Top NBA Free Agents: Detroit Pistons
by Matt Watson on Nov 30, 2011 5:52 PM EST
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PrintIf you haven't already, I suggest you check out Tom Ziller's list of the Top 79 NBA free agents available. Before we completely set our sights on who we want the Pistons to target, I figured it might make sense to think about who we want the Pistons to keep. Here's TZ's take, starting with Rodney Stuckey, who comes in at No. 7:
7. RODNEY STUCKEY
Guard, 25 years old, 6'5
Restricted free agent; Detroit can match any signed offer sheet
2011 stats: 15.5 points and 5.2 assists in 31 minutes per game; 18.4 PERWhile everyone was focused on the drama in Detroit last season, Stuckey quietly began to realize his promise. he found his way on offense, becoming for the first time in his career a scorer with average efficiency. He's also become a nice playmaker (27 percent assist rate) who limits mistakes (13 percent turnover rate).
His offensive game is predicated on getting to the rim. This is partly by design -- Stuckey's of the Tough S.O.B. point guard strain making its way through the league -- but always necessary due to the guard's shaky jumper: he shoots a career 26.6 percent from long-range.
Stuckey should be a good defender, but needs some help from a coach and a team with a plan. Lawrence Frank, Detroit's new coach, could be just the salve. It's too bad the Pistons drafted Brandon Knight, meaning that Stuckey's going to have to let the market and not a desperate Joe Dumars determine his value.
The selection of Knight was met with mixed reactions (I'm being kind) among DBB's faithful, but regardless of how you feel about him, Ziller makes an excellent point: his presence should prevent Joe Dumars from going nuts and giving Stuckey a Mike Conley-esque (five years, $40 million) contract. Right? Given Dumars' recent history, I'm not sure he sees a connection, but hopefully the new voices in the room will make him think twice. Moving on ...
25. TAYSHAUN PRINCE
Small forward, 31 years old, 6'9
Unrestricted free agent
2011 stats: 14.1 points and 4.2 rebounds in 33 minutes per game; 15.1 PERPrince is a jump-shooting wing best-served taking 10 or fewer shots per game, one whose defense was always highly rated but who doesn't seem to have played a lick of it since the Pistons fell from grace. He's a hard player to judge given the rubble from which he emerges; as such, if he finds the motivation to start anew, he could be a bargain. But it's a strong if. There's a reason it seemed so few teams tried hard to grab him for the stretch run last season.
You know how there are some players you need to watch 50 times a year to understand how valuable they really are? Players that the national media sleeps on because they don't see all the little things they do game in and game out? Prince is like the opposite of that. He's built a reputation as a defensive stopper, but he's been anything but in his last several playoff series -- and that was a few years ago. Perhaps I'm taking him for granted, but I'm ready to move on.
37. Chris Wilcox: Wilcox, 29, registered the same PER as rookie Greg Monroe (18) last season, behind only Rodney Stuckey (18.4) on the Pistons roster. Wilcox received 17.5 per game as a reward.
38. Jonas Jerebko: Jerebko is the first NBA player from Sweden that totally looks Norwegian.
Jerebko seems incredibly low, but see above: he's one of those guys you had to watch 50 times a year to truly appreciate -- and that was before he sat out an entire year with an Achilles injury. So really, no problems here.
60. DaJuan Summers: Summers played more minutes in each of his three seasons at Georgetown than he has over his entire two-year career with the Pistons.
Last but not least:
74. Tracy McGrady: Last season, McGrady had his most efficient shooting season since 2007. Last season, McGrady was still far less efficient than the average NBA player (50 percent TS%).
What's your take? Are you willing to cut ties with Stuckey and Prince, or are they still a good fit for Detroit?
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countdown to a cascade of "resigning Stuckey would be a massive mistake" in 3, 2...
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
Keep Stuckey at the right price.
