NON-sports fans."
-ralphgoblue/thunder_god08
Anthony agrees to terms!
Comedian Anthony Anderson has just signed on to portray Pistons President Joe Dumars in the upcoming film “Fucking Up a Good Thing: The Joe D Story.” More details on the way soon.
by motown313 on Jan 10, 2011 12:01 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
With Will Smith playing the part of Robert Horry during the 2005 NBA Finals.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Jan 10, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
This is clever!
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 7:21 AM EST up reply actions
Excellent news with the updates
Man, I’m happy to see this being so close to completing. Fingers are crossed.
Follow Up Trade:
Tayshaun, Maxiell, + 2011 2nd rounder for Zach Randolph.
DO IT JOD!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Oh my God, if that happens, I’m gonna lose my shit. BEST TRADE EVER.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 10, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
More info from Woj—
The Nets and Pistons have all but completed a component of the trade that exchanges Murphy for Hamilton, sources said. The teams have agreed to include Petro, who has two years and $6.75 million left on his contract after this season, but were still working out whether Detroit would receive a draft pick. The Pistons are motivated to unload the remaining two years and $25 million on Hamilton’s contract for Murphy’s $12 million expiring deal.
The Nets were assisting the Pistons in finding another team to move Petro onto, because Detroit – in the midst of an ownership sale – needs maximum financial savings for its payroll. New Jersey and Detroit were surprised on Sunday night when Denver allowed the players included in the proposed trade to play in a game against the New Orleans Hornets. The Nets believed they had fulfilled Denver’s requirements only to find the Nuggets wanted to rearrange parts in the 13-player deal.
Yahoo! report
Denver and New Jersey are still talking tonight, sources say.
Nevertheless, Nets and Pistons were operating under belief there was an agreement. Denver wants NJ to take more money back now, source says
The Nets are calling teams trying to help Detroit find a landing place for Johan Petro, front office executives say.
Y! Sources: Denver and New Jersey pushing through increasing arcimony to complete ’Melo trade to Nets
http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/24333741287546880
According to Aldridge no...but I think its fair speculation to think that if Melo/Rip's agent is pushing hard on this deal that Melo would be amenable to signing an extension...
then again, who knows, maybe his agent thinks he can convince Prokhorov that Melo just needs some time to see himself as a Net…
Then when Melo leaves and signs with the Knicks, Melo’s agent winds up finding out what a Soviet torture facility looks like from the inside.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jan 10, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
yeah its weird that no one is really talking about melo though he is the supposed center piece of this trade.
finally the trade comes along and all the sudden no one talks about him.
Watching NBATV right now...they're talkin to Aldridge
According to him, they still haven’t heard a verbal commitment from Carmelo.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
RT @nuggetsnews Melo just said “I don’t see it happening” in reference to the trade, but he wouldn’t talk about timetable
http://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/status/24327971170951168
I just heard the full interview...
nuggetsnews presents it in a very narrow scope. In the context of the entire interview, the question that he responded with “I don’t see it happening” was “Do you think that a trade will happen tonight”. He waffled a bit and then said, “I don’t see it happening”. When pressed further, he made mention of (I think the GM) someone not even being here tonight so he didn’t see how it could happen.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jan 10, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
So if we did this deal
We’d have at minimum 26.9M expiring at the end of this season. If we opted not to extend a qualifying offer to Stuck, Jerebko, and Summers then that number would jump to $32.9M. If thats not enough to sign Marc Gasol, then I don’t know what is.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I'm not saying it's wise, I'm just giving the facts.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jan 10, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
damn 500 comments based solely on roomers
you guys got the space madness or something
I LIKE IT
Fire CJ and trade Schwartz lol
by spicymchaggis on Dec 12, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply Star Unrec? 1
No sir, I don't like it.
Trade Melo now.
by MFCasey on Jan 10, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, I watched that show for the first time in years yesterday.
Man, there’s a reason I’m so fucked up.
by Biz Markie Moon on Jan 10, 2011 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
Asked if this was his last Nuggets game, Melo said. "Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all.''
From Marc Stein’s twitter.
Interesting…
Even LeBron claims he'd love to retire a Cavalier...
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Maybe we could include two 2nd rounders to get a 1st rounder back with Petro.
I feel like Bear Sterns right before they collapsed.
/is this leverage real life’d
I will forever abhor DMC not being a Piston.
I'm against 3 team 17 player deals
If only because they encourage 4 team 23 player deal speculation on sports blogs.
In 24 hours Ben Hansborough and Yannick Noah are going to be part of the deal.
Eets MAD-NESS!
I, Like, Totally Posted this on the Wrong Thread...
Not sure how I put it on the Tay-Randolph link, but here it is in all it’s glory in its rightful place…
Am I reading correctly that the Pistons could
a) dump Rip
b) land Murphy and Petro
c) not lose the lottery pick or Terrico White
?
If that’s the case, jesusfuckingchristjoedoitidon’tgiveafuckabouthavingtotakeonacoupleof
threemilliondollaryearsfrompetrowhoisatleastasevenfooterandnotmuchofanivestment.
I hated the idea of giving up a lottery pick for the privilege of getting rid of Rip. But this is an incredible deal. If this thing collapses because the Pistons don’t want two years of Petro on a Wilcoxian contract, I will personally fly to Detroit (a three thousand dollar flight) and take away Joe’s donuts.
(FYI—Petro actually has better per minute stats that Murphy this year. What’s the problem here?)
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2011 4:00 AM EST reply actions
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