Unless Tayshuan is taking a monster paycut, I’d be happy letting Daye and Jerebko have a crack at starting. It’s time to get younger and though I think Prince has always been underated, he just seems to have lost some of the hustle and fire that made him so effective.
As for Stuckey, I still really like the prospect of dumping Rip and playing Stuckey at Shooting Guard with Brandon Knight at the 1. Then Ben Gordon can come in for big minutes and firepower off the bench and we roll with that 3 guard rotation. Knight lets Stucky move to his natural position and create a rather large backcourt who could defend the heck out of other teams.
This all hinges on Dumars signing him for a reasonable contract. The shortened off season and low pressure should help us get him for less. But if his contract starts getting up into 8 digits… let him walk.
I think Stuckey at $5 mil would actually be a quality signing
Especially if he and Knight feed off each other’s range+driving abilities. All we need to do is get rid of Rip (who should be relatively easy to move next season at worst) and we’ll have a stable backcourt
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Nov 30, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
I mostly agree.
The Brandon Knight-Rodney Stuckey backcourt combo can work. However, I do believe Knight needs to improve on his jumper though, because he’s had some bad stretches of inconsistency with his shooting in Kentucky. Otherwise, opposing teams will be packing the lane big time to close off driving lanes, and our bigs will have trouble working inside the paint from opposing guards collapsing on ’em digging for the basketball.
and there's the other thing
which is that Rodney Stuckey is very poor at guarding shooting guards. (bold-faced not in response to you, MFKruza, but because others have floated the suggestion that playing Rodney at the 2 is a good idea. It’s not, since he can’t “shoot” or “guard”.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
So the perfect backcourt mate for Stuckey is 6’8", can guard the 2, pass, shoot, and run the offense. Get the scientists working on the genetic engineering technology now.
I wrote a book about time travel. Buy it and/or die. http://www.thetimetravelguide.com
True dat MP. See also Ziller's line
“becoming for the first time in his career a scorer with average efficiency.” Wow, let’s get a guy who finally had a year in which he was “average.”
I like the idea of seeing everybody play with what looks to be a much better coach than we’ve had in a long time. it would have been a perfect situation to have seen this last year when we didn’t have to worry about resigning Stuck. I’m shaky at best with resigning Rodney but the other side of the coin is the real possibility of seeing him finally really reach his potential with another team. If we can resign him at a reasonable price then I guess I’d rather risk it that way than crying on my pillow when he plays like we know he can on another team. He has the potential to make us in Piston land sadder than watching Afflalo bloom in Denver
I smell a troll
I agree on Tay
He has lived off reputación for quite some time now.
The only guys I’m interest in keeping is Stuckey and Jerebko. The rest, good riddance.
WWGMD?
Co-sign.
Yeah, Tay just went through the motions the last few years and played a lot of subpar games on both ends of the floor. I also wouldn’t mind seeing him playing elsewhere since I don’t really want him taking minutes from our younger guys. But we may not get our wish as he might be re-signed because of Kyle Singler’s decision to remain overseas.
74 is pretty unfair to McGrady
He wasn’t much of an offensive threat, but he was still an excellent passer and a surprisingly effective defender. He’s a great option as a role player for a contender.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Nov 30, 2011 8:04 PM EST reply actions
Agreed
Although T Mac wasn’t great, he was our best point guard at times. When he wasn’t trying to score, he was a decent assist guy and he has good size at the position. Obviously age and injury are a concern, but I’d take him over Summers (at the same price) any day.
I feel like a championship team could use him effectively as a rotation combo guard.
I bet the Mavs would like to have him.
by garrettelliott on Dec 1, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe this ranking is unfair.
Before blossoming into a superstar with the Orlando Magic and before all the back spasms, leg injuries and other ailments that robbed him of much of his athletic abilities, let’s not forget that Tracy McGrady was mainly known as a defensive specialist when he first came into the league. He was the Toronto Raptors lockdown perimeter defender and key role player while Vince Carter was the star player of the team. So he’s not a complete stranger when it comes to playing defense.
Anyway, it seemed as if T-Mac showed Will Bynum how to effectively run a pick & roll plays while with the Pistons as I thought Bynum dramatically improved on his passing as this past season progressed. I know Chris Wilcox in particular had to love T-Mac because T-Mac spoon fed him so many easy basket to help boost his numbers.
Being a complete tool
Has to knock him down a few spots, doesn’t it?
by Big Z in Orlando on Dec 2, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Just read on MLive that the FO isn't planning to use the amnesty clause this year.
They want to see what we have in Frank’s new system before they cut anyone loose. I don’t like that idea. What could CV provide. He hasn’t played D in any system that he’s ever been in and he only shoots 3’s. I hope he proves me wrong but as of right now he’s just robbing minutes from the younger players.
by NewSchoolLionFan on Nov 30, 2011 8:06 PM EST reply actions
Just read on MLive that the FO isn't planning to use the amnesty clause this year.
They want to see what we have in Frank’s new system before they cut anyone loose. I don’t like that idea. What could CV provide. He hasn’t played D in any system that he’s ever been in and he only shoots 3’s. I hope he proves me wrong but as of right now he’s just robbing minutes from the younger players.
by NewSchoolLionFan on Nov 30, 2011 8:11 PM EST reply actions
Just read on MLive that the FO isn't planning to use the amnesty clause this year.
They want to see what we have in Frank’s new system before they cut anyone loose. I don’t like that idea. What could CV provide. He hasn’t played D in any system that he’s ever been in and he only shoots 3’s. I hope he proves me wrong but as of right now he’s just robbing minutes from the younger players.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
by Mike Payne on Nov 30, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Frank also said he hopes all our FAs come back.
I’m gonna have to go with the believe that they are posturing right now, because I don’t want to a have to quit this bitch so early in the season.
WWGMD?
Do you have to use the amnesty during an offseason?
Because I’m sure after 10 games of seeing CV’s chewed bubble gum ass they’ll want to axe him post haste.
All the time relaxed.
I never thought about that.
I guess if we could use it during the season then I would be alright with that. Hell maybe CV would light it up during the first few games and we could trade him for someone valuable. I guess at that point I would have to wake up from my dream though.
by NewSchoolLionFan on Nov 30, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Conversely,
he could play ten games of the worst basketball on the entire planet, get cut, sign with another team for squat, and leave the Pistons on the hook for his salary, right?
This Is The Advantage Of Having So Many Canadians On DBB
They’d never in a million years spell “accoutrements” in US spelling.
Accouterments just sounds nasty…like you know what.
OK, MP, can we make a run at Jordan or even Nene, maybe overpay to get Nene?
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Nov 30, 2011 8:37 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
no and no
Nene wants a contender, Jordan is restricted and LAC aren’t stupid.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
okay LAC are stupid
but not this stupid. Our chance at Jordan came and went when we passed on him for the brilliant talent of Walter Sharpe in the draft.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
he was a real sleeper pick for sure.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
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Typo
(Skyrim shot)
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 1, 2011 3:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMKJ9fDM2mo&ob=av3e
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
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I Looked It Up Last Night
It’s obviously an awesome game, but it’s past my time to really enjoy something like this.
Besides, when I’m online, I play a lot of online poker for medium stakes. Not sure if there’s a Skyrim Pro Tourney Circuit yet.
If I were younger and a hard core gamer, something like Battlefield 3 would get my attention. Just stunning graphics and I like the house to house combat idea.
Maybe one day…trying to right the ship on one business from three time zones away, trying to close life changing deal, working on restarting law practice, have monster commercial RE sales gig offer. Let’s see if I can close on just one of these first.
Besides…“chase the dragon” has a different meaning in my world lol.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 1, 2011 3:45 AM EST up reply actions
Close a life changing deal………………………on your autobiography?
by garrettelliott on Dec 1, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I'll Be Doing A Book Signing At The Canadian Tire
In the Central part of Canada.
BTW, for the Canadians out there…anyone ever refer to Windsor as “South Detroit?” Saw a T-shirt with that online a couple of days ago…that one was new to me.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 1, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We refer to Detroit as North Windsor.
by garrettelliott on Dec 1, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If I'm not mistaken,
it’s a Journey reference to the line “born and raised in south detroit.” But, HEY!, I’ve been wrong before.
Never Overestimate The Abilities Of The Clippees Front Office
I think it’s especially hard they can fuck it up, especially since they are considered to be a closer team this year.
Maybe I should have asked LawyerBoy for an opinion, too.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 1, 2011 3:34 AM EST up reply actions
How I see the roster.
Under contract:
PF/C Monroe
SG Hamilton
SG Gordon
PF(ugh) Villanueva
PF Maxiell
PG Bynum
C Wallace (still unclear if playing or retiring)
SG/SF Daye
G White
G Knight*
PF Macklin*
11 players
Jerebko needs to be resigned. I do also think Stuckey and Wilcox are likely to be signable and I would be happy with both. Summers is way gone, Tay should be because we need to determine what Daye really is (SG or SF) and what JJ is (SF or PF). We can’t give 30+ minutes to an expensive vet at this point.
If JJ, Stuckey, and Wilcox are all back, we only have one roster spot left (unless Macklin goes D-Leaguing)
From the FA list we need to find anywhere from 1-4 kids we’d be excited to see wearing pistons’ colors. That seems daunting. I’ll take my shot at it eventually.
*not technically under contract but coming soon. Obviously, Knight’s a lock. Macklin’s not a guarantee to make the team, but seeing we have numerous roster spots and they liked him enough to draft him, I wouldn’t be surprised.
How much are you guys thinking for DeAndre Jordan? Ziller says 4 years, $40. I know people would like him around here, but for how much?
I would fully expect LA to match that
but he is not yet worth it.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
unless Macklin goes D-Leaguing
If there is any sign of this, I will mail a bag of poop to Dumars. Macklin is 25, his birthday was Sunday. He’s on a two-year deal. If we send him to the d-league for development, why in the fuck did we draft a 5-year college player who is now 25? To “develop” him? For his “potential”? Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one that gives a shit about the rules? We’re talking about a show dog WITH PAPERS, you can’t board it, it gets upset, its hair falls out.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
by Mike Payne on Nov 30, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I don't know what any of what you said at the end means
But I agree, either Macklin doesn’t get signed or he comes up to the final roster, which should feature a couple of minutes for him.
WWGMD?
I couldn’t have asked for a better response. Kriz, it’s from Best In Show.
I don’t think it makes any sense to send Macklin anywhere, but he’s the most likely to be pushed off the end of the bench. I hadn’t really thought the age thing through though when I typed that out.
it’s from Best In Show.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
by Mike Payne on Nov 30, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
oh shit.
lol. my bad.
Good thing I didn’t go looking for the clip to post. I would have been watching best in show clips for hours.
now i need to watch them to figure out what part of best in show i was thinking it was.
I'm surprised Tay wasn't rated higher
He’s always excelled at defending finesse players like Kobe, McGrady, and the rest of the Western Conference SFs. Two things hurt Tay badly at around the same time— Ben went elsewhere and the East got a bunch of roided out small forwards who were really power forwards with the speed of 2 guards. Lebron grew into his prime, Pierce ended up with a team that mattered, etc. When those players got past Tay (easily), there was no shot blocking big man to shut them down, so his team defensive involvement was taken out of the equation.
I’m also surprised at this ranking because of how efficient Tay was on offense. Yeah, I hated Isolayshaun as much if not more than the next guy, and I’ve wanted to get rid of Tay for many years now. That doesn’t mean he isn’t actually a real value, just not to this team or this conference. Go out west, Tay, and your skills will be more appreciated.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
I know you already said the Clippers aren't (that) dumb,
but what if we sign-n-trade’d Tay for DeAndre Jordan? Would be awesome? Tay can go home to LAC.
I’ve been wondering all night if JOD is still delusional enough to think we will either retain Tay or get something of value from a sign and trade.
Do sign-and-trade-and-sign-and-trades work since both players are free agents? Isn’t that kind of a self-cancelling weird sort of CBA paradox? Is this real life?
Not sure that would work, and if I were the Clippers, I wouldn’t want to move Jordan, I’d be talking Kaman all day. Some team is dumb enough to bite into that I’m sure.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
i have no idea if that kind of shenanigan works. I wouldn’t want to move him either, especially for a guy way older than their core. Especially at the expense of a Big who is the same age as their core. This is why it’s all in a “how dumb are the Clippers?” context.
Agreed, and "how dumb are the Clippers?" would be an awesome reality show. Starring Donald Sterling, as Hitler.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
Wouldn't that be redundant?
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Dec 1, 2011 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I bet that team would be the Pistons.
WORD PLAY
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by Biz Markie Moon on Nov 30, 2011 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Second time on this thread I'm agreeing 100% with MFMP
Not sucking up, mind you. I did feel sometimes last year that I was the only one in this group who dissented from the “Tay just completely sucks” apparent consensus. I’m not sure he’ll be all that useful to Detroit if he stays, but he could definitely be useful to another team.
"Tay just completely sucks"
I’m not sure there’s a consensus that he “completely” sucks. But there does appear to be consensus that “Tay sucks.” I don’t think the phrase means what it appears to mean though.
It kinda became frustrated shorthand for
Tay’s role on this team is maddening and makes no sense long term. Why do we keep running Iso plays for him. How the hell does that help anyone else get better? Despite the helpful skills he possesses, he’s not helping anything here.
Instead of explaining my growing frustration fully in every thread, i just became ok with the “Tay sucks” explanation.
Fair enough, but
Re last year’s squad, there was very little offense there — a bunch of outside shooters, Stuckey bulling toward the rim and yelling “hey,” and bigs that didn’t have anything like a polished post game. “Taysolation,” which was Tay trying to post, was the best “inside” game we had. I know it wasn’t all that great but it actually it wasn’t that bad and to your point, it’s not as if there were a ton of better options, even for learning, especially for the majority of the year when Monroe was not getting lots of minutes. The Pistons didn’t have the personnel for running normal basketball plays much of the time. Heck, they still don’t.
That’s not an argument for keeping Tay, mind you.
He'd Be A Complimentary Player On A Contending Team
and I think his career would be rejuvenated a little bit by a change in scenery.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 1, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
You know it's a shit-list free agency when Rodney Stuckey can rank 7th.
I pray to whatever deity will listen that if someone makes a ridiculous offer to Stuckey, Dumars just let’s him go.
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by Trout Jefferson on Nov 30, 2011 10:19 PM EST reply actions
Maybe MJ will come through in the clutch and offer oodles of money to Stuckey, and JoD will just laugh and laugh and laugh and he waves goodbye to #3.
by garrettelliott on Dec 1, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah
you hit the head on the nail right there
just win, baby
Thank you Kris Draper and Chris Osgood for all the memories.
Millen shall be Mi**en on Pride of Detriot. New, official, unwritten law.
In a guard jam...in a guard jam.
It’s impossible to figure out Stuckey’s value before making a call on amnesty for Rip or Ben G.. It would help to make a trade in advance of making an offer to Stuckey too.
If the Pistons sign Stuckey before making any other move they are never getting equal value on deal involving a guard because other GMs know that Dumars is (or at least should be) desparate to balance his roster.
Love Prince but say goodbye.
Glad Jerebko is undervalued.
Chris Wilcox played hard in a contract year and earned himself a nice deal – elsewhere.
T-Mac is a good fit for Boston or Miami. He can pass and rebound there and shoot less.
Just keep it reasonable JoD.
All I ask is for some fiscal fucking responsibility.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
I just want two things to happen:
1. Jerebko returns
2. Prince does not
As far as Wilcox I’d like him back, but I’m not going to care that much if he’s not.
I"m used to and content with Stuckey at this point, however, I should say that if he comes back I want him to play PG, period.
Stuckey at the rice point is a very nice trade asset, if nothing else. Hopefully, his RFA status reduces the amount of offers he receives, and we can retain him cheaply, and then move him for something more beneficial.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
by Mike Payne on Dec 1, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
wow...
you went there alright…all the way there.
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I am really bad at these
Arrow…
Corn..
Crutches?
by Taiwanese Tora on Dec 1, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Arrows corn Polio
or “Arroz con Pollo” being the implicit Spanish translation.
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Hmm...
I didn’t realize it wasn’t a reference to something… or was it? O.O
by Taiwanese Tora on Dec 2, 2011 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
Our roster blows.
That is all.
Glow-in-the-dark Baby Jesus is 8-0! Lions have to be feeling lucky he is on their side!
by DBB Diablo on Dec 1, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
True
but I’ve learned to accept them for who they are. you can only deal with what you have atm. this year is actually a good season to make some determinations. let’s bring back stuckey and jerebko and see if frank can work some magic. sounds like the pistons are holding off on using the amnesty. my worry is that they try to bring back prince and I’m not sure I like the message that comes along with that. that would make me sour on this situation instantly. right now I’m certainly not as depressed as last season as it seems like I can see a sliver of light at the end of the tunnel, but that could go out quickly depending on certain decisions.
by mcflies on Dec 1, 2011 12:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think, ultimately, that's the problem
You can see players with useful skills up and down the roster, but (i) some really important skills are missing from most-all players (consistent post offense, and too little defense and rebounding), and (ii) the skill sets don’t match up well at all.
i am hoping, and i may be an idiot for doing so, that Frank will help with meshing the talents that are there and making this a passable season. we aren’t going to sniff the playoffs but man i’d just like to see some promise, and to see our people playing hard. that’d be enough for me
I think we'll sniff 'em
The NBA: Where the entire Eastern Conference sniffs the playoffs.
i) khandor-esque (i.e. lists and arbitrary numbering)
ii) but I agree with your sentiment.
iii) Hubie Brown
by TDP on Dec 2, 2011 1:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Please Keep Rodney Stuckey
Rodney is a dynamite guy who can move to shooting guard if Brandon Knight can adjust to being a good pg. Rodney is fearce,strong, and determined to get to the basket and no one can stop him at his best. He can still play the point also. If we don’t sign him we will loose one of out top young players that is dyno mite. If we loose him we will be sorry and our team will be even worse. JD you made a good choice choosing Rodney Stuckey and you know it. Please keep him> He is valuable to this organization.
by joycetrice13 on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for everything you just typed.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
by brgulker on Dec 2, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now I swore to myself that I wouldn't get too excited when the NBA comes back because I think it's watered down & a mostly boring casual fan sport that features a game people call basketball (in other words, NCAA Hoops is far superior). However, I can't lie, I am excited but then I looked at the Pistons' roster and went right back to thinking about how much potential the Michigan State University Basketball Spartans' roster has for this year and going into March Madness.
when did Sheed come in the conversation....
oh…wait
Got ilk?
by alaskanpistonsfan on Dec 2, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Now when you say “dynamite guy” do you mean this? I love the guy too but doing that twice a season is not enough for me to justify why he is still on the roster.
Now I swore to myself that I wouldn't get too excited when the NBA comes back because I think it's watered down & a mostly boring casual fan sport that features a game people call basketball (in other words, NCAA Hoops is far superior). However, I can't lie, I am excited but then I looked at the Pistons' roster and went right back to thinking about how much potential the Michigan State University Basketball Spartans' roster has for this year and going into March Madness.
